DISQUS

dolcissimo1 · 1 year ago

How is this post any different than what the morons who took Michelle Obama's comment completely out of context did? Or, for that matter, the purple heart band-aids at the '04 Republican Convention? How many years in a POW camp does one have to spend before their patriotism is beyond reproach?

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

10

Just kidding.

But, actually, I don't see what one has to do with the other.

I'm sure there have been plenty traitors to America held as POWs.

Also, if you agree that anyone held prisoner is a great patriot, you'd agree that everybody at Gitmo is a great patriot for Al Qaeda, and we all know that is FAR from the truth.

blackwolf · 1 year ago

This is simply to give a measure of balance to the equation. McCain's patriotism is not in question--Yet the patriotism of Michelle Obama is!

The above post is used as an illustration of the GOP's ignorance, and really throws light on their ugly campaign tactics. We all know what McCain meant--yet the world seems to be intent on taking the same 'type' of statement out of context when applied to Michelle.

I find it fascinating to say the least. You are aware that McCain, under any other circumstances, could actually be called a "traitor" for cooperating with his captor's propaganda tactics!

I'm not making this up, and there's bad blood with McCain and a number of Veterans groups. He's getting a free ride at the moment, and the media is keeping that part of his "patriotism" under wraps.

John Aravosis · 1 year ago

I've said it before, imagine had Barack Obama made propaganda videos for the enemy. Obama didn't. McCain did. Imagine had any of our troops in Iraq made propaganda videos for Al Qaeda. Do you think anyone would call them heroes? Don't think so.

red_dwarf · 1 year ago

Here's how its different. This post simply points out that McBush is a GD hypocrite, and a liar. That's difference enough to make a note.

John Aravosis · 1 year ago

No one had to torture me in order for me to love my country.

tlsintx · 1 year ago

you mean, John McFlyboy only cared about being a hotshot navy pilot, bucking to make admiral like his dad and grandpappy? i'm shocked i tell you.

that's just plain anti-American.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

So McCain was fighting for our country, a country he didn't love.

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Well, in truth, he wasn't really fighting.

He crashed four planes, caused some disciplinary problems, then was taken prisoner.

Mark in Florida · 1 year ago

harsh.....I did not realize that. It's amazing to me how the right spun Kerry's service, and how they are spinning McCains service in the opposite direction. Ah politics...isn't it fun! :-)

Bobby · 1 year ago

Can you spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E?

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

"I didn't really love America until I was deprived of her company."

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So, he didn't dump his wife for Cindy, he dumped her for America?

hnsez · 1 year ago

Nothing in America had earned the Adult John McCain's love in the 31 years before he was shot down? Nothing? Not winning the Second World War? Not our regular and orderly transitions of power based on the rule of law? Not freeing millions of Jews from the Nazi's? Not the fact that we feed and defend the world? Not that we lead in science and technology research? Not even when McCain graduated from the United States Naval Academy? Not even McCain's grandfather and father who were admirals in the United States Navy taught him to love America? Nothing?

Not even the fact that McCain was able to use his fathers position as an Admiral in the Navy to guarantee he became a naval aviator even though he had graduated 4th from the bottom at the USNA?

Not the fact that we saved the entire world from the Japanese Empire had made John McCain at the age of 31 love his country in his entire adult life?

How sad. I certainly don't want this self-serving blind pessimist as commander in chief of the USA.

greenleegazette · 1 year ago

Good catch. We know McCain probably didn't mean it that way, but we also know that Michelle Obama didn't mean HER comment that way either. And so does everyone else. I want to punch Sean Hannity everytime he ticks the supposed Michelle "offenses" off on his chubby little fingers. Nobody could withstand this level of scrutiny.

I don't think the McCain comment should ever be used FIRST. But it should be used EVERY SINGLE TIME the Michelle comment is brought up.

blackwolf · 1 year ago

Agreed: Let's create a little balance in the argument:)

Michael7820 · 1 year ago

I don't blame the man or fault him for this. Then, as now there is a lot not to like about what is going on in Amerikkka. As it stands now I can't stand most of happening in Amerikkka but I cherish, value & love the constitution.

But I do think he is a self important buffoon and hypocrite, he and his wife. Hell most of his own party can't stand the turd and will have to hold their nose & wipe tears from their eyes when the time comes to pull the voting machine lever to vote for him!!

Mark in Florida · 1 year ago

Yes, very good Catch, and totally fair and appropriate given what pill popping cyndi has been saying lately. I am sorry, this woman walks three feet behind her man, and offers NOTHING of substance. Cyndi McSame is a A vapid echo chamber of nothingness.

Mark in Florida · 1 year ago

I remember as a kid how huge the bicentenial was in our country and being VERY proud and VERY patriotic in that period as a kid. I did not have to leave the country, nor be a POW to realize that, even as a kid.

This is a good one John A....let's get this one out there. I am attending a somewhat intimate Obama event today in FL. I am personally floating this gem out there today amongst my guests. I am thrilled and looking forward to meeting the senator today! Go OBAMA! :-)

John Aravosis · 1 year ago

I made a tape recording, with my stupid little cassette recorder, at the age of 13, the second the church bells were ringing across the country to commemorate the bicentennial. So yeah, I loved our country from the beginning.

Mark in Florida · 1 year ago

Yup yup yup. Again, we all knew what McCain meant, however what is good for the goose....as they say. Keep up the good work.

Also, we need to start a campaign to thwart Sam Nunn from the Obama campaign consciousness. Sam Nunn needs to go, he is an awful homophobe of the highest order and will only alienate some of our GLBT friends in the Hillary camp whose votes we need.

John Aravosis · 1 year ago

Well, if you're attending a somewhat intimate event, then you have the opportunity to weigh in about Sam Nunn :-)

Mark in Florida · 1 year ago

Oh, and I will my friend.

Ciao

Mark

blackwolf · 1 year ago

Good man mark:! This is a perfect example of the double standard that the Republicans play up every day. I'm thinking that John McCain's statement has more truth than people want to believe. They try to play up Michelle's so-called privileged background (which is non-existent) and completely gloss over John McCain's waltz through the concourse of life.

I can't believe how the Republicans, even in light of this revelation, keep putting the spin on things.

And, can you imagine the spin we'd be hearing if Obama called his wife a "C"?

Push this one as far as it will go. The world needs to hear it.

PeteWa · 1 year ago

He still doesn't love America, if he did, he would have been pushing for the impeachment of George Bush the last eight years, rather than pushing his nose up Bush's butt at every chance.

red_dwarf · 1 year ago

Shove it back in their bigoted, lying faces. McBush graduated 894th in a class of 899 (99.4% studied harder, or McBush is genetically inferior when it comes to original thought). Therefore, once can conclude that when McBush was a young man, there wasn't much he did love.

One wonders what occupied the mind of this lame dimwit back in his academic years?

blackwolf · 1 year ago

Nothing occupied his mind, he was privileged. It's not the mindset of gratitude. He was telling the truth when he said he didn't really love his country.

c1 · 1 year ago

Hopefully Cindy McTart will shut her trap about Michelle Obama now, finally.

She better, anyway..

warsaw · 1 year ago

The first 31 years of McC's life are carbon copies of the first 40 years of W's so-called-life. They were fuck-ups, always in trouble, hunting for pussy truants, drunks who couldn't get it together to study, dim-witted-and-proud-of-it scions of successful, morally compromised families, who simply couldn't give a shit and found themselves running for president. We are supposed to RELATE to their conversions not examine the behavior. It's the turnaround, stupid. How can you appreciate their finer qualities if you insist on trying to figure out who they are?

msirt · 1 year ago

And people really miss the point on the use of the word REALLY.

One definition according to Webster:

Really: TRULY, UNQUESTIONABLY — used as an intensifier, as in "a REALLY beautiful day".

So "first time REALLY proud in adult life" REALLY says:

"Never been prouder as an adult".

One must speak English. That's all.

jr · 1 year ago

"McCain is white. He doesn't fit into the scary minority narrative we're trying to weave so his comments are fine"-cable news

tlsintx · 1 year ago

bingo.
mcPhony's comments won't get half the play Michelle's have.

Ben Dover · 1 year ago

I wonder how much Great-grampa McSame would love America if he were a single mother with two screaming babies working a minimum wage job while paying $4.00 gal for fuel, no health care and rapidly increasing food costs?

Would he still have the same emotion? Or does having six or nine homes, with at least one private fishing lake and access to his wife's $100 million dollar worth and her corporate jet cloud his emotions?

msirt · 1 year ago

"Until he was deprived of her"?

You mean as in "I wish the hell I was outta here and could go home"?

Milli · 1 year ago

Enough already with the petty crap. I despise McCain, but it was clear to me that he meant that he didn't APPRECIATE America until he was taken from it - kinda like if someone dies you don't realize how much you loved them until then. I don't think he was a practicing communist who burnt American flags prior to his capture. Yes, I know the Cindy McCain and the right-wing henchmen have grossly distorted Michelle Obama's comment but does that mean we have to distort what McCain said in response? It makes us look as petty and immature to pursue this because most sane people know what he meant. All thats needed here is to set the record straight as to what Michelle Obama meant by HER comments. Period.

msirt · 1 year ago

I don't agree. it needs to be pusued. The RW continues to use the smear, no matter how much it's been debunked. Cindy's working for John. The Abrams piece rightly lays out the spin game. It's a political campaign, and unfortunately, all's fair, etc.

There is no distortion of what McCain said. McCain said it. It's open to interpretation, that's all. If one side can "interpret", so can the other.

Ruslanchik · 1 year ago

Agreed.

Additionally, any line of attack that reminds people that John McCain is a war hero is not a good one. We should focus on his Senate career, which is filled with problems and let anything having to do with the Navy lie.

johnosahon · 1 year ago

SHUT UP AND GET OUT OF THE DAMN KITCHEN. you think sitting your ass on the floor playing defence will get us the win in november? so, you want us to sit down and let this pass by, just like Kerry did in 04, em sorry but i want my dream job next year, and certainly do not want a war in Iran next year.

SIT YOUR ASS THERE AND BE TALKING ABOUT PETTINESS WHILE the country is dying.

c1 · 1 year ago

^^ What HE said ^^

Fuck the McSame's - They wanted to harp on Michelle Obama, and now it's their turn (fairly or not) to field the heat. Turnabout is fair play :-)

No more John Kerry style slacking!!

Milli · 1 year ago

Ok, calm the heck down. You know people on the left can overblow stories too? This is Dan Abrams just trying to play in the big boy league (John, really).

I never said we shouldn't play defense - I said we should defend and clarify Michelle Obama comments, but thats all. If we start whining that "McCain did it too", we're actually giving some validity to accusation that Michelle Obama's statement had some malice behind it - and we'll be keeping this stupid tit for tat argument going. WE DON'T WANT THAT! Defend Michelle Obama, then move on to the more important issues. As we speak our fourth amendment rights are being eliminated.............lets switch to that problem.

tmcbarnes · 1 year ago

Unless I am crazy, Lars Larsen says "Blow me" at the 8:25 mark. Can someone check that out? Am I wrong?

KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago

What the twentysomething Johnny Mac really loved was p**sy, fast cars, getting hammered, and "hot dogging" Navy aircraft landings. What did any of those things have to do with America?

FunMe · 1 year ago

What Mrs. McDruggie really meant to say:

"I've ALWAYS been proud of my country. I can be a drug addict and no one will do anything against me. I can STEAL from my company their drugs and no one will do anything against me. I can be CONVICTED for that crime, but no one will do anything against me. I will have to do some kind of silly community work as my "punishment" which I didn't do, but no one will do anything against me.

I've ALWAYS been proud of my country"

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

He felt a glimmer when Ozzie cheated on Harriet...

ShirleyGoodnessanMercy · 1 year ago

All this pseudo-patriotism crap is bizarre beyond belief. Republicans claim to be super-patriots even as they destroy our country in every possible respect. Amazing hypocrisy.

McCain didn't love his country til he was deprived of its company. Too bad that when he was re-united with his wife, he left her after she was in an accident and became disabled. I guess he didn't love his wife when he was deprived of her company.

Imtiredofthiscrazyness · 1 year ago

What this Lars Larson is basically saying is that Michelle Obama does not have any right to complain about America because this is the land of opportunity (the land of milk and honey) and we should take all our bumps and lump them. That is really a discrimination or racism. Let's call a spade a spade. So many Americans are starving, almost homeless, etc. etc. but we should not complain that the rich exploit them because we are privileged to live in this great land and we should be serve the rich to make them richer.