She's NOT going to concede. EVER. She's going to run around the country saying she's the better candidate and undercutting Obama and cost us this election! I don't think Bill can even talk to her at this point. She's NOT going to be a gracious loser and she'll campaign until August or later. Words cannot describe how I loathe this woman...
Butch1
· 1 year ago
"Clyburn thinks Obama will garner enough superdelegates during the day so that he'll go over the top when the votes from Montana and South Dakota are tallied." =========================================================== One can only hope. Of course, Ms. Clinton has no intention of conceeding. Such a drama queen trying to steal away what should be a joyous celebration for the Democratic party by refusing defeat and hanging on without any real reason save, forcing the issue of the VP position. She has earned nothing and doesn't deserve it being even offered to her. At one time I would have thought it a good idea but not after they way the Clinton's have shown their true side and feelings. Would they really be in Obama's camp or just waiting for a chance to make him look bad?! Watch her this evening and tomorrow and you will see she has no intention of being on his team and would try and ruin what should be a joyous day for him. She is beyond disgusting, in my opinion. I can't wait for her to get out of the way soon enough.
Will_In_Midtown
· 1 year ago
obama would be a damn fool to take her as the vp runningmate! she will upstage him at every chance, and make it known two years in that she is planning on running against him. she needs to sit down, shut up, and realize her party has ended!
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
You got it! He'd be a fool to let her that close to the presidency.
glaukopis
· 1 year ago
Yes, her proponents will say it's 'her turn' now.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
"Tis but a flesh wound!" The Black Knight in Monty Python's search for the holy grail
budpaul
· 1 year ago
So, we're basically looking at him needing about 18 more in order to be set for tonight. Man, I cannot believe that after all this time that we're finally in the home stretch.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
except for the fact that hillary won't concede... which means she really IS pushing for her voters to vote for mcsame in the general election.
seems to be all or nothing with her.
and that makes a good presidental candidate?? isn't that the kind of thinking that got us into this fubar economy & Iraq??
Õ¿Õ
· 1 year ago
After all we've been through all these years, I gotta say, I luv you all.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
If Obama gets enough delegates tonight to put him over the top...
Keith Olberman should really do an editorial on hillary.
the theme "have you no shame?" comes to mind.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
This is in thee a nature but infected; A poor unmanly melancholy sprung From change of fortune. Why this spade? this place? This slave-like habit? and these looks of care? Thy flatterers yet wear silk, drink wine, lie soft; Hug their diseased perfumes, and have forgot
--Timon of Athens, Act 4, Scene 3
zavlin
· 1 year ago
Im calling it now. If hillary wins one or more of the two contests tonight, shes going to essentially declare victory tonight. Shes going to give a speech declaring that michigan and florida must count exactly as the flawed election went down with 100% of votes, and therefore she won. Its only after saying this that she'l throw in "oh were suspending our campaign until the convention where we'l win". Lets not disillusion ourselves that shes going to give obama any slack at all. And if she does, itl be a pleasant surprize, but the hillary iv come to know from this election is going to go ahead with the nuclear option even after its failed.
edit: and of course if hillary loses both contests tonight she would look extremely foolish still giving such a speech. But i wouldnt put it passed her.
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
MSNBC is saying 33 to go. How in the heck are we supposed to know when Obama gets to the magic number when everyone has a different number.
zavlin
· 1 year ago
And you can be sure hillary is going to use that to enforce her arguement that this isnt over until august.
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
I don't think she'll bow out gracefully. She'll say something like, "Though I stlll feel I'm the better candidate, I'll support Obama in every way I can." She won't fully concede. She'll give the impression that she's been robbed.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
probably...
and three years from now, whether mcsame wins the general or Obama...
the hillbots will still be talking about how Obama stole hillary's nomination... but only because hillary will still be talking about it.
PeteWa
· 1 year ago
Seeing as how Obama has more delegates and more superdelegates and a wide lead on the popular vote, how can anyone not agree that Hillary is the w(h)inner?
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
Hillary should take all her followers and secede from the Union.
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
MSNBC just reported that Obama now needs 30.5 to win the magic number. So if he were to win both states that would get him to the magic number.
scottinsf
· 1 year ago
The primaries are not winner take all though.
Sage24
· 1 year ago
Even at the last few moments, we see the meanness of Queen Hillary. The nastiness she displays, making it difficult for Obama to achieve the nomination.
What a trashy, piece of work. Oh yes, there is that drama....
BorninUSA
· 1 year ago
Still Hillary's spokesmen are saying she has earned a little space, a little time, to decide when she will concede. Damn it! We don't have a little time. We need to get united and start campaigning as a united Democratic Party against McCain. They believe there will be a miracle and somehow, some way, she will win the nomination. She has lost! Obama has won! Can't they get that through their friggin heads?? I am really getting angry about her and her feelings. Where are the super delegates who can put an end to this now??? The Democrats are becoming the laughing stock of the U.S. and it is all Hillary's fault. She is a selfish, egotistic, horrible woman.
BorninUSA
· 1 year ago
Shame on you Hillary Clinton!
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
hillary... here's a new song for you to start singing, the old one's kinda tired right about now. and you can't take the blame for your own campaign failures, right?
Times have changed, our kids are getting worse They won't obey their parents they just want to fart and curse
Should we blame the government? Or blame society? Or should we blame the images on TV?
No! Blame Canada! Blame Canada With all thier beedy little eyes have packed thier heads so full of lies, Blame Canada! Blame Canada, we need to form a full assault its canadas fault
Mrs. Marsh:Don't blame me for my son Stan he saw the darn cartoon and now hes of to join the klan
And my boy Eric once had my picture on his shelf, but now when I see him he tells me to fuck myself
Well? Blame Canada! Blame Canada! it seems that everythings gone wrong since Canada came along Blame Canada! Blame Canada! They're not even a real country anyway
My son could have been a doctor or a lawyer rich and true instead he burned up like a piggy on a barbeque
Should we blame the matches? Should we blame the fire? Or the doctors who allowed him to expire?
Heck no! Blame Canada! Blame Canada! with all their hockey hollabaloo And that bitch Ann Murray too Blame Canada! shame on Canada, for the smut we must stuff the trash we must stash the laughter and fuck must all be undone we must blame them the cause of fuss! before somebody thinks of blaming us
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
I have long suspected that Ann Murray is the Antichrist.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
and Michael J Fox is the Anti-Elvis... so sayeth Mojo Nixon.
Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas
· 1 year ago
I just read that South Dakota may be a Hillary bloodbath with her winning. Does this mean much today?
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
not really...
then again... all three people in South Dakota are know to be indecisive so, you never know how they'll vote.
mmedefarge
· 1 year ago
what it means is that all of her defamation and lies of the last few months have had a chance to take root and begin to fester like weeds in what could have been places of beauty.
CoreyL
· 1 year ago
Drudge is reporting that Obama has passed the threshold and won the nomination free and clear! It's a huge flashing headline on DrudgeReport.com
heathwood
· 1 year ago
AP saying Obama has clinched Dem. Nomination, 1224 central time
jr
· 1 year ago
Harriet Christian is weeping into her ashtray
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
hasn't it been amazing to see all the insidious resentments and bigotries come to light?
AdrianBrowne
· 1 year ago
My local NPR station (NYC) is announcing that Obama "has clinched the nomination."
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
I wouldn't trust a thing the corporate newsreaders are saying right now. Remember, they are still fresh off glad handing themselves over the "tough" questions they asked the Bush administration leading up to the Iraq War. Scott McClellan's book proves once and for all the corporate reporters are deferential to the Republicans, and there is no such thing as "fair and balanced" news. If the corporate newsreaders would pound McShame on all his inconsistencies instead of pretending they never occurred there wouldn't even be the need to run a campaign against them this fall. We'd just let the record speak for itself.
ZennButtKicker (tlhwraith)
· 1 year ago
Once Obama can legitimately say he has passed the delegate threshold, Hillary has no claims left to continue on. Simple put, even trying to "convert" delegates to her after he has passed the threshold is the political equivalent of taking a suicide pill. If she succeeds and starts eroding support from the democratic nominee, she will be a political paraia, if she fails, same effect. Either way, even trying to scorch the earth at this point will only lead to her getting burned.
This has been a "long strange journey", but Obama has successful shown his metal and has come out the other side better equipped to bring the whoop-ass to the GOP. Now I am anxiously awaiting the first debate, time to take the fight to them.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
you obviously haven't been following hillary's whinning campaign.
its simple really... she'll convince the media that the DNC's final decision on Fla. and Mi. disenfranchises a huge amount of people... she'll call for re-votes in Fla. and Mi.
see? even though you've lost, it doesn't mean anything when you hold the rovian campaign rulebook.
ZennButtKicker (tlhwraith)
· 1 year ago
at some point even she will acknowledge that the game is done. I'm thinking as soon as Obama has enough delegates to say he has passed the line, if Hillary doesn't give up a lot of her supporters will make her give up by moving to support Obama. Remember, most of her political and financial supporters are far more interested in backing the winner than backing Hillary Clinton. Up until very recently we still had to contend with the myth of the "Clinton mystique", that dragon has since been slain.
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
NOTE TO OBAMA CAMPAIGN FROM CONCERNED CITIZEN:
Please stop having the campaign say everyone should be glad George W. Bush's name isn't going to be on the ballot in November! Its a mixed message. We would rather hear "George W. Bush's name is going to be on the ballot but it will be spelled M-C-C-A-I-N." From what I've been hearing, Republicans aren't afraid to have already started throwing punches and Democrats are being too nice, as usual. Also, we all know by now Obama "respects and admires" McCain and we don't need to hear him say it every time he speaks... Just sayin'... I really want to win this time.
zavlin
· 1 year ago
Assuming hillary ever leaves, we're going to have a number of months to establish that one.
CoreyL
· 1 year ago
I disagree. Obama has rightfully called McCain a war hero and it would be hard to dispute that. Obama is all about unity and healing while Hillary's spiteful campaign was about partisan division. I'm proud that Barach has reached out to Republicans and will incorporate them into his cabinet. We need to end the politics of personal destruction as practiced by the sleazy Clintons.
ZennButtKicker (tlhwraith)
· 1 year ago
I think Obamas got a plan, and so far it has served him pretty well. A lot of the reason he is where he is is simply because he isn't playing by the accepted playbook. Showing deference to McCain so often has the effect of keeping most of the GOP electorate less "worked up" and likely to rush to his side. A lot of the reason McCains support is so soft in the GOP is because there simply isn't anything that compelling about him. Take away Clinton as a rallying cry and don't say anything too offensive about McCain and you effectively keep the GOP base placated. Given the current domestic conditions, if the Dems can fire up their supporters and keep GOP supporters worried and at home, game-set-match-Obama.
scottinsf
· 1 year ago
Superdelegate Dick Wiener of MI has endorsed Obama. I think we all see where this is going :)
ZennButtKicker (tlhwraith)
· 1 year ago
the oval office
theexog
· 1 year ago
Here in Montana its widely accepted that Obama will win (Hillary just ain't a Montana sort of gal) and the Guv, Baucus and Tester have said they will support the winner, as will the two remaining Dem officials. Three have already declared for him, so the total will be 25 for Obama tonight. Yeah!
mirth
· 1 year ago
If true that Obama has clinched the nom, then the SD holdouts listened to him. Most of them have stated they would announce for him after the vote results tonight; he asked them to declare during today so that tonight he can make a victory speech.
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One can only hope. Of course, Ms. Clinton has no intention of conceeding. Such a drama queen trying to steal away what should be a joyous celebration for the Democratic party by refusing defeat and hanging on without any real reason save, forcing the issue of the VP position. She has earned nothing and doesn't deserve it being even offered to her. At one time I would have thought it a good idea but not after they way the Clinton's have shown their true side and feelings. Would they really be in Obama's camp or just waiting for a chance to make him look bad?! Watch her this evening and tomorrow and you will see she has no intention of being on his team and would try and ruin what should be a joyous day for him. She is beyond disgusting, in my opinion. I can't wait for her to get out of the way soon enough.
seems to be all or nothing with her.
and that makes a good presidental candidate?? isn't that the kind of thinking that got us into this fubar economy & Iraq??
Keith Olberman should really do an editorial on hillary.
the theme "have you no shame?" comes to mind.
A poor unmanly melancholy sprung
From change of fortune. Why this spade? this place?
This slave-like habit? and these looks of care?
Thy flatterers yet wear silk, drink wine, lie soft;
Hug their diseased perfumes, and have forgot
--Timon of Athens, Act 4, Scene 3
edit: and of course if hillary loses both contests tonight she would look extremely foolish still giving such a speech. But i wouldnt put it passed her.
and three years from now, whether mcsame wins the general or Obama...
the hillbots will still be talking about how Obama stole hillary's nomination... but only because hillary will still be talking about it.
What a trashy, piece of work. Oh yes, there is that drama....
Times have changed,
our kids are getting worse
They won't obey their parents they just want to fart and curse
Should we blame the government?
Or blame society?
Or should we blame the images on TV?
No!
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada
With all thier beedy little eyes have packed thier heads so full of lies,
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada,
we need to form a full assault its canadas fault
Mrs. Marsh:Don't blame me for my son Stan he saw the darn cartoon and now hes of to join the klan
And my boy Eric once had my picture on his shelf, but now when I see him he tells me to fuck myself
Well?
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!
it seems that everythings gone wrong since Canada came along
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!
They're not even a real country anyway
My son could have been a doctor or a lawyer rich and true instead he burned up like a piggy on a barbeque
Should we blame the matches? Should we blame the fire?
Or the doctors who allowed him to expire?
Heck no!
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!
with all their hockey hollabaloo
And that bitch Ann Murray too
Blame Canada!
shame on Canada, for the smut we must stuff the trash we must stash the laughter and fuck must all be undone we must blame them the cause of fuss!
before somebody thinks of blaming us
then again... all three people in South Dakota are know to be indecisive so, you never know how they'll vote.
This has been a "long strange journey", but Obama has successful shown his metal and has come out the other side better equipped to bring the whoop-ass to the GOP. Now I am anxiously awaiting the first debate, time to take the fight to them.
its simple really... she'll convince the media that the DNC's final decision on Fla. and Mi. disenfranchises a huge amount of people... she'll call for re-votes in Fla. and Mi.
see? even though you've lost, it doesn't mean anything when you hold the rovian campaign rulebook.
Please stop having the campaign say everyone should be glad George W. Bush's name isn't going to be on the ballot in November! Its a mixed message. We would rather hear "George W. Bush's name is going to be on the ballot but it will be spelled M-C-C-A-I-N." From what I've been hearing, Republicans aren't afraid to have already started throwing punches and Democrats are being too nice, as usual. Also, we all know by now Obama "respects and admires" McCain and we don't need to hear him say it every time he speaks... Just sayin'... I really want to win this time.
Most of them have stated they would announce for him after the vote results tonight; he asked them to declare during today so that tonight he can make a victory speech.