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What a typical wingnut Talibangelical idea! She thinks she determines who goes where after death. Wonder what Talibangelical church she goes to?
This sort of thing is not at all crazy, but is instead incredibly logical, if you start from the premise that there are a heaven and hell and good people go to the former and bad people to the latter. Mothers want the best for their children. Heaven is the best. It all follows pretty clearly. So, why won't people say the obvious? The problem is religion.
The fact you are trying to gloss over is, pulling a trigger is instantanous (so you don't have time to change your mind...) relative to other methods easier, can be done at larger distances, and is "the accepted" method. lots of tradition here.
People that have been felons in most states can't vote after that. But they can own guns. We live in the society we deserve.
I can't get over how amazing YouTube is.
The more you hear and see things like this...the more it makes bible thumpers look like loons.
OMG....My son searched for them since he went with a girl very briefly last year that wanted to "fix him". She had attended "jesus camp" and wanted my son to go.
My son has been raised by Heathen athiests so he has been able to form his own opinions and think for himself.
He has NO interest in organized religion of any kind...neither does my Heathen actor daughter.
Pats self on back... ;D ;D
"I'm sorry, son, I thought I was sending you to heaven and me to hell."
"Next... Okay, well, well, well, Marie, YOU really learned a lot in this reincarnation! Lets see... now what to do here... What are we gonna be this time around?"
Marie, "Doh!"
LOL!
I'm sincerely sorry. I was trying to be funny, but "reincarnation vs. Christianity humor" wasn't appropriate in this context at all. It WAS tasteless, and I apologize again.
I just read about a 77 yr old Indiana woman who was killed trying to break up a sword fight (!) between her 39 yr old son and 69 yr old brother in law.
Frankly, I would have let them finish each other off and stayed out of it.
prejudice and stereotyping is moronic.
No, it actually says in the Christian Bible in the Old Testament that a parent can kill their child for even sassing them back. Is this what a good Christian parent wants to teach their child? Obama had nothing to do with that and you know it. Not allowing people to kill each other in a civilized society has been a part of our laws since its founding. Why do you associate killing with socialism and Obama? That's illogical. Perhaps you should actually look up the definition of socialism before you bear false witnesses, Sister Nancy Beth. If this were a theocracy, I'm sure we would see more killings in the name of Christ. All one has to do is look to Iraq or Iran to see how gays are treated and how women are treated as well if they don't listen to their "masters." e.g. husbands. You can have organized religion, it brings nothing but unhappiness and misery.
Take a couple deep breaths.
I will be in my wee corner with my dunce hat on for awhile. Sorry.
I can't help but feel that society let this woman down. For 50 years the Right has been shouting about the need to vilify and humiliate the weak.
We reap what we sew. We can and have to do better.
Freedom of Religion? Tell that to the kid if he lives.
Think about it. She just sacrificed her son's life here on Earth because she believed (correctly, according to what conservative Christians teach) that it's far better to assure her son of eternal life in Heaven than to risk him going to Hell and suffering unending and unimaginable torture in the Lake of Fire.
This is the pernicious truth about the doctrine of Hell. It cheapens your kids' lives (a mere four score years or so, max) to the point of worthlessness since it's not worth gambling the short lives of your children on Earth given the truly horrific consequences if your kids grow up and reject Christ and spend the next umpteen trillion years in abject anguish.
Not to bash the son, who was brutally murdered, but he also should had known to keep his mother very far away from any loaded firearm...
Very sad.
It kind of defeats the silly argument that everyone else with a gun would had prevented this tragedy.
The argument after every Columbine type event is "well if other people had been carrying guns too, they could have stopped the evildoer!"
... Well, here we are.. at a shooting range.. basically eyeball deep in guns and guess what? 2 people dead, and NOBODY COULD DO A FUCKING THING.
In REALITY, take a school shooting even. Every teacher armed and even trained. Except, someone is shooting folk, and it is total chaos...yeah, what you want in that instance is EVEN MORE GUN TOTING FOLK walking around, turning corners scared out of their wits...two teacher see each other from a distance and fire, police pull up on the scene and only know someone is shooting, here come another teacher...blam..
That's just BRILLIANT. Police would love that scenario too I bet if some gun nut asked them "no you dipwad, we DON'T want civilians out there playing "Die Hard" and making our jobs a million times harder"...
Just a note.
she was a fucking psycho.
Let God have pity on her - she murdered a person who had their entire life ahead of them, in the back of the head, not knowing it was coming. The kid never had a chance.
This is 1st degree murder, psycho or nuts or whatever.
It seems like some bizarre combination of being both extremely anti-social and having a messiah complex.
God be with her family.
-Pat
I am deeply offended by your use of the term "nut". This is a person who had some form of mental illness. What you did is the same as calling a gay man a fag or a lesbian a dyke. Your take on this situation really disgusted me.
Religion really has nothing to do with it. Even if she was not religious she would have found another reason to kill her son. And if she did not have a gun she would have found another way to kill her son.
I have several freinds who have some type of mental illness. I am a health proxy for two to them because they at least realize there may come a time they are not able to make reasonable decision about there mental health. You think insurance companies are a problem when your have some physical issue? You have not seen anything until you deal with insurance companies and mental illness. It is a nightmare. And many who need to be in a mental facility are let out on to the streets with no support after the insurance runs out. And many can not afford the meds once insurance runs out. it is a catch 22. And their families. Don't bother asking them for assistance. The family want nothing to do with them.
Mama's crazier than a bedbug?
Take her out for tea at the Ritz-Carlton; DON'T go to the shooting range.
I wish the same peer pressure would work with guns. Unfortunately, I suspect the NRA is counting on the fact that the people most upset by gun violence are the ones who can't speak because someone already shot them dead.
But this situation was unique due to the circumstances - the woman had mental illness.
I think this could've been prevented if the firing range was given proper access to medical and criminal records. Apparently in the papers customers had to sign, you had to say if you had mental illness or a criminal record, yet there was no legal way of clarifying the information, due to a lack of access to resources.
America, if you want a safer country with guns, YOU NEED TO IMPROVE YOUR LAWS, RULES AND ACCESS TO NECESSARY INFORMATION.
Another stupid person playing God.