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Mother Fucker George Bush
You'd have to. The only way to collect the vast amounts of information they seemed to be collecting, was to collect all of it, and then filter/sort/separate it in to 'actionable' information and other.
And of course a lot of this inforation was being skimed off backbone telecommunication lines, where it's being tranmitted not even as voice anymore, but just lots of 1s and 0s. So to even figure out what it is, you have to put it back together and examine it.
so... when does someone decide the wiretaps were illegal? I mean, did they have any proof (outside their views that the MSM had a liberal bias) of any terrorist plot?
isn't that their excuse for the wiretaps?
and if so, when can we start tracing back to who gave the orders? this is a country of LAWS... for EVERYONE.
I'm starting to feel that anger that left on Tuesday coming back.
This is why Obama lost all my moral support when Obama folded on FISA.
This more so than Iraq, gay rights, torture, Guantanomo, politicization of DOJ, whatever etc... is the most important issue of the day.
Harry Reid has a "land deal" questioned and the GOP gets everything they want in the Senate. Nancy Pelosi has a "land deal" problem hit the papers and it's "impeachment is off the table". Care to guess about those coincidences now?
And, amazingly, right before Bush leaves office, the GOP IT guru dies in a plane crash on his way to DC?
Right... allll tinfoil hat stuff... because our government doesn't lie, it never breaks the law, and those in power never, EVER, abuse it. EVER!
Cheney was a Nixon understudy. Don't forget that.
Just think of all of the situations in the last 8 years that were pertinant and subject to surveilance; 911, Katrina, DAN RATHER, Christiane Amanpour, and you KNOW they were just sittin' back laughing listening to Kucinich and Conyers lose their cool(s).
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Exec...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Exec...
http://thefoiablog.typepad.com/the_foia_blog/20...
...and get this satellite photo of the inauguration:
http://www.geoeye.com/CorpSite/gallery/detail.a...
Finally, CIA Director Hayden thinks that there's nothing particularly interesting about waterboarding:
https://www.cia.gov/news-information/press-rele...
HAYDEN: The question of waterboarding is kind of an uninteresting question for CIA. It's not something we have done for nearly six years now. We've made very public that it was done on three individuals.
Ok. We tortured people. But... but... it was only THREE people we tortured!
HAYDEN: Right. He had a chance this past weekend, in responding to some questions, to talk about looking forward and looking backward. And I think he was quite appropriately -- and certainly very heartening to this Agency - talking about looking forward. Catherine, look at the circumstances. The Agency was asked to do certain things. The Agency, in a sense, was thrown into the breach, when it comes to interrogating Al-Qaida. There was overall agreement that the nation was at great risk. There was overall agreement that these techniques would work. And they did. Now, honest men can differ about whether or not they wanted to do this or not, but you can't dismiss the fact that the techniques worked and led to critical, life-saving information. So the Agency stepped up. But it stepped up out of a sense of duty, not out of enthusiasm.
Ok. We tortured people. But... but... we didn't ENJOY doing it!
HAYDEN: Sure. The Army Field Manual was designed for certain purposes, and certain skills and certain circumstances. It was designed for a certain kind of detainee, it was designed for a certain kind of interrogator, it was designed to elicit or induce certain kinds of information. If the nation decides that is what it wants to be its limits, it really has to give us that direction in some sort of authoritative statement - an executive order or legislation. But before we did that, I think the nation needs to understand that no one claims that the Army Field Manual exhausts the universe of lawful interrogation techniques. And so I think there is some merit in having a discussion, as we look at what the Army Field Manual is and what the larger universe is - and if we decide that, "Outside the Army Field Manual is lawful but I still don't want to do it," or, "Outside the Field Manual, lawful, I think we ought to consider it." But that is a logical dialogue. That is what I think we should do. Now, to emphasize something. The Agency will do what it is told. It will respect the limits that it is given. And I need to emphasize this, with the occasional comment about a "rogue agency" and so on. These are very law-abiding, patriotic Americans.
Ok. We tortured people. But... But... we are PATRIOTIC AMERICANS and are LAW ABIDING torturers!!!!
Gods... put Hayden to the Hague with Bush and Rumsfeld!
Motherfuckers.
On one hand I hope they found my E-Mails tedious and disgusting. On the other hand I want someone to GO TO JAIL a good long time for this. This massive compound Crime is so big it's beyond "no one can go to jail over it'" but that MANY people MUST go to jail (Federal Prison) for this.
Kinda ironic - I was initially attracted to Americablog after the outing of Rove's whore "Jeff Gannon," who was discovered because of his monumental stupidity composing documents and registering domains using easily traceable personal information. All publicly accessible if one knew where to look. Imagining what the NSA could do from the other side in nanoseconds to anybody and everybody requires no imagination nor exaggeration.
Senator Obama might have been able to vote for a FISA bill of dubious morality, for whatever reasons, and go with the flow, again for whatever reasons, but I don't see how President Obama has ANY choice pursuing this to it's ugly end.
The gentleman described one search parameter as a compilation of all calls lasting under one minute which, once recorded were individually analyzed...
It's not like we didn't suspect though. With all the other abuses of power after 9/11 (yes, it was a coincidence that Ted Kennedy was on a terrorist no fly list [/sarcasm]), this one was almost taken as a given. it's sad though when it's corroborated. it'll be great however when it's prosecuted.
Im sure you'll find the guy who authorized this also spout some spiel about wanting to ferret out "real American's" from apparently "terrorists", "pinko's", "commies" "liberals" "socialists" or whatever other catch-phrase these fascist retards unearth from the depths of their assholes to justify decidedly illegal UNAMERICAN activities.
W
They were and are the most craven people in the world. They easily understood that Bush was a pathological bully, and if they didn't tow the line their access would be cut off - which meant their corporate employers would fire them.
They towed the line. They opened their mouths and swallowed the phallic monster.
Now this.
The most fascist tendencies of the Bush administration were in the areas of 'message control'. This saved them from ever having to implement a single sound policy. They could crap on the American people and the Media would declare it gold.
And the Bush Administration knew who wasn't coddling to them.
I wonder if any stories will pop up where a journalist inexplicably lost access necessary to do their job.