DISQUS

larz · 1 year ago

Is McCain looking for cabinet appointees? This one's already "vetted".

An_American_Karol · 1 year ago

Levi's a hero because he knocked up a potential VP's daughter. Woohoo, vote Republican, the home of heroes.

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

So isn't the difference between all this an Huckabee, really, just boiling down to squirrel???

An_American_Karol · 1 year ago

yep!

AdrianBrowne · 1 year ago

What's the one thing that's more exciting that having sex with the Governor's daughter?

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

The "look" to Cindy's McCain's eye the last few has beeen very crafy and calculating...With the Republican rule to always judge the man by his wife guiding my thoughts...Johnny will, likely, jus oogle Bristol's ass.

paul94611 · 1 year ago

The more folks talk about Palin's kid the less time folks spend talking about Palin.

nuneutralobserver2008 · 1 year ago

"I'm hoping the media is going to ask why the McCain campaign spent the past 24 hours berating the media for covering this story (a story the McCain campaign leaked in the first place), and now the McCain campaign is further the "private" story with public photo ops."

John -- The answer is simple. Because Levi is part of their family -- and families stick together. All part and parcel of the values that most Americans hold dear -- though I would not expect the snarky, pseudo-intellectual, effete sophisticates A-blog to have any concept of family values.

I was unexcited about McCain until he picked Sarah Palin. I immediately sent $1500 to his campaign.

She is an ACCOMPLISHED woman and experienced executive.

Name ONE accomplishment of Barack Obama. Name ONE thing he has successively managed.

FunMe · 1 year ago

Oh, there is still money left for you $5.25/hour rove rejects to come to our blogs?

Thanks for the COMIC RELIEF!
LOL

nuneutralobserver2008 · 1 year ago

I get $6.50/hour. And a free copy of Obama Nation.

ZennButtKicker (tlhwraith) · 1 year ago

If there was a Dem President you'd be getting at least $7.00/hour. However, the Obama nation copy is a pretty nice job perk.

An_American_Karol · 1 year ago

And your reason for telling us is?
Oh, I get it. You want to intimidate us into giving up? Lol

You people really are quite sad.

KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago

OK, Neutered Observer. ONE thing, successfully (you mean) managed: his own Presidential campaign. Which is more than McCain ever did, now or in 2000.

AdrianBrowne · 1 year ago

His family.

nuneutralobserver2008 · 1 year ago

Does that include his half-brother who lives on a $1 day?

Or the other half-brother that is a Islamic terrorist in Kenya?

ZennButtKicker (tlhwraith) · 1 year ago

$1 a day, that's friggin awesome if he can pull that off. I say we give the "half-brother who lives on $1 a day" a TV special/book deal because I'm sure in the horrible economic climate the GOP has created many people would love to hear how to survive on $1 a day.

Islamic terrorist in Kenya? Really? Is that the talking points they are indoctrinating you people with nowadays?

paul94611 · 1 year ago

Better check this out to see what mike Murphy & Peggy Noonan really think:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrG8w4bb3kg

Gridlock · 1 year ago

That's a nonsensical answer. Explain why the media should leave the family alone if McCain is intent on shoving them into the spotlight, and then berating people for noticing?

EXPLAIN YOURSELF, if you can. Explain the contradiction. DO IT.

iWoman · 1 year ago

You name one thing Palin has accomplished. I bet it's like trying to name one decision she has made as "commander in chief" of the Alaskan National Guard.

Obama managed the Developing Communities Project, Project Vote, which registered 150,000 new voters and won Illinois for Clinton in 1992.

During his career in the Illinois State Senate, he wrote and passed the first ethics reform bill in Illinois in 25 years. He passed a death penalty reform bill that, among other things, forced all police interrogations to be taped, the first law of its kind in the country. He passed a middle class tax cut. He gave healthcare to 150,000 Illinoisans.

In the U.S. Senate, Obama was in the minority for his first two years but still worked with Republican Tom Coburn to pass the Obama-Coburn Transparency Bill, which set up an online searchable database where every dollar of federal spending can be tracked and accounted for.

In January 2007, Obama co-sponsored the Honest Leadership and Open Government Act, which was signed into law in September 2007. It strengthens public disclosure requirements concerning lobbying activity and funding, places more restrictions on gifts for members of Congress and their staff, and provides for mandatory disclosure of earmarks in expenditure bills.

(I love how Palin says she's a "reformer," but she's actually the one under investigation and Obama is the one cleaning up the government. Republicans = empty rhetoric, Democrats = action.)

Obama worked with Republican Dick Lugar on locking down loose nuclear weapons in the former Soviet Union. He also worked with Sam Brownback to send millions of dollars in aid to war-torn Congo.

As a member of the VA committee, Obama garnered more funding to VA hospitals around the country including Walter Reed. He helped pass the new GI bill.

I could go on and on, but I think I met your pathetic challenging of naming one accomplishment Obama has done.

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

I'm so well versed on "the issues" I feel safe talking about Bristol's ass...She did get $5 mil in Homeland Security money...kidding.

FunMe · 1 year ago

"McCain campaign WANTS all of America talking about this story."

I kinda figured that when McCrazyCain started to bring in Paris Hilton.

My advice: continue to attack, attack, attack both McCrazyCain and Palin.

KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago

The National Enquirer, which has been on this since Friday, isn't having any of this GOP spin. "Palin War: Teen Prego Crisis." (a teaser of the full story forthcoming is now up on line). The NE dragged many $20 bills through Wasilla in the last 5 days...

scottinsf · 1 year ago

Aren't they the ones that pretended to do the mainstream media's job over the whole Edwards fiasco? Oh wait....

BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago

When is Bristol's due date?

HereinDC · 1 year ago

FOXNEWS.COM HOME > ENTERTAINMENT
Report: Jamie Lynn Spears Sends Gift to Bristol Palin

Wednesday, September 03, 2008

:) :) :)

the Dems get Brittney
the GOP gets Jamie Lynn

KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago

Levi's Facebook bullshit bravado is all much of a muchness with his new Grandpappy John's bullshit bravado over the decades: "Yeah, I'm a fuckin' redneck. You fuck with me, I'll kick your fuckin' ass, man!"

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

Does anyone really think this will work??? A geriatric and x-rated cowboy version of the Beverly Hillbillies as opposed to a real thinker and Constitutionalist with the most salient and overarching grasp of policy I think most have ever seen and an equitable and social personality to boot???
Really???
Without sniffing the spin nitrous oxide??
With people’s pocketbooks and the state of the US in most folk’s minds?
Really?
Why not just let the American Idol judges decide?

nuneutralobserver2008 · 1 year ago

"a real thinker and Constitutionalist with the most salient and overarching grasp of policy I think most have ever seen and an equitable and social personality to boot???"

Put down your SnoopDogg Thesaurus for a minute and answer one simple question:

Name ONE significant accomplishment of Barack Obama.

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

Being able to succinctly summarize, as he did in last Thursday's tour de force, the top agenda for an America and world renewed by his election and the election of a majority Democrat Congress.

PS-the racist and anti-intellectual caste to your remark is very telling...

nuneutralobserver2008 · 1 year ago

So if you were i charge of hiring, let's say, a cabinet maker, to build custom cabinets for your home, you would choose the person who HAS NEVER BUILT A CUSTOM CABINET, but can summarize succintly how he would do it.

And you would reject the person with actual experience.

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

You build your cabinet and I'll build mine, pal.

PS-Aren't we watching the blessing of McCain's experience playing out with the Palin disaster?

nuneutralobserver2008 · 1 year ago

I accept your surrender. You know, in your heart of hearts, that your candidate is an empty suit.

Don't bother responding -- I won't be hear to read it.

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

Good...honesty and truth are like disinfectant to buffoons...

aquarius2 · 1 year ago

Coward, run when you have nothing to say.

aquarius2 · 1 year ago

Gee, I didn't know McCain could build cabinets oops I meant I didn't know anyone had presidential experience other than actual presidents.

ZennButtKicker (tlhwraith) · 1 year ago

OK (this is just his Senate time, we could talk state level too, if you like...)

Of the 15 bills Senator Obama sponsored or co-sponsored in 2005-7 that became law:

Two addressed foreign policy:
Promote relief, security and democracy in the Congo (2125)
Develop democratic institutions in areas under Palestinian control (2370).

Three addressed public health:
Improve mine safety (2803)
Increased breast cancer funding (597)
Reduce preterm delivery and complications, reduce infant mortality (707).

Two addressed openness and accountability in government:
Strengthening the Freedom of Information Act (2488)
Full disclosure of all entities receiving federal funds (2590)

Two addressed national security
Extend Terrorist Risk Insurance (467)
Amend the Patriot Act (2167)

One addressed the needs of the Armed Forces
Wave passport fees to visit graves, attend memorials/funerals of veterans abroad (1184).

Of the 570 bills Senator Obama introduced into the Senate during the 109th and 110th Congress (Senate Bill numbers are in parentheses), they can be summarized as follows:

25 addressed Energy Efficiency and Climate Change
Suspend royalty relief for oil and gas (115)
Reduce dependence on oil; use of alternative energy sources (133)
Increase fuel economy standards for cars (767, 768)
Auto industry incentives for fuel efficient vehicles (1151)
Reduce green house gas emissions (1324)
Establish at NSF a climate change education program (1389)
Increase renewable content of gasoline (2202)
Energy emergency relief for small businesses and farms (269)
Strategic gasoline and fuel reserves (1794)
Alternative diesel standards (3554)
Coal to liquid fuel promotion (3623)
Renewable diesel standards (1920)
Reducing global warming pollution from vehicles (2555)
Fuel security and consumer choice (1994, 2025)
Alternative energy refueling system (2614)
Climate change education (1389)
Low income energy assistance (2405)
Oil savings targets (339)
Fuel economy reform (3694)
Plug-in electric drive vehicles (1617)
Nuclear release notice (2348)
Passenger rail investment (294)
Energy relief for low income families (2405)

21 addressed Health Care
Drug re-importation (334)
Health information technology (1262, 1418)
Discount drug prices (2347)
Health care associated infections (2278)
Hospital quality report cards (692, 1824)
Medical error disclosure and compensation (1784)
Emergency medical care and response (1873)
Stem cell research (5)
Medical Malpractice insurance (1525)
Health centers renewal (901, 3771)
Children’s health insurance (401)
Home health care (2061)
Medicare independent living (2103)
Microbicides for HIV/AIDS (823)
Ovarian cancer biomarker research (2569)
Gynological cancers (1172)
Access to personalized medicine through use of human genome (976)
Paralysis research and care (1183)

20 addressed Public Health:
Violence against women (1197)
Biodefense and pandemic preparedness and response (1821, 1880)
Viral influenza control (969)
End homelessness (1518)
Reduce STDs/unintended pregnancy (1790)
Smoking prevention and tobacco control (625)
Minority health improvement and disparity elimination (4024)
Nutrition and physical education in schools (2066)
Health impact assessments (1067, 2506)
Healthy communities (1068)
Combat methamphetamines (2071)
Paid sick leave (910)
Prohibit mercury sales (833, 1818)
Prohibit sale of lead products (1306, 2132)
Lead exposure in children (1811, 2132)

14 address Consumer Protection/Labor
Stop unfair labor practices (842)
Fair minimum wage (2, 1062, 2725, 3829)
Internet freedom (2917)
Credit card safety (2411)
Media ownership (2332)
Protecting taxpayer privacy (2484)
Working family child assistance (218)
Habeus Corpus Restoration (185)
Bankruptcy protection for employees and retirees (2092)
FAA fair labor management dispute resolution (2201)
Working families flexibility (2419).

13 addressed the Needs of Veterans and the Armed Forces:
Improve Benefits (117)
Suicide prevention (479)
Needs of homeless veterans (1180)
Homes for veterans (1084)
GI Bill enhancement (43)
Military job protection
Dignity in care for wounded vets (713)
Housing assistance for low income veterans (1084)
Military children in public schools (2151)
Military eye injury research and care (1999)
Research physical/mental health needs from Iraq War (1271)
Proper administration of discharge for personality disorder (1817, 1885)
Security of personal data of veterans (3592)

12 addressed Congressional Ethics and Accountability
Lobbying and ethics reform (230)
Stop fraud (2280)
Legislative transparency and accountability (525)
Open government (2180, 2488)
Restoring fiscal discipline (10)
Transparency and integrity in earmarks (2261)
Accountability of conference committee deliberations and reports (2179)
Federal funding accountability and transparency (2590)
Accountability and oversight for private security functions under Federal
contract (674)
Accountability for contractors and personnel under federal contracts
(2147) Resctrictions awarding government contracts (2519)

10 addressed Foreign Policy:
Iraq war de-escalation (313)
US policy for Iraq (433),
Divestiture from Iran (1430)
Sudan divestment authorization (831)
Millennium Development Goals (2433)
Multilateral debt relief (1320)
Development bank reform (1129)
Nuclear nonproliferation (3131,977,2224).

9 address Voting/Elections
Prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections (453)
Voter access to polls and services in Federal elections (737)
Voter intimidation and deceptive practices (1975)
Senate campaign disclosure parity (185)
Require reporting for bundled campaign contributions (2030)
Election jamming prevention (4102)
Campaign disclosure parity (223)
Presidential funding (2412)
Integrity of electronic voting systems (1487)

11 addressed Education
Increase access of low income African Americans to higher education (1513)
Establish teaching residency programs (1574)
Increase early intervention services (2111)
Middle school curriculum improvements (2227)
Public database of scholarships, fellowships and financial aid (2428)
Summer learning programs (116)
TANF financial education promotion (924)
Higher education (1642)
Build capacity at community colleges (379)
Campus law enforcement in emergencies (1228)
Support for teachers (2060).

6 addressed Hurrican Katrina
Hurricane Katrina recovery (2319)
Emergency relief (1637)
Bankruptcy relief and community protection (1647)
Working family tax relief (2257)
Fair wages for recovery workers (1749)
Gulf coast infrastructure redevelopment (1836)

5 addressed the Environment
Drinking water security (218, 1426)
Water resources development (728)
Waste water treatment (1995)
Combat illegal logging (1930)
Spent nuclear fuel tracking and Acountability (1194)
Asian Carp Prevention and Control Act (Introduced in Senate)[S.726.IS ]

4 addressed Discrimination
Claims for civil class action based on discrimination (1989)
Domestic partnership benefits (2521)
Unresolved civil rights crimes (535)
Equality or two parent families (2286)

4 addressed Homeland Security
Judicial review of FISA orders (2369)
National emergency family locator (1630)
Amend US Patriot Act (2167)
Chemical security and safety (2486)

nuneutralobserver2008 · 1 year ago

Has he ever been the executive of anything?

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

Was Lincoln???

ZennButtKicker (tlhwraith) · 1 year ago

Has McCain? NO!

Then again, Bush II was a governor II and even his own party won't talk to him. You're arguement is a strawman arguement at best and I wish the Dems would have the proper response which is just because you've been the boss, doesn't mean you were good at it.

Palins problem doesn't appear to be not actually sitting in the governors chair, it's the entirety of what she did while sitting there.

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

Isn't it freakin obvious how well Mr. Obama has handled not just the issues but the complexities of this inane and endless campaign??? And his amazing composure and facility overseas? His dead on free throw??? I'd like to watch...I guess it would have to be Palin...make a free throw. Oh but then I'm a mean old lefty...run kiddies....Boogah!!!

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

Plus Obama has run a terrific campaign...McCain's gone bust and is now financed like an Italian sci fi movie...

houstonray · 1 year ago

MSNBC has a vote link up on their home page, should the media back off the Palin investigation of her background and family? Currently an overwhelming NO, but be sure and add your vote as well!

Joneses · 1 year ago

Who cares about Jamie Lynn. Just goes to show you that the GOP approves teen pregnancy and un-wed mothers. Way to go McCain.

Please I do not want this man nor his pick for vp near the button.

Their moto, GOP First, Country Last.

nuneutralobserver2008 · 1 year ago

The GOP does NOT approve of teen pregnancy and unwed mothers.

It does approve of loving and taking care of your family.

I don't approve of smoking . . . but I still invite my friends who are smokers to come to my house.

Gridlock · 1 year ago

It does not approve of hypocrisy, but will lovingly embrace it anyway when it's one of their own, you mean.

GOP: tired, dusty, hypocritical, fascist.

aquarius2 · 1 year ago

Maybe McCain to advisers:


"Aw, damn! Where the hell is a good hurricane when I need it? What should I do now? Where the hell is that punk hockey kid. Get him here, there just might be a good photo op there."

donotmakemecomedownthere · 1 year ago

"Today, we are all Proud Rednecks!"

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

Think they'll play the National Anthem with Banjos tonight?

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

Taps with banjos...

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

McCain to boyfriend:

"Yeah, go ahead and marry her. You can always trade her in later for a hot young babe with money......if you know what I mean and I think that you do."

Will_In_Midtown · 1 year ago

CNN is reporting new poll number -- Not good at all for McCain...

KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago

I see McCain taking young, bullheaded Levi by the hand and "mentoring" him over the next few months. "That boy is just like I was at that age. Levi is Naval Academy material..." Many, many grandfatherly squeezes of the shoulders. Many, many interludes together, surrogate grandpap and young boy, quietly walking together at the Sedona ranch, communing with God's Nature, knowing that their bond will last for eternity, even though Pap John's time on earth is only fleeting...

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

McCain:

"Remember Levi. Love is great, but you have to make sure that she can also buy you a congressional seat."

KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago

Pap John and Levi looked with breathless wonder at the changing leaves on the mountainside birches. Could this be a symbol of Pap John's final days on earth? Levi was quaking with fear at the prospect of Momma Sarah's becoming the Leader of the Free World. He had never really forgiven her for dicking him over with the National Media. He had planned to hang out with his buds, chill after high school, and he dreaded the idea of being trapped by Bristol and those kids. But Pap John came into his life and made him realize the wondrous gift of life in a way that his own father couldn't...

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

Tune in next week for the next exciting installment of Caribou Love Cabin right che'here on this very channel...

barts · 1 year ago

This would actually all make sense if MaCain's secret desire is to detroy his own party.

Rufus · 1 year ago

She's five months preggers, and they're going to get married. What are they waiting for? Where was Levi four months ago? Looks like Levi wasn't too eager, but now he's between a rock and a hard place.

ZennButtKicker (tlhwraith) · 1 year ago

I'm going to be real annoyed if come next January we don't see shots of young baby Palin!

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

Isn't that a rock or a book deal?

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

Book deal Levi, book deal...And quick, fame is fleeting.

alaskan · 1 year ago

And, by the way, where's Track? Will he be there? He should still be in the country as he leaves for Iraq on 9/11. Will someone ask him the real reason for enlisting on 9/11/07? Was there a judge working overtime as an army recruiter? How many high schools did he attend? Was there any special reason for his transfers? Does he have any wild and crazy stories to share? Do we get to ask these questions - or is he off limits, too?

hipvictor · 1 year ago

The real reason McCain's folks keep bringing up the daughter is to inoculate themselves from a real discussion of Palin's background and experience. Consuming Traditional and Cable media is infuriating because the Palin conversation is always brought back to Junogate. Most often it is GOP folks doing it. I'm sure that today's talking points directed the operatives to mention the baby as much as possible. First, to cut off all real discussion of McCain's vetting and Palin's past. Second, in the hopes that they can incite a Brooks Brothers feminist riot, complete with backlash and popular sympathy.

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

It's already too comic for serious thought...Levi could be the next Billy Ray Cyrus.

Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago

I'm suprized they didn't give him a mullet before introducing him to the public.

KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago

Pap John was almost ready to leave for Washington for his Inaugural. Levi was devastated at the thought of having to give up the many hours Pap John had devoted to him. As they gazed on the snowy red mountains around magical Sedona, Pap gave Levi a last knuckle bump for good luck and said, "See ya around, ya little jerk." "Goddamn," Levi burst out, "I'm gonna miss ya, old dude. I don't wanna go back to that shithole Alaska. Can't you find me an internship in the White House, so we can be together..."

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

Exactly..
(fade out)
q guitar track as
(fade in)
white two lane road stripes racing by in close-up...

Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago

"Sorry son... I'm a lone wolf, a desperado... a maverick of sorts in a town full of suits. I'd be afraid you'd lose your hometown values, it has that effect on people. Hell, look what it did to Jesse Helms! when he first got here, he wasn't afraid to call a n***er a n***er... but times have changed."

[tear forms in Pap John's eye, camera tracks it as it slowly runs down his deformed cheek]

[Levi lowers his head and kicks at the dust]

"Heck, maybe I can get you a job with Tom DeLay's re-election committee... he can use all the help he can get, and you seem to have a good head on your shoulders. One word of advice, stay away from the Congressmen from Florida and Utah... if they say they want to get to know you better, tell 'em you're strictly "AC".... Its not their fault, there's something in the water in those states. Probably left over from military testing in the 50's."

"Thank's Pap! you'll stop by sometime won't you?"

"That depends, what does your mother look like?"

KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago

:-)

stefanzo · 1 year ago

It's not what they're talking about, but what they're not talking about. No discussion of the economy, of tax structure, lobbyists, foreign policy (besides"Russia is near Alaska!!"), global warming and energy policy. As long as as they can drag this sordid stuff out the press will be mesmerized like deer in the headlights, covering every single move of PreggersGate, and completely ignoring what this is really about - the Presidency of the United States of America.

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

When hasn't this press been dazzled by the trival??? Hasn't stopped people figuring it out yet...

aquarius2 · 1 year ago

BTW let me shake your hand for delivering some fine commentary to the the McCain/Palin nut job.

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

NP, bud...I enjoy a bit o white trash entertainment on occasion and I have to hand it to the Republicans...Watch Cindy drop Todd like a hot potato and go all stalking couger over fresh, tangy young Levi...

barts · 1 year ago

Tic-toc tic-toc tic-toc...2 more nights to explain your position

stefanzo · 1 year ago

"tic-toc"? what kind of crap is that?

How much has the economy been covered at the convention, besides "Obama will raise your taxes!!!"? (which is blatantly wrong). How much solid ideas about Iraq? How much foreign policy discussion?

When I've tuned into the Republican convention, ALL I hear about is Obama (and what I've heard is generally innuendo or outright lies), or people defending the Palin choice - in direct opposition to the Right's previous comments about the other side.

I'm actually a pretty even-handed person, but it looks like this is the silver lining: when everybody is in a frenzy about Palin's vetting, the Right doesn't have to discuss difficult stuff like how to run a country.

barts · 1 year ago

I understand what you are saying except last night at the convention we
saw speaker after speaker launch into an anti-Obama diatribe as
conventioneers were chanting "U S A" like a frenzied football team.
What little of the convention I did see I did not hear anyone discuss
any issues from the MaCain side; although perhaps MaCain himself will
take that opportunity tonight. The American people are not stupid and
they know who is talking about issues and who is just delaying and
detracting everyone's attention off of the point. Truth is Republicans
have nothing to stand on except 8 y of failed Bush policies. I still
say that the Dems' best offense is to refer to Bush as much as possible.

barts · 1 year ago

I'm EMBARRASSED to be from Ohio. Even in Minnesota where the RNC is being held, Obama tops MaCain in th polls, but not in red-neck state of Ohio. When did my home state become the dumb-fuck christian state?

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

Many are still mind-whammied by the terror fear and see McCain as a leader. Obama has to drive home to these fearful women and men his magnetic leadership skills in the debates with McCain and his ruthless protection of the American mainland coupled with the exercise of a foreign policy no less ruthless by its intelligence and compassion.

barts · 1 year ago

Ohioans, you've lost jobs in record numbers and the housing crisis has impacted your state the most of all Midwestern states. Haven't you suffered enough? Why do you come back for more?

iWoman · 1 year ago

Don't blame us up in northeast Ohio! It's those people down south.

barts · 1 year ago

I'm sorry but OH has become fodder for new x-File movies; like a woman
reportedly microwaved her child?!

OK OK to be fair it really is due to the fringe down near Cincinnati.
I've been there - it's scary. If it wasn't for OSU Columbus would be
one big Christian congregation.

mr723 · 1 year ago

Quick question....is there any sort of illegality with the age of consent here? Even though they are "going to get married," is it legal for an 18 year-old male to have sex with a 17 year-old? I was always told that once you hit 18, you were an adult and it was against the law to have sex with a 17 year-old.

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

I've read of prosecutions...a big black kid down south springs rapidly to mind...

Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago

I'm convinced that's why Levi is "doing the right thing here"... if she's 5 months preggers at 17, chances are he knocked her up when she was still 16.

umm... what's the word I'm looking for? oh! JAILBAIT.

mr723 · 1 year ago

True. I wonder how close he is to 19 and how close she is to 16...any birthday info on the two of them?

alaskan · 1 year ago

Too bad birthdates were removed from Wikipedia or you could find out.

Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago

"Levi, you knocked her up... and my "base" and I are proud of you." - John McCain



some 'family values'

aquarius2 · 1 year ago

Oh, let the kid enjoy is 2 minutes of fame because after that it is all downhill. Levi will marry Bristol sometime before the election (just to confuse the press). November 15 or there about Levi will divorce Bristol. Mamma Palin will not like that and when she returns as governor (after losing the election) she will damn sure Levi is run out of the state.

So, I say let him have his 2 minutes of fame.

Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago

I think the big idea here is to bring the 7 time homeowner down to the average Joe level...

like dobson said... this proves the palin family is 'human', as it happens all the time. So they're embracing it as "Yeah, even among OUR types, this happens... we're just like YOU, see?"

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

Golly will the McCain's give Levi and Bristol a condo???

Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago

the house in LaJolla... they just have to pay the back taxes.

Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago

considering this is turning into an immaculate conception... maybe they'll drag out the videotape Levi made when he and the rest of the football team were taking turns?

okay, my bad... but they're really stretching their religious right charter by embracing this.

it just shows it really is ALL about money and power... nothing to do with religion at all.

in biblical times, she'd be stoned... and I don't mean they'd force her to finish that bottle of Captian Morgan she's holding in that one picture.

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

"Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin" smoking on a cabin wall...

captainj1 · 1 year ago

If I were still 18 and got some 17 year old pregnant, I would expect the girls father (maybe even mother if she was an NRA member) to come after me with a shotgun, and not for a shot gun wedding. This guy gets Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant and gets dragged off to the RNC as a celebrity to meet the Presidential candidate.

Isn't there something seriously wrong with this picture. When did Family Values become idiocy?

Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago

to tell the truth... I'm not sure if they KNOW for a fact that Levi is the father.

there was a myspace page that mysteriously disappeared, a different boy proclaiming his love for Bristol '4ever'.

who knows exactly how much 'abstinence' Bristol practiced... and with whom?

fredndallas · 1 year ago

Hopefully the Obama people have an understanding of this and are making effective strategies, because many in the progressive community don't seem to get it.

Evangelicals are self-preserving fanatics. Truth and purity mean ZERO to them. The only thing important is their ability to feel "better than" others. In this case, they can "feel better" than others because they know in their hearts that Palin and her family are "good sinners" who are trying to do the "right thing" and they embrace them warmly for it. Others who criticize the Palins just don't understand -- they don't have the "evangelical insight" with their focus on Palin's (factual) actions betraying the code -- that's what the fanatics expect from sinners, after all. I'm telling you NOTHING is going to break the evangelical fanaticism of support for Palin. The McCain people know this.

Meanwhile the dust up, progressive and media outrage at the hypocrisy is and will take the focus totally off of McCain's jackass behavior, charade and dozen house arrogance over the whiners. The McCain people know this.

Perhaps Palin's nomination will be pulled back, though it is not likely. But if it does not succeed in nomination or election it will NOT be for lack of evangelical support. These people are NOT thinkers and they couldn't care less about facts.

What is important is the rest of the electorate and getting the visibility back on the issues. At the moment the Repubs are succeeding brilliantly with their "create your own reality", "it's not about the issues" tactics.

All of us need to detach from the insulting outrage of this pick (which confirms all we know about McCain) and get back to the business of keeping the country from going down the drain. McCain has solidified the theocrazy vote and motivation now. Every second wasted now is bad for us.

(PS to John: Interesting to see you use the "buzzword" "hypocrisy" now. Hmmm.)

Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago

the phrase is 'born-again'... you can fuck up as much and as bad as you want, and be 'born-again-again'.

see?

Kes · 1 year ago

I wonder what the Republicans would do if Democrats started saying things like, "Poor Bristol. Just like Elizabeth Edwards, she's been completely humiliated by her family member's personal ambition."

How would they respond to that, I wonder?

BostonJoe · 1 year ago

Elizabeth Edwards probably isn't embarrassed about John running for president. She probably is embarressed that Hillary didn't get the nomination because of his actions.

tbhull · 1 year ago

This is a good Christia tale of man's foibles caused by original sin. The story humanizes and normalizes the Palin clan and sets the stage for the abortion debate. Rise, fall and redemption all in just 17 years of existence. Whether the abrotiuon debate is a winner for the repubs remains to be seen.

bluestockton · 1 year ago

Obama may want to float above sordid stories about a pregnant teenager. But if the Rethugs themselves are thrusting her and her accomplice into the spotlight, all bets are off.

Butch1 · 1 year ago

Here are some quotes from Levi Johnson, her boy friend. Now isn't he going to be a great addition to her Christian family? I realize he is only 18 yrs old but really folks . . .
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"Levi Johnston Quotes
Levi Johnston: I don't want kids.

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Levi Johnston: Ya f*** with me I'll kick your ass.

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Levi Johnston: I like to go camping and hang out with the boys, do some fishing, shoot some s**t and just f***in' chillin' I guess.

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Levi Johnston: I'm a f***in' redneck who likes to snowboard and ride dirt bikes. But I live to play hockey.

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bjohnm · 1 year ago

fredndallas, you are correct in your assessment of how the evangelicals will take this. Also, I believe the McCain camp is keeping this alive. Let me try to explain. The conversation goes on and on in the media. It doesn't matter if the Obama campaign and the other Dems are discussing it or not. The extreme right, remember, believes that all MSM is just a mouthpiece of the democratic party. (We may know better, but they are convinced of it.) So, the more the MSM talks about it, the more it looks as if the Dems are attacking this simple small town family who had something unfortunate happen (like any family might), and "isn't it just disgusting the way the MSM and the Dems won't let go of this, and leave these children alone." Don't think for a minute that some of the krazy kristian kooks aren't following that line of thought, and the Repubs are experts at controlling the message in that way.

So, I believe the McCain people are making a big thing of it in fact, while saying it's a topic that's off limits. Others on here also note that it is a distraction from the real issues of Palin's qualifications, and McCain's idiocy. This helps with that...right now, the Repubs are running two lines of talking points to quash any opposition to Palin:

1. Since she's a woman, anything negative you might say about her is an insult to all women.

2. Anyone who makes any critical comment has the Repub on the panel immediately bring up the preganancy issue (whether that was the topic or not), in such as a way as to say..."why do you keep bringing that up. What a great thing that the family is stickng together through all this, and Bristol is doing the right thing by keeping the baby, and I just don't understand why you keep criticising this family."

My recommendation is that not one single Democratic operative should even participate in a discussion that involves teen pregnancy right now. We all need to completely shut up so that the MSM runs out of foils to run the story against. Then it will die slowly...but the Repubs will try to keep it going for a while. It's a great tool for them. (A tool for the tools.)