Fair to say that America has never been is so much danger as it is now. History is changing as we all watch (again) and this time no-one at all is steering. At least in the aftermath of 911 most of us knew the hidden hand of the Neocon Right was steering things somewhere. Now? America has been thrown in the air and the pieces are just beginning to fall.
triple7s
· 1 year ago
I think the dems should run an ad with Palin and Tina Fey SNL clips side by side. Challenge the American people to decide who they want, a VP or another comedian. At the same time I would hate to take away a great money making gig for Tina over the next 5 years.
TheAngryFag
· 1 year ago
Agreed. He was acting like a fifth grader during that debate. At several times I kept expecting him to go "Screw you guys, I'm going home!" and stamp off the stage like Cartman. I am actually surprised he did not let anything slip verbally.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Good morning...
Drudge and a few other sites are trying to smear Obama again by saying the mother of the fallen soldier is upset that Obama mentioned her son in Friday nite's debate:
That is not true...
MILWAUKEE (AP) -- The mother of a Wisconsin soldier who died in Iraq says she was "ecstatic" during Friday's debate when Senator Barack Obama mentioned the bracelet she gave him in honor of her son.
She acknowledges e-mailing the campaign in February asking that Obama not mention her son in speeches or debates.
But she says Obama's mention on Friday was appropriate because he was responding after Senator John McCain said a soldier's mother gave him a bracelet.
Jopek says Obama's comment rightfully suggested there's more than one viewpoint on the war.
I'm thinking this McCain health care credit, if developed correctly, could within several weeks put the final nail in the coffin of`the McCain/Palin ticket.
red_dwarf
· 1 year ago
What would one expect from a guy who graduated pretty much last in a class of 900? Manners? Intelligence? Courtesy? Temperment?
McShank is an angry man - why is a question probably best left for a pyschologist to answer - unfortunetly McShank doesn't have enough years left in his life to get the demons out.
That he chose Palin is a testament to his insanity. Country First? Nothing could be further from the truth.
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
Breakfast TV Jabbering Heads:
Hilarity all around greeted Madame Speaker's declaration that the "party is over" on Wall Street." Of course, the Big Bailout just keeps the liquor store delivering the kegs. But most agree, it's a necessary but unpopular thing to do, however much it absolves Wall Street of its sins.
The Friday debate: a washout. Both guys did well enough, although McCain looked stiff and grumpy at times. Obama, while ideologically out of touch as he is as the Senate's most liberal legislator, at least showed he had the temperament to reassure troubled markets. So maybe people this year will be desperate enough to vote for the Calm Guy, even though they hate his politics and wouldn't want to have a shot with him. Mika said, as she so often does, he just doesn't connect with people. And, how important was the debate, really? Yes, Obama got a slight bump in the polls (Gallup Daily: 50/42), but Joe and Willie said the debate was boring for a lot of people (no memorable "You're No Jack Kennedy" moments).
Poor Sarah Palin! Mika's twisted facial muscles ran the gamut of empathic pain for Sarah as numerous clips of Tina Fey (or was it Sarah herself?) were shown. Leave Sarah Palin alone, you bastards! On Fox and Friends, Bill Kristol (not to be confused with Billy Crystal) opined, such is the sage that he is, that McCain knows that Palin's handlers are trying to make her someone she's not: a wonk. Free Sarah Palin! Let her be the lovable, confident leader that made America fall in love with her so long ago, what was it, 4 weeks? Just let her be herself--all she needs to do is stop trying to impress the Mainstream Media, which hates her, and go on Rush and Hannity EVERY day to get her to feel at ease before the debate with the Gaffe Master (and why doesn't SNL make fun of HIM, huh?!).
Obama, according to influential pundit Brent Bozell (who dedicates his life to protecting America's children from liberal Hollywood and its efforts to turn America into Sodom and Gomorrah), was a complete monster for exploiting the family of a fallen soldier in the debate. That dead hero's family told Obama not to talk about him, but he did anyway. Yes, the boy's mother is sort of an Obama supporter, but his father is a die-hard patriot who's voting for McCain, so that gives McCain sole use of dead soldier artifacts on the campaign trail. Obama: America sees through your appropriation of patriotic discourse which is the exclusive right of the GOP (NOW you wear your flag pin!), so you and Michelle can forget about your terrorist friend Ayers spending the night in the Lincoln Bedroom. No, it all means that Cindy's and John's good friends, all Republicans like Lincoln was, will be waking up to breakfast in bed in that august room!
grandma
· 1 year ago
Wonder if any of the slime and smear pundits will retract their lies:
Soldier's Mother "Ecstatic" about Obama's Bracelet
The Morning Joe crew had to eat their words this morning on Friday's debate...
admitting that Obama's demeanor during the debate was 'gracious'...etc....and McCain acting like he thought he was too good to be on the same stage.......and that was what won the debate for Obama.
Course Joe had to say it was odd because most Americans don't want what Obama wants... WHAT Joe?!?!???????????
osage
· 1 year ago
The older he gets the less able he is to control his emotions. At 72 years of age John McCain has not only lost his moral compass and resorted to bold-faced lying, he's lost his ability to control his visceral reactions to being criticized, challenged and confronted with his lies. Not looking at Obama was the only way McCain could prevent himself from going ballistic.
triple7s
· 1 year ago
The Morning Joe crew, setting the stage for complete blame of the dems.
grandma
· 1 year ago
OMG...Dick Gregory is an a hole...
Obama not a quick thinker.....oh yeah Gregory...well it's about time we get someone who thinks before he speaks....
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
David "Stretch" Gregory, right?
grandma
· 1 year ago
South Carolina mayor ‘just curious’ if Obama is the antichrist.
He's looking for scripture to confirm his hyposthesis. Maybe he'll find it right next to the reference that mankind walked alongside Allosaurs.
BTW: Former AG will not face probing in politicization of Justice Department (No Grand Jury). So much for the Rule of Law.
Indigo
· 1 year ago
What nonsense! Everybody knows the Anti-Christ is a Republican!
bob915
· 1 year ago
he should look further in the New Testament and see the Sermon on the Mount, where Jesus, the Christ says "Look ye not to the sliver in your neighor's eye, lest you ignore the plank in your own eye".
rexkc
· 1 year ago
Well, you have to admit that Sarah Palin and her 4000 member Army and Air National Guard are the only thing that keeps the Russians from invading America. Never have so many owed so much to so few.
Indigo
· 1 year ago
Good morning! The balance and fairness of the astrological month of Libra, now upon us, is challenged by the planet Mercury in retrograde. Where Mercury is quick and alert and accurate when sailing direct, he goes obstinant and confused in retrograde. The clouds of unreason and the trash talk are unlikely to receed into the background before mid-October when the astrological planet Mercury returns direct. Then the veil thins for Hallowe'en! Ain't life grand?
dances_with_beagles
· 1 year ago
I just had a horrific thought. I would prefer a third George W. Bush term to a McCain presidency. Why does my mind do these things to me?
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
On CNN: Mark Penn and Karen Hughes have joined forces in a consulting firm. They have them on the teevee now as "political analysts." I would think they would want to keep all that secret instead of bragging about how our politics "at their elite level" has become as fake as professional wrestling. If our politics at that level were real, you would NEVER see the ex-Campaign Manager of Her Highness, Hillary Clinton, and Sasquatch who would grab the mic and speak for Dubya in 2000 joining forces.
CNN is proving how "in the tank" they are by having those two on to "debate" each other. Yes, they just started a political consulting firm together. Conflict in interest? Nah, they both belond in the same party! When you get to that level of power there is only ONE party and that is "the highest bidder." Remember, folks Mark Penn would have had a big role in a Clinton administration. Thank GOD, we didn't select her as nominee. It would have been just "more of the same."
I wish Sasquatch Hughes would just go away. For God's Sake, she should have been exiled after writing that stupid self agrandizing book, "Fifteen Minutes from Normal." I didn't read it, but I remember her talking about how she wrote about a man who approached her and thanked her for helping elect George W. Bush as President. That was enough to turn my stomach.
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
Remember the last State of the Union? I found a YouTube of the analysis "going in." ABC reported how his rating was falling because of the war, but reminded viewers we have a "strong economy." What a joke:
Does anyone care what Ralph Nader thinks anymore? He was on Bill Maher's HBO show on Friday.
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
That was a weak lineup (Schifren, Daly, Nader); I scanned through it all to Suskind and New Rules.
bumpkis
· 1 year ago
Asia and European markets today don't seem to have much faith in a bailout passing anytime soon....
interlude
· 1 year ago
this WaPo account of the White House meeting may help explain the anger of McSame at the debate...
After the cameras left the Cabinet room, Bush thanked everybody for their spirit of cooperation and said he knew it was not an easy vote. He knew elements still needed to be worked out and said he wanted to go around the table to hear people's views. Pelosi said Obama would speak for the Democrats. Though later he would pepper Paulson with questions, according to a Republican in the room, his initial point was brief: "We've got to get something done." Bush turned to McCain, who joked, "The longer I am around here, the more I respect seniority." McCain then turned to Boehner and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to speak first. Boehner was blunt. The plan Paulson laid out would not win the support of the vast majority of House Republicans. It had been improved on the edges, with an oversight board and caps on the compensation of participating executives. But it had to be changed at the core. He did not mention the insurance alternative, but Democrats did. Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, pressed Boehner hard, asking him if he really intended to scrap the deal and start again. No, Boehner replied, he just wanted his members to have a voice. Obama then jumped in to turn the question on his rival: "What do you think of the [insurance] plan, John?" he asked repeatedly. McCain did not answer. One Republican in the room said it was clear that the Democrats came into the meeting with a "game plan" aimed at forcing McCain to choose between the administration and House Republicans. "They had taken McCain's request for a meeting and trumped it," said this source. Congressional aides from both parties were standing in the lobby of the West Wing, unaware of the discord inside the Cabinet room, when McCain emerged alone, shook the hands of the Marines at the door and left. The aides were baffled.
Very revealing of a lot of McCain's and Obama's characters:
"You all put me on the hook for $700 billion!" McCain all about me, ME, ME! And how he was being "persecuted" by others, (even if they were members of his own Party, of which he is the de facto leader now).
"What do you think of the insurance plan, John?" Obama asked repeatedly. McCain had no answer. Obama emerges in this chaotic environment as natural leader, soliciting input from all the parties involved. In camera, McCain is aggrieved, self-pitying, and narcissistic. In public, he is passive, lacking in basic understanding of the complexities of the situation, and a follower in a highly-conflicted collective enterprise (primatologists call this a "low-ranking monkey").
No wonder the following day McCain couldn't and wouldn't look Obama in the eye.
maudegonne
· 1 year ago
Filed at 9:25 a.m. ET
HONG KONG (AP) -- A Cadbury spokesman says preliminary results show its Chinese-made chocolates contain the industrial chemical melamine. The spokesman said Monday it was too early to say how much melamine the chocolates contained. http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-AS-Chi...
dula
· 1 year ago
This from the LA Times: House and Senate Democrats will likely see some of their own most cherished provisions treated much like the insurance measure -- with Paulson deciding how to handle them.
For example, while Democratic lawmakers declared that the final bill would ban companies selling troubled assets to the government from giving their executives multimillion-dollar salaries and "golden parachute" severance packages, Treasury officials briefing reporters on background late Sunday said the actual provisions were extraordinarily narrow.
The ban would generally apply only to severance packages, not salaries, and then only to packages negotiated in the future, not ones already in place. In addition, the bans would only affect companies that sell large blocks of assets to Washington, and only when the executive is fired or the company had gone bust.
"We want to encourage all institutions, including healthy institutions, to participate" in the program, said one of the Treasury briefers. "We're not abrogating existing [compensation] contracts."
A similar fate almost certainly awaits Democrat-drafted provisions to have the Treasury help financially stretched homeowners by jawboning mortgage servicers into renegotiating their mortgages.
The measure requires Paulson to "maximize assistance for homeowners . . . and minimize foreclosures." But in the very same sentence, it says the Treasury has to make sure that taxpayers are not stuck with any additional costs, which makes any substantial additional aid to homeowners unlikely.
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Drudge and a few other sites are trying to smear Obama again by saying the mother of the fallen soldier is upset that Obama mentioned her son in Friday nite's debate:
That is not true...
MILWAUKEE (AP) -- The mother of a Wisconsin soldier who died in Iraq says she was "ecstatic" during Friday's debate when Senator Barack Obama mentioned the bracelet she gave him in honor of her son.
She acknowledges e-mailing the campaign in February asking that Obama not mention her son in speeches or debates.
But she says Obama's mention on Friday was appropriate because he was responding after Senator John McCain said a soldier's mother gave him a bracelet.
Jopek says Obama's comment rightfully suggested there's more than one viewpoint on the war.
http://www.nbc15.com/state/headlines/29864149.html
Soldier's mom defends Obama's mention of bracelet
http://www.startribune.com/29863889.html?elr=KA...
McShank is an angry man - why is a question probably best left for a pyschologist to answer - unfortunetly McShank doesn't have enough years left in his life to get the demons out.
That he chose Palin is a testament to his insanity. Country First? Nothing could be further from the truth.
Hilarity all around greeted Madame Speaker's declaration that the "party is over" on Wall Street." Of course, the Big Bailout just keeps the liquor store delivering the kegs. But most agree, it's a necessary but unpopular thing to do, however much it absolves Wall Street of its sins.
The Friday debate: a washout. Both guys did well enough, although McCain looked stiff and grumpy at times. Obama, while ideologically out of touch as he is as the Senate's most liberal legislator, at least showed he had the temperament to reassure troubled markets. So maybe people this year will be desperate enough to vote for the Calm Guy, even though they hate his politics and wouldn't want to have a shot with him. Mika said, as she so often does, he just doesn't connect with people. And, how important was the debate, really? Yes, Obama got a slight bump in the polls (Gallup Daily: 50/42), but Joe and Willie said the debate was boring for a lot of people (no memorable "You're No Jack Kennedy" moments).
Poor Sarah Palin! Mika's twisted facial muscles ran the gamut of empathic pain for Sarah as numerous clips of Tina Fey (or was it Sarah herself?) were shown. Leave Sarah Palin alone, you bastards! On Fox and Friends, Bill Kristol (not to be confused with Billy Crystal) opined, such is the sage that he is, that McCain knows that Palin's handlers are trying to make her someone she's not: a wonk. Free Sarah Palin! Let her be the lovable, confident leader that made America fall in love with her so long ago, what was it, 4 weeks? Just let her be herself--all she needs to do is stop trying to impress the Mainstream Media, which hates her, and go on Rush and Hannity EVERY day to get her to feel at ease before the debate with the Gaffe Master (and why doesn't SNL make fun of HIM, huh?!).
Obama, according to influential pundit Brent Bozell (who dedicates his life to protecting America's children from liberal Hollywood and its efforts to turn America into Sodom and Gomorrah), was a complete monster for exploiting the family of a fallen soldier in the debate. That dead hero's family told Obama not to talk about him, but he did anyway. Yes, the boy's mother is sort of an Obama supporter, but his father is a die-hard patriot who's voting for McCain, so that gives McCain sole use of dead soldier artifacts on the campaign trail. Obama: America sees through your appropriation of patriotic discourse which is the exclusive right of the GOP (NOW you wear your flag pin!), so you and Michelle can forget about your terrorist friend Ayers spending the night in the Lincoln Bedroom. No, it all means that Cindy's and John's good friends, all Republicans like Lincoln was, will be waking up to breakfast in bed in that august room!
Soldier's Mother "Ecstatic" about Obama's Bracelet
http://www.nbc15.com/state/headlines/29864149.html
admitting that Obama's demeanor during the debate was 'gracious'...etc....and McCain acting like he thought he was too good to be on the same stage.......and that was what won the debate for Obama.
Course Joe had to say it was odd because most Americans don't want what Obama wants...
WHAT Joe?!?!???????????
Obama not a quick thinker.....oh yeah Gregory...well it's about time we get someone who thinks before he speaks....
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/28/obama-antic...
Is there no end to their stupidity.
BTW: Former AG will not face probing in politicization of Justice Department (No Grand Jury). So much for the Rule of Law.
CNN is proving how "in the tank" they are by having those two on to "debate" each other. Yes, they just started a political consulting firm together. Conflict in interest? Nah, they both belond in the same party! When you get to that level of power there is only ONE party and that is "the highest bidder." Remember, folks Mark Penn would have had a big role in a Clinton administration. Thank GOD, we didn't select her as nominee. It would have been just "more of the same."
I wish Sasquatch Hughes would just go away. For God's Sake, she should have been exiled after writing that stupid self agrandizing book, "Fifteen Minutes from Normal." I didn't read it, but I remember her talking about how she wrote about a man who approached her and thanked her for helping elect George W. Bush as President. That was enough to turn my stomach.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcexVtp9lRM
After the cameras left the Cabinet room, Bush thanked everybody for their spirit of cooperation and said he knew it was not an easy vote. He knew elements still needed to be worked out and said he wanted to go around the table to hear people's views.
Pelosi said Obama would speak for the Democrats. Though later he would pepper Paulson with questions, according to a Republican in the room, his initial point was brief: "We've got to get something done."
Bush turned to McCain, who joked, "The longer I am around here, the more I respect seniority." McCain then turned to Boehner and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to speak first.
Boehner was blunt. The plan Paulson laid out would not win the support of the vast majority of House Republicans. It had been improved on the edges, with an oversight board and caps on the compensation of participating executives. But it had to be changed at the core. He did not mention the insurance alternative, but Democrats did. Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, pressed Boehner hard, asking him if he really intended to scrap the deal and start again.
No, Boehner replied, he just wanted his members to have a voice. Obama then jumped in to turn the question on his rival: "What do you think of the [insurance] plan, John?" he asked repeatedly. McCain did not answer.
One Republican in the room said it was clear that the Democrats came into the meeting with a "game plan" aimed at forcing McCain to choose between the administration and House Republicans. "They had taken McCain's request for a meeting and trumped it," said this source.
Congressional aides from both parties were standing in the lobby of the West Wing, unaware of the discord inside the Cabinet room, when McCain emerged alone, shook the hands of the Marines at the door and left. The aides were baffled.
check it out at
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...
"You all put me on the hook for $700 billion!" McCain all about me, ME, ME! And how he was being "persecuted" by others, (even if they were members of his own Party, of which he is the de facto leader now).
"What do you think of the insurance plan, John?" Obama asked repeatedly. McCain had no answer. Obama emerges in this chaotic environment as natural leader, soliciting input from all the parties involved. In camera, McCain is aggrieved, self-pitying, and narcissistic. In public, he is passive, lacking in basic understanding of the complexities of the situation, and a follower in a highly-conflicted collective enterprise (primatologists call this a "low-ranking monkey").
No wonder the following day McCain couldn't and wouldn't look Obama in the eye.
HONG KONG (AP) -- A Cadbury spokesman says preliminary results show its Chinese-made chocolates contain the industrial chemical melamine. The spokesman said Monday it was too early to say how much melamine the chocolates contained.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-AS-Chi...
House and Senate Democrats will likely see some of their own most cherished provisions treated much like the insurance measure -- with Paulson deciding how to handle them.
For example, while Democratic lawmakers declared that the final bill would ban companies selling troubled assets to the government from giving their executives multimillion-dollar salaries and "golden parachute" severance packages, Treasury officials briefing reporters on background late Sunday said the actual provisions were extraordinarily narrow.
The ban would generally apply only to severance packages, not salaries, and then only to packages negotiated in the future, not ones already in place. In addition, the bans would only affect companies that sell large blocks of assets to Washington, and only when the executive is fired or the company had gone bust.
"We want to encourage all institutions, including healthy institutions, to participate" in the program, said one of the Treasury briefers. "We're not abrogating existing [compensation] contracts."
A similar fate almost certainly awaits Democrat-drafted provisions to have the Treasury help financially stretched homeowners by jawboning mortgage servicers into renegotiating their mortgages.
The measure requires Paulson to "maximize assistance for homeowners . . . and minimize foreclosures." But in the very same sentence, it says the Treasury has to make sure that taxpayers are not stuck with any additional costs, which makes any substantial additional aid to homeowners unlikely.
Screwed much?