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AMERICAblog: More on Edwards endorsing Obama

  • AngelaChanning · 1 year ago
    While this is a promising development, I cannot help but wonder if John Edwards could have made a difference had he campaigned in WV for Obama. What also is worrisome is how the corporate media keep harping that no Democrat has won the White House without winning WV. Don't we hear that about a lot of states? It just sounds like analysis pulled out of someone's ass, but I could be wrong. LOL. Thank you for listening.
  • blackwolf · 1 year ago
    This is even better if you look at in the vein of "timing". His endorsement of Obama will hit the 6' o'clock news and drown out the fanfare of Hillarys "big" win.
  • Pangolin · 1 year ago
    The media is flinging monkey shit at Obama every chance they get and Edwards isn't going to change that one bit. They are going to focus on the "Obama can't win" mantra every hour of every day from now until November 3rd.

    If the American people are stupid enough to vote for McCain despite the financial ass-kicking and full feed of outright lies from the media they will deserve the continued disaster that will result.

    Four more years of Republican rule and the average American voter will wish they had been born in Sichuan, China. At least there when you're in trouble somebody tries to help.
  • bunnyjump · 1 year ago
    OT

    Yesterday: Conyers threatens Bush with impeachment.
    http://www.apj.us/index.php?option=com_content&...
    OK, looks like a shot over the bow to Bush.

    Today (via Chi Trib): Chicago City Council considering to oppose invasion of Iran...."an array of academics and activists suggested Tuesday that a US attack on Iran was imminent".
    Uhh......is anybody else getting worried about this?
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Angela Channing:
    Don't we hear that about a lot of states?


    Yes.....no Democrat has won the White House without carrying Minnesota since 1912 (it went for Teddy Roosevelt's Bull Moose party)
    Obama won Minnesota

    http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives...
  • Butch1 · 1 year ago
    It's about time. What in the world was he waiting for, this race has been over for quite awhile. Maybe, more will decide enough is enough, with Ms. Clinton saying it's not over yet.
  • Jim Olson · 1 year ago
    Oh, ferchrissake. Will someone just take Hillary out behind the barn and 'splain things to her?
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    If Edwards' endorsement had come before WV voted, it might or might not have made a different since Edwards got 7% of the vote, and you can't be sure that those people would have voted for Obama. Fact is, people in WV are sort of wierd Dems...they like big govt (as long as money is coming to them), but retain their racism in a 95% white state. They would probably make pretty good communists or fascists.
  • KISSman · 1 year ago
    Better late than never. If he had endorsed him on other days, I might have been grumbled about it a little more since it has taken so long to happen. But since it will eclipse Hillary's 40-point victory in West Virginia as a news story and seem a lot more significant to the TV pundants, I'll take it. Honestly, I can't think of worse news for the Clinton campaign. LOL
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    hah
    Republicans are running scared:

    This from Nat'l Review:

    Mark Levin Starts His Show with "Positive Advice" [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

    My advice to conservatives: Cut your ties from the Republican party. Cut your ties to the McCain campaign. Run on principle.. it's all you have... If you follow these other Republicans, you will go down.
  • Pangolin · 1 year ago
    "Run on principle.. it's all you have... If you follow these other Republicans, you will go down."

    Run on principle? The only principle I know of that applies to the GOP is the one that goes: "As long as you're screwing your neighbors wife, you might as well bill him for your time."

    I think they'll go with their usual formula; lies and misdirection.
  • zavlin · 1 year ago
    from clinton's blitz interview : "it would be a grave error not to vote for mccain...*pauses and corrects herself*"
  • donotmakemecomedownthere · 1 year ago
    The final nail in the coffin, at last. I hope Hillary packed her mourning pantsuit.
  • Pangolin · 1 year ago
    If that wasn't a silver nail she's coming back.
  • blackwolf · 1 year ago
    I'm in total agreement. Edwards will send a strong signal because he has strong appeal to hard-working-middle-class workers in the key swing states.
  • KerrynowCampau · 1 year ago
    I wish he would have done it sooner, but I like his timing. Hillary can't really claim momentum after last nights win now.
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Brian Wms interviewing HRC was all I, I, I, I, I, me, me, me, me, me, ad infinitum, then a switch to we, we, we, we, we.

    "I'm the greatest thing since sliced bread."
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Cafferty just now:

    "turn out the lights...the party's over....time for the song"
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    lol...the fat lady is warming up
  • Ekim · 1 year ago
    Yo, John, what did you think of Modo's column this morning?
  • Coming Undone · 1 year ago
    The Hillary supporters are so mad that they Edwards and NARAL are endorsing Obama, that they just might vote against their own interests and vote for McCain and I blame Hillary for whipping them up into this frenzy that she is being treated unfairly and the men are against her.

    Hillary needs to just be honest for once and bring her campaign to a decent end. Hillary is making these women and herself out to be victims. I cannot understand their hatred for Obama, he never publicly humiliated her, he never cheated on her.
    Now the Hillary supporters are upset because Obama said sweetie or something like that to a reporter. Her supporters of course are calling him all kind of names, but they still love Bill, the man that constantly cheated on Hillary but the man the family man of course is the sexist pig.

    For the sake of all women not just the Hillary supporters, she needs to bring this to and end a peaceful end because if she continues like this only gives credibility to the woman scorned theory.
  • Pangolin · 1 year ago
    The most violently misandric feminists are all shillin for Hillary. They just don't seem to get it that the same Democratic base that was out in the streets in the millions marching against the war isn't easily going to forgive her vote FOR the war. That's the base of the anti-Hillary vote and it builds from there. It's not about her gender.
  • donotmakemecomedownthere · 1 year ago
    She is not fat! She's Rodhamesque.
    )
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    lol...if it's Hillary's swan song....it counts !!
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Wow...Obama is fired up !!!!
  • PeteWa · 1 year ago
    The timing for this is great. Although I still wish he would have endorsed Obama weeks ago.
  • blksista · 1 year ago
    Damn. Elizabeth is NOT on board. Yet.
  • zavlin · 1 year ago
    Still waiting for edwards to mention obama.....
  • zavlin · 1 year ago
    There we go, finally a mention
  • Coming Undone · 1 year ago
    Busboy, being a woman does not automatically give you credibility on all womens issues. Bill Clinton did not know squat about reproductive rights or workplace rights.
    Hillary has not worked all her life on womens issues but women are confusing being a woman with being for women. I think Edwards and Obama would work harder for women than Hillary.

    Ask any woman not all female ob/gyn doctors are better than male ob/gyn doctors.
  • KerrynowCampau · 1 year ago
    NPR had a journalism professor on who was saying that the media is "rushing Clinton out of the race"

    I can barely stand them anymore (NPR).
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    Slightly OT... not much though...

    this is interesting:

    Hillary Clinton on Wednesday reiterated her vow to stay in the Democratic presidential race, but she said it would be a "terrible mistake" for her supporters to vote for John McCain over Barack Obama.

    Sen. Hillary Clinton vowed to stay in the race, saying she's "not going anywhere."

    "Anybody who has ever voted for me or voted for Barack has much more in common in terms of what we want to see happen in our country and in the world with the other than they do with John McCain," Clinton said on CNN's "The Situation Room."


    hey hillbots... sorry if our blog ragging is pissing you off.

    but think about this... is it worth destroying the country because you're mad??
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    Lieberman: Hillary's Threat To Bomb Iran Has A Certain Appeal To It
    http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/14/lieberman-b...
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    Hillary Clinton is at home with her supporters begging for more cash. I hope they don't have the TV on! LOL

  • houstonray · 1 year ago
    Wow, Edwards' speech was great. You know my dream ticket a year ago was Edwards/Obama. Wouldn't that have been amazing? 8 years of Edwards and then 8 more years of Obama?

    Well, I'll take 8 years of Obama and I know Edwards will have a place in the administration anyway...
  • Coming Undone · 1 year ago
    I am sick of people says the boys are ganging up on her. Is she tough or just a delicate flower?
  • Pangolin · 1 year ago
    Beef jerky isn't as tough as Hillary. Shoe leather is more palatable though.
  • Jim Olson · 1 year ago
    Would Dobbs and Toobin STFU! What bloviating nonsense. Fortunately, they are replaying it on C-SPAN.
  • moreleesafer · 1 year ago
    still singing:

    Ding Dong the witch is dead.
    Which old witch?
    The wicked witch.
    Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead.
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    Lou Dobbs is a jerk.

    I LOVE seeing him so upset because MI and FL are not going to be allowed to vote. Fake Teeth makes him look even FAKER - with a Made In China flag. Too funny!
  • Captain_America · 1 year ago
    Man I miss Edwards. What a great speech. Obama/Edwards? Now THERE'S an amazingly inspiring dream ticket. Hillary has become such a negative force with her campaigning the past few months, I feel like any combination with her and Obama damages Obama's credibility.
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    I liked Edwards' metaphor about knocking down "the wall" around the govt. and the people taking it back (take that, Ronnie). He was gracious about Clinton, too, and hope she gets the message for unity in the party.
  • Rainlion · 1 year ago
    He shouldn't have waited this long, let alone the extra days after his Live TV gaffe over the weekend where he admitted that Obama was his choice
  • Joni · 1 year ago
    That photo gives me a boner.
  • pcvirginiabeach · 1 year ago
    Do his delegates go to Obama?
  • houstonray · 1 year ago
    "FunMe" you had me cracking up about the 'fake teeth' comment. Everytime I see Lou Dobbs I keep thinking, what is wrong with his teeth? I wondered if I was the only one. Yeah, it's like he put in someone else's teeth, anyone seen his wife lately? ha

    I would love Edwards as a VP but I think he's ruled that out many many times. Had he not run in 2004, I bet he would be the VP this time around but I think he's got the old "been there/done that" albatross hanging around his neck. But that's ok, I know he will be a tireless supporter of Obama and he'll have a place at the table, I'm hoping Attorney General.
  • lov446 · 1 year ago
    Lou Dobbs has grinning teeth!
  • BorninUSA · 1 year ago
    First: Does Pat Buchanan think we are all deaf? I sure get tired of his neverending yelling and constantly interrupting and having to have the last word. He will be so disappointed if he doesn't get it "right" and if everyone doesn't agree with him. And now Buchanan says the "boys" are ganging up on Clinton. He is such a fraud. BTW, why is he considered such an expert? Can you imagine what the conversation must be like around the dinner table when Pat and Bay are both there? OMG!

    Second: Why doesn't anyone ask Buchanan, Matthews, et al what they would say if the situation was reversed. If Obama didn't stand a chance to win but said he was going to stay in the race Clinton would be yelling bloody murder for him to quit. Maybe this has been discussed before but it is a point that needs to be talked about. Hillary will not quit! Hillary will not quit! I repeat: She will have to be drug off kicking and screaming from the stage at Convention. Bill will turn red and his head will explode. He had better watch it, his heart is not in perfect shape. Too much excitement is not good.
  • Chimpeach · 1 year ago
    why does Buchanan have that high girly voice? It really grates on me.
  • houstonray · 1 year ago
    I know people hate it when someone says "have you seen Drudge" (and I personally don't like him either) but his headlines do (unfortunately in most cases) influence what a lot of people think. He has a pic of Obama/Edwards and the blaring headling "THE TICKET?"

    I wonder what he's trying to stir up?
  • LanceThruster · 1 year ago
    I am so trying not to gloat as Dems need to start working on unifying the party but I can't help smiling now that it looks as if Bunker Betty might finally see the writing on the wall.

    However, it's important to remember that it ain't over till the lady in the pantsuit stops writing herself checks to keep funding her death march.
  • BorninUSA · 1 year ago
    Jeebus! Buchanan shut up!! Please. Someone stick a sock (fist) in his mouth.
  • DastiusKrazitauc · 1 year ago
    No kidding. Whew! Why does MSNBC give this racist such prominence? Is it for their conservative bona fides? That was nasty with him defending the racists at the polls. Although he didn't use the words, he practically called Chris Matthews a "n---r lover".
  • stefanzo · 1 year ago
    I have a thought about his timing: If he had endorsed Obama *before* West Virginia, Obama still would have lost there to Clinton by a large margin. That would have diminished the sense of momentum that Edward's endorsement brings. By endorsing Obama *after* WV, the Obama campaign generates huge enthusiasm moving forward.

    The Obama campaign had to be aware that WV would be a possible stumbling point, and they needed to get past it without completely imploding.

    I doubt this was planned from the beginning, but Edward's timing is almost perfect.
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Well, it wouldn't be so off-base for Obama to consider Edwards. After all, when Obama has served his 2 terms, Edwards still will only be about 60, and not too old to segueway straight from VP to Prez...even though he's already had a shot. It isn't unheard of.

    Yeah, I'd still go for that.
  • MorgaineSwann · 1 year ago
    Wow - that couldn't have been timed better to quash Hillary's victory dance. Obama and Edwards do look lovely together - that's a ticket I could really get behind. They cover a lot of territory together, and Edwards could alleviate at least some of the problem with the bigot vote - let's face it, that's what Hillary has.

    The whole sexism issue is out of hand. There IS a lot of misogyny being directed at Hillary, but she has earned a lot of spite with the way she has conducted herself. I never imagined that she and Bill would race-bait the way they have. The Hillary advocates are taking it too far, though. People aren't opposing Hillary because she's female. They're opposing her because she'a entitiled and untrustworthy. Everybody keeps talking about the work she's done for women - what has she done for the women exploited by Walmart while she sat on their board? She's hardcore DC establishment and people are sick of it. Barack represents a potential for radical change (though not as radical as I'd like) and people are ripe for it. I'm praying for a sling shot effect from the tragedy that was the Bush administration. Barack could be the backlash that comes from all the conservative excesses since Reagan.
  • hallam · 1 year ago
    The timing will have been worked out in advance with both campaigns.

    Hillary can't withdraw after a blow out win. And she would have still won if she had withdrawn last week. And the Edwards endorsement would not have been news if she had withdrawn in any case.

    The superdelegates are clearly being told when to endorse and its being calculated for maximum media effect.

    Hillary can't withdraw until Gore has disclosed who he is backing.

    People really need to relax round here - a lot.
  • lovepeaceandallthat · 1 year ago
    Why can't she quit after winning WV? If Hillary had her heart in the right place she wouldn't be so calculating. Instead, she would realize she is hurting the party and the country as a whole, and she would simply concede. Of course, if her heart was in the right place she would have done that weeks ago and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

    It all comes back to the question "WHY is she staying in?". What are her intentions, her goals? What has been promised to her if she stays in? What does she know that we don't know (a lot, I am sure). Who's bidding is she doing? What is she covering up? Exactly why does she want to be president so bad? What is going on under that table over there?

    Whatever she is up to, it isn't good. I have come to not care at all when she quits, just that she LOSES the nomination- and hopefully her reputation and future prospects as well. She is such a fool. She has been forced to show a lot of her cards and hopefully she will show more.
  • Hermione · 1 year ago
    Dear lord I hope Obama doesn't pick the 'Breck girl'. Remember, Edwards played a little game by not endorsing Obama earlier and tried to reserved a spot with both Barack and the witch Billary. I don't trust him. Plus the Republicans will have a field day mocking the 'Breck girl' if he is part of the ticket. I think it's a horrible choice.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Has Emily's List attacked Edwards yet?
  • sweetauntfanny · 1 year ago
    A co-worker just came up to me and asked if I'd heard the news that Edwards was endorsing Obama. I said, yes, and told her how thrilled I was.

    She then said: "But I thought he was going to wait until it was all over."

    My response was to cock my eyebrow. She smiled and nodded in agreement.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Dear lord I hope Obama doesn't pick the 'Breck girl'. Remember, Edwards played a little game by not endorsing Obama earlier and tried to reserved a spot with both Barack and the witch Billary. I don't trust him. Plus the Republicans will have a field day mocking the 'Breck girl' if he is part of the ticket. I think it's a horrible choice.

    ----

    I don't think Edwards is the best choice for Obama either--I like Webb or Wes Clark--but I think Edwards has done alot ot eliminate his pretty boy image from 2004 and has become a populist hero in some circles. I'm surprised by some of the people--my 80 year old Repub father, for one--who were Edwards fans before he dropped out.
  • MorgaineSwann · 1 year ago
    Can we please stop calling Hillary a "witch" - you really mean to say "bitch" anyway.
  • Catman51 · 1 year ago
    Would someone please tell Hillary to "Step Aside"
  • gonzalez · 1 year ago
    It will be slow coming. You have to understand that some of these delegates are the spineless people in Congress and they will do nothing unless there is something there for them. What gutless idiots!
  • JustAnOldLady · 1 year ago
    I'm so proud to call North Carolina home........
  • ogie51 · 1 year ago
    ...a word about the location, it's significance, and it's unusually huge turnout;

    Grand Rapids, Michigan is a bastion for the Republicans and has been for decades. The home of Gerald Ford, AMWAY, Steelcase, and the AMWAY family of conservative rich folks, Richard DeVos and Jay VanAndel for whom the arena Barack spoke at was named....it's ALWAYS a 65% victory for the Republicans in the House of Representatives in this district...so to see a turnout of the magnitude that appeared in Grand Rapids today was a full and fantastic surprise.

    The arena seats 12,000, and it was standing room only, with several hundred outside listening. The Fire Marshall had to close the doors and not allow anyone in as it was dangerously approaching the boundaries of safety in terms of volume of people inside. The local NBC affiliate showed the entire speech and talked with local residents afterward and it was amazing to see the spark in their eyes, the bounce in their steps, but the sheer volume of people coming out to support a Democrat in this town, in the county, unheard of...ever in my 57 years!

    Way to go Grand Rapids!
  • LawMichigander · 1 year ago
    It was awesome. I was at the event with my boyfriend, we live right down the street from the arena. We waited in line not too long because we got there early. It was his first event like that, my last for for Bush in 2000 (don't ask lets just say prior to coming out). There was well over 10,000 people there and we were doing the wave. It is really cool to see Edwards, someone whom I admire and voted for in the 2004 Primary come and endorse Obama. I think Hillary just lost those working class people she had gained in West Virginia.

    I know the GR area is very Republican, the city itself has gone democratic in recent elections, Gore in 2000 for example.
  • SociologistTina · 1 year ago
    Great post, great quote.

    I voted for Edwards, and I still have the bumper sticker on the back of my old junker car to prove it.

    I'm glad he finally came through for me, for us, for the country. And not a moment too soon!
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    Now I remember why Edwards was my 1st choice.

    Obama/Edwards
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    You can attribute a big part of Hillary's defeat to her husband. Bill was deserted by Democratic women who normally love a rounder (unless it's their own husband) and went for the tall dark and handsome stranger instead.
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Edwards may actually wind up on the ticket. Always a bridesmaid, never a bride.... He has the smarts on things of which Obama hasn't a clue. Also he's from a big KKK stronghold, which might get the ticket some yellow dog votes
  • blackwolf · 1 year ago
    Good call, I was thinking along those same lines Busboy. He could be the one to sew it up for OB-man.
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Looks like a team.
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Whoa, Granny, the fat lady hasn't sung yet. Where is sweet monica these days anyway?
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    It won't count if she doesn't wear her thong.......
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Coming undone, look at it from Hillary's point of view. She's worked for this all of her life and she's been brought down by a kid from the south side of Chicago who doesn't know squat about what it was like to get women reproductive rights, workplace rights and equal pay (a work in progress). The Hillary supporters aren't upset; they're "foaming at the mouth crazy".