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AMERICAblog: "Now that is what happpened" -- or not: Video of Hillary's "sniper-riddled" trip to Bosnia

  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    Hillary Dear, I'm going to give it to you straight: STFU and Drop out of the Race
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    Hillary Dear, I'm going to give it to you straight: STFU and Drop out of the Race
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    "Hillary Dear, I'm going to give it to you straight: STFU and Drop out of the Race"
    Worth saying twice, Dave lol
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    Funny, I just went from a positive nine points to a negative seven. It seems KayInMaine and Uncle Fester are lurking here this morning. lol
  • Measured_Response · 1 year ago
    An_American_Karol Today 10:17 AM 2 points
    "Funny, I just went from a positive nine points to a negative seven. It seems KayInMaine and Uncle Fester are lurking here this morning. lol"

    There is nothing to stop anyone from registering 50 emails with 50 different Disqus ID's and bumping their ratings or trashing another's. I don't pay any attention to the rating system, it can be too easily rigged.
  • Patriot · 1 year ago
    Has Hillary or her campaign staff responded, retracted or clarrified any of this yet? I haven't seen anything in the way of a response to this and it seems incredibly damaging.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Penn will get to it as soon as the sloppy fat bastard kicks his pizza buffet binge.

    In reality the Clinton campaign is facing the fact that it is over and they are too busy blaming each other for this campaign's epic collapse.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    As Joe's post says, they had a current Hillary speechwriter (and former White House employee) who was on the trip write her account to try to square it with Hillary's

    Unfortunately, she couldn't bend the truth quite enough to match up with Hillary's tales of danger.
  • jr · 1 year ago
    She met the National Sinbadity Threshold
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    But what about her skills at manning the phone center at 3:00 a.m.?
  • HereinDC · 1 year ago
    That 90 second video is toast to her campaign!
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Finally, the Barack Obama campaign has found a big gun to help shoot down Hillary Rodham Clinton's self-proclaimed foreign policy experience. And he may be the wackiest gun of all: Sinbad, the actor, who has come out from under a rock to defend Obama in the war over foreign policy credentials.

    Sinbad, along with singer Sheryl Crow, was on that 1996 trip to Bosnia that Clinton has described as a harrowing international experience that makes her tested and ready to answer a 3 a.m. phone call at the White House on day one, a claim for which she's taking much grief on the campaign trail.


    Harrowing? Not that Sinbad recalls. He just remembers it being a USO tour to buck up the troops amid a much worse situation than he had imagined between the Bosnians and Serbs.

    In an interview with the Sleuth Monday, he said the "scariest" part of the trip was wondering where he'd eat next. "I think the only 'red-phone' moment was: 'Do we eat here or at the next place.'"

    Clinton, during a late December campaign appearance in Iowa, described a hair-raising corkscrew landing in war-torn Bosnia, a trip she took with her then-teenage daughter, Chelsea. "They said there might be sniper fire," Clinton said.

    Threat of bullets? Sinbad doesn't remember that, either.

    "I never felt that I was in a dangerous position. I never felt being in a sense of peril, or 'Oh, God, I hope I'm going to be OK when I get out of this helicopter or when I get out of his tank.'"

    In her Iowa stump speech, Clinton also said, "We used to say in the White House that if a place is too dangerous, too small or too poor, send the First Lady."

    Say what? As Sinbad put it: "What kind of president would say, 'Hey, man, I can't go 'cause I might get shot so I'm going to send my wife...oh, and take a guitar player and a comedian with you.'"


    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2008/03/s...
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    She's so brave. Not!
  • Ben Dover · 1 year ago
    Hillary, hon, it's far past time to stop the lies and deception. You no longer have an honest chance of winning the nomination. All the lies have destroyed your credibility. You are no longer a viable candidate for public office.

    NOW is the time to step aside, before you destroy the party and hand the presidency to McCain.

    NOW Hillary, now.

    Obama '08!
  • HereinDC · 1 year ago
    ....When the CBS news person say "welcoming ceremony" and then Hillary says there was NONE..
    Good Grief...
    That WAS NOT A MIS SPEAK from Hillary....Hillary is ALWAYS looking down at her notes on what to say....she is always looking down on what to say.....so it can't be a misspeak.

    .
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    Wow. Obama has divided the GOP. Hannity vs Kemp on Obama
    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Yeah, Chris Wallace and the Fox Morning people were fighting over Obama too.

    It could get interesting if he's the nominee.
  • John Aravosis · 1 year ago
    Okay, I've switched the comments back to the old boring way - the flat way - so every new comment will come up on top, rather than associated with the comment you're responding to. Let's try this for a few days and see which you guys like better.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Your call.

    But my vote is for the new way.

    I liked having multiple conversations/debates at once.

    Good way to keep my mind sharp.
  • AngelaChanning · 1 year ago
    Good Gravy Marie, I thought it was me wondering why the comments looked different. And I work in IT! LOL.
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    One cool feature with your new service allows users to adjust their individual view of comments. Under the field where you type a comment, you can click the "options" button to modify the order you view comments--from oldest to newest, or hot to best first. Change IS good.
  • Measured_Response · 1 year ago
    Just when I was liking the new way,lol.
    I'm on super high speed today and no issues with large amounts of cookies ( up to 45 cookies to post ) bogging down my CPU, yahoooooooo. Bring on the cookies today. :)
  • grasshopper · 1 year ago
    For all of Hillary's faults, I never thought she was stupid. To lie so brazenly when there is bound to be video record of her trip is beyond dumb. She is as delusional as our current nut job in the WH.
  • mmedefarge · 1 year ago
    Now let me see--Hillary brought Chelsea along on a dangerous mission--I think not! ( Although I do remember that when my daughters were that age, 15, the temptation might have been there to do so....not the most fun year of motherhood.)

    I love the 4 Pinocchio's rating, very clever!
  • Asterix · 1 year ago
    I figure she's just confused.

    It was Hackensack, not Tuzla.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    So, either Hillary was lying about the mission, or she was using the little girl as a human shield.

    Which is it, Hillary?
  • vkobaya · 1 year ago
    or she was using the little girl as a human shield.

    Don't forget the comedian, singer and her daughter who also served as her human shields on that trip.
  • vkobaya · 1 year ago
    Four Pinocchios! Don't know what you are complaining about. Look at the current usurping occupant of chair in Oval Office. Four thousand Pinocchios, maybe four billion, or four trillion. However, agree, this isn't the last and she seems on a path to being comparable to the sick, sick dog that currently holds the position she is seeking. No doubt in my mind. She is not one I would want in that position of responsibility. While lying is a political reality that we can't escape, Clinton's lies are too blatantly self-serving, corrupt ... and (sigh!) stupid. I doubt Obama will escape his terms in office without lying to us, but hope that his lies are less self-serving, dishonest and corrupt.
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    There is not enough bandwidth to show the number of pinocchios given to Bush.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    It's kind of funny.

    This would have never been an issue before youtube and Jon Stewart.

    Nobody looked at old footage to confirm these things.

    I think Hillary's used to playing under the rules Bill competed under.
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    Wanna bet, the little girl Hillary kissed is an Obama supporter now? ;p
    http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Story?id=4416390&page=1
  • ILiveinaDemocracy · 1 year ago
    LOL
  • HereinDC · 1 year ago
    Thanks John. Sometimes the old way is the better way.

    If there was sniper fire....would you let your daughter or son even come off the plane?

    Hmmmmm
  • shablul · 1 year ago
    Are we absolutely sure she's not actually a Republican sent to destroy the Democratic party?
  • sherifffruitfly · 1 year ago
    Wow! It's almost like Clinton is a WAR HERO!!!

    lololol
  • Paul_In_SF · 1 year ago
    She shook a little girl's hand, therefore she is qualified to be commander in chief.
  • jimfromthefoothills · 1 year ago
    The Clinton's lie without effort. They lie about things big and small. Do they ever tell the truth? Time to take back this party. GO OBAMA!
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Did she get the Congressional Medal of Honor for her bravery?
  • kevinbgoode · 1 year ago
    But it doesn't count unless her minister said it. . .
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    British And French: Less Confidence In Bush To Do The Right Thing In World Than Putin
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/22/britis...
  • alexa · 1 year ago
    Don't ask me how it happened but I'm finally able to leave a comment after trying off and on for the last couple of days. If you don't hear from me again today, figure that I'm still trying to get back in.
    Alexa formerly known as Alex
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    the video is terrific. i have my fingers and toes crossed that the power of the people through the internet is going to overcome the power of the old media and the lying politicians to control every message.
  • CitizenTwenty · 1 year ago
    Just what we need...
    Another President that thinks all they have to do is say something and it becomes real...
    I recall that someone from the current administration was quoted suggesting they possessed the ability to "Create reality" simply through constant assertions and media manipulations.
  • theWalrus · 1 year ago
    Politicans make shit up? Wow. Who knew?

    The comments are flat again, which I prefer. So, it's like Haloscan, but without all the crashing?
  • vegasbaby · 1 year ago
    Poor Shillary....so desperate!!! So delusional!!! Even the beltway blowhards know Shillary is DONE!

    Let her stay in the race. We need her to be so humiliated and broken so as to never rise again.

    The Clintons are toast. They just can't seem to grasp that their plan didn't work. Surprise, surprise, a mixed race, young buck from Chicago has thrown water on the fire!!

    Bush/Clinton/Bush Clinton in NOT change. Americans are ready for change! Shillary is not change. And BTW, I used to view Bill as a hero. Not so much anymore...with his Mc Carthy like language praising McLame and questioning Obama's patriotism. Ridiculous!!!

    Go OBAMA '08
  • Coming Undone · 1 year ago
    What exactly is the point of her lie, because it her story was true it makes her and Bill look like unfit parents, to take Chelsea into a war zone where there is sniper fire.
  • Paul_In_SF · 1 year ago
    Ouch!
  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    Coming Undone, I don't think Hillary was thinking beyond the inflation of her resume.
  • beltman713 · 1 year ago
    All Obama has to do is run this video in his next campaign ads and she is toast.
  • TheOriginalLiz · 1 year ago
    I believe Hillary is actually working for McCain. She's certainly not working for the democratic party, or the american people.
  • BorninUSA · 1 year ago
    She is definitely listening to K. Rove. This sounds like his tactic. Throw the shit out there and it will stick to enough people and they will believe.
  • SarainKC · 1 year ago
    She's actually working for The Bilderberg Group, who control both the Clinton's and as of recently, McCain. They have been successful in hand picking Presidents all over the world. They didn't count on Obama and Hill and Bill have their marching orders. Destroy Obama at all costs.
  • devis1 · 1 year ago
    Does anyone know if by watching this video here it 'counts' as a view on youtube? I'ts popularity is a factor in promoting it. Just wondering.
  • ILiveinaDemocracy · 1 year ago
    Yep it does count
  • Ben Dover · 1 year ago
    I just can't believe that they allowed that little girl terrorist to get so close to combat hardened Gen. Hillary with those flowers. And why wasn't Chelsea wearing an anti-bouquet vest???

    That little girl terrorist could have put out an eye if she'd thrown them.
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    If you believe Hillary's version our military and Presidential Secret Service are the most incompetent bastards in the world. They actually made them land into Bosnia while under sniper fire. They potentially put the first lady and first daughter into a life threatening situation, of course, not counting Sinbad and Sheryl Crowe. The people who allowed this to happen need to be found and brought before Waxman's committee and reprimanded and sent home without their supper.
    Hillary, you have gone over to the dark side.
    Maybe her pantsuit is made out of kevlar.
    Bill of course was home doing what President's do, keeping the homeland secure by getting a quick hummer from the dumpy chick.
  • Ben Dover · 1 year ago
    That's totally unfair, lynchie! Bill was also on the phone with world leaders WHILE being hummer-ized. Multi-tasking his way toward impeachment.

    LOL!

    :)
  • bill__free · 1 year ago
    quick question.
    If Florida & Michigan got to vote again, could the republicans that didn't vote in the republican primary then vote in the democrat primary?
  • Ben Dover · 1 year ago
    Not to be O.T., but...where is everyone? Maybe it's me, but there seems to be a lot of long time posters MIA.
  • Ben Dover · 1 year ago
    If combat veteran Hillary cannot tell the difference between snipers and little girls with flowers, I'm certain that I don't want her fingers anywhere near the nuclear launch button.

    She might have an "episode" and get us all killed.
  • gustavmahler · 1 year ago
    Abrams is the only one to show this so far, but for me, this is an example of a blatant lie. Abrams calls it a misstatement, but it is a lie. She is trying so hard to make herself look great that she is LYING. Is this what people want in a president? If she is lying now, what will she do when she is elected? Her 'I brought peace to Ireland' lie was shot down too, did we hear about that in the news? Are reporters asking her about these lies?
  • ILiveinaDemocracy · 1 year ago
    I watched this clip today on Youtube and I swear when she was asked about her account by a reporter of the trip to Bosnia and Sinbad recalling that this wasn't dangerous at all and when she smirked and said because he was a comedien therefore his remarks are bullocks , I Swear I think she wanted to say because he's Black.!!!
  • ekwhite · 1 year ago
    This is blatant resume padding. She should be ashamed of herself for this one.
  • ClaraHussein · 1 year ago
    here is more
  • ClaraHussein · 1 year ago
    this picture of hillary with seating next to Rev wright at the breakfast with Clinton 1998
  • Ann_in_KC · 1 year ago
    Good news...Obama closing in on 2 million donors so far this year with 1,999,525 reported at Politico.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

    In the comments there are numerous defections from HRC due to the Bosnia lie, don't know how much weight you can give anonymous bloggers (snark) but kinda fun to read as though it's true on this fine day of resurrection.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Wonder if Hillary finally jumped the shark.
  • unrepentant_expat · 1 year ago
    Bush_Bites

    Wonder if Hillary finally jumped the shark.


    In the attempt to jump the shark, she got an eagle ray to the face.
  • bumpkis · 1 year ago
    Bumpkis, if the Palestinians are to have a state, it will be on a very tiny slice of land without natural resources, surrounded by an enemy determined to be rid of them.

    The usual rhetoric...could apply to the other side as well. I see the Saudis told Cheney they would NOT support an attack on Iran...not in US MSM though....

    I get the feeling other world governments have had their fill of this bunch and are just biding their time until they are gone....hopefully.
  • unrepentant_expat · 1 year ago
    bumpkis

    Cheney calling for a Palestinian State...yeah right. Cheney would do that...

    BREAKING NEWS Oil discovered under Palestine.
  • ccokz · 1 year ago
    What I dont get about this crap is that if she did a good job down there and Clintons effort caused peace down there between Bosnians and Serbs and now there's turmoil and its during the Bush presidency, why shouldnt she just say 'I did a marvellous job back then.' ?Republicans cause war, Im a peace-maker. Smells a bit Bush-paid.
  • DavidinChelseaMA · 1 year ago
    I voted for her in the Massachusetts primary. My bad.
  • LunaStick · 1 year ago
    Been away most of the weekend. Has hillary not dropped out yet?!
    What the hell is she waiting for?
  • peteywheats · 1 year ago
    "[Saddam] was a monster(...b)ut what I failed to grasp is that war is also a monster, and that unless one weighs all the possibly evil consequences of an abstractly moral act, one hasn't really engaged in anything much but self-righteousness." - Andrew Sullivan
  • typicalwhitegayperson · 1 year ago
    If you are checking facts. Can you check out these contradictions?

    Perhaps Obama can answer in his own words: From 'Dreams of My Father',
    "I CEASED TO ADVERTISE MY MOTHER'S RACE AT THE AGE OF 12 OR 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites"
    From Dreams of My Father, " I FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASIVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER'S RACE".
    From 'Dreams of my Father', "The emotion between the races could never be pure..... the THE OTHER RACE (WHITE) WOULD ALWAYS REMAIN JUST THAT: MENACING, ALIEN AND APART"
    From Dreams Of My Father, "never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. IT WAS INTO MY FATHER'S IMAGE , THE BLACK MAN, THE SON OF AFRICA, THAT I'D PACKED ALL THE ATTRIBUTES I SOUGHT IN MYSELF.
    From Dreams Of My Father:
    "THAT HATE HADN'T GONE AWAY," he wrote, BLAMING WHITE PEOPLE,- SOME CRUEL, SOME IGNORANT, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives."
  • LunaStick · 1 year ago
    What contradictions?
  • SarainKC · 1 year ago
    Typiclgaywhiteperson, I got the same email smear the after noon after his amazing race speech. (what they couldn't recycle "Barack is a Muslim"?). Fortunately, I have read the book they lifted the quotes from. As with the Rev Wright's speech that was cherry picked and edited to manipulate the viewer, the same is true here. What Barack is describing is youthful angst. As a teenager of bi-racial heritage, he was struggling with his identity, as every teenager does. In his case he had the additional confusion of two very different cultures to come to terms with. All of it written in the context of trying to seek approval from a man that left him at age 2. Every teenager has an internal struggle they must face to move into maturity. Some, not as complicated, but it's a necessary right of passage we all endure. You should read the book. It's beautifully written and whether your struggle had the nuance his did is irrelevant. The reader can relate, as that struggle is universal. It's just one of the many things that binds us together in our human journey. I sense, however, getting a full picture of the man is not your intent. Pardon me, but I have to say your moniker is misleading. There is nothing typical about your enthusiasm to swallow your propaganda whole as you've clearly done. I think bootlickingbrownshirt would be more appropriate.
  • shanobama · 1 year ago
    Hillary, just go, try to go out with some dignity. But please, enough. If you are not gone in June the superdelegates must meet and decide who will go.

    So, stop fighting against the inevitable, Hillary, regain some dignity this spring, and go out with some grace.
  • dad · 1 year ago
    If Hillary stops now she just might get re-elected as Senator of New York.

    A longer shot everyday.
  • dad · 1 year ago
    Hillary is a very slow runner.
  • angryafrican · 1 year ago
    I don't know if I will ever blog about the elections in the US again. There is nothing honorable in politics in the US anymore. I don't think the Founding Fathers will proud. They will be ashamed. This is a proud country. But politicians do everything to kill that honor and pride. http://angryafrican.net/2008/03/23/the-founding...
  • shanobama · 1 year ago
    Keep blogging. it's not over till it's over, as they say. We must fight on, Obama vs McCain into November.

    Get ready for the landslide punative election 2008.


    words I plagerized, my apologies Dave?

    Obama 01/20/09
  • clytemnestra · 1 year ago
    you know someone needs to do a blog called "Oops, We've Got Video"
  • skeptic99 · 1 year ago
    Excuse me-how stupid does she think we are? When was the last time any dignitary, let alone the wife of the POTUS, was allowed to land at an airport under sniper fire, and told to just run for the parked limos?
  • MrTuttle · 1 year ago
    hahaha slow runner! funny!

    My thought was more...
    "ooooh you mean THAT trip to Bosnia oooooh right "
  • simonmarc5 · 1 year ago
    The definition of insanity....over and over again!!!!!
  • QUALAR · 1 year ago
    I did not have a hearing experience with that pastor. Reverend Wright. Depends what the definition of hearing is. Oh, I did have a hearing experience, but I'm not sorry for lying 'cause it was my grandmother's fault, or was that Clinton lying about snipers? No I haven't inflated my resume - the lake was frozen over at the time. Obama.
  • SarainKC · 1 year ago
    QUALAR, Typicalwhitegayperson. I see GOP Troll Central doesn't close down for holidays. sign.
  • Measured_Response · 1 year ago
    YouTube gave us Obama/Wright and now Hillary/Sniper fire. I think I liked it better when they shot from the hip unscripted, it made things interesting. I just hope everything is not homogenized forever, dam YouTube, lol.
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    SarainKC is right, and to my list of those in great danger I add Barack Hussein Obama.
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    More than these particular lies by Hillary Rodham Clinton is the absolute stupidity of them. She thought no one would check this out? And now with this video proof, how can she spin it away?
    Worse yet, if her campaign is sunk, what will the slightly blue version of the Neo coup d'etat do? It's foolish to think they will give up their seizure of our government and all of its gains under GW Bush. Their plan is not going away just because Option 2 has shot herself. Cheney is setting things up for an Iran attack; if it is do be done, it has to be soon - Clinton is forcing their actions to be sooner than was planned for. These are very dangerous times, for us and for the Iranians.

    Although not quite as cool, the flat threads make comments much easier to follow.
  • bumpkis · 1 year ago
    Cheney calling for a Palestinian State...yeah right. Cheney would do that.
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    Bumpkis, if the Palestinians are to have a state, it will be on a very tiny slice of land without natural resources, surrounded by an enemy determined to be rid of them.

    Cheney, that evil m*f*r, describes Palestinians thusly:

    "It also will require a determination to keep those who are committed to violence and who refuse to accept the basic right of the other side to exist," Cheney said.

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=2008-03...