DISQUS

caphillprof · 7 months ago

Does anybody have a clue how gay marriage is a threat to white-supremacy?

Gridlock · 7 months ago

Gay people getting married will somehow result in less white babies being born?

pat · 7 months ago

don't forget the 2 attacks on the white house
and the assaults on clinton

wmforr · 7 months ago

It is shocking that this passage has been taken by Rush Limp-bough, Michelle Malkin and others to mean that the government is targeting them. Somehow trying to prevent another Timothy McVeigh from acting out his fantasies is interpreted as attacking the pundits who are egging on the homicidal fringe. Quite clearly a confession that they know exactly what they are doing.

larkohio · 7 months ago

I do think they can do real harm. Many innocents were killed in Okalahoma City. Honestly, I think they hate just because they can, and they have to be better than somebody, or they have no worth. They target people just because they are different. We need to be aware, Fox News is working hard at inflaming these folks. However, they will take NO responsibility for anything if it happens. You know, they report, you decide. Hate mongers all of them!

Older_Wiser · 7 months ago

What's even more disturbing is that many people encourage this, and don't seem to realize that the extremists they believe hijacked airplanes on 9/11 were as rightwing as these loons are. They simply don't see the irony.

Meanwhile, try to get a doctor around here who will treat peripheral vascular disease and will see you right away. My current dr knows I have it, and won't order tests or an MRI to determine the extent (although pain in the legs lying down and chest pains should give him a clue). Medicare patients must wait 2 months or more just to change primary care drs. who might (there's no guarantee) refer them to a vascular specialist. Is it any wonder that people with chest pains go to the emergency room? I"ve just been putting if off and waiting for the heart attack; the fear itself might do the trick. Just another example of the shitty care Americans get on a daily basis.

ShirleyGoodnessanMercy · 7 months ago

So true. Many Americans have third world health care. Cigna and Aetna have turned down vital surgery for me and I may not live too much longer as a result. Apparently my life is not worth $12,000. And my employer eliminated our dental insurance. I might as well be in Bangladesh.

Tsvi · 7 months ago

As someone who lived in Israel at the time of Rabin's assassination, I can tell you that right-wing extremism is dangerous and needs to be dealt with head on. The composite pictures of Obama and Hitler have a chilling resemblance to the composites of Rabin and Arafat that were posted everywhere in the months before November 4, 1995. The voices that warn of the country's destruction and threats to secede, those sound just like those of the right-wing in Israel and the warnings that the settlers in the west bank will form their own state (State of Judea) . I will get really worried when they start framing the argument in religious terms. That's what brought Israel over the line and justified the murder of a Prime Minister.
Sad part is that eventually the assassination brought a succession of electoral victories for the right, and the left never recovered.
If you think this is a cute little protest by folks with no political power, think again. That's what most of Israel thought 13 and a half years ago.

Older_Wiser · 7 months ago

It's not those people, it's the ones behind the protests who will stir the pot and who DO have the power and money to incite and motivate, to elevate even, those who don't have any power but may have the will to commit criminal and seditious acts.

Tsvi · 7 months ago

The out-of-power right wing establishment was very much in the mix back then. One of the most hateful speeches, when surrounded by ecstatic protesters and those Rabin effigies, was given by none other than Benjamin Netanyahu, who now heads the country. After the assassination, Netanyahu had the nerve to claim he had no idea that anybody will actually ACT on his incitement.
All I'm saying is that the silent and sane majority needs to know that bad things can and will happen, if this thing is allowed to proceed.

Zach · 7 months ago

Okay everyone back up a second.

By trying to tie the implications of the DHS report to conservatism at large you're only vindicating the furor the right is exhibiting in response to it.

What this thing's talking about is crazyballs right-wing supremacy type groups using the situation to snare in new recruits, not that FOX News and Limbaugh are going to cause another Timothy McVeigh.

Now, I'm one of those who blames the Glenn Beck style rhetoric for the police who got gunned down in my area, but the DHS isn't in any way tying in mainstream Republicans to the situation and by pulling them into it, we're just causing more problems.

Gridlock · 7 months ago

um, but mainstream republicanism is made up of these freaks.

T. Scheisskopf · 7 months ago

Is David Neiwert a prophet? Starting to look like it, no?

LuZenMyMnd · 7 months ago

"...they started inciting violence during the campaign last fall, and they haven't let up. One of these days, one of their followers will get the message. And that's the day that the GOP, FOX, and the religious right will have an awful lot of explaining to do."

I hope it never comes to that. I now find myself praying for our POTUS like I've never done before. These people are frightening.

JoyceH · 7 months ago

What do you mean, 'one of these days'? It's already happening. That guy in Pittsburgh shot those cops because the Right Wing Noise Machine had convinced him that Obama was coming for his guns. The fellow who shot up that Unitarian Church last fall left behind a 'manifesto' saying that he really wanted to shoot all the Democrats in Congress and 'everyone in Bernard Goldberg's book'. We need to stop saying that the irresponsible cranks at FOX 'are going' to incite violence and point out that they already have. That church shooting didn't get nearly the amount of attention it deserved, because that was a taste of things to come if we don't start paying attention.

duchessofbilgewater · 7 months ago

You beat me to it -- said what I was thinking. It's all too easy to sit back and laugh at these clowns standing in the rain in their silly costumes spouting they garbled mixed up message. They are scary as hell.

SCLiberal · 7 months ago

I'm tired of being afraid of people. Not going to do it.

phillydem · 7 months ago

There are 3 freshly minted widows in Pittsburgh because one of the followers "got the message".

We have a local rag here, the Beaver County Times, and after the shootings they wrote one of the most amazing editorials I've ever read, calling out the rw talkers and their ilk for inciting violence.

GoBlue · 7 months ago

Can you provide a link?

ShirleyGoodnessanMercy · 7 months ago

The Fairness Doctrine needs to be reinstituted so that all of America can hear all sides to a controversy. Now, many Americans only hear the rightwing perspective, which is becoming still more shrill and dangerous. Exposure to the other points of view would temper those Thought Thugs.

Johnny · 7 months ago

The violence has already happened. The man that killed a bunch of people in church stating he did it because he couldn't kill all the liberals on a death list in some whack-job's book. The policemen killed in Pittsburgh, not two weeks ago.

Seriously... I no longer make a distinction between conservatives, and psychos. They want me dead because of my politics AND because of what I am.

Older_Wiser · 7 months ago

This shooter made it very clear he had nothing left to lose (from Wikipedia):

Adkisson, a former private in the United States Army from 1974 to 1977, says that he was motivated by hatred of liberalism and by extension homosexuality.[7][1][8] According to a sworn affidavit by one of the officers who interviewed Adkisson on July 27, 2008:[2]

“ During the interview Adkisson stated that he had targeted the church because of its liberal teachings and his belief that all liberals should be killed because they were ruining the country, and that he felt that the Democrats had tied his country's hands in the war on terror and they had ruined every institution in America with the aid of major media outlets. Adkisson made statements that because he could not get to the leaders of the liberal movement that he would then target those that had voted them into office. Adkisson stated that he had held these beliefs for about the last ten years. ”

Additionally, one of Adkisson's former wives had been a member (in the 1990s) of the church where the attack occurred.[9]

Adkisson's letter[10] also cited the inability to find a job, and that his food stamps were being cut. His letter stated that he intended to keep shooting until police arrived and expected to be killed by police. Adkisson had a waist satchel with more ammunition, totaling 76 shells of #4 shot.

woodroad34 · 7 months ago

"his food stamps were being cut" -- he's upset because he couldn't get his liberal-approved handout? That's the hypocrisy of the right.

Milli · 7 months ago

The Gop, Fox, Rush, and the religious right WANT violence at this point. I'd bet my life that these Rush/Beck/Hannity/Coulter freaks are brimming with happiness every time some nutjob takes out their anger on policemen, progressive churches, or their own families, etc. The more violence they can incite, the more relevant and powerful they feel. Yesterday was only the beginning of something that's bound to become much nastier now that we know that FOX will be the cheerleader for any right-wing hate group that would like to make its presence known.

woodroad34 · 7 months ago

It's no surprise. These belligerent crazies have been screaming at us for the last 20 years. They aren't in control any longer and they're gonna do sumpin' 'bout it. Wasn't Timothy McVeigh (a homegrown terrorist) one of these people?

An_American_Karol · 7 months ago

McVeigh was a registered Republican turned Libertarian. So, yes.

woodroad34 · 7 months ago

Remember Sarah Palin smiling benignly as someone shouted 'kill Obama' or any of the rallys for conservatives campaigning for office last year? http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/14/another-mcc...

They support violence, murder, poverty, criminality and unamerican activities. Satan is indeed among us--he now goes by the moniker GOP.

not to scale · 7 months ago

This was a very intentional part of the lowering of standards for entrance into the armed services. This allowed mass influx of those with pasts of violent incidents and gang tattoos, specifically prohibited before. 'Bring The War Home' has been their goal from the beginning.

heartbot · 7 months ago

And I'm sure all of their explanations will involve blaming liberals. For the party of "personal responsibility," they take very little of it themselves.

threadmonitor · 7 months ago

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