AMERICAblog: McCain's lawyers are reportedly vetting Palin now, 4 days after he picked her
HereinDC
· 1 year ago
Shoot, then ask questions later.
Sounds like the new law in Florida.
moreleesafer
· 1 year ago
"Shoot, then ask questions later."
I thought that is what Cheney does......and then the victim apoligizes.
ha!
Cjeffery
· 1 year ago
Come on you have to be kidding me the old man is reckless hot head and does not have the temperment to lead the country.
fostert
· 1 year ago
People tend to naturally accept any candidate with a military background. But maybe we should consider what background they actually have. Generals are good because they have led large forces and are usually cautious and intelligent people. Bomber pilots, on the other hand, tend to be reckless and will do anything to win. Is that really the mentality that we want in a president?
donotmakemecomedownthere
· 1 year ago
And some of them are not even good pilots.
"Four More Plane Crashes!"
grandma
· 1 year ago
McCain: Reckless and unsound judgment.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
what does all this remind you of?
fly by the seat of your pants bushco? facts be damned. reality be damned. we'll do what we want.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Hey, AQ2, I got it right here; off this blog:
Palin says 17-year-old daughter is gay
By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 1 minute ago
ST. PAUL, Minn. - John McCain's running mate Sarah Palin said Monday that her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is gay, an announcement campaign aides said was aimed at rebutting Internet rumors that Palin's youngest son, born in April, was actually her daughter's.
A statement released by the campaign said that Bristol Palin will come out of the closet and marry her lesbian lover, like Dick Cheney's lesbian daughter has done. Bristol Palin's lesbian baby is due later.
"Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. We're proud of Bristol's decision to marry the person she loves and even prouder to become grandparents," Sarah and Todd Palin said in the brief statement.
The disclosure of the Palin's sexuality came on the opening day of the Republican National Convention, scaled back because of Hurricane Gustav, and three days after McCain named Palin as his running mate. Other news was likely to overshadow the disclosure.
"Bristol and the young woman she will marry are going to realize very quickly the challenges of getting married as a same-sex couple, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family," they added. The lesbian lover was identified in the statement as "Pat," but the campaign said it was not disclosing her last name or age.
Internet bloggers have been suggesting that Bristol Palin had recently given birth to a child. Palin spokesman Bill McAllister emphatically denied those rumors, and McCain adviser Mark Salter said the campaign announced the daughter's homosexuality to rebut them.
"Senator McCain's view is this is a private family matter. As parents, (the Palins) love their daughter unconditionally and are going to support their daughter," said McCain spokesman Steve Schmidt.
"Life happens," he said.
"An American family," added Salter.
The advisers said Palin told them about her daughter's sexuality during lengthy discussions about her background. At several points during the discussions, McCain's team warned Palin that the scrutiny into her private life would be intense and that there was nothing she could do to prepare for it.
Prominent religious conservatives, many of whom have been lukewarm toward McCain's candidacy, predicted that Palin's daughter's homosexuality would not diminish conservative Christian enthusiasm over the vice presidential hopeful.
"I think it's a very private matter," said Roberta Combs, president of the Christian Coalition of America. "It's a matter that should stay in the family and they have to work through it together. My prayers go out to them."
Added Combs: "We're excited about the governor and think she's going to do well."
Mathew Staver, dean of Liberty University School of Law, said: "We're all sinners."
Staver also criticized anyone who would seek to make it a negative campaign issue: "It's absolutely shameful to put her child in the spotlight. She's not running for office. When someone can't face issues, they try to tear down a family."
Cjeffery
· 1 year ago
Your quqotes are a little off and eveyr report I have seen has the father names has levi please link to the storie.
houstonray
· 1 year ago
This was a "what if" story that was posted earlier by someone trying to show the point what would have the reaction been if it had been about a lesbian daughter and not just an unwed teen story.
shrrrr
· 1 year ago
busboy delivers. As always.
houstonray
· 1 year ago
Original comment to your referenced article was preceded by this:
"percol8r 3 hours ago
What if? --
If anyone had any lingering doubt the conservative movement is completely hypocritical -- just imagine if conservatives would use the same reasoning they're coming up with today for any of their other "bedrock" issues. It wouldn't happen -- because their "principles" only apply as long as they don't have to live them nor have to defend them when one of their own turns out to be -- um -- human.
To wit: "
Then the article was placed in which the lesbian theme was added. NOT a real story. As the saying goes, nothing to see here, move along. :-)
p.s. Poster percol8tr had a great point BTW...
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
busboy's losing it.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
I saw it here first; but found out later that it didn't originate from here. But, my comment has been edited out; so continue on; articulate, but, uninformed...
donotmakemecomedownthere
· 1 year ago
When the truth is no longer an option... send in the lawyers!
O/T: Just caught some CNN coverage of Laura and Cindy acting motherly at their convention. For some reason, Cindy's is dressed as The Golden Acid Queen. They're all nuts, and eternally stuck in 1981.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Yeah...was surprised at the way Cindy was dressed too....and hair hanging in her eyes.
Ahh well....a 50 something barbie doll.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
That highly reflective white and yellow fabric raised the camera levels and lowered the contrast...This along with the bright video background and camera de-enhancement allowed digital Sin-dy to appear less wrinkled while her chicken neck was carefully sheathed in high collar camo... I'm torn over who had the better giant telescreen...Max Headroom, the Democrats or the Republicans? The Dem screen seemed too busy while the Rethug screen too plain...This is the kinda trivial subject some could really get their blunt teeth into.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
I didn't get that dress at all. Glad you gave it a name.
grandma
· 1 year ago
And lawyers for Palin:
JUNEAU, Alaska -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the GOP vice presidential candidate, has hired a private practice attorney to defend her and members of her staff in the investigation into the firing of her public safety commissioner.
As it turns out, she hired the attorney two weeks ago, but just revealed it today. Ah, what a day for a holiday news dump!
Yeah, they released Todd's 1980s-era DWI arrest today also.
DavidinPS
· 1 year ago
On CNN gambling addict/gasbag Bill Bennett was solemnly going on about how the media needs to drop the whole matter because it is a private personal family matter. This from the fucking Republican party Christo-fascists who do NOTHING but try to control the private personal lives of others.
Where was there "concern" over a private family matter with the Cliintons?
grandma
· 1 year ago
McCain apparently thought it was his business to make an appalling and disgusting joke about Clinton's daughter Chelsea.
Just more unsound judgment from McCain.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
Exactly...As I commented in JA post on covering the preggie daughter: So once again, as folks back away from the mystery of the Palin babies, we lowly citizens must shoulder the blame for discussing the complete hypocrisy of yet another fundie winger forced to taste their own ideological medicine... Try telling an HIV survivor to react with moderation when the very jingoists who advocated isolation camps in the 80s and abstinence today are left holding the morality bag. The false left or right, black or white orientation leaves game players speechless when highly nuanced middle ground conundrums raise their swollen bellies...
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
I was surprised to see that gutless wonder Blitzer take Bennett on.
Lolis
· 1 year ago
or Edwards, who wasn't even running for anything?
grandma
· 1 year ago
01 Sep 2008 06:16 pm
From an Eagle Forum Candidate Questionnaire:
Q: Are you offended by the phrase "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?
PALIN: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.
I think I read somewhere that Colberg the AG that Palin appointed was an intern for Ted Stevens. I have to find the story.
McCain doesn't know anything about the internet but what about his staff. I thought she was McCain's soul-mate
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
Mrs. Greenspan is a day late and a dollar short. The evil liberal bloggers were on to this yesterday. We knew: the motel rooms in Wasilla are now filled with "vetters."
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
I still maintain that Palin was forced on him at the 11th hour by Rove's Boys--she was NOT his pick. The Maverick capitulated to Rick Davis and his henchmen.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Chelsea Clinton was 18 yrs old when McCain made his crude joke about her.
But according to Bill Bennett ,on CNN,families are off limits.
Pot- Kettle
lynn47
· 1 year ago
I wonder if Fox News will start a clock to see how long she stays on the ticket...
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
I think she will be Harriet Miersed.
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
Post dinner. My husband disagrees. Thinks the Religious Right will not allow that to happen.
cardbbfan
· 1 year ago
This doesn't surprise me. I just finished reading the multi-page story on McCain in Newsweek on-line and it is very clear that McCain gets off on doing things to get attention and for shock value. Palin is clearly for that purpose and nothing else. Surely he must be getting pressure from even Republicans for such a ridiculous choice.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Another GOP bloviator on CNN saying families are off-limits.
Has McCain ever apologized for his crude joke about 18 yr old Chelsea Clinton.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Too late.
* This so-called reformer directed Ted Stevens' 527.
* This so-called reformer received millions in earmarks.
* She's under investigation for Trooper Gate and is now lawyered up.
* She was involved in another firing scandal when she was mayor, for which she was almost recalled.
* She bankrupted that little town she was mayor of.
* She and her husband once belonged to a political party whose goal is to make Alaska secede from the union.
* She claimed to be against the Bridge to Nowhere, when tapes of her speaking to the people of that island clearly record her supporting the bridge.
And, of course, that's not including all the personal stuff I'm not going into.
grandma
· 1 year ago
And she lowered taxes ..........but raised the sales tax.
dad
· 1 year ago
its indicative of a group that goes to war without cause and without a plan.
its not surprising of folks who support torture when it yields only useless information.
it should be expected of a party that supports tax cuts for the rich that do nothing for the economy and indcrease the deficit.
this is mccain.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Too many nutsos think 'abortion' is the only issue.
dad
· 1 year ago
which is his base. it is mccain.
Chris From Maine
· 1 year ago
Is McCain in charge?
Is that supposed to be a trick question?
Chris From Maine
· 1 year ago
how long before she is called "McCain's embattled VP pick Sarah Palin....."
I dont think McCain can go against his masters and dump her, which is good because she will bring him down.
You know.. now that I think about it, maybe this is the conservatives way of destroying McCain whom they hate.. they tie this albatross to his neck and he crashes and burns...
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
Mr Magoo is here...
...and some people are going to vote for him.
moreleesafer
· 1 year ago
the age of consent in Alaska is 16. how old was miss Bristol when she became pregnant?
Yes, great hidden camera video for all the morning shows tomorrow.
Despite themselves, the GOP continually prove that Darwin was right.
grandma
· 1 year ago
CBS Poll: Poll: Obama/Biden Take Eight-Point Lead Sept 1 '08
(CBS) Democratic nominee Barack Obama's lead over Republican John McCain has grown after the Democratic convention, which 71 percent of Americans say they watched. Obama and his running mate Joe Biden now lead McCain and Sarah Palin 48 percent to 40 percent, according to the latest CBS News poll.
This is the first CBS News poll to include the vice presidential candidates in the horserace question.
BTW (I just love this), someone on Wonkette said that the baby was going to be named Earmark.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
George Lakoff provides warning about how Dems may treat Palin. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/george-lakoff/the... He also explains how we should react in helpful ways. Our comments should be about how Palin and McCain are extremists. We should stay away from criticizing Palin based on the stories we discover about her life. Very interesting column.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
Is it criticism for people to discuss the stark differences in the reality of the Palin family condition as contrasted with Governor Palin's fundamentalist political views? For leaders who often choose to sit back as the spit and venom fly, red meat arguments over actual facts trump fighting over the numbers of angels dancing on the heads of various fundie-selected pins... The false left and right stuff falls flat when truth can be advocated and proved no matter where the chips fall. Democrats not only occupy the high ground but also the sword's point. Mr. McCain seems stuck in a loser's panicked react mode.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
I mispoke. I tried to be too brief. I should have said Lakoff thinks our leaders should stay away from criticizing Palin and McCain in ways that will be seen as criticism of their images as War Hero POW and something like Annie Oakley. He thinks the facts won't help us much when it comes to Palin's stories about her current situation. However, voters understand that they don't like Rethug extremism and Dems should stick to that line and hit them with that again and again. Lakoff thinks Obama/Biden are doing fine in that regard.
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
Off topic, but where's Johnny?
moreleesafer
· 1 year ago
what is just crackingme up today is how even FOX "News" can't even cover the GOP Convention because of the hurricane coverage! hahaha the only channel that had something on was C-Span.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
McCain's veep "surge" didn't go so well.
canuck55
· 1 year ago
My prediction, Palin will withdraw due to a downturn in the health of her infant child coinciding with further details breaking about troopergate, etc.
Joneses
· 1 year ago
Lieberman next as veep. The religious nut cases will be very upset. He can't lose them.
ydthin
· 1 year ago
so is this saying he's going to marry her and keep the baby?
abort, abort...
twitches
· 1 year ago
What I want to know is: how has Bristol been allowed to stay out of school for months by reportedly having mono? Where I teach, you need a legitimate doctor's excuse to be taken out of school for any extended period of time. So, who wrote the note that said she had mono and was allowed to stay home?
And why does being pregnant mean you can't go to school anyway? Down here in Texas the pregnant gals go to school just like all the others - seeing as they will most likely need the diploma now more than ever. Of course, I guess Palin thinks little Bristol won't need any more edu-ma-ca-tion now that she's getting hitched and making babies.
Makes my blood boil that anyone would try to hide such an obvious failure of the abstinence-only no-sex-before-marriage movement and continue to promote it in on a national scale. What a joke.
All Comments
Sounds like the new law in Florida.
I thought that is what Cheney does......and then the victim apoligizes.
ha!
"Four More Plane Crashes!"
fly by the seat of your pants bushco?
facts be damned. reality be damned. we'll do what we want.
Palin says 17-year-old daughter is gay
By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 1 minute ago
ST. PAUL, Minn. - John McCain's running mate Sarah Palin said Monday that her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is gay, an announcement campaign aides said was aimed at rebutting Internet rumors that Palin's youngest son, born in April, was actually her daughter's.
A statement released by the campaign said that Bristol Palin will come out of the closet and marry her lesbian lover, like Dick Cheney's lesbian daughter has done. Bristol Palin's lesbian baby is due later.
"Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. We're proud of Bristol's decision to marry the person she loves and even prouder to become grandparents," Sarah and Todd Palin said in the brief statement.
The disclosure of the Palin's sexuality came on the opening day of the Republican National Convention, scaled back because of Hurricane Gustav, and three days after McCain named Palin as his running mate. Other news was likely to overshadow the disclosure.
"Bristol and the young woman she will marry are going to realize very quickly the challenges of getting married as a same-sex couple, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family," they added. The lesbian lover was identified in the statement as "Pat," but the campaign said it was not disclosing her last name or age.
Internet bloggers have been suggesting that Bristol Palin had recently given birth to a child. Palin spokesman Bill McAllister emphatically denied those rumors, and McCain adviser Mark Salter said the campaign announced the daughter's homosexuality to rebut them.
"Senator McCain's view is this is a private family matter. As parents, (the Palins) love their daughter unconditionally and are going to support their daughter," said McCain spokesman Steve Schmidt.
"Life happens," he said.
"An American family," added Salter.
The advisers said Palin told them about her daughter's sexuality during lengthy discussions about her background. At several points during the discussions, McCain's team warned Palin that the scrutiny into her private life would be intense and that there was nothing she could do to prepare for it.
Prominent religious conservatives, many of whom have been lukewarm toward McCain's candidacy, predicted that Palin's daughter's homosexuality would not diminish conservative Christian enthusiasm over the vice presidential hopeful.
"I think it's a very private matter," said Roberta Combs, president of the Christian Coalition of America. "It's a matter that should stay in the family and they have to work through it together. My prayers go out to them."
Added Combs: "We're excited about the governor and think she's going to do well."
Mathew Staver, dean of Liberty University School of Law, said: "We're all sinners."
Staver also criticized anyone who would seek to make it a negative campaign issue: "It's absolutely shameful to put her child in the spotlight. She's not running for office. When someone can't face issues, they try to tear down a family."
"percol8r 3 hours ago
What if? --
If anyone had any lingering doubt the conservative movement is completely hypocritical -- just imagine if conservatives would use the same reasoning they're coming up with today for any of their other "bedrock" issues. It wouldn't happen -- because their "principles" only apply as long as they don't have to live them nor have to defend them when one of their own turns out to be -- um -- human.
To wit: "
Then the article was placed in which the lesbian theme was added. NOT a real story. As the saying goes, nothing to see here, move along. :-)
p.s. Poster percol8tr had a great point BTW...
O/T: Just caught some CNN coverage of Laura and Cindy acting motherly at their convention. For some reason, Cindy's is dressed as The Golden Acid Queen. They're all nuts, and eternally stuck in 1981.
Ahh well....a 50 something barbie doll.
I'm torn over who had the better giant telescreen...Max Headroom, the Democrats or the Republicans?
The Dem screen seemed too busy while the Rethug screen too plain...This is the kinda trivial subject some could really get their blunt teeth into.
JUNEAU, Alaska -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the GOP vice presidential candidate, has hired a private practice attorney to defend her and members of her staff in the investigation into the firing of her public safety commissioner.
As it turns out, she hired the attorney two weeks ago, but just revealed it today. Ah, what a day for a holiday news dump!
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/1/172736/6...
McCain is INCOMPETENT.......
Where was there "concern" over a private family matter with the Cliintons?
Clinton's daughter Chelsea.
Just more unsound judgment from McCain.
So once again, as folks back away from the mystery of the Palin babies, we lowly citizens must shoulder the blame for discussing the complete hypocrisy of yet another fundie winger forced to taste their own ideological medicine...
Try telling an HIV survivor to react with moderation when the very jingoists who advocated isolation camps in the 80s and abstinence today are left holding the morality bag.
The false left or right, black or white orientation leaves game players speechless when highly nuanced middle ground conundrums raise their swollen bellies...
From an Eagle Forum Candidate Questionnaire:
Q: Are you offended by the phrase "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?
PALIN: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.
The phrase was added in 1954.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...
Palin...the gift that keeps on giving!!!
McCain doesn't know anything about the internet but what about his staff.
I thought she was McCain's soul-mate
But according to Bill Bennett ,on CNN,families are off limits.
Pot- Kettle
Has McCain ever apologized for his crude joke about 18 yr old Chelsea Clinton.
* This so-called reformer directed Ted Stevens' 527.
* This so-called reformer received millions in earmarks.
* She's under investigation for Trooper Gate and is now lawyered up.
* She was involved in another firing scandal when she was mayor, for which she was almost recalled.
* She bankrupted that little town she was mayor of.
* She and her husband once belonged to a political party whose goal is to make Alaska secede from the union.
* She claimed to be against the Bridge to Nowhere, when tapes of her speaking to the people of that island clearly record her supporting the bridge.
And, of course, that's not including all the personal stuff I'm not going into.
its not surprising of folks who support torture when it yields only useless information.
it should be expected of a party that supports tax cuts for the rich that do nothing for the economy and indcrease the deficit.
this is mccain.
Is that supposed to be a trick question?
I dont think McCain can go against his masters and dump her, which is good because she will bring him down.
You know.. now that I think about it, maybe this is the conservatives way of destroying McCain whom they hate.. they tie this albatross to his neck and he crashes and burns...
...and some people are going to vote for him.
oh yes! a nice comfortable lead............
Republicans partying in St. Paul.....even one of the bands that were hired is called "Hooker and Blow"
It was a great report...I'm sure it's be up on web site soon.
"There was no evidence of any actual prostitutes or cocaine."
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Conventions/s...
Despite themselves, the GOP continually prove that Darwin was right.
Poll: Obama/Biden Take Eight-Point Lead
Sept 1 '08
(CBS) Democratic nominee Barack Obama's lead over Republican John McCain has grown after the Democratic convention, which 71 percent of Americans say they watched. Obama and his running mate Joe Biden now lead McCain and Sarah Palin 48 percent to 40 percent, according to the latest CBS News poll.
This is the first CBS News poll to include the vice presidential candidates in the horserace question.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/01/opini...
You can look into that deep dark abyss as much as you like, you'll never find a heart in there!
McCain + Palin = Shotgun Ticket
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/george-lakoff/the...
He also explains how we should react in helpful ways. Our comments should be about how Palin and McCain are extremists. We should stay away from criticizing Palin based on the stories we discover about her life.
Very interesting column.
For leaders who often choose to sit back as the spit and venom fly, red meat arguments over actual facts trump fighting over the numbers of angels dancing on the heads of various fundie-selected pins...
The false left and right stuff falls flat when truth can be advocated and proved no matter where the chips fall.
Democrats not only occupy the high ground but also the sword's point. Mr. McCain seems stuck in a loser's panicked react mode.
the only channel that had something on was C-Span.
abort, abort...
And why does being pregnant mean you can't go to school anyway? Down here in Texas the pregnant gals go to school just like all the others - seeing as they will most likely need the diploma now more than ever. Of course, I guess Palin thinks little Bristol won't need any more edu-ma-ca-tion now that she's getting hitched and making babies.
Makes my blood boil that anyone would try to hide such an obvious failure of the abstinence-only no-sex-before-marriage movement and continue to promote it in on a national scale. What a joke.