AMERICAblog: NBC's Chuck Todd, et.al.: "The left-wing blogosphere is MUCH more powerful than what you see on the right this cycle"
grandma
· 1 year ago
Wooo hooo.....found our voice is right......and are being heard !!
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Great.
But one thing we forgot during the last outrage:. We have to go after their sponsors too.
They're corporate shills, and they only really listen when we hit them in the wallet.
OleHippieChick
· 1 year ago
Ehhhxcellent. Buwahahahaaaaaaa.
sittenpretty
· 1 year ago
i say fukkkkkkkk Charlie MULTIMILLONAIRE Gibson...sideways.......i hope your taxes go up the wazzzzzzzzooooo you you CHEAP WHORE TELEPROMPTER READER....well not so cheap....and gas is now 3.50 here....thankyou oil oligarchs
grandma
· 1 year ago
very true Bush Bites....
Perhaps it's the color of their glasses: the slightest hint of green. In the age of corporate media, it is in the best interest of the corporations who bring the news to the television-watching masses to keep this primary season alive as long as possible. The longer this goes on, the more media markets see record-breaking spending on advertising, which means great profits for those corporate media entities, which in turn makes them better able to push the theme that there is still a fight for the Democratic presidential nomination.
i got an electric scooter however,hope its safe!!!
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
Imagine that, the left blogosphere has a voice! The left is going to be heard from regardless of networks like ABC, or Nedra Pickler from AP or Nora O'Donnell MSBC. Yes John, without you or Atrios or CL or Huff Post or dKos and many more, we would NOT have a say in what is happening. All this hype about a "liberal media" is crap. Maybe a long, long time ago the media was liberal but not anymore, it has a definite right wing slant. Without the left bloggers there would be no fairness of issues, there would only be what the media wants you to know.
I salute all of you.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Hillary on attack again today:
“Being asked tough questions in a debate is nothing like the pressures you face inside the White House,” Mrs. Clinton said in an interview with the Fox News affiliate in Philadelphia. “In fact, when the going gets tough, you just can’t walk away because we’re going to have some very tough decisions that we have to make. I think we need a president who can take whatever comes your way.”
She added, “That goes with the territory, having been inside the White House, I know the pressures inside the White House, I know how hard it is every single day.”
Shrillary wil go down punching,kicking and screaming,ITS MY OFFICE,its my right,and ITS MY TURN...Bill promissed.......lol
gonzalez
· 1 year ago
We can't let the Clintons or the Republicans steal this election. We need to hit them hard and often.
Andrew
· 1 year ago
How insightful a comment is that. You better F^&**ing believe it and we're ready for November!
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Hillary can blow it out her flabby ass.
grandma
· 1 year ago
LOL !!!!!
DCinDC
· 1 year ago
The one problem the democrats have is the fact that they cannot control the MSM. The GOP does an excellent job of controlling the MSM. If the democrats could ever organize their collective power to push the MSM into positions and stories that they want presented then the Democrats would have no problems winning in November.
vwcat
· 1 year ago
this is what the blogs and readers have been building towards. The ability to face off against the media and gop. What this did was make many in the TM and the republicans see what we can and will do if they decide to swiftboat our nominee and play biz as usual. It is not just that people are angry about questions but, the whole mindset of the TM. The focus on the stupid and creating controversies to distract. And the gop playing games. People are simply fed up as a whole. The fact that Obamanation was the ones to unleash the fury yesterday and give a glimpse into what the gop and tm will face and that things have changed and we will fight back.
Smarmy
· 1 year ago
"The Republicans have an amazing ability to turn defeat into victory (and Democrats, the opposite) . . . " And by allowing this endless debating and primarying, we're setting ourselves up for defeat. Now thank Hillary who doesn't have enough common sense to step down.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
True DCinDC.
The Repubs are much more organized.
Wait 'til fall, every Monday you'll see all the Repub Congressmen, Senators and Governors on the talk shows on Monday morning all pushing the same message and using the same phraseology.
The Dems have to develop that kind of message discipline.
jescot
· 1 year ago
Only on the rare occasion does anything get picked up in MSM from the Left Blogosphere BUT if something is on Drudge it gets picked up almost immediatley. Just look at Wednesday's debate etc.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
don't let up.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
jescot 2 minutes ago 1 point Please login to rate.
Only on the rare occasion does anything get picked up in MSM from the Left Blogosphere BUT if something is on Drudge it gets picked up almost immediatley. Just look at Wednesday's debate etc.
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Yeah,
Someone should put together a digest of blog items once or twice a day, and do e-mail blasts to the Corporate Media.
grandma
· 1 year ago
That's right tlsintx
Yes We Can !
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
In fact, the bloggers might want to think about all chipping in to hire a PR person to get their message out beyond the Internet. Or to do it more effectively than it's been done so far.
sittenpretty
· 1 year ago
DCinDC...that will never happen.....General Electric....owns MSNBC,andNBC,they are the WORLDS LARGEST MILITARY contractors....the Corporate media SERVES its corporate masters....they can afford to pay monkies likeGlenn Beck $10,000,000.00 per year,and all the other lice,who have no audience......its about$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ always
grandma
· 1 year ago
Meanwhile.....the President keeps sinking ....the poll of polls gives him 28 %
I wish they showed the chart over his entire tenture.
What you'd see is 50 percent at election, then a sinking, then a huge spike at 9/11, then a steady sinking ever since with a minor uptick back to 50 percent in Nov. 2004, when they were putting everything they had behind his reelection effort.
The guy's been sinking like a rock for 7 years, really. The only thing that saved him was 9/11.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
i wonder if teevee will simply become less and less relevant... one can hope.
jr
· 1 year ago
"bloggers hate the white race"-Hillary
kevinbgoode
· 1 year ago
As long as the MSM uses right wing talking points to manufacture "stories" and "controversy," the American people are going to be at a distinct disadvantage. I no longer view that debate debacle as just a travesty - it was, in my opinion, outright interference in the election process of this country. That interference has been orchestrated by the Right - almost every ridiculous question about flag lapel pins, Rev. Wright, Ayers - originated with the Right wing blowhard machine. ABC eventually picks this crap up and manufactures "stories" about "controversies" - always without attribution - always with the vague "some people believe" or the "many people believe" - it is irresponsible and intentionally manipulative journalism. The network believes the American people don't deserve to know who "many people believe" are - and for a reason - they are the Right wing spin machine. The fact that George borrowed a question from Sean Hannity and then used a woman (flag lapel question) who had already publicly opposed Obama in the New York Times, indicates the network was searching for any kind of trash talk to throw, and where else are they going to find it than the originator of rumor and innuendo, the Right wing spin machine?
The American people deserve better from media using the public airwaves than to be held hostage to sensationalized bullshit manufactured by conservative fringe groups which encourage skepticism and division in this country. It is that same bullshit that delivered this country to the land of George Bush - a disaster of such magnitude on so many levels that this period will be forever remembered as the beginning of the decline of the United States of America.
AdrianBrowne
· 1 year ago
I predict that for the next election cycle the Republicans will use direct mind control-microchip implantation and/or the threat of bodily harm.
AdrianBrowne
· 1 year ago
And saying that the ABC debate questions were necessary because "That's what they're gonna be asking in the Fall" is like saying "My husband is going to beat me so I better just learn to take punches."
kevinbgoode
· 1 year ago
Exactly, Adrian. When ABC used that tawdry defense for their bullshit debate performance, they were basically telling us the Republicans are scum, but there isn't anything anyone can do about that - like they can't possibly ask the GOP any "tough" questions about why they are acting like scum. They can ask about patriotism with one of our candidates based on some manufactured flag pin bullshit, but they are incapable of confronting a Republican and asking why it is necessary for them to campaign on division and fear-and-smear in order to win elections, nor can they question their patriotism for campaigning in that manner. To me, that says it all.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Ah, here you go.
The story of a president whose entire political success is based on his letting 19 guys with box cutters into the country.
You said you want to analyze why the left is stronger than than the right blogosphere. Consider this, years ago there you are a Democrat sitting at home or in your car listening to the media. Someone on radio or TV makes a blatant non-truthful statement. You are furious, but who can you talk too? Who will listen to the outrage? Enter the net and enter the blogs. Finally, an outlet where other people have heard and are also upset. No one in the press or print media or TV will address the wrongness but the blogs will. The blogs have provided a source for righting wrong, for venting but mainly for listening and taking your message to thousands of people denied a voice. That is why the left is strong, we were forced to be strong, no one else would listen, no one would be fair.
kevinbgoode the PROPAGANDA media were held accountable in post warGermany,and some were hung as traitors....true dat
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
I've appreciated Todd's knowledge of the vote these last few months but I was terminally miffed at his wholesale swallowing of the Ayers nonsense Wednesday evening...Silly me for not being glued to Hannity's radio show. I'd also appreciate more details on the "to put it simply, ABC was under siege yesterday" remark...staffers set afire, executive deballed, ect...
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
tlsintx 7 minutes ago 1 point Please login to rate.
i wonder if teevee will simply become less and less relevant... one can hope.
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Certainly the Networks will be less relevant.
Most of their audience is geriatric.
However, the Repubs do have Right Wing Radio, which is very powerful and part of the reason the Wingnut blogs never caught on, other than Drudge. That, combined with Fox Noise, is a major megaphone.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
.;...staffers set afire, executive deballed, ect...
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I like your thinking.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
we were forced to be strong, no one else would listen, no one would be fair.
Exactly. I fondly think back to various remarks on the old Media Horse website and how they've come to be this year. What a long, strange trip its been...
kevinbgoode
· 1 year ago
Christ...we just had another earthquake aftershock. . .
LeslieB
· 1 year ago
Kevinbgoode 14 minutes ago Christ...we just had another earthquake aftershock. . .
Are you in the Midwest? Just read you had a 5.something earthquake. I'm from Los Angeles originally, so I know what those are like. Hope everyone is OK?
ralphbon
· 1 year ago
This would be the same Mr Astute who swooned a couple of weeks ago at all the foreign policy expertise John McCain has "in the bank." Forgive me for not getting too worked up on the two instances per day when one of these stopped clocks tells the right time.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Hannity Boasts Of Influence Over Stephanopoulos: ‘I Suggested The Question’»
“Now of course, the liberal blogs are losing their minds in part because I suggested the question to George Stephanopoulos Tuesday afternoon on my radio show,” Hannity proudly declared last night.
The Los Angeles Times reports, “Stephanopoulos dismissed the idea that he was doing Hannity’s bidding. ‘The questions we asked were tough and fair and appropriate and relevant and what you would expect to be asked in a presidential debate at this point,’ he said. ‘The questions we asked…are being debated around the political world every day.’” Certainly in Hannity’s world.
ot ...uh oh Pentagon Institute: War in Iraq is a 'Major Debacle' by SusanG Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 06:45:03 AM PDT The National Defense Institute, identified by McClatchy as the Pentagon's "premier educational institute," came out with a sobering assessment (PDF) of the Iraq war yesterday:
"Measured in blood and treasure, the war in Iraq has achieved the status of a major war and a major debacle," says the report's opening line.
It pretty much goes downhill from there:
The report said that the United States has suffered serious political costs, with its standing in the world seriously diminished. Moreover, operations in Iraq have diverted "manpower, materiel and the attention of decision-makers" from "all other efforts in the war on terror" and severely strained the U.S. armed forces.
"Compounding all of these problems, our efforts there (in Iraq) were designed to enhance U.S. national security, but they have become, at least temporarily, an incubator for terrorism and have emboldened Iran to expand its influence throughout the Middle East," the report continued.
sittenpretty
· 1 year ago
kevinbgoode oopsie good luck,stay safe
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
Remember James Carville branded Bill Richardson a "Judas" for backing Obama over Clinton. Hmmm....I wonder if Carville had the same conversation with George Sarcophagus before Tuesday's debate. The Clintons are notorious for playing hardball to wrangle support from former staffers. During the debate, Sarcophagus said Obama had to explain his relationship with his former "mentor" pastor Wright, well Sarcophagus, explain your relationship with your former mentor, president Clinton.
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
Prepare for the Landslide Punitive Election of 2008.
OneManComotion
· 1 year ago
I find that I pinch myself more often then I can remember. With the real success of Obama and the power of the people that the Internet has been able to tap, I find myself abandoning my own insecurities as well my complacent feelings for the direction that the country seems to have moved over the past 8 years. I have always thought myself to be just average when it comes to communicating my thoughts thru words. Weather that is true or not I feel, thru my connection to the blogs, that I have become connected to something that is monumental in scope and power for the average person that has helped me personally. I am a better person, by far, for participating in this form of democracy.
LeslieB
· 1 year ago
Uh, it wasn't just the "ObamaNation" reacting to the debate. What is Chuck Todd basing his assumption on? Did someone poll ABC viewers/viewer complainees to find out whether they supported Clinton or Obama?
I read a lot of those comments and there were Republicans and Democrats reacting to the debate. Of the Democrats, I couldn't tell how many supported Obama or Clinton. So how does Chuck Todd know?
I think what's happening is that a lot of people, no matter who they support, are FED UP with the way the corporate media reports the news, emphasizing the trivial and trying to initiate meaningless spats for ratings. People are dying, people are losing their homes and jobs, more people are on food stamps than ever...and the media is focused on lapel pins. I don't think it has anything to do with voting for Obama or Clinton.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
In a future post, I'll try to analyze why this is.
I look forward to that...I'm familiar with some names (mostly from C-SPIN's infatuation with winger bloggers) like Red State and Little Green Footballs but I've never visited the sites and would never have an interest in anything mentioned there. I don't want to limit myself but I just have no patience for winger jibber-jabber after all these fisk-filled years...anyway, we're almost at the mountaintop. I'm enjoying DVR just to be able to FF through cable news BS to reach the occasional buried nugget...lots less headache pain and a great pointer finger workout.
Upland_Oddball
· 1 year ago
If there is one strength the Left Blogosphere has that is virtually missing from the right, it is that the left is better connected to a more universal, or more global standard of what advanced human civilization offers around the world. We on the left know have a factual basis for knowing that our publlic healthcare system in the US is a pathetic nightmare compared to what is available in France or Germany. We know that in much of Europe, the Pope's visit would not stir up such a wave of nauseous hypocrisy and convenient amnesia vis-a-vis Benedict's Nezi past or his reaactionary theology. When we enter the Left Bogosphere, those of us from small towns and distant suburbs enter into a cosmopolitan world, an Ecumene such as existed in the great cities of the Hellenistic period. On the other hand, when anyone enters the Right Blogosphere, he or she enters a petty, provincial, and stultified small town of the worst sort. The window that Wlm F. Buckley Jr attempted to open has closed once again. Today, as John Stuart Mill once said: "Not All conservatives are stupid people, but all stupid people are conservative." That may not be true of the rank and file, but it seems on target when it comes to the public face of conservatism.
Belinda
· 1 year ago
The Politico.com and DrudgeReport.com have both had some great breaking stories about Billary scandals. Chuck Todd is very astute in sensing the frustration of the voters. If Obama is denied his nomination, and it is stolen by Shillary, the DNC will have essentially handed the Presidency to McCain. Almost every Obama supporter I know would never in their most desperate time vote for that witch Hillary. If she buys off the superdelegates than we will sit out the election and hand it to McCain. That is the only way the DNC will learn a lesson.
VJBinCT
· 1 year ago
You ought to be careful about the coinage 'ObamaNation'. It is way too close to 'obomination' and you know those in the right wing will run with it should they be students of wordplay. I take that last back: it's here already http://www.google.com/search?q=obomination&ie=u...
stefanzo
· 1 year ago
As I was posting a complaint on the ABC website, I saw MANY other complaints as well. I had a sad feeling that this would be interpreted by ABC as a "left-wing conspiracy", and the fact that people actually hated the questions would be completely ignored.
Suggestion: when you direct people someplace to comment, don't post a direct link that lets the target site just dismiss them because they are coming from the "angry left". There might be a tool to do this...? You'd want credit for some links of course, but not all. This is NOT hiding, but rather letting the content of the commentary through without it being dismissed because of the messenger.
I also saw quite a few posts from Clinton supporters, attacking those who disliked the debate as "Obamabots". How insultingly dismissive!
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
aquarius2 and others have said it well...
the internet and blogs like Ablog have allowed people to participate, to talk back when we disagree instead of just sitting here taking it, to sign petitions and make concerted efforts to contact entities and lawmakers who before, held all the power and could simply ignore individual voices.
and with organizations like MoveOn.org with its millions and millions of participants, we can counter anything winger hate radio/fox noise puts out.
we're not going back. ignore us at your own peril.
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
Wow, the reich-wing bloggers are certified nutcases. Now they claim Obama gave Clinton the "finger". To me it looks like he was scratching his cheek, before he laid a zinger on coordinated the "hit job". [Gasp] The LA Times picked up on it. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008...
Upland_Oddball
· 1 year ago
So to vouch once again for their conservative creeds, Gibson and Stephanopoulos put on their stupid and rubbed it in the face of America. That is what the MSM has to do to remain in good graces to the knuckledragging Right.
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
Is the Pope a member of ObamaNation? Sure looks like he approves of Obama's foreign policy stance. Benedict XVI also spoke out against torture.
The head of the Roman Catholic Church, Pope Benedict XVI, has told the UN in New York that member states should solve the world's crises together. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7354023.stm
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
John, not so fast on Chuck Todd. I remember him from CSPAN before he got his current gig. He was hard on Dems and the left in general.
While he's right on a couple of things in your piece, this is off the wall: "...it reminds us of the advantage Bush had in '04." The advantage Bush has in 04 never came from the internet at all--it came from corporate interests.
Skycat
· 1 year ago
Perhaps the "left-wing blogosphere" is a misnomer. I suggest "the voice of the people."
mirth
· 1 year ago
The one thing the planners of the 2000 coup didn't think through was the Internet. All other bases were covered by the Iraq invasion, which created the "we're at war" myth that gives the authorities extraordinary ability to subvert the constitution and mute a responsible press and drain the treasury and to cow the populace, but they didn't comprehend the internet and its voice-of-the-people power. What is done on Left blogs is, I dare to say, as important as "taking it to the streets."
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But one thing we forgot during the last outrage:. We have to go after their sponsors too.
They're corporate shills, and they only really listen when we hit them in the wallet.
Perhaps it's the color of their glasses: the slightest hint of green. In the age of corporate media, it is in the best interest of the corporations who bring the news to the television-watching masses to keep this primary season alive as long as possible. The longer this goes on, the more media markets see record-breaking spending on advertising, which means great profits for those corporate media entities, which in turn makes them better able to push the theme that there is still a fight for the Democratic presidential nomination.
http://minnesotamonitor.com/showDiary.do?diaryI...
I salute all of you.
“Being asked tough questions in a debate is nothing like the pressures you face inside the White House,” Mrs. Clinton said in an interview with the Fox News affiliate in Philadelphia. “In fact, when the going gets tough, you just can’t walk away because we’re going to have some very tough decisions that we have to make. I think we need a president who can take whatever comes your way.”
She added, “That goes with the territory, having been inside the White House, I know the pressures inside the White House, I know how hard it is every single day.”
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/18/c...
Clinton: Obama's 'walk away'' mentality
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog...
What this did was make many in the TM and the republicans see what we can and will do if they decide to swiftboat our nominee and play biz as usual.
It is not just that people are angry about questions but, the whole mindset of the TM. The focus on the stupid and creating controversies to distract.
And the gop playing games. People are simply fed up as a whole.
The fact that Obamanation was the ones to unleash the fury yesterday and give a glimpse into what the gop and tm will face and that things have changed and we will fight back.
The Repubs are much more organized.
Wait 'til fall, every Monday you'll see all the Repub Congressmen, Senators and Governors on the talk shows on Monday morning all pushing the same message and using the same phraseology.
The Dems have to develop that kind of message discipline.
Just look at Wednesday's debate etc.
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Only on the rare occasion does anything get picked up in MSM from the Left Blogosphere BUT if something is on Drudge it gets picked up almost immediatley.
Just look at Wednesday's debate etc.
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Yeah,
Someone should put together a digest of blog items once or twice a day, and do e-mail blasts to the Corporate Media.
Yes We Can !
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...
Hillary = McCain = Bush
The grassroots stuff is still the most important thing.
There were hardly any positive comments made from anyone about how the debate was run, and the lack of substance.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...
Hillary = McCain = Bush
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I wish they showed the chart over his entire tenture.
What you'd see is 50 percent at election, then a sinking, then a huge spike at 9/11, then a steady sinking ever since with a minor uptick back to 50 percent in Nov. 2004, when they were putting everything they had behind his reelection effort.
The guy's been sinking like a rock for 7 years, really. The only thing that saved him was 9/11.
one can hope.
The fact that George borrowed a question from Sean Hannity and then used a woman (flag lapel question) who had already publicly opposed Obama in the New York Times, indicates the network was searching for any kind of trash talk to throw, and where else are they going to find it than the originator of rumor and innuendo, the Right wing spin machine?
The American people deserve better from media using the public airwaves than to be held hostage to sensationalized bullshit manufactured by conservative fringe groups which encourage skepticism and division in this country. It is that same bullshit that delivered this country to the land of George Bush - a disaster of such magnitude on so many levels that this period will be forever remembered as the beginning of the decline of the United States of America.
To me, that says it all.
The story of a president whose entire political success is based on his letting 19 guys with box cutters into the country.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/6038436.stm
You said you want to analyze why the left is stronger than than the right blogosphere. Consider this, years ago there you are a Democrat sitting at home or in your car listening to the media. Someone on radio or TV makes a blatant non-truthful statement. You are furious, but who can you talk too? Who will listen to the outrage? Enter the net and enter the blogs. Finally, an outlet where other people have heard and are also upset. No one in the press or print media or TV will address the wrongness but the blogs will. The blogs have provided a source for righting wrong, for venting but mainly for listening and taking your message to thousands of people denied a voice. That is why the left is strong, we were forced to be strong, no one else would listen, no one would be fair.
http://thinkprogress.org/attackerman/2008/04/18...
the PROPAGANDA media were held accountable in post warGermany,and some were hung as traitors....true dat
I'd also appreciate more details on the "to put it simply, ABC was under siege yesterday" remark...staffers set afire, executive deballed, ect...
Please login to rate.
i wonder if teevee will simply become less and less relevant...
one can hope.
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Certainly the Networks will be less relevant.
Most of their audience is geriatric.
However, the Repubs do have Right Wing Radio, which is very powerful and part of the reason the Wingnut blogs never caught on, other than Drudge. That, combined with Fox Noise, is a major megaphone.
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I like your thinking.
Exactly.
I fondly think back to various remarks on the old Media Horse website and how they've come to be this year.
What a long, strange trip its been...
Christ...we just had another earthquake aftershock. . .
Are you in the Midwest? Just read you had a 5.something earthquake. I'm from Los Angeles originally, so I know what those are like. Hope everyone is OK?
“Now of course, the liberal blogs are losing their minds in part because I suggested the question to George Stephanopoulos Tuesday afternoon on my radio show,” Hannity proudly declared last night.
The Los Angeles Times reports, “Stephanopoulos dismissed the idea that he was doing Hannity’s bidding. ‘The questions we asked were tough and fair and appropriate and relevant and what you would expect to be asked in a presidential debate at this point,’ he said. ‘The questions we asked…are being debated around the political world every day.’” Certainly in Hannity’s world.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/18/hannity-ste...
Pentagon Institute: War in Iraq is a 'Major Debacle'
by SusanG
Fri Apr 18, 2008 at 06:45:03 AM PDT
The National Defense Institute, identified by McClatchy as the Pentagon's "premier educational institute," came out with a sobering assessment (PDF) of the Iraq war yesterday:
"Measured in blood and treasure, the war in Iraq has achieved the status of a major war and a major debacle," says the report's opening line.
It pretty much goes downhill from there:
The report said that the United States has suffered serious political costs, with its standing in the world seriously diminished. Moreover, operations in Iraq have diverted "manpower, materiel and the attention of decision-makers" from "all other efforts in the war on terror" and severely strained the U.S. armed forces.
"Compounding all of these problems, our efforts there (in Iraq) were designed to enhance U.S. national security, but they have become, at least temporarily, an incubator for terrorism and have emboldened Iran to expand its influence throughout the Middle East," the report continued.
oopsie
good luck,stay safe
I have always thought myself to be just average when it comes to communicating my thoughts thru words. Weather that is true or not I feel, thru my connection to the blogs, that I have become connected to something that is monumental in scope and power for the average person that has helped me personally.
I am a better person, by far, for participating in this form of democracy.
I read a lot of those comments and there were Republicans and Democrats reacting to the debate. Of the Democrats, I couldn't tell how many supported Obama or Clinton. So how does Chuck Todd know?
I think what's happening is that a lot of people, no matter who they support, are FED UP with the way the corporate media reports the news, emphasizing the trivial and trying to initiate meaningless spats for ratings. People are dying, people are losing their homes and jobs, more people are on food stamps than ever...and the media is focused on lapel pins. I don't think it has anything to do with voting for Obama or Clinton.
I look forward to that...I'm familiar with some names (mostly from C-SPIN's infatuation with winger bloggers) like Red State and Little Green Footballs but I've never visited the sites and would never have an interest in anything mentioned there.
I don't want to limit myself but I just have no patience for winger jibber-jabber after all these fisk-filled years...anyway, we're almost at the mountaintop.
I'm enjoying DVR just to be able to FF through cable news BS to reach the occasional buried nugget...lots less headache pain and a great pointer finger workout.
Suggestion: when you direct people someplace to comment, don't post a direct link that lets the target site just dismiss them because they are coming from the "angry left". There might be a tool to do this...? You'd want credit for some links of course, but not all. This is NOT hiding, but rather letting the content of the commentary through without it being dismissed because of the messenger.
I also saw quite a few posts from Clinton supporters, attacking those who disliked the debate as "Obamabots". How insultingly dismissive!
the internet and blogs like Ablog have allowed people to participate, to talk back when we disagree instead of just sitting here taking it, to sign petitions and make concerted efforts to contact entities and lawmakers who before, held all the power and could simply ignore individual voices.
and with organizations like MoveOn.org with its millions and millions of participants, we can counter anything winger hate radio/fox noise puts out.
we're not going back. ignore us at your own peril.
[Gasp]
The LA Times picked up on it.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008...
The head of the Roman Catholic Church, Pope Benedict XVI, has told the UN in New York that member states should solve the world's crises together.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7354023.stm
While he's right on a couple of things in your piece, this is off the wall: "...it reminds us of the advantage Bush had in '04." The advantage Bush has in 04 never came from the internet at all--it came from corporate interests.