Can we all just say it, Sarah Palin is just plain whacked. No doubt there will be spin spin spin. I wonder how much profit Palin made on billing out the rape kits? I have to wonder what she used the monies for.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
This fits perfectly into the GOPer party platform. They are anti-woman at every possible opportunity. They try to hide that fact by picking an extreme right wing woman with views most women oppose.
Lots and lotsa women are gonna say Thanks but no Thanks to that crock o malarkey!
osage
· 1 year ago
Should Ms. Palin become VP, who is going to be with her special needs infant from 6AM until at least 6PM? Will her baby be awake when she gets home? How many hours a day will she be available to nurture her child? Will Mr. Palin be traveling with his wife or is he going to become a full-time stay-at-home parent? Will nannies raise her child? Which role will be her priority, VP or mother? Will she take her baby with her everywhere she goes? How is her special needs child going to get the special attention she'll need? Perhaps my idea of what the emotional needs of children are is an old-fashioned one, but it is my belief, based on loving and raising three children, that there will be many, many instances when her "job" as VP will have to take precedence over being a mother. In this day and age, it may not seem fair to imply that a woman can't have a job and still be a good mother, but the reality is that any man or woman who has a newborn special needs child will confront the unfair but real choice of being at work or being there for their child. And anyone who believes in that "quality time" rationalization is full of it! I don't care what anyone believes, the time you don't spend with your child is time that you and your child can never get back. You lose it and your child loses it forever. And that is undeniably the choice a working parent makes no matter how unfair it might seem. Parents and children only have one life, and the most valuable gift parents can give their children is their time, which is life’s most precious and most fleeting finite commodity.
HereinDC
· 1 year ago
Time to move on.....keep the focus on McCain.... there are plenty of people looking at Palin now......keep the focus on McCain Just look at that video John posted earlier....
that is some damning video.
CTloathesJoe
· 1 year ago
Here's a perfect opportunity to get women away from Palin. Have Obama promise to reimburse every single rape victim for their expenses once he gets into office. Rape is a violent crime and the raped is a VICTIM.
HereinDC
· 1 year ago
That sponsor of the bill to ax the fee, Democrat Eric Croft, He needs to be interviewed.....and put up on You Tube....Maybe Ed Shultz could get him for the townmeeting on Saturday.
The law was aimed in part at Wasilla, whereSarah Palin was mayor.
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
Why do I get the impression that Track has been a MAJOR disappointment to Mom and Dad? I see them as aggressive Ramsey-like hockey parents, pushing that kid so much he fell into a netherworld of drug abuse (if the paid informants of the National Enquirer are to be believed). And to what extent was Palin's disastrous sports complex for Wasilla a vanity project? It's relevant to the thread, since it was a huge misallocation of taxpayer money...
JohnInTexas
· 1 year ago
Hey don't mention Track, he's headed off to eye-rack, that's almost a POW and he's a heeeerow....guess she was too busy with her career to pay him enough attention.
Wild_Weasel
· 1 year ago
Fiscal responsibility is NOT:
- Supporting the Bridge-To-Nowhere port and then later saying "no thanks" but STILL keeping the U.S. taxpayers money.
- Collecting per diem when you are living in your own home.
- Selling a jet for a huge loss for appearance purposes even though Alaska still needed to buy other transportation to move prisoners around. Particularly when Alaska government officials still need to move about the state, which is one-fifth the size of the entire lower-48 states. What were the economic analyses that went into the decision to sell the jet, or did she just stick it to Alaska taxpayers so she could show-boat?
Also,
- Trooper-Gate - Road-to-Nowhere-Gate
She could be the best VP selection for the GOP but without the PRESS, real journalists, having access to ask the tough questions, we don't need to buy a pig-in-a-poke, so to speak.
Avias
· 1 year ago
It's really worth pushing that her administration charged rape victims for these tests to 'save the taxpayers from the burden' at the same time that her administration *raised* taxes, and even taxed *food*, for pete's sake, to pay off her sports complex boondoggle. In Palin's world, it's far too much of a burden to publicly finance *basic police procedures*, but when the Hockey Moms need a place to hang out, the public can just eat it. That's some real Compassionate Conservatism for ya.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
Someone in the media!! should ask McCain what his historic choice of a Woman as Vice President will mean for all American women...
then drop the rape kit bomb on him.
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
It seems that Women's Groups in Alaska are now rallying AGAINST Palin. It's good to see true Feminists in action.
Link it in with McCain's "Education" ad and his unwillingness to protect children against predators. Make them the ticket of rapists and pedophiles, and keep banging at it.
AdrianBrowne
· 1 year ago
Someone needs to ask Palin if she believes in The Rapture -- she'll be afraid to say yes and afraid to say no.
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
I disagree. Evangelicals are very serious about the rapture and are anything BUT scared of broaching the topic.
Having said that, I agree that she should be asked MORE questions about how her religious views would impact reality and science. THAT is crucial info that hasn't really been addressed yet. I want her to disclose her Creationist views along with all of her other "extreme" differences with science.
AdrianBrowne
· 1 year ago
Wouldn't surprise me if Palin was selling the kits at a profit.
MNUSA
· 1 year ago
Kind of discourages accusing someone of rape, doesn't it? But then, perhaps, like her running mate, she thinks women should just enjoy being beaten and raped.
middlegirl
· 1 year ago
Of all the questionable issues out there on Teflon Sarah, this one might have the most stick. It might connect more emotionally with voters, especially women. Alaska has one of the highest incidences of rape in the country. Wow, shame on you, Sarah, a real feminist sister. Biden is more of a feminist.
eliot99
· 1 year ago
I was a police officer (detective) for many years. Prior to victims rights laws, it was still our policy that the examination and kit be billed to the department. And that's here in backwardass Georgia (originally from NY). The woman is a VICTIM FOR GOD'S SAKE!!! Palin billing these women is VERY telling. It shows a complete lack of compassion, understanding and morals. It's like billing a murder victim's family for the autopsy. Unbelievable.
JohnInTexas
· 1 year ago
What is this "300.00 to 1000.00" for the cost of the rape kit, which is it or is it according to the victims insurance carrier as to how much they get charged. What a load of crap.
freshpaint
· 1 year ago
Let us not forget that Joe Biden, Obama's running mate, was responsible for the original 1994 Violence Against Women Act that has been enhanced several times. It was only in 2005 that this practice was banned at the federal level. It took a Democratic governor (Tony Knowles of Alaska) to ban the practice in 2000 (or 2001, can't remember). You don't have to be a woman to know what's right and what's wrong.
paige
· 1 year ago
If she charged the victims it's a big story. If she charged only victims insurance, it's not a big story. I don't really understand how they could bill it to insurance though- it's evidence gathering, not health care.
Eyeball_Kid
· 1 year ago
And so we wonder about whether insurance companies were billed, and whether they reimbursed the costs to the town. Likely, the insurance companies declined the charge for the non-medical reason noted above. If medical insurance charges were then to be treated in the normal way, the bill for the rape kits would be given to the rape victim in the same manner that medical costs denied payment by medical insurance companies are then returned to the patient. Further research is needed.
Eyeball_Kid
· 1 year ago
So, John, maybe a good question to ask Ms. "Fantasy to Nowhere" is if she would introduce a bill to Congress that would make it a federal law to charge all women nationwide for their rape kits, just as was done in Wasilla. The tax savings would, after all, be enormous.
smiling_dog
· 1 year ago
I'm guessing there's more to this than just wanting to save taxpayers money. It feels to me like - "If you are going to accuse some poor man of rape, then you better put your money where your mouth is and pay for your own rape kit. We don't want any sluts falsely accusing men of rape" - is the kind of underlying attitude behind this policy.
ColoradoDem
· 1 year ago
Well, obviously, the taxpayers can alleviate their own damn burden if they would just stop raping their female residents. Pretty easy. Kind of a win / win; no?
Bcre8ve
· 1 year ago
And what a horrible burden it would have ben on Wasilla, Alaska's fourth-largest city -
"According to Fannon, the new law will cost the Wasilla Police Department approximately $5,000 to $14,000 a year to collect evidence for sexual assault cases." http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/2000/05/23...
With a population of around 7,025 people (town's own 2007 estimate), that would have been a whopping grand total of less than $2 per resident, per year.
Over at Townhall (won't link to them EVER), they are claiming that this story is a "myth", because the Chief of Police, Fannon, said, "In the past we've charged the cost of exams to the victims insurance company when possible. I just don't want to see any more burden put on the taxpayer" and, "Ultimately it is the criminal who should bear the burden of the added costs. The forensic exam is just one part of the equation. I'd like to see the courts make these people pay restitution for these things"
So, Wasilla was the ONLY city in AK that was charging victims for their rape kits (through THEIR insurance if possible if they didn't have insurance? Nobody paid for it?), and wanted to save the taxpayers of Wasilla less than $2 per year that it would have cost to do the right thing. And this is a myth why? Because they felt that the criminal should ultimately pay for the cost? What prevented the courts in Wasilla from ordering restitution for the cost of the kit? Was there some sort of law that said they were not able to? Snort!
Once again the Rethuglicans have proven themselves to be the good old boy club that they are.
And I'm sure McSame won't mind. He thinks rape is funny and surrounds himself with more good old boys that feel the same way.
As his friend Clayton Williams said, “As long as it’s inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it.”
Truly despicable!
And just remember, just because Palin is female, it doesn't make her any less of a good old boy.
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Word this topic something like:
McCain's VP pick, Sarha Palin, charged rape victims for rape kit.
They are anti-woman at every possible opportunity.
They try to hide that fact by picking an extreme right wing woman with views most women oppose.
Lots and lotsa women are gonna say Thanks but no Thanks to that crock o malarkey!
there are plenty of people looking at Palin now......keep the focus on McCain
Just look at that video John posted earlier....
that is some damning video.
Have Obama promise to reimburse every single rape victim for their expenses once he gets into office.
Rape is a violent crime and the raped is a VICTIM.
The law was aimed in part at Wasilla, whereSarah Palin was mayor.
- Supporting the Bridge-To-Nowhere port and then later saying "no thanks" but STILL keeping the U.S. taxpayers money.
- Collecting per diem when you are living in your own home.
- Selling a jet for a huge loss for appearance purposes even though Alaska still needed to buy other transportation to move prisoners around. Particularly when Alaska government officials still need to move about the state, which is one-fifth the size of the entire lower-48 states. What were the economic analyses that went into the decision to sell the jet, or did she just stick it to Alaska taxpayers so she could show-boat?
Also,
- Trooper-Gate
- Road-to-Nowhere-Gate
She could be the best VP selection for the GOP but without the PRESS, real journalists, having access to ask the tough questions, we don't need to buy a pig-in-a-poke, so to speak.
then drop the rape kit bomb on him.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/11/abc-on...
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Having said that, I agree that she should be asked MORE questions about how her religious views would impact reality and science. THAT is crucial info that hasn't really been addressed yet. I want her to disclose her Creationist views along with all of her other "extreme" differences with science.
"According to Fannon, the new law will cost the Wasilla Police Department approximately $5,000 to $14,000 a year to collect evidence for sexual assault cases."
http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/2000/05/23...
With a population of around 7,025 people (town's own 2007 estimate), that would have been a whopping grand total of less than $2 per resident, per year.
Over at Townhall (won't link to them EVER), they are claiming that this story is a "myth", because the Chief of Police, Fannon, said, "In the past we've charged the cost of exams to the victims insurance company when possible. I just don't want to see any more burden put on the taxpayer" and, "Ultimately it is the criminal who should bear the burden of the added costs. The forensic exam is just one part of the equation. I'd like to see the courts make these people pay restitution for these things"
So, Wasilla was the ONLY city in AK that was charging victims for their rape kits (through THEIR insurance if possible if they didn't have insurance? Nobody paid for it?), and wanted to save the taxpayers of Wasilla less than $2 per year that it would have cost to do the right thing. And this is a myth why? Because they felt that the criminal should ultimately pay for the cost? What prevented the courts in Wasilla from ordering restitution for the cost of the kit? Was there some sort of law that said they were not able to? Snort!
Once again the Rethuglicans have proven themselves to be the good old boy club that they are.
And I'm sure McSame won't mind. He thinks rape is funny and surrounds himself with more good old boys that feel the same way.
As his friend Clayton Williams said, “As long as it’s inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it.”
Truly despicable!
And just remember, just because Palin is female, it doesn't make her any less of a good old boy.
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