"Too Bad Sarah Palin Didn’t Go Missing." ~John Kerry
nicho
· 5 months ago
Sanford was a huge activist in trying to get the 10 Commandments posted publicly.
Now we know why -- he can't remember them.
brb915
· 5 months ago
Ya know folks, I've been thinking on this and my previous post to this story. I've come a little further since then. All people who are running for office in Government Where ever.......Please stop the personal facade of the Leave it to Beaver Saturday Evening Post family/personal persona. We don't want anymore commercials of ya'll running in the daisied meadow with you chillens, we don't want anymore appearances with you partners in their Sunday best, complete with flag pins, we don't want the parading of your youth and their cutesy teddies or boyfriend/girlfriend in hand, we don't want whatever preacher you deem fit to praise the baby Jebus for your existence, we don't want you obligatory book of faith(whether it be the Bible, Koran, Torah, Book of Life, Wall Street Journal,wtf)under you arm at every photo-op. All we want is your platform on how you plan to Govern. All we want is some empathy on what it means to live day to day trying to make ends meet. All we want is some clear statements on what your plan is for this country--fiscally, militarily, globally, and environmentally. That's all I got, naivete and all.
tlsintx
· 5 months ago
New Rule #2:
Lying cheating sanctimonious GOPer religious nutjobs don't get to make any values judgments about anyone else.
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 5 months ago
Haiku for the Obama Administration (#227):
Warm Palermo nights . . . Her two magnificent parts Silvered by the moon.
Rob Mule
· 5 months ago
When daisies pied and violets blue And lady-smocks all silver-white And cuckoo-buds of yellow hue Do paint the meadows with delight, The cuckoo then, on every tree, Mocks married men; for thus sings he, Cuckoo; Cuckoo, cuckoo: O, word of fear, Unpleasing to a married ear!
--Big Bill S, Love's Labours Lost, act 5, scene 2
John Aravosis
· 5 months ago
Actually, someone posted this in my Facebook comments.
Steve_in_CNJ
· 5 months ago
it takes 3 to tango.
woodroad34
· 5 months ago
Confucious say, "When fly is open, look out for toad -- you'll get zapped in the end".
AnalyticalLiberal
· 5 months ago
John, you must have been asleep in your con law classes in law school - I was somewhat awake for mine - but you must have missed the cryptic clause written into the Preamble of the Constitution, using disappearing ink:
IOKIYAR
The corporate media knew this; the VRWC knew this; every fundamentalist "values voter" knew this too. The rest of us learned this when it was revealed in the first "National Treasure" movie. C'mon John, catch up on your popular culture!! :-)
rf7777
· 5 months ago
It takes three to tango?
editht
· 5 months ago
A friend and I had a discussion about this situation with Sanford yesterday. She said that the more power one has, the less one is able to do because one is so visible. I thought it was the opposite; the more power one has makes one think that anything is permissible. Sanford must really be in love with Maria; otherwise no rational person would leave his post for seven days without telling anyone.
Steve_in_CNJ
· 5 months ago
judging from the emails there's no doubt he was in love/lust with the young lady. and that does evoke some sympathy. the question is, why is the sympathy only one way with these people? why so little sympathy or respect for certain other people who fall in love? and why so little conscience from someone who damagogs about posting the 10 commandments in government buildings?
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 5 months ago
and slaps on the back for diaper wearing prostitute frequenting assholes like vitters.
tlsintx
· 5 months ago
steve, this is an excellent observation.
tlsintx
· 5 months ago
oh, and on the topic of sanctimonious sleazebags...Rachel uncovers this little morsel...Mark's icky emails were leaked to the press a long time ago...we'd probably never have gotten the truth without them...Sanford would still be the self-righteous GOPer guv of SC railing against marriage equality...
But the Wilbur Mills affair with "The Argentine Firecracker" (as she was known) was fun in the tradition of good old political rock 'em - sock 'em sex scandals. This Sanford thing is just banal and tawdry.
I had forgotten about Wilbur Mills and the Argentine Firecracker!
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 5 months ago
I was wondering last night....
who was the anonymous tipster?
seriously think about this point for a minute. not saying he should've been blown in for his hypocrisy... just saying think about how they did it.
It HAD to be one of his political enemies who didn't want to use the info to get him to tow the party line (the GOP thought he was kind of a loose cannon on some issues)... they wanted him absolutely ruined.
who was it?
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 5 months ago
Who would have had access to his email?
Were the emails written from a personal computer/account?
mirth
· 5 months ago
I read that it was her husband - his threats to go public is what forced Sanford's confession, and it's logical the husband had access to his wife's email.
HelenRainier
· 5 months ago
Mirth, not necessarily so that the husband had access to his wife's e-mail. I maintained my e-mail account separately from my former husband's account. I initially trusted he would respect my privacy and not "intrude" in my mail. I did not do so with his. When I found he WAS (and making baseless accusations against me), I changed my password.
He got pissed when he discovered I changed the password and didn't tell him. Didn't take but a few years after that I ended up leaving him, moving across the country and getting a divorce.
mirth
· 5 months ago
HelenRainier,
Not sure about the point of your comment.
I wrote that her husband likely released the email content (since he had threatened to do it and, according to what I read, that is what prompted Sanford's confession), and altho you semi-disagree with what I wrote, you then write that your spouse accessed your email.
While doubting it, you actually reinforce my hypothesis.
HelenRainier
· 5 months ago
The point of my comment is that things are not always the way one might think.
Comment not meant to be disagreeable and if you took it that way, I apologize for any misunderstanding.
I have also since heard that Sanford's wife told him not to contact them (meaning his family) during their "separation" period.
It's not a big deal. Just a point -- no more no less. The point is not about reinforcing anyone's hypothesis. If that makes you better though, have at it.
HelenRainier
· 5 months ago
Karen -- can't say with 100% certainty -- however my educated guess his official e-mail account. The excerpts I saw were from "Governor Sanford." Doesn't seem likely his "personal" e-mail addy would be "Governor Sanford."
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 5 months ago
If that's the case, then that's truly a case of Sanford's little head thinking for his big head.
HelenRainier
· 5 months ago
It certainly wouldn't be the first time! :-)
combustibleturnip
· 5 months ago
My wife will never let me go camping again--especially if it involves 'hiking the trail'. Thanks, Gov.
Really, it's sad, but these sanctimonious fools need to be called out on all of it.
woodroad34
· 5 months ago
I see this picture of Mark Sanford wiping tears from his eyes: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20090625/D991O... and all I can think when I see that piece of editorializing photography from AP is that I don't feel sorry for that malicious, weak-willed nincompoop. The only reason he's crying is that he got caught royally and everything is crashing around him and his career is ruined--not because he did any thing wrong. That concept obviously eludes him, as he would've realized his error lo those many years ago when simple friendship went farther. His hypocrisy is out in the open, his opinion no longer matters, his very reason for existence in the GOP is a sham, as pretty much everything with the GOP now is tainted with robust sociopathology -- the emotionally and mentally sick party.
Maybe that's why the GOP is losing their brand...we've been praying harder. I guess they'll never understand the true power of prayer.
TrueBleuCA
· 5 months ago
New Rule... if your fling takes place on another continent, it's not against the rules.
caphillprof
· 5 months ago
In the 1960s rural Kansas Methodists first began traveling to Europe and, it turned out, that in Europe it was ok to have wine or beer with your meals. By the 70s, they could go to Kansas City and have cocktails. God knows what they are doing now.
Rob Mule
· 5 months ago
Why hasn’t the cable-ready phrase “Argentine hotsie totsie” been used for the Sanford otra mujer???
Oval12345678
· 5 months ago
The traditional meaning of "sanfordized" is a trademarked term for pre-wsshing of cotton fabric to minimize shrinkage.
After seeing a couple pictures of Sanford's very cute brunette girlfriend, Maria Belen Shapur, (those gossip websites are on the job!), I leaned that she is 43 years old, and lives in a Buenos Aires apartment which is located near the Buenos Aires Zoo. She has two teenage sons that are living at home with her.
Dave of the Jungle
· 5 months ago
Dude, Obviously.
FreakOfNurture
· 5 months ago
Is it just me, or was he playing the pronoun game with that speech?
"I met this person..." "I've known this person..."
Only once did he say "she". ...Things that make ya go "hmmmm".
nicho
· 5 months ago
But someone has actually seen the woman -- of course, she does have sons of a certain age.
dimitri
· 5 months ago
The LGBT community in South Carolina should reprint the "South Carolina is so gay" tourism ad to get another response from the Argentinian Gov. That would be priceless.
JerryCA
· 5 months ago
If Obama is politically savvy, you would think it would a good time for him to put in executive order lifting the gay military ban? Now with Sanford garning all media attention and Rethug party in disarray, why doesn't he do this? He won't and why? Because he is actually a homophobe. Remember his "girly dog" comment.
John Aravosis
· 5 months ago
Even a better time to repeal DOMA. Let the Republicans talk about protecting marriage.
elizabethcostello
· 5 months ago
Great, John! This made my morning.
mikeyDe
· 5 months ago
What makes this different from other scandals (and what probably caused all the tears) is that the current, native English speaking wife holds the purse strings to Sanford's wealth. If Sanford had his own wealth, he would be pledging eternal love and marital fidelity to Maria.
WineDog
· 5 months ago
If she's a woman at all. When's the press conference to announce that Maria is really Mario and he had no idea blah blah blah
Name
· 5 months ago
Well if you want the rumor machine to get going full steam, how about he traveled there to support her while she had an abortion. I have no evidence to that or anything else for that matter, but a rumor has to start somewhere....
JohnNation
· 5 months ago
So mean... lol!
HelenRainier
· 5 months ago
Hmmm -- so what if you end up with a woman/women who believe that conversely marriage should also be between a woman and two men?
Would that be just hunky-dory too?
Just asking!
PattyP
· 5 months ago
Sure, although why any sane woman would want to put up with twice as much bullshit in a marriage is beyond me.
HelenRainier
· 5 months ago
Good point. It's much better to be unencumbered to anyone. I was just curious if what is good for the goose is also good for the gander! :-)
SouthernYankee
· 5 months ago
You know if people want to get married they should let everyone have civil unions. Than if you want the blessing of the church than do that also. I know my parents did that in Italy back in the early 40's. You had to have a civil union first. I don't see what is wrong with that. Than anyone straight or gay could do that. But no, god help make things easy for anyone.
HelenRainier
· 5 months ago
If people want to get married or have a civil union it should be their choice. However, I think "marriage" is more an invention of the "organized" church. Likewise, if they choose to not get married, that should be their choice too.
However, the choices that are available to any one group of people should be equally available to all those who fall under that same legal system.
SouthernYankee
· 5 months ago
I agree with you. I have been married to a great guy for 30 years. I wish everyone could get married if they want to.
HelenRainier
· 5 months ago
Congratulations! My parents were married for over 50 before each died.
Marshall Y.
· 5 months ago
*A woman in Argentina who is also married.
okojo
· 5 months ago
I like these new rules, where can I sign up?, and can I have two Porteñas instead?
All Comments
~John Kerry
Now we know why -- he can't remember them.
All people who are running for office in Government Where ever.......Please stop the personal facade of the Leave it to Beaver Saturday Evening Post family/personal persona. We don't want anymore commercials of ya'll running in the daisied meadow with you chillens, we don't want anymore appearances with you partners in their Sunday best, complete with flag pins, we don't want the parading of your youth and their cutesy teddies or boyfriend/girlfriend in hand, we don't want whatever preacher you deem fit to praise the baby Jebus for your existence, we don't want you obligatory book of faith(whether it be the Bible, Koran, Torah, Book of Life, Wall Street Journal,wtf)under you arm at every photo-op.
All we want is your platform on how you plan to Govern. All we want is some empathy on what it means to live day to day trying to make ends meet. All we want is some clear statements on what your plan is for this country--fiscally, militarily, globally, and environmentally. That's all I got, naivete and all.
Lying cheating sanctimonious GOPer religious nutjobs don't get to make any values judgments about anyone else.
Warm Palermo nights . . .
Her two magnificent parts
Silvered by the moon.
And lady-smocks all silver-white
And cuckoo-buds of yellow hue
Do paint the meadows with delight,
The cuckoo then, on every tree,
Mocks married men; for thus sings he,
Cuckoo;
Cuckoo, cuckoo: O, word of fear,
Unpleasing to a married ear!
--Big Bill S, Love's Labours Lost, act 5, scene 2
IOKIYAR
The corporate media knew this; the VRWC knew this; every fundamentalist "values voter" knew this too. The rest of us learned this when it was revealed in the first "National Treasure" movie. C'mon John, catch up on your popular culture!! :-)
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/6/25/746...
http://www.zimbio.com/America's+50+Most+Scandal...
who was the anonymous tipster?
seriously think about this point for a minute. not saying he should've been blown in for his hypocrisy... just saying think about how they did it.
It HAD to be one of his political enemies who didn't want to use the info to get him to tow the party line (the GOP thought he was kind of a loose cannon on some issues)... they wanted him absolutely ruined.
who was it?
Were the emails written from a personal computer/account?
He got pissed when he discovered I changed the password and didn't tell him. Didn't take but a few years after that I ended up leaving him, moving across the country and getting a divorce.
Not sure about the point of your comment.
I wrote that her husband likely released the email content (since he had threatened to do it and, according to what I read, that is what prompted Sanford's confession), and altho you semi-disagree with what I wrote, you then write that your spouse accessed your email.
While doubting it, you actually reinforce my hypothesis.
Comment not meant to be disagreeable and if you took it that way, I apologize for any misunderstanding.
I have also since heard that Sanford's wife told him not to contact them (meaning his family) during their "separation" period.
It's not a big deal. Just a point -- no more no less. The point is not about reinforcing anyone's hypothesis. If that makes you better though, have at it.
Really, it's sad, but these sanctimonious fools need to be called out on all of it.
and all I can think when I see that piece of editorializing photography from AP is that I don't feel sorry for that malicious, weak-willed nincompoop. The only reason he's crying is that he got caught royally and everything is crashing around him and his career is ruined--not because he did any thing wrong. That concept obviously eludes him, as he would've realized his error lo those many years ago when simple friendship went farther. His hypocrisy is out in the open, his opinion no longer matters, his very reason for existence in the GOP is a sham, as pretty much everything with the GOP now is tainted with robust sociopathology -- the emotionally and mentally sick party.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/S...
After seeing a couple pictures of Sanford's very cute brunette girlfriend, Maria Belen Shapur, (those gossip websites are on the job!), I leaned that she is 43 years old, and lives in a Buenos Aires apartment which is located near the Buenos Aires Zoo. She has two teenage sons that are living at home with her.
"I met this person..."
"I've known this person..."
Only once did he say "she".
...Things that make ya go "hmmmm".
Would that be just hunky-dory too?
Just asking!
However, the choices that are available to any one group of people should be equally available to all those who fall under that same legal system.