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AMERICAblog: Monday Morning Open Thread

  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Good morning

    Last week Robert Rubin, the former Treasury secretary, declared that Mr. Frank is right about the need for expanded regulation. Mr. Rubin put it clearly: If Wall Street companies can count on being rescued like banks, then they need to be regulated like banks.

    But will that logic prevail politically?

    Not if Mr. McCain makes it to the White House. His chief economic adviser is former Senator Phil Gramm, a fervent advocate of financial deregulation. In fact, I’d argue that aside from Alan Greenspan, nobody did as much as Mr. Gramm to make this crisis possible.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/24/opinion/24kru...
  • ILiveinaDemocracy · 1 year ago
    REPOST

    IMPORTANT!!!!!

    I just came across this article and I find it very interesting that the MSM hasn't run a story on this yet. I think THIS is the reason why HRC hasn't released her tax papers. HIllary and Hubby are being sued for FRAUD. HEARING IS SET APRIL 25TH.

    Peter Paul says this photo shows him, and his wife, Andrea, celebrating his business deal with President Clinton (Courtesy Hillcap.org)

    A judge in Los Angeles yesterday allowed Hollywood mogul Peter F. Paul to begin taking sworn testimony in his $17 million fraud suit against former President Bill Clinton, but a technicality delayed establishment of a trial date.

    California Superior Court Judge Aurelio N. Munoz ruled Paul's legal team can begin seeking depositions from a host of big names – including Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton – that allegedly were witnesses to an effort by the Clintons and top Democratic leaders to extract millions of dollars from Paul in illegal donations and then cover it up.

    Munoz is expected to set the trial date at an April 25 hearing. He said yesterday in court he could not set the date, because defendant Jim Levin, an aide to President Clinton, must be served notice again. Levin did not respond to the original complaint, and Paul's legal counsel at the time – the Washington watchdog Judicial Watch – did not file a notice of default to verify that fact before filing an amended complaint.

    The complaint says Bill Clinton promised to promote Paul's Internet entertainment company, Stan Lee Media, in exchange for stock, cash options and massive contributions to his wife's 2000 Senate campaign. Paul contends he was directed by the Clintons and Democratic Party leaders to produce, pay for and then join them in lying about footing the bill for an August 2000 Hollywood gala and fundraiser.

    Paul attorney Colette Wilson told WND she has 30 days to service notice to Levin, and he will have 30 days to respond.

    Read more
    http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/...
  • Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago
    ILiveinaDemocracy, 8:15am, so Hil & Bil are being sued for fraud to the tune of 17million by one of their Hollywood friends, Peter F.Paul. My my my yes indeed wont that make a juicy news item if the MSM ever puts it out on the air. But poor Hil, one way or another we still want to see those tax returns. Could it be that the same MSM are the ones not bothering to plow over Insane McCain's seedy and disreputable past with an eye to what he will do for them if they keep trying to burnish McCain's already collapsing image. MSM should stop worrying about the past because what is sure to do in Insane McCain will be the increasingly occuring "brain-farts," as people seem to be calling them. But perhaps old John's people will adopt some of the Bush tactics like public appearances, speeches, and certainly questions only from closed pre-selected rupublicon clones, who are programmed only to clap whistle and wave signs. And with his election funding irregularities to consider, each attendee would have to show their contribution receipt for the max allowed by law---well maybe not the republicons wouldn't feel such a law applied to them.
    Now with these people as the alternatives, do I have to say again:
    SUPPORT OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT 2008.
  • Rab · 1 year ago
    I always hold out hope that the sheeple wouldn't even think about putting grandpa in the white house. If these dumbasses think that a guy this ancient will be able to sort through the disaster that the chimp is leaving on the table are seriously deluded. Hillary needs to pack it in and take her hillbots with her and let Obama try to save this country.
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Nothing will be done about regulating these greedheads if people like the guy from AEI on CSPAN has anything to do about it. This guy even stated with a straight face that the "robber barons got a bad rap" and believes that greed by homeowners is more to blame than the insolvency of the investment banks that tossed around mortgage securities like they were popcorn just to maximize their profits.

    And I'm hearing more and more from financial pundits that this housing crisis is narrow and shallow, rather than the disaster it really is.
  • Rab · 1 year ago
    I watched the same thing OlderandWiser on C-Span, what a puke, waxing romantically about robber barons.
  • Mykel1 · 1 year ago
    Senator's Clinton, Obama & McCain are part of a congress that has historically poor popularity ratings. Yet all are in the final stretch to be P.O.T.U.S. Talk about massive spin.

    Spin sickness - nausea, sensory d I s O re I n tA Ti On, dizziness, confusion & inability to determine reality brought about by excessive political lying or in Politically Correct speak, spin.

    Spin sickness in the later stages is known to bring about totally nonsensical behavior and severally impaired judgment to the audience it is used on.
    After severe repeated exposure to political spin it is known to induce a zombie like trance, partisan infighting or childlike disposition in whole populationz.
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    So, the AEI types like the Fed bailing out the greedheads, but homeowners can go fuck themselves...or in another immortal word of Cheney, "So?"

    I've never wished so hard for the demise of another human being. :(
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    "If these dumbasses think that a guy this ancient will be able to sort through the disaster that the chimp is leaving on the table are seriously deluded."
    Rab

    Just read this in the comments at TPM:
    Greenwald had a good take on this: Would you call in the quack surgeon who botched your surgery operation to fix his hack job?

    http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/23...
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    CNN reporting the turkey just arrived in Turkey....
  • Webster · 1 year ago
    Reporters are not afraid of making McCain angry--they are doing the bidding of their corporate overlords who want to retain the $tatu$ quo. McCain will continue to receive a free pass, because the Corporate-distract-the-people-MSM want to continue to their tax breaks and continue business unregulated.
  • Mykel1 · 1 year ago
    I for one have no faith in Democrats or Republicans. Both parties have failed the American people & have put the American way of life in jeporady .

    All I expect from DC politicians is divide & conquer politics. Incite people to fight over race, religion & politics, while the rich continue to get rich.

    .
  • Webster · 1 year ago
    "to receive their tax breaks..."
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Iraq war dead now 4,000, no longer front page news

    The number was known quickly, the name of the fallen was not.

    In very few places was the number even front page news in a war now five years old.


    http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog...
  • Sage24 · 1 year ago
    That Wolfenson (?) guy from the Clinton camp was on MSNBC this morning, and I felt I was in the twilight zone for a few minutes, because he was playing the victim card, and accusing the Obama camp of making personal attacks on Hillary every day. This, from the campaign that announced they were going to throw the kitchen sink at Obama. Even when he was asked about the Bosnian lie by Hillary, managed to turn it into Obama attacking her.
    These people are disgusting. Are the Hillary supporters blind like the Bush supporters? I know that both camps have been at fault, but Hillary has played really gutter politics, even endorsing McCain over a fellow Democrat, and has used Rovian tactics to get the nomination, she acts like was inevitable.
  • Rab · 1 year ago
    Okay, what would you do to fix this Mykel1. If everything is corrupt and nasty and no one can be trusted, what is you solution to this, and by the way, the last 8 years have been almost exclusively repug.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Awwww...poor Hillary....maybe she'll cry for the camera.
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    How many homeowners, having bought a house just prior to the beginning of rising home prices in 2003, are now caught up in that inflation, including higher property taxes and insurance, further inflating their home costs? Will the taxes and insurance fall as the home value falls? Interestingly, the doublewide my son and I live in has been reduced in value $2K over last year. Not only is the house payment the same, but our tax and insurance will actually fall. And this house is relatively easy to maintain, there are no problems after 10 years, and we get the benefit of a declining value of housing (although not the land) that we will probably both die in, unless, of course, my son wins the lottery. Even then, I would probably stay here and do improvements (like a screened in front porch) and he would move into that houseboat he wants. :) How many people who have bought houses with over-inflated value over the last 5 years can say the same? Sadly, probably none.
  • Rab · 1 year ago
    If Hillary cries, its Obama's fault.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    LOL...true !
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Gas prices are rising?

    No, no, that can't be.

    Gas prices were supposed to go down because of the war.

    Better recheck that, Joe.

    (snark/)
  • Sage24 · 1 year ago
    Israel wants the US to once again, to attack another country, on their behalf.
    Why are we spending our dollars, and losing our precious troops, just to keep Israel happy? We keep sending Israel millions of dollars, and weapons, to keep them safe, and we still have to keep protecting them. Our politicians, are so afraid of the Israeli Lobby, they keep acting like suckers, and doing their bidding.
    We have to look after ourselves, and our people over here, no?
    As for Cheney, it would suit him fine to bomb Iran, after all his contractor buddies, will once again, make billions of dollars on this too.

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=48714§...
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    ILiveinaDemocracy
    REPOST

    IMPORTANT!!!!!

    I just came across this article and I find it very interesting that the MSM hasn't run a story on this yet. I think THIS is the reason why HRC hasn't released her tax papers. HIllary and Hubby are being sued for FRAUD. HEARING IS SET APRIL 25TH.

    -----
    As Hunter Thompson used to say:

    Cazart !
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Does Clinton think she can be both victim and victor? That shows poor judgment in her very core. I guess the campaign meme is, Rising from the ashes of victimhood (let's make that private, as well), Clinton goes on to show strength of character in overcoming the slings and arrows of the Obama campaign.

    Oh please, does she think she's Cinderella or something? And Obama is the Big Bad Wolf? (Yeah, she mixes it up...) Face reality, Hillary...face reality. (BTW, she's sending Bubba back to Charlotte to raise more money in Charlotte at the City Club (you know, where all the bankers meet for cocktails).

    The very fact that she has such slimy lobbyists as Mark Penn working her campaign should tell people she can't be trusted.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    LONDON (AFP) - The US plans to urge Britain to launch a "surge" in Basra to combat increasing violence in the southern Iraqi region, the Sunday Mirror newspaper reported.

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    Britain, which has around 4,100 troops in Iraq, transferred control to Iraqi forces in December last year but could now be asked to step up its role again amid top-level concern about the situation, the paper said.

    It quoted an unnamed senior US military source saying: "Three big militias are currently engaged in a particularly bloody battle in southern Iraq.

    "US and Iraqi forces are involved in a huge operation to attack an Al-Qaeda stronghold in Mosul.

    "But after that, the plan is to turn the coalition's attention on to Basra and we will be urging the British to surge into the city.


    ----

    LOL.
  • BorninUSA · 1 year ago
    OK, here is my problem. Shouldn't the comments begin with the oldest on top and the newest comment on the bottom? The way it is now you start reading the newest comment and maybe they refer to an earlier comment then you have to scroll down to find that comment. Before, we started with the oldest and could read our way down to the latest with some continuity. Just me.
  • Bia · 1 year ago
    Yeah, I don't like this new format much either.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Natives getting restless:

    LONDON (AFP) - The US plans to urge Britain to launch a "surge" in Basra to combat increasing violence in the southern Iraqi region, the Sunday Mirror newspaper reported.

    Britain, which has around 4,100 troops in Iraq, transferred control to Iraqi forces in December last year but could now be asked to step up its role again amid top-level concern about the situation, the paper said.

    It quoted an unnamed senior US military source saying: "Three big militias are currently engaged in a particularly bloody battle in southern Iraq.

    "US and Iraqi forces are involved in a huge operation to attack an Al-Qaeda stronghold in Mosul.

    "But after that, the plan is to turn the coalition's attention on to Basra and we will be urging the British to surge into the city.



    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080324/ts_nm/iraq_...
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Meant to post this one:


    FALLUJA, Iraq (Reuters) - Tensions are simmering again in once bloody Anbar province, Washington's prize good news story for security in Iraq.

    Along the main road through Anbar's second city of Falluja, a former insurgent stronghold and scene of fierce battles with U.S. forces in 2004, markets and car workshops are re-opening for business.

    But many say that growing anger at a lack of jobs, basic services and political progress threatens to shatter peace in the western province, which makes up about a third of Iraq.

    "The situation till now is still not certain in Anbar, and the peace is only relative to before. Calm always comes before a storm," Sunni tribal leader Sheikh Yaseen al-Badrani said.
  • maggiePA08 · 1 year ago
    Born,
    if you click the options button, you can sort the thread however you like.
  • ILiveinaDemocracy · 1 year ago
    Thanx Maggie
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    CNN reporting 'Clinton to make major speech'...

    Probably can't stand all the attention Obama's speech got last week.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    A Naperville medical records firm founded by an innovative businessman has hired retired House Speaker Dennis Hastert as a strategic adviser.

    The Goeken Group Corp. has hired Hastert, whose connections on Capitol Hill might also be of benefit to the firm.


    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-ha...
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    grandma

    CNN reporting 'Clinton to make major speech'...

    Probably can't stand all the attention Obama's speech got last week.

    ---

    Yeah, she wants to make sure Obama's end of the week good news--reaction to racism speech, uptick in polls, Hillary's Bosnia B.S., Richardson endorsement--doesn't carry through to this week.

    She'll probably throw a few grenades to try to drive his negatives up again.

    After all, she has nothing productive to say.
  • Bia · 1 year ago
    I dropped everything I was doing and was riveted by Obama's speech on race and religion!
    Not only a very moving speech of historic proportions, but giving his public some credit for understanding the complexities of the issues,
    instead of this jingoistic talking down to people that most politicians, especially Republicans do.
    He was very brave not to disown his pastor, with all the pressure on him from the Rightwing Media, and probably his own party as well!
    (Now, if he can muster the same courage against the pressures from AIPAC! I didn't like his equivocating about the Palestinians at all. )

    The Rev. Wright debacle reminds me of what they did with the Dean Scream: took one passionate moment completely out of context
    and played it over and over ad nauseum, so that stupid people who are too lazy or apathetic to research the entire sermon, would
    come to the conclusions FOX news and the bootlicking propaganda machine presents to them.
    I believe the point the fiery reverend was trying to make, was that God already HAS blessed America generously, and look what they've done with it and to the rest of the world!? The teachings of Jesus do NOT stop at the boundaries of THIS country, nor with the followers of THIS religion! They also do not stop at the color line.
    (And really, if anyone doubts the premise that God already HAS "damned America", they need only look at what eight years of Bush/Cheney
    have done to us!)
    And talk about pressure! It was really great to see Bill Richardson come out for Obama (maybe it was this speech that pushed him over)
    with such an onus on him to endorse Clinton. As an accomplished man in foreign policy, it flies directly in the face of Hillery's assertion that Obama isn't "experienced" enough. The best part was when Richardson said "And mostly, I think Obama is a GOOD MAN." and cited how,
    during the heat of the debates, when he, like Kucinich, could hardly get a word in edgewise, he had been quietly talking to Obama and was suddenly and unexpectedly called upon to answer a question he hadn't heard. He turned to Obama, who generously whispered the question to him, instead of allowing him to look clueless and "throwing me under the bus". (lots of that going around I guess!)

    Sure can't imagine Clinton doing that. She might have once stood for all the same things as Obama, but now she wants so desperately to win,
    I'm not sure she can be trusted anymore!
    Of course, on the other hand, I'm absolutely sure Mc Cain CAN be trusted...to do the all the wrong things, including starting another war, with Iran, as he so badly wants to be a "WAR president" it's practically oozing out of him!
    And just think: if Congress doesn't Immediately start Impeachment and redress, Mc Cain will be starting out with all the dictatorial powers Bush/Cheney have spent these 8 years amassing! Then our "Damning" will truly be complete!
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Major speech by Clinton will probably be about gender? So, once again, she follows in the footsteps of another? Will she make any comments about the fact that there are 16 white women already in the Senate, and only one black person, Barack Obama, who will soon be our president? And that perhaps we should elect more blacks to the Senate, both men and women? Will she ask why the people can't allow more than one black person in the Senate at a time, but continue to add more white women?
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    So what you're saying, O&W, is that Hillary has a gender. That's interesting. Does her pants suit maker know that?
  • Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago
    Indigo, 9:24am, I think its quite unfair of you to suggest that Hil's pants suit maker is responsible for her unfeminine look. The maker can't help the thunder thighs and fat ass that are Hil. What would you want the maker to do make the pants entirely out of spandex? I really don't think any of us would want to be subject to having to see that. Anyway I think she gets them off the rack at Walmart, probably still gets a discount from her days on the board.
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    bill kristol is utterly pathetic. the GOP has tied itself to the extreme religious right and yet kristol manages to just skim right over that fact...
    http://mediamatters.org/items/200803230004?f=h_...
  • Sage24 · 1 year ago
    Obama has somehow surged ahead of Clinton by a couple of points in the Gallup daily poll, despite his not so great week.
    Hillary is trying to scratch, claw, and even lie (dangerous Bosnian mission? ha, ha) to win that nomination.
    Experts say she cannot win, and yet we find her husband, her campaign and herself throwing the toilet sink at Obama, just
    to stop his momentum. They are selfishly destroying the party and it's chances of winning the Presidency.
    Many folks are fed up of the power hungry Clintons for their Rovian tactics, and have decided not to vote for Hillary, if she
    steals the nomination.
    Why haven't the MSM brought up this Peter Paul issue? It is worse than the Wright issue, or the Rezko issue, because the
    Clintons are personally involved in the corruption, or so the lawsuit papers say.
    The media gets their kicks from seeing this Clinton/Obama rivalry, and are just indifferent to informing the facts to the people.
    The media, once again, are controlling the elections.
  • ILiveinaDemocracy · 1 year ago
    I think Richardson said it best. That somehow "they" her campaign and she herself think that they are entitled to the presidency.
  • BorninUSA · 1 year ago
    Wow! Thanks maggiePA08 1 hr ago.
    Think I mentioned a few posts ago that I feel really stupid with this.
    Notice you were the only one to address my stupidity. Everyone else just shakes their head, ignoring my problem.
    Thanks again.
  • kevinbgoode · 1 year ago
    I haven't seen anything at all about McCain breaking campaign finance laws. But then, we all know the media is so..."liberal."
  • constantcomment · 1 year ago
    George W. Bush is a horse's ass. and a bastard too.