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AMERICAblog: McCain VP Annoucement Open Thread

  • AdrianBrowne · 1 year ago
    Linda Werthheimer on NPR is openly, literally laughing at the pick of Sarah Palin.

    It's great.
  • gallery · 1 year ago
    Oh this is gonna be RICH tonight.
    Bill Maher starts again, ( the writers are probably thanking GOD for this ) and Keith O is gonna wipe the floor with her inexperience.
    And I thought last night couldn't get any better !
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    Glo sticks and tight shots...Very torture-y.
  • PJT · 1 year ago
    I am at a loss for words. I have no idea where to begin with this, or where it will lead. With the GOP, whenever it sounds too weird to be true, I assume that there is a dirty trick being played while our attention is distracted.

    So, beginning of the end for McCain, or simply a cynical political calculation that might work?

    Interesting stuff.
  • zavlin · 1 year ago
    I think it might work if the election was 10 days from now...i think her buzz factor is going to fall apart after that.
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    Robert stated, "It's not going to work. Palin doesn't come close to sharing the values of Hillary voters." Really? Ya think? I guess Anita Bryant and Phyllis Schlafly were too old and Palin was the next best thing.
  • ClintonHater · 1 year ago
    Not to mention she is an anti-gay bigot
  • dogeatdogi · 1 year ago
    McCain is just painful to watch
  • Joneses · 1 year ago
    This is the GOPs best and the brightest.
  • jcgraham77 · 1 year ago
    I think that is what voters are going to be asking. They are going to see this as an obvious misaimed counter at Obama's fresh face. I think it is so bizarre that gop voters are going to just sit home.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    Palin, no experience to step into the presidency in the case of McCain's illness, under investigation for abuse of power in her own state, husband for BP worker, against Roe vs Wade, against gay marriage and from a state whose Senators and Reps have been influenced by big oil/

    I don't believe this was the smartest thing John McCain has ever done. In fact, that should be a Dem talking pointing, McCain's judgment to lead this country.
  • lisainWA · 1 year ago
    McCain is old. He could die in office. Can anyone see Palin being president? Seriously? And, it ticks me off that she is supposed to capture Hillary voters. She has girl parts but that's about all she has in common with Hillary. Women voters aren't that stupid.
  • vkobaya · 1 year ago
    She has girl parts

    I think that explains it. Former runner-up in Miss Alaska contest. McCain was letting his little head do his thinking.
  • zavlin · 1 year ago
    such a bizzare pick....
  • seohio · 1 year ago
    As a word of caution, I heard a pundit say that the Dems laughed at Quayle and Agnew as the choice, and the Republicans went onto win the White House. I am solidly behind Barack (since 2003). I would just say that the campaign sees something in this woman. I don't think they chose her to go after Clinton voters. The McCain campaign is going to run a conservative--liberal campaign. She is the epitome of the conservative movement--mother, "pro-life," NRA, anti-gay, and the conservative laundry list goes on and on. We must remember it's not Obama vs. Palin, but Obama vs. McCain.

    I am listening to her now, and her voice is shreaking!
  • devis1 · 1 year ago
    The crowd reminded him it was his birthday. His memory is bad.
  • sittenpretty · 1 year ago
    grosheries
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    and announcing it so closely after Obama's marvelous speech is the biggest indication of desperation...
  • sittenpretty · 1 year ago
    he can NOT give that SIMPLE speech without cue cards
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    He seemed to be looking down too much to be reading from a Teleprompter. He must have had notes on the podium. Announcing the VP: you'd think he could extemporize for more energy and pizzazz.
  • seohio · 1 year ago
    Is it just me, or is this Grandpa Simpson event lackluster, with non-genuine "enthusiasm?" I bet the people in the audience are drinking their prune juice!
  • canuck55 · 1 year ago
    Has she even been outside of the USA, other than driving through British Columbia to get to the lower 48?
    "What foreign capitals have you been to Governor? Well, uh, I've been to Spuzzum, Pouce Coupe, Yaak, Skookumchuck, and Horsefly British Columbia, Canada, all those big international capitals. Yeah, that Pouce Coupe is so citified that you can't even drive your ski doo on the street."
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    "Grit..."
    Hah!
    Why not Mary Richards' spunk???
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    I dunno, Thinking about it more . . . guns, NRA, investigations, hunting, she's kinda butch. She and Cindy can kick back have a few beers, sit around the house(s) and maybe . . .
  • houstonray · 1 year ago
    Ewww, I threw up a little in my mouth...
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    Um let's see. McCain just said not from Washington and mother of five. Big cheers from the crowd,

    Well that makes it just fine, All you have to be in order to be the VP is not from Washington and a prolific producer of children.
  • Django · 1 year ago
    ...and the last one with Down's Syndrome to boot, which may have helped put her over the top. I agree, very shrewd pick. And folks, remember: Poppy beat Dukakis in '88 with Qualye in the back seat...

    Then again, she could turn out to be McCain's own Harriet Miers...
  • ZennButtKicker (tlhwraith) · 1 year ago
    Uhh, Bush I could have won with a vegatable running with him. Bush I won because of Reagans popularity. McCain has just the opposite from the current sitting POTUS. Instead of someone that will deliver the election for him, Bush II is going to weigh him down.

    If people are going to use history, let's use all of it. Palin is a gimmick and if Obama and company do their job, she'll be laughing stock very soon. Unlike 88, there's no "Great communicator" to bail out the GOP and deliver them one more win.

    Also, as a footnote, remember that Bush I lost re-election, with Dan Quayle too.
  • naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago
    Obama is NOT Dukakis.
  • jackofallthumbs · 1 year ago
    You guys (and the Lind Werthheimers of the world) are missing the point. This is a very savvy pick, and one that (as an ardent Obama supporter) I've been worried about for a month.

    http://selfsufficientsteward.com/?p=304

    She energizes the base, she attracts disaffected Libertarian types, she picks up some voters attracted to a woman (as well as those who are now paying attention because she is a very pretty woman), she picks up the sportsmen/women.

    No, this is a shrewd pick indeed.

    After all, what are we talking about, the morning after the acceptance speech of a lifetime?
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    Please...We'll be talking about her bi-curious husband Todd...
  • houstonray · 1 year ago
    Rumor or conjecture? Do tell!!
  • okojo · 1 year ago
    No, she doesn't energize the base. The "Base" wants someone like Sam Brownback, or some psychotic right winger. Sarah Palin is not known or has cater to the "base" ever before. She hasn't dealt with big powerful voting blocs, except for the energy cartels. She may pick a couple hunters, but she needs to pick up women in the suburbs of Ohio, Missouri, Colorado and New Mexico.

    She hasn't been on the National Stage before, I think this may be a big shock in dealing with the cutthroat politics on the national stage, even whether she will handle the campaign staff that McCain will give her, and act like a robot.
  • jackofallthumbs · 1 year ago
    The base will take what they can get and her politics are the same as a Brownback, or more importantly, a Huckabee.

    She will pick up enough of those women in Ohio, Colorado and elsewhere, who will be (secretly perhaps) proud of a woman who has successfully juggled career and family, just like they have.

    This was one smart pick.
  • okojo · 1 year ago
    "The base" doesn't know her except she didn't abort her baby with downs syndrome and she belongs to a fundamentalist church. She isn't going to pick up much from Ohio, the Midwest, etc. given she has live in Alaska most of her life, if her job is to attract women to the Repub ticket, she needs to connect to stated voting bloc. Women aren't going to vote for a Republican Version of the Stepford Wife. They want someone who understands their interest, not some Michelle Bachman clone.
  • okojo · 1 year ago
    Besides it isn't a smart pick, she doesn't have a strong political organization or dealt with a national campaign or has been a big fundraiser for the Republicans. McCain is taking a big gamble. I think it is stupid for McCain to pick Palin for the reasons stated, to attract independent registered women. He was better off picking Olympia
    Snowe, someone from the Southwest to attract Latino voters, or someone independent in a sense within the Republican Party.

    McCain is taking a gamble. She didn't win much on organization as much as a backlash from Murkowski. The mayor of New York runs a bigger and much more powerful organization than the Governor of Alaska. All those Federal Lands aren't under her domain. If any interests she seemed to like is the fishing industry, a big interest in Alaska.
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    I agree; it's not a pick for anything but getting McCain elected on Nov 4th. That's all that matters to the GOP and McCain's campaign. She is not plausible for anything other than getting the old man elected. But it is a very canny pick for electioneering purposes.
  • devis1 · 1 year ago
    Gotta love the Breaking News scroll on MSNBC:

    "McCain: I found someone who grew up in a hard working middle class family."

    Wow-he never saw one before?
  • hopelesspedant · 1 year ago
    Hopefully, the Obama campaign is not going to underestimate her like people here are.

    McCain is going to run against Washington, as a reformer, and pushing immediate energy solutions. That Palin is a woman with a compelling story helps as well.

    Let's not get cocky or complacent.
  • zavlin · 1 year ago
    Its a good idea to not get cocky, but man, this is a realllly risky pick.
  • jackofallthumbs · 1 year ago
    You are absolutely correct. This is a VERY smart pick, despite the risk.
  • ClintonHater · 1 year ago
    I wonder if she is going to talk about how she will put all the gays in concentration camps when Mr. Cancer Face drops dead.
  • zavlin · 1 year ago
    Unfortunately i think mccain is counting on palin scoring him some youth points. Shes attractive, and will probably get votes based on that alone.
  • jcgraham77 · 1 year ago
    She isn't that attractive. She reminds me of a glammed up Katherine Harris.
  • PJT · 1 year ago
    I am listening to this online, and it's just a long musical passage... Is she doing a dance or something I can't see?
  • zavlin · 1 year ago
    shes talking now
  • heathwood · 1 year ago
    How long before he calls her the C word.
  • DCinDC · 1 year ago
    Do you think McCain wanted a hot sex queen to hang out with on the McCain Bus? McCain cheated on Cindy with a reporter back in 2000. Who knows what this old fool really wants from his Vice President. McCain sure picked a young hottie! LOL
  • dcs · 1 year ago
    this is a hoot. MMMM, mooseburgers!
  • jabbadeus · 1 year ago
    Anyone else notice how many empty seats there are? They are trying to frame the shot to hide them, but it looks like there are empty seats starting in the 10th row of the bleachers. The arena only has a capacity of 12,000 and McCain can't fill that.
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    Chiaroscuro lighting hides any number of flaws...
  • JustAnOldLady · 1 year ago
    Yup, my thoughts exactly.............thinking Republicans are so outta there........
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    Did you notice how many older men were NOT applauding while she was speaking?
  • mweholt · 1 year ago
    Watching Palin speak right now, and pardon me for saying so... but somebody should tell McCain to look somewhere else as she starts speaking. Whatever he is *really* looking at, he totally appears to be checking out the Governor's ass.
  • Upland_Oddball · 1 year ago
    I can't imagine that any real supporter of Hillary, as opposed to a Republican out to stir up dissention, will take this as anything else than a direct insult. Hillary didn't give up nearly two years of her life, millions of dollars she had to raise, and put her reputation and principles on the line, just to enable McCain to pick such a wingnut lightweight and bestow upon her Hillary's mantle. This will cement the Hillary/Obama partnership.
  • martha · 1 year ago
    Excellent point. I hope you are right.
  • ronfromnh · 1 year ago
    she's a great looking former beauty queen that has five kids and smokes weed. she is also under investigation for trying to get revenge on her sister's ex-husband. what's not to like? great choice, john
  • ronfromnh · 1 year ago
    cgecjubg
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    One thing comes to mind:

    More of the same
  • vkobaya · 1 year ago
    she is also under investigation for trying to get revenge on her sister's ex-husband.

    Hey! That is one thing I won't hold against her. The SOB is a state trooper who slapped around Palin's sister and then tasered her nephew. I would have voted for acquital if she had shot the GD macho cop, one of those jerks who proves his manhood by slapping around women and abusing kids. If there is a time and a place for governor to abuse the power of that office, that is it.

    Otherwise, the choice of Palin is a sickening choice. As someone up-thread mentioned, McCain had plenty of far more experienced, better qualified candidates to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, especially considering McCain's very fragile health. Of course, maybe McCain has the same contract with Satan that Cheney has, he won't die in office.

    Oops! Oh yeah! This choice as his running mate also thoroughly undercuts his charge that Obama has no experience and is unqualified.
  • houstonray · 1 year ago
    Sorry, but SOB or not, there is ZERO reason to EVER abuse the power of your office...that justification has led to too many abuses of power.

    But agree with you on the downside of her as choice.
  • okojo · 1 year ago
    She didn't shitcanned her ex brother in law, she shitcanned the head of Alaska State Law Enforcement for it appears this reason alone. I don't think this will have much traction, given the brother in law will be painted as a monster.

    I think a much bigger issue will be her youngest child who has Down Syndrome. I think she needs to be careful how she deals with health care issue on the stump.

    i really think this is a bad choice, not because Palin is a bad person, or incompetent, but she is being thrown on the National stage with an intense amount of scrutiny.
  • vkobaya · 1 year ago
    Yes, you are both right and I was wrong. I wouldn't blame her for firing her jerk of a brother-in-law and would have voted for acquital if she shot him even emptied both barrels of a shotgun into him. Sigh! no, she is typical corrupt Republican as she tried to get someone else to do her dirty work for her and then fired him when he wouldn't. And she denied that she did it, another lying Republican. If she had fried him herself and honestly admitted it, I couldn't blame her, but no she is just another corrupt Republican.

    Sorry! My apologies to every good smart Democrat.
  • Happy_Housewife · 1 year ago
    I'd be plenty mad if I had a jerk brother-in-law abusing my sister and kids. HOWEVER, there are much more effective ways of dealing with problems like this, within an ethical and legal context. You'd think that someone who would presumably be within a (old, feeble) heartbeat of the president would know how to deal with a situation like that.

    But then again, she apparently doesn't know what a VP does, so there you go.

    God, Hillary - get out there and slap this airhead down. You too, Geraldine.
  • devis1 · 1 year ago
    Palin:
    "The bigger the hair, the closer to God"
  • gallery · 1 year ago
    Yea !
    It's Dan Quayle in a dress.
    How do YOU spell potato governor?
  • martha · 1 year ago
    Wow. This is painful to watch. She sounds like someone running for alderwoman or mayor - SO not ready for primetime. BUT, I've been wrong before. Repugs would probably love to have a beer with her.
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    I'm not watching. I can't watch anything Repugnican right now. Yuk. But your comments are hysterical. Please keep it up. This is GREAT.
  • Rustyzipper · 1 year ago
    She is a hottie, but WTF was he thinking.... VP's are normally a pit bull, this is a tea cup poodle.
  • djhwood · 1 year ago
    I'm watching and listening to this and all I can think of when she talks is....nails on a chalkboard!!!!! How annoying...! What....Hef's girls weren't available!?
  • vkobaya · 1 year ago
    Hef's a liberal and doesn't share with Republicans.
  • therepguy · 1 year ago
    I can't believe that the American women is not going to see through this sham... of a pick!

    Talk about playing to the lowest common dominator
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    They've dredged a multi-state region for the crowd...My rotten pimple-faced, check 'n go congressman Geoff Davis from KY kissed Palin as she arrived on stage...
  • ClintonHater · 1 year ago
    Women on this blog:

    How do you see this pick?
  • cambridge1246 · 1 year ago
    Why would you even bother asking? Between the comments both above this and below, it has already been a hoot for all the men here to write every sexist comment they can think of. Between her hair, her outfit, her voice, her background, her decision to continue her pregnancy even though her child had down's syndrome, her reference to Mayor rather than Governor........ why would you care what a woman actually thinks? She has two more years running a state than Byden has.
  • vkobaya · 1 year ago
    You forgot her primary qualification, her cup size.
  • ClintonHater · 1 year ago
    I don't call running a state of 50 people experience. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
  • jackofallthumbs · 1 year ago
    I agree that almost all the posts are missing what a savvy pick this was for McCain.

    As an ardent Obama supporter, I was REALLY hoping that he wouldn't pick Palin.
  • therepguy · 1 year ago
    I sure hope he healthy cause he's going to need to be...
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    She told Congress???? WTF Anybody ever remember this chick standing up to Congress?

    She has been on for five minutes and there are so many holes in her speech it is like a sponge.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Google says she lied about that.
  • RobertSeattle · 1 year ago
    I'm in a Full Panic!!!! Obama/Biden may not win Alaska!!!
  • scottinsf · 1 year ago
    I went to wikipedia because I was trying to figure out all the fucked up names she gave her children.

    I'm now cleaning coffee off my monitor.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    LOL I thought the same thing
  • scottinsf · 1 year ago
    I see it got cleaned up. Hilarious while it lasted.
  • houstonray · 1 year ago
    Awww, man, what did someone put up there? I missed it! I was at Wiki this morning reading about her but hadn't been back this afternoon...
  • rooney · 1 year ago
    what a joke. and its creepy to me that McCain feels like he has to stand next to her while she speaks. So demeaning. But her husband is a world champion snow machine racer!
  • devis1 · 1 year ago
    Very creepy.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    She's wearing black. How fitting.

    Willow, Peiffer and Trig? WTF?
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    what are Willow Peiffer and Trig? I'm not watching.
  • martha · 1 year ago
    The names of her kids. You can't make this stuff up. She is worse than awful.
  • houstonray · 1 year ago
    Willow, Piper, and Bristol are the girls and Track and Trig are the boys...

    Why do I think of Charmed or Buffy the Vampire Slayer?
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    LOL! Good one!
  • Wesinoregon · 1 year ago
    I'm in total shock...................................you have GOT to be kidding me.
  • Rustyzipper · 1 year ago
    I feel like I'm watching a PTA meeting.
  • dogeatdogi · 1 year ago
    EXACTLY!!!
  • canuck55 · 1 year ago
    She just played the POW card.
    And McCain just checked out her booty!
    And did she just say Nuculer?
    And why is he standing so close? Is he a puppeteer with his hand u her back?
    He just checked out her ass again!
  • dogeatdogi · 1 year ago
    WOW, I really can't believe he picked this woman.
  • SSB · 1 year ago
    My God. She sounds like a bad high school debater.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    SHE SAID NUKULAR!!!!
  • therepguy · 1 year ago
    A women right to choose is doomed if these two republican fascist get into power... and we can all forget about the Supreme Court as a guardian for the little guy!

    Shit now there talking war!
  • TheOriginalLiz · 1 year ago
    He's thinking of a 3some with Cindy, not how to govern a country.
  • Wesinoregon · 1 year ago
    She said "a ship is safe in a harbor?" Like Pearl Harbor? OMG!!!!!!!!!!
  • firebrand · 1 year ago
    Sarah Palin -Investigated for Abuse of Power

    http://palininvestigated.blogspot.com/
  • rkarena · 1 year ago
    All he's done is check out her butt the entire time - it's CRAZY!
  • Alexmilstein · 1 year ago
    Would you check out the size of her....flag lapel pin?

    Good thing it's that huge, since it draws away from the fact that JOHN MCCAIN IS NOT WEARING A FLAG LAPEL PIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Somebody put Sean Hannity on the case right away...
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    A flag lapel pin is holding Johnny's hips together...
  • frank14 · 1 year ago
    Talk about experience!! After all, as John points out, this self-confessed ex-soccer mom has tons of experience, e.g., having been mayor of Wasilla which is after all the "largest community in the borough":

    From Wikipedia:
    "Wasilla is part of the Anchorage, Alaska Metropolitan Statistical Area. As of the 2000 census, its population was 5,470. The 2005 estimate gives it a population of 8,471, making it the largest community in the borough."
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Does that include Moose?
  • KYJurisDoctor · 1 year ago
    John McCain’s pick of Sarah Palin is a SOLID one for REAL Conservatives, and announcing the pick today is a strategic masterpiece, knocking out Barack Obama/Joe Biden’s after convention euphoria!:

    http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/ 2008/ 08/ breaking-news-its-unofficially-official.html#links
  • TampaZeke · 1 year ago
    People are STILL talking about the Democratic Convention and the Obama speech.

    The ONLY distraction this announcement is causing is the uproar in pundit-land, liberal AND conservative, over what an absurdly stupid choice this was.

    Good luck though with selling your meme!
  • TampaZeke · 1 year ago
    KYJurisDoctor, that's HY-sterical!

    Do you do standup or are you just naturally gifted with the ability to make people laugh?
  • firebrand · 1 year ago
    What kind of weed are you smoking...and why aren't you sharing????
  • kdoug · 1 year ago
    No weed. A right wing concern troll. Multiple posts of the same comment.
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    Is Rove still paying $10 for you clowns to spill this funny stuff?

    Oh, thanks for the COMIC RELIEF!
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Her husband races snow machines. I guess you can do that when you're in the pocket of big oil.
  • TheAmericanRealist · 1 year ago
    Woot. My mother for Vice President!

    ...what the hell is this?
  • ClintonHater · 1 year ago
    If I was Cindy McSame I would be scared... He likes the young stuff.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    OMG she is like a walking book of platitudes. She is going to run out of things to say in 60 days, I mean there are just so many books she can look in to find statements. And NOW she is going after the HIllary voters.
  • Peaches · 1 year ago
    How sad is this?
  • vkobaya · 1 year ago
    She is going to run out of things to say in 60 days,

    You're unusually genereous. I would have given her 60 seconds.
  • frank14 · 1 year ago
    Whoops... as Robert points out...
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    Pitiful speech...very Quaylesque.
  • SSB · 1 year ago
    It was sooooo nice that she mentioned her twentieth wedding anniversary rather that the three year anniversary of Katrina that killed 1000+ people. Classy.
  • Bcre8ve · 1 year ago
    Or McSame's birthday. They should have had a cake!
  • devis1 · 1 year ago
    Palin: "I will not use birth control and god dammit it is god's will that I continue to produce genetically damaged children."
  • ClintonHater · 1 year ago
    bwahahahahahahaha
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    C'mon.

    She's a weak enough candidate without bringing that up.
  • CDS2 · 1 year ago
    Good for you Bush....
  • devis1 · 1 year ago
    Really? Is it fair to a child that your mother is so selfish she doesn't consider her age and keeps popping out babies because it's god will?
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    Ok, Im' watching now. Looks like the Christian Broadcasting Channel.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    KB Hutchinson would have been a great move by McCain.

    Thank God he didn't make it.
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    Ooh, Sin-dy's starting to couger-stalk Todd...
  • tazpa · 1 year ago
    This pick is an obvious attempt to go after Hillary supporters. What the GOP doesn't understand is that they didn't support Hillary because she was a woman but because she was Hillary. And they show their own misogynistic views to think that women can be so easily duped.
  • ClintonHater · 1 year ago
    We are about to see soon. I hope women don't fall for it.
  • zavlin · 1 year ago
    Frankly id be real nervous if i was a republican. Palin wasnt the most qualified in the running. Shes a gimmick pick. If hillary won the nomination theres no way they ever pick Palin as vp. Biden was a pick of substance, hes really probably the best vp canidate out there, and supports womens rights more than she does.
  • Aanya · 1 year ago
    Horay!!!! McCain picked Tina Fey for his running mate!
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    Well, she dresses very . . . economically.
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    WalMart and QVC clothes and make-up...Let's hope Sin-dy takes command of Plain er Palin's make-over.
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    McCain is going to lose. Air America was LAUGHING so hard this morning about how much easier McCain made it for Obama to win.

    http://www.adn.com/monegan/story/492077.html

    "The Legislature has hired Steve Branchflower, a retired state prosecutor, to investigate the circumstances surrounding the Monegan firing. That includes looking at accusations that Palin, her aides and her husband had pressured Monegan to fire a state trooper who went through a divorce with the governor's sister."
  • zavlin · 1 year ago
    Hard to say what kind of effect this scandal is going to have on voters. Its not exactly the most damaging issue, since she'l be made to seem as protecting her sister. Of course, from a logical stand point it should cost them alot of votes.
  • HereinDC · 1 year ago
    I think I said this on another thread...\
    and this is right up John A's alley.

    Palin has 5 young kids and I think one has down syndrome.

    here's the spark: I would even bet...Dr. Laura would not approve of a mother of five young kids trying to be VP. dr. Laura is so opposed to a mother of 5 young kids working.
    Just a thought....
    Kind of puts a wrench into "Family Values"
  • scottinsf · 1 year ago
    That is an excellent point. I want to hear what Dr. Laura thinks of this. It's the first time I cared what her opinion is.
  • tsuki · 1 year ago
    If the PUMAs go for Palin, we should rename them the VAGINAs.

    Any of those claiming to be Hillary voters that would accept Palin as a substitute are nuts.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Oil Tycoons and war trump the economy. That's obvious.
  • Nuffsaid · 1 year ago
    I can't figure out if McSame is that dumb or if he thinks the American voter is. Hey everybody look how progressive I am. She has a vagina. This should pull in all the womens votes, never mind she is futher right than Rove.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    Frist impression, Biden isn't going to have to use to many brain cells to debate her. She is a lighweight and the pundits are going to rip her to shreds before the November election.
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    I'd say they're doing a pretty good job in the first hour.
  • JamesR · 1 year ago
    Isn't maverick another word for those bony wild horses living on BLM land rounded up every few years by helicopter to be made into dog food?

    Looks like he just picked a mare. Both destined for the cannery.

    I wonder if she can spell "potato?"
  • kladinvt · 1 year ago
    Same repug agenda in a 'new dress'!
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    She sure is corrupt:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/29/10940/8...


    Rove said that won't matter because Mukasey will fix it all.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
  • naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago
    Oh yeah. What gravitas, eh?
  • curmudgeon57 · 1 year ago
    This may be the dumbest political decision of the last 50 years. After ten minutes of Governor Palin on CNN, the best that I can say is that she is provincial. She appears to be competent, but unsophisticated, insubstantial, and lacking in charisma.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Her state has the same population as Obama's old State Senate district, only not near as diversified or complex.
  • notnearasmartimsure · 1 year ago
    I thought she appeared very competent and poised. And I'm a Dem. Not sure how you define sophistication, unless you cite Bush as the example. In that case, what matters sohistication?
  • ClintonHater · 1 year ago
    Obama is going to have to promise Hillary the Secretary of Defense so he can have her be a strong surrogate for him I think. Because I hate to say it, but he'll need her help.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Put her in charge of health care reform.

    That's her life's work anyway.
  • ClintonHater · 1 year ago
    But she'll prolly want Secretary of defense; it's a more high profile role, and she was on the armed service committee.
  • ruthlessgravity · 1 year ago
    I wouldn't be surprised to see Hillary get the nod for Secretary of State. It plays into the Clinton diplomatic legacy and is the most important cabinet level position. I originally thought it would go to Biden.
  • naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago
    Obama does not need to make an impulsive move to answer McCain, nor will he ever. Going around the country promising Hillary the DOD would be waving the red flag in front of the bull. I do agree that Obama should come out and say how Hillary will have a prominent place in his administration if she so choses.
  • HereinDC · 1 year ago
    She has a 4month old with Down syndrome.
    Geeze, how could any mother want to take on running for a VP with a 4 month old.

    I REALLY have to question her judgement.

    that is just SAD.
  • naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago
    I wonder how this choice will play with the Southern Baptist Convention who view women's place being in the home and who feel that wives should be subordinate to their husbands.
  • KerrynowCampau · 1 year ago
    That is what I was thinking as well. It seems there are more of them than mad Hillary supporters...
  • notnearasmartimsure · 1 year ago
    Good point- effective even without viciousness and unproductive sarcasm.
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    According to www.ws-health.com/risk.htm:
    Palin had a 1 in 35 chance at age 43 of having a baby with Down Syndrome. (At age 33: a 1 in 420 chance).
    Expect this before the day is through: "No one is more pro-life than Palin and Barack Obama would have killed her Down Syndrome baby--AFTER he was born!"
  • naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago
    I was an Obama supporter from the beginning, but if I were a Hillary supporter, I would feel equally insulted with these more qualified Republican women who have been passed over. I hope Clinton die-hards will consider if Gov. Palin is the equal of Hillary Clinton in education, experience, intellligence, political moxie, well just about anything except the bod. It's an insult to Hillary Clinton to think that this woman is a plug in for her. The only thing they have in common is their vaginas.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Cindy McCain borrowed a cast from Code Pink.
  • martha · 1 year ago
    Hillary had to prove herself over and over, to show she could be commander in chief and now MSNBC is going on and on about how because Palin has 5 kids she could really appeal to women. So now weshould pick someone a heartbeat away from the president because she has alot of children! This is scarey. The MSM is dangerous.
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    Cindy fell in love with her Vicodin Nut Chews...
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    Not MSNBC just Andrea Mitchell trying her damnedest to start the pro talk for Palin. Let's wait and see what Matthews and Olberman have to say.
  • PlusDistance · 1 year ago
    She knows how to govern. She knows how to stand up to special interests. She knows how to put vaseline on her teeth to get that big shiny second-place smile.

    Plus she'll wipe the floor with Biden in the swimsuit competition.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    She wore black.
  • houstonray · 1 year ago
    Well it IS McCain's birthday afterall...
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    I doubt Palin will have much of an impact on those strongly committed to voting for McBush, but misogyny, just like anti-gay rights and racism, runs deep in conservative veins and for those conservatives who are wavering between Obama and McCain, this could tip them to our side. Forget her lack of qualification. It is her gender that may sway them to the Dem ticket.
  • phildutra · 1 year ago
    McCain is bringing the culture of corruption TO Wahsington!
  • notnearasmartimsure · 1 year ago
    Bringing?
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    Tucker Bounds on CNN: Republicans are getting emails from Dems on what a wonderful choice Palin is.

    Obviously the pain meds have kicked in.
  • houstonray · 1 year ago
    Maybe it's wonderful because they know it's a bad choice and Tucker just doesn't get it??
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    Regarding Palin's handicapped child...Miz nutty Noonan, during her Mourning Joe segment, made a crack about Democrats always having sick children..."little two-headed babies" La Peggy said as Joe and Mikka laughed and laughed.
    How embarassing is it that neenie nooner Noonan's party has a sick "two--headed" baby candidate as well?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marty-kaplan/pegg...
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    "Leave your family behind and go travel the country so that the Bush Legacy can live on"

    She has a newborn! What a selfish bitch. You can tell her husband is a crossdresser.
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    Sin-dy sniffed out his "player" musk...
  • samiinh · 1 year ago
    McCain stood there with a look on his face that said to me, "Jesus, what have I done."
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    Chuck Todd just said that McCain just jumped on the change bandwagon, Obama's change wagon. Now that would have been good IF if was someone with the experience and ABILITY to lead this country in the event of McCain's demise.

    Sorry, but a "hockey mom" , mother of five is not my idea of change, it is my idea that a disaster could easily happen should McCain die.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.

    Palin came across as a big fat ZERO.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    There's no difference between Alaska and Texas when it comes to Republicans!!
  • snowpotato · 1 year ago
    So, McCain's wife is an ex-beauty queen as is Sarah Palin. If he wants to continue to surround himself with beauty queens, here's an idea for someone to put in his cabinet that will fit right in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
  • paperboy · 1 year ago
    Danicka Quail
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    I'm very curious to see how the Hillary people will take this.

    Obviously, it's an attempt to get them over to the Repub side.

    However, whenever people talked about Obama considering a woman who wasn't Hillary, it was generally thought they would be hostile to her and consider it as pandering to them without giving them what they wanted.

    Will that be the case here?
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Looks like the economy goes to the back burner.
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    A few not so secret racists I've heard from have grasped the Palin straw...
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    If this is the FIRST choice of a John McCain government, what's next?? This country cannot go forward with irresponsible choices to lead it out the quagmire it is in right now. Choices must be made to lead us forward, not garner votes in the short term.
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    It's a GREAT pick to get McCain to the 4th of Nov. She's pro-foetus, so she will shore up the base and Dobson's millions won't mind that she's a Papist; she's NRA, so she's a man's woman; she's a girly-girl, too, with that whole Tina Fey thing going on and a hockey mom. The hausfraus will adore her, trust me. She has a kid in Eye-rack (as she pronounces it), so that gets the warlovers' vote. She has an infant with Down Syndrome, so there will be an avalanche of soft-focus bathos which will make her superbly electable. The cable news shows are already showing her shopping in the supermarket, much more convincingly than McCain or Biden, for that matter.
    BUT: What happens after 4th Nov: the GOP is either not thinking about that, or they don't care.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    They don't care. Winning at all costs is the Rovian policy that continues to dominate Republican thinking. Just get the votes. The difference, as I see it, is that this election is about changing this country and leading it forward. Both parties want to win, but to win at all costs throws this country into a terrible, terrible black hole.
  • jwkempton · 1 year ago
    "Black Hole" is an offensive term for our African American friends. Abyss would have been a better choice of words.
  • CitizenX · 1 year ago
    Uhhhh.. not really.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    I still think Kay Bailey Hutchinson would have been a much scarier pick.

    (Good thing McCain can't get along with 99 percent of his Senate colleagues.)
  • HereinDC · 1 year ago
    Just heard on Thom Hartman that word is that the 17 year old daughter is pregnant and unmarried. ( It is a small town they live...so word gets out)
  • moreleesafer · 1 year ago
    She was mayor of a town I used to live in. Wasilla AK.

    WOW. Johnny McDesperate really pulled one out of Rove's ass didn't he.

    no one saw this coming. I bet he did not make the decision until after he realized that he could not count on the dissention among the dems to bring the Hillary voters to his side.
  • houstonray · 1 year ago
    You used to live there? What was it like? Super small town, right?
  • Rab · 1 year ago
    Haaaaaaaaaa...... McCain jumped the shark and he landed a Palin. Obama will have a landslide in November and Gramps just made sure of it.
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    You WILL all learn, thanks to major media coverage in the next 2 months, that is correctly: Down Syndrome.
  • KerrynowCampau · 1 year ago
    Someone totally unsuited for the job....

    Typical GOP pick.
  • Nuffsaid · 1 year ago
    Maybe nobody else wanted to be part of a losing run for the White House. I have a feeling the Repug party is going to hang McSame out to dry this year and hope that they can tie up congress enough so Obama can't get anything through and they can can take back power in 2012. Seems to me that everybody else dropped out very earily and just left McSame as the default canidate. Knowing that Bush had pissed off enough voters to give it to the Dems. Better to just set back for four years and let the voters short attention span give them a better chance later.
  • CitizenX · 1 year ago
    Yep, you got that right. IF he did manage to get elected, then he could retire for health reasons and position the VP to finish his term the go for 2 more.

    gramps mcsame is a disposable candidate, pure and simple.

    Also, his VP pick it the ultimate example of pandering. Pandering taken to the highest level picking a soccer mom to pander to the women vote.
  • dacnova · 1 year ago
    I thought the far right Evangelicals didn't like Catholics... especially moms who work instead of staying home to raise the kids. LCR is already praising the choice.
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    True--but they'll hold their noses, because they know President Palin will stack the Court with foetus lovers who will overturn Roe v. Wade. The whole abortion debate has, in one fell swoop, moved from the back burner to the front for this election.
  • vkobaya · 1 year ago
    Do you think she even knows what the Supreme Court is. I can see it now, 3 new Inuit Justices who will vote for polar bears and walruses. <g><g><g> That is, of course, if she doesn't place 2 polar bears and a walrus on the Supreme Court.
  • kirkaracha · 1 year ago
    She wouldn't do that. She hates polar bears.
  • firebrand · 1 year ago
    Tired of Science? Don't worry.... the McCainiacs will save you! Check this out:

    Little Ms. Palin =Creationist

    http://scienceblogs.com/afarensis/2006/10/27/in...
  • bushisaposer · 1 year ago
    She's got a 100% approval rating from the La Leche league. She could be the first lactating president!
  • nicho · 1 year ago
    Well, she'll certainly be able to keep us abreast of developments on that front.
  • vkobaya · 1 year ago
    If she makes an ad while nursing her baby, I can see where the Republicans are going to pick up lots and lots of male votes for the McCain-Palin ticket.
  • lies · 1 year ago
    Does this mean 30 Rock is cancelled?
  • LisaLV711 · 1 year ago
    Dude threw a Hail Mary pass on the first play of the Super Bowl.
  • kirkaracha · 1 year ago
    The Broncos did that in Super Bowl XXII. The Redskins won, 42-10.
    Redskins quarterback Doug Williams was named the Super Bowl MVP, completing 18 of 29 passes for a Super Bowl record 340 yards and four touchdowns, with one interception. Williams became the first player in Super Bowl history to throw 4 touchdowns in a single quarter, and throw four in a half. Williams was also the first African-American quarterback to reach the Super Bowl, and to date is the only African-American quarterback to win one.
  • DastiusKrazitauc · 1 year ago
    Can someone explain to me why "hockey mom" is good and "soccer mom" is bad?