AMERICAblog: Mitt wants us all to know that Palin is an accomplished debater
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
This is good for the Dems. This means Biden won't have to dummy-down his responses. The right has been wining and trying to change the debate format for a reason! Their candidate is weak: hands down.
ZennButtKicker (tlhwraith)
· 1 year ago
Fine.
My only piece of advice to Biden, show no mercy. If they want to to say she's a good debater, then I say Biden should take the same tack as Obama did, be respectful, courteous, but be assertive and don't back down. That might be tough for Biden, who seems to be a bit of a hot-head, but if he pulls it off, dig a hole for McCain and crew because it's over.
JMOHR
· 1 year ago
I am sick and tire of the God Damned Republiscum. I am tired as we try to keep the debate civil only to be treated without respect. I am tired when we attempt to discuss the issue only to be slimed. I am tired when we use facts and they use lies. It is time for the Democrats to stand up and to destroy the enemy. When we take control of the government, treat the scum they way they have treated us. Make it clear that we will destroy them. We will hold them to public ridicule. We will use the law to persecute them until we see their leaders slowly twisting in the wind, dead a the en of a rope.
lucky hussein
· 1 year ago
Absolutely agree. The lies and liars must be exposed and ridiculed publicly. All the time. It's the only way back from here...
bluestockton
· 1 year ago
I saw Mitt on the Today Show. Every time he had to say something nice about Sarah, he looked as if he had hemorrhoids.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
nah... just the magic underware chafing a bit.
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
She is a good cheerleader.
Good luck, Sweetie.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
now THAT would be a great SNL skit... do the VP debate, have Fey come out as Palin... late... and wearing a cheerleader outfit.
scytherius
· 1 year ago
By all means dimwits, let everyone think she is a great debater.
gwpriester
· 1 year ago
How the hell can she win anything unless the questions are all centered on preparation of moose meat, hunting wolves from a helicopter, or the history of the earth. She is so not prepared to be a vice president. Cheerleader, yes. Soccer mom, conditional--your daughter does not get knocked up if you are a good soccer mom.
If I were a conservative republican, I would be so angry at the McCain campaign for this colossal pandering and lack of judgment.
lucky hussein
· 1 year ago
Mittens has few smarts and no political credibility. I just don't understand how people like this can run companies like Bain capital...
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
delegation of responsibility...
execs in the US really don't actually run the company... they just do pressers and collect money.
sorta like repugnicans running for POTUS... "just read the script John, don't think!"
lucky hussein
· 1 year ago
ahh, right ;) the 'figurehead' like ummm... president...umm....oh yeah... bush. - life is different for the 'capitalist class' is it not? please...
hence, only two weeks ago... "the fundamentals of the economy are strong"
yeah, if your wife is worth 100 million or so.
DAB
· 1 year ago
Joe Biden just has to show he knows the issues inside and out AND isn't out of step with Obama's plans. I expect for his studying up he's been focusing on those areas where, during the primary (or during his interview with Couric) he and Obama were out of step. There aren't that many, or many that are substantive, so it's not that tough a job.
She probably does debate well on things she knows something about -- like, say, Alaska. But she's already shown that on the larger national questions, she's clueless. Basically, she's incurious (a true Bush disciple on that regard), so she's only bothered to learn about the things that will get her elected to the next rung of her career. Since she was thrown into the VP nominee slot so suddenly, I'm sure her head is exploding with details and policies. Given how McCain has flip-flopped so much over the past 8 eight years, I can't imagine that's easy for her to do. I can't imagine that's even all that easy for his own policy advisers at this point. Or for McCain himself.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
I'd love for them to throw out a question to her on Superfund sites... and have her ramble on about Wall St. and the economy for a while.
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Fireblazes(CheetohsandCatfood)
· 1 year ago
I can here her asking, Katie, I'd like to buy a vowel.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
LOL!!!
cmpnwtr
· 1 year ago
Palin has lived all her life in the Mat-Su valley. She knows the populist slogans and issues in Alaska, a very low information electorate. She doesn't know jack about national or international issues.
the text along with this muzak is hilarious toward the end... fast forward so you don't have to listen to it though.
donotmakemecomedownthere
· 1 year ago
I'm waiting for one of them to slip up and call her "a master debater."
The fundies would go nuts. More nuts.
Fireblazes(CheetohsandCatfood)
· 1 year ago
Not to mention all the procrastibation that's been going on.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Down here we call "master baiters" "fishin magicians..."
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
watching them baiting the hook makes you queasy... in a different sort of way.
Fireblazes(CheetohsandCatfood)
· 1 year ago
Sarah has reason to be proud. She has worked all the way up from "worm girl".
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
She's going to come out with both barrels.
Her arguments will be facile and occasionally illogical, but she'll be able to get away with that in a pseudo-debate format.
Biden will have to take the shots and direct all his fire toward McCain.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
that's what I'd worry about... both barrels.
in chimpy's case, the lump in the back of his jacket was a wire... in palin's?
maybe a bowie knife?
houstonray
· 1 year ago
With that huge beehive of upswept hair, she could have a wire, a bowie knife, the missing WMD's AND Jimmy Hoffa...
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Someone in the Biden camp leaked the other day that The strategy was for Biden to just ignore her. Maybe that's a red herring. Maybe he'll pull the "McCain" line and keep saying: "What Sarah doesn't understand is...."
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
"What Sarah doesn't understand is...." ---
"Just about everything outside of Alaska."
Aanya
· 1 year ago
I guess Mittens is still wanting Palin's job. When McCain is forced to dump her, mittens will just slide right in!
Joe Biden doesn't deserve the bad rap he gets. He's a scholar and a gentleman, and he'll shine thursday night.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
something about that statement, "mittens will just slide right in", is just SO wrong.
not the sentiment... the visual.
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
I want to hear the debate but I think I am going to have to fortify myself with something stronger than soda. I don't know how long I will be able to listen to someone with that, for lack of a better description, hillbilly accent. The accent plus the voice inflection are probably going to drive me crazy.
I am sure Tina Fey is "gonna" have a field day after this debate.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Biden has a hillbilly accent? I thought he was from Delaware, home of the " corporate tax loophole"...
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
I thought that was DC?
Busboy
· 1 year ago
No, that's the home of the "corporate asshole"....
Zorba
· 1 year ago
She's from Idaho, and has, basically, an "Inland North" dialect (think "Minnesotan") shading a little bit into Pacific Northwest. "Hillbilly" is generally used to refer to either Southern Appalachian or Ozark dialects. But I agree, she's not easy to listen to, although for me, it's because of the content (which is vacuous), and not so much her accent. ;-)
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
When she is familiar with the facts, I think she is probably good at arguing and trying to please an audience. I doubt she is a good debater which requires a thorough understanding of both sides of an issue and the ability to plan at least two moves in advance and keep several alternate plans in mind. But it won't be a real debate anyway.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
unless her interview with Couric was to throw people off... she ISN'T familiar with ANY facts.
as of two days ago anyway. she's gonna have one hell of a headache after the "Clockwork Orange" programming session takes place in preparation for Thursday.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Will she cry like Clinton and Bush?
Fireblazes(CheetohsandCatfood)
· 1 year ago
Daily Kos BREAKING: Alaskan Troopergate Witness Flips Under Oath,
the mcsame campaign is filing ALL sorts of lawsuits... just to drag this out past November 3rd.
MnDem
· 1 year ago
Having served with John McCain in the Senate for so many years, Joe Biden probably knows McCain's positions on issues better than Sarah Palin. For every canned response that Palin gives on the "McCain-Palin" platform, Biden will be able to point out that McCain held a different position at some point in the past.
Biden should try to keep his responses clear and concise, and point out McCain's new found "epiphanies" whenever he can.
KISSman
· 1 year ago
I don't mind them floating the idea that she's an accomplished debater. The worst thing for us right now is that the expectations are so low that if she can formulate a sentence that makes sense, she'll exceed expectations.
I'm pretty worried about this debate. Since she has looked so dopey in all of her TV interviews, the media will be wowed if she is able to regurgetate all of the prepared answers that her handlers have installed into her. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that she's going to be able to do that especially since these candidates can't even interact.
Notice how any news program that discusses this upcoming VP debate solely focuses the conversation on Sarah Palin. The only time they talk about Joe Biden is when they speculate his gaffe potential or him potentially coming across as sexist in some way.
This debate is all about Palin and if she comes prepared, all the discussion will be all about how wonderful she is. Even if Biden wins, it'll all still be about how good or bad Palin did for the next several news cycles.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
still... wouldn't it be wonderful if she got flustered and referred to Biden as "Mr. Doodyhead"?
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
The format favors her. It's more like a two person Q & A. There won't be much "clash" as a result.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
do you think she knows now 'what a VP does'?
Happy_Housewife
· 1 year ago
I very much agree that we underestimate her at our own peril: They've set this debate up on their own terms, to make her appear intelligent and capable of leading. Even a mediocre performance will be spun as proof of her ability to lead.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I really do think they will have some sort of electronic device on her, feeding her answers. Like they did with Bush.
kevinbgoode
· 1 year ago
Well, we all know what an expert debater Mittens is....after all, his stellar performance in primary debates landed him the Republican nomination - oops. . .I guess it didn't quite happen that way, did it?
All Comments
My only piece of advice to Biden, show no mercy. If they want to to say she's a good debater, then I say Biden should take the same tack as Obama did, be respectful, courteous, but be assertive and don't back down. That might be tough for Biden, who seems to be a bit of a hot-head, but if he pulls it off, dig a hole for McCain and crew because it's over.
Good luck, Sweetie.
If I were a conservative republican, I would be so angry at the McCain campaign for this colossal pandering and lack of judgment.
execs in the US really don't actually run the company... they just do pressers and collect money.
sorta like repugnicans running for POTUS... "just read the script John, don't think!"
like ummm... president...umm....oh yeah... bush.
- life is different for the 'capitalist class' is it not? please...
reminds me of one of my fav sites: http://www.theyrule.net/2004/tr2.php
bring on the 'class wars'...
yeah, if your wife is worth 100 million or so.
She probably does debate well on things she knows something about -- like, say, Alaska. But she's already shown that on the larger national questions, she's clueless. Basically, she's incurious (a true Bush disciple on that regard), so she's only bothered to learn about the things that will get her elected to the next rung of her career. Since she was thrown into the VP nominee slot so suddenly, I'm sure her head is exploding with details and policies. Given how McCain has flip-flopped so much over the past 8 eight years, I can't imagine that's easy for her to do. I can't imagine that's even all that easy for his own policy advisers at this point. Or for McCain himself.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNVuuhurbZA
the text along with this muzak is hilarious toward the end... fast forward so you don't have to listen to it though.
The fundies would go nuts. More nuts.
Her arguments will be facile and occasionally illogical, but she'll be able to get away with that in a pseudo-debate format.
Biden will have to take the shots and direct all his fire toward McCain.
in chimpy's case, the lump in the back of his jacket was a wire... in palin's?
maybe a bowie knife?
---
"Just about everything outside of Alaska."
Joe Biden doesn't deserve the bad rap he gets. He's a scholar and a gentleman, and he'll shine thursday night.
not the sentiment... the visual.
I am sure Tina Fey is "gonna" have a field day after this debate.
But it won't be a real debate anyway.
as of two days ago anyway. she's gonna have one hell of a headache after the "Clockwork Orange" programming session takes place in preparation for Thursday.
BREAKING: Alaskan Troopergate Witness Flips Under Oath,
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/30/114...
the mcsame campaign is filing ALL sorts of lawsuits... just to drag this out past November 3rd.
Biden should try to keep his responses clear and concise, and point out McCain's new found "epiphanies" whenever he can.
I'm pretty worried about this debate. Since she has looked so dopey in all of her TV interviews, the media will be wowed if she is able to regurgetate all of the prepared answers that her handlers have installed into her. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that she's going to be able to do that especially since these candidates can't even interact.
Notice how any news program that discusses this upcoming VP debate solely focuses the conversation on Sarah Palin. The only time they talk about Joe Biden is when they speculate his gaffe potential or him potentially coming across as sexist in some way.
This debate is all about Palin and if she comes prepared, all the discussion will be all about how wonderful she is. Even if Biden wins, it'll all still be about how good or bad Palin did for the next several news cycles.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I really do think they will have some sort of electronic device on her, feeding her answers. Like they did with Bush.