AMERICAblog: No, AP - Democrats don't "say" McCain said he'd talk to Hamas, McCain said it himself on camera
acknight
· 1 year ago
Second to last line of the article is a fun one: "On Thursday, McCain told reporters he took the White House at its word when it said that Bush hadn't been referring to Obama in his speech."
Who in their right mind would take Bush at his word, when it's been repeatedly proven.......... oh, never mind.
SINGING_TROLL
· 1 year ago
That's friggin funny! lol
SINGING_TROLL
· 1 year ago
"Quote the video"
Now why would they do that?
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
Good post, John! Keep on those enablers...
BTW, Pete Stark (D-CA) just endorsed Obama. I'll bet there are a lot more Californians out there who are having buyer's remorse about Clinton.
SINGING_TROLL
· 1 year ago
Go Pete! When is the ghoul Feinstein gonna give it up and face reality?
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
Now it's being reported that Ed Gillespie said Bush didn't "anticipate the response" to his remarks about "appeasement."
STFU and take your punishment.
wmforr
· 1 year ago
"The Democrats said the sun came up this morning. We will have a comment from a Republican spokesman in a minute. Meanwhile I and my panel of pundits, who are here because they don't really know much of anything about anything, will discuss whether or not the sunrise should be made into a partisan issue. We'll start with you, Pug."
Pug: "Well, I think by talking about it so blatantly, the Demcrats have made it into a partisan issue, whether it should be or not. And this is going to follow Obama into the general election. I don't see how he can anwer these charges on the sunrise, when McCain is taking the high road and staying out of the fray."
"Oh yes, that John McCain. He's certainly a maverick, isn't he pug?"
Pug: "Well yes, that's the one thing we can all agree about around here. That McCain is certainly a maverick. But anyway, back to the sunrise. That ,coupled with the appeasement charge that the Democrats say that President Bush made, whether he did or not, is going to sink Obama in November."
slappymagoo
· 1 year ago
NOW some Democrats are saying there's video proof of McCain saying we should talk to Hamas. When will these Dems ever learn it does no good to smear a war hero like McCain or Bush, only traitors like Obama and Kerry? No, no no I'm not listening to your nonsense about "video evidence" and "conclusive proof" you're just appeasers, and you know I know what that word means, lalalala not listening not listening I'm in happy place where Bush's approval ratings are above 31 percent, la la la la la ...
dad
· 1 year ago
"They're the government; (recognizes Hamas as the legitimate government) sooner or later we are going to have to deal with them, one way or another (suggests options - must be at least two), and I understand why this administration and previous administrations had such antipathy (a natural, basic, or habitual repugnance; aversion) towards Hamas because of their dedication to violence and the things that they not only espouse but practice, so . . . but it's a new reality in the Middle East (old approach is no longer valid - new approach needed). I think the lesson is people want security and a decent life and decent future (this doesn't sound like he favors a military approach), that they want democracy. Fatah was not giving them that (implies that he thinks Hamas could be better)."
The DNC (or MoveOn?) should make a campaign ad using McCain's comments from the video.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
AP's not a "fact-based" organization.
They're in the opinion business.
So, even when they have a fact, they have to put it in the form of an opinion.
Hacks.
heraldsquare
· 1 year ago
Check out this clip of Chris Matthews challenging Kevin James, some conservative commentator I've never heard of before, as to what, exactly, Chamberlain did wrong in 1938. It must be very emarrassing to be James right now, and Matthews makes a good point about Bushes comments: it wasn't talking that was Chamberlain's mistake, it was actually giving Hitler something - the Sudentland. That's appeasement; diplomacy is not.
The DNC (or MoveOn?) should make a campaign ad using McCain's comments from the video.
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There are tons of those McCain flip-flops--all on video that can be juxtaposed.
They'd better get to branding him with them fast.
RenoAnne
· 1 year ago
Are you seriously suggesting that the AP risk losing their invitation to one of Grampa Golddigger's barbeques over something as silly and trivial as facts?
This time you've gone too far, John.
kevinbgoode
· 1 year ago
I'd be happy if the Democrats started running ads showing the video clips, and THEN the text of these con-servative-leaning media pieces, just so the public can get an idea of how AP always leans to the Right. The media does not deserve a free pass this election cycle - they've shown themselves too inept to escape scrutiny and are part of this political campaign.
Mike_G
· 1 year ago
AP, like most of the Mediocre Mainstream Media, are too lazy to check their facts. They'd rather write "X said this about Y" and head for the bar. "Is it true? Not my problem. I'm 'reporting the controversy'".
Usually this results in bullshit smears by Repigs being uncritically injected into the media bloodstream. In this case it's a sloppy "Dems said that McCain said" statement that their audience can ignore as partisan bloviating. Funny how their errors and laziness work against Dems most of the time.
mr_ed
· 1 year ago
Journalism ain't what it used to be. Damn few of them have the time, inclination or experience to do research. They're lazy, and have to pick what's interesting out of all the stuff bombarding them, and under constant pressure for instant output. So, we get what we do. And they're too proud to get info from the likes of bloggers, who are considered slightly south of human.
topazpilot
· 1 year ago
John,
Apparently you didn't watch the entire video clip b/c just after that McCain quite clearly states that the actions of Hamas would determine U.S. relations with the new gov't. Obama=relations with no preconditions. McCain=require Hamas to be dedicated to peace and democracy. Then again, the truth gets in the way of a flimsy defense of the new messiah.
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Who in their right mind would take Bush at his word, when it's been repeatedly proven.......... oh, never mind.
lol
Now why would they do that?
BTW, Pete Stark (D-CA) just endorsed Obama. I'll bet there are a lot more Californians out there who are having buyer's remorse about Clinton.
When is the ghoul Feinstein gonna give it up and face reality?
STFU and take your punishment.
Pug: "Well, I think by talking about it so blatantly, the Demcrats have made it into a partisan issue, whether it should be or not. And this is going to follow Obama into the general election. I don't see how he can anwer these charges on the sunrise, when McCain is taking the high road and staying out of the fray."
"Oh yes, that John McCain. He's certainly a maverick, isn't he pug?"
Pug: "Well yes, that's the one thing we can all agree about around here. That McCain is certainly a maverick. But anyway, back to the sunrise. That ,coupled with the appeasement charge that the Democrats say that President Bush made, whether he did or not, is going to sink Obama in November."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/16/8571/16...
They're in the opinion business.
So, even when they have a fact, they have to put it in the form of an opinion.
Hacks.
http://jezebel.com/391196/
http://jezebel.com/391196/
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There are tons of those McCain flip-flops--all on video that can be juxtaposed.
They'd better get to branding him with them fast.
This time you've gone too far, John.
Usually this results in bullshit smears by Repigs being uncritically injected into the media bloodstream. In this case it's a sloppy "Dems said that McCain said" statement that their audience can ignore as partisan bloviating. Funny how their errors and laziness work against Dems most of the time.
Apparently you didn't watch the entire video clip b/c just after that McCain quite clearly states that the actions of Hamas would determine U.S. relations with the new gov't. Obama=relations with no preconditions. McCain=require Hamas to be dedicated to peace and democracy. Then again, the truth gets in the way of a flimsy defense of the new messiah.