AMERICAblog: Obama and Reid need to tell Daschle and Feingold to STFU
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
look on the bright side.
Rush Limbaugh will stroke. out.
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
This is why the Republicans win White House elections. This is why the Dems are portrayed by the MSM as a circular firing squad. This is why a large plurality thinks the Dems are wusses. Obama needs to start herding the cats pronto!
HereinDC
· 1 year ago
You got that right Karen.
A Republican NEVER says anything good about a Democrat....
And then these milktoasts out there fawn all over there Republican co-workers....UGH!
Oldnovice
· 1 year ago
I try to stay away from CNN, but have been reading about this at Balloon Juice this morning. Meh.
bish8
· 1 year ago
With "friends" like these who needs enemies.
bluestockton
· 1 year ago
Can we change the party's name to Demowimps?
BorninUSA
· 1 year ago
Really sorry to hear this. Thought both Daschle and Feingold were above this. Will we ever hear a repug say ANYTHING good about a Democrat??? NEVER. ANYTHING.GOOD.
I appreciate bi-partisanship but this is not the time to express it. Now is the time we need to stick together or face the consequence of another Bush/Cheney administration.
NealB
· 1 year ago
Hey, back off Mr. Avorosis. Feingold has been a damn good Senator and an exemplary Democrat for the past decade or longer. He has a working relationship with McCain, he likes the guy, and he's willing to say so to John King. When you start to run down the best Senators we've got because they say they don't believe McCain has a bad temper, you're demonstrating that you have a hard time keeping your priorities straight and your temper in check.
John Aravosis
· 1 year ago
Really, what has Feingold done? Not what has he blown hot air about, like his stupid filibusters that he launches at the last minute, but what has he actually done? Besides giving us Atty General Ashcroft. I'm sorry, but it is reprehensible to be out there defending JohnMcCain, saying he'd be a good president, less than 3 months before the election. Re-pre-hensible
rainlillie
· 1 year ago
I agree 100 percent John.
Hardy_Haberman
· 1 year ago
They seem pretty OK with the idea of another Republican in the White House. If I recall it was a Republican in the White House who got us into the mess we are in today. Were these two part of Hillary's PUMAs?
bumpkis
· 1 year ago
Hedging their bets?
NealB
· 1 year ago
Hardy_Haberman: Like many Senators and Congressman, Feingold was neutral during the primaries. His constituents in Wisconsin were divided between several of the candidates, most of whom were his colleagues in the Senate as well. He endorsed Obama after voters decided the outcome of the nomination. He was not a Clinton backer.
jr
· 1 year ago
Daschle is a co-chair on Obama's campaign. A woman's right to choose is at stake and these 2 pricks don't care. Liebermanism isn't the exception in our party, it's the rule
Milli
· 1 year ago
John, I agree with you on this. The Dems are becoming more cowardly by the minute - if thats even possible.
I disagreed with you yesterday about whether Obama himself was fighting back at McCain strongly enough. I said he was. Well my view has changed a little because I am realizing that whenever Obama "fights back", he precedes his argument by complimenting McCain on his military service, patriotism, etc. He needs to stop doing that (along with the rest of the Dem party). That is making him look weak. If I'm defending myself from false accusations, I don't tell the accuser that I admire him or her before I fight back. Yes, he's gotta take the gloves off, and soon. Or he needs to pick a VP who will .......
P.S. Side note - When we type the name Obama in these comments, it comes up with a red line under it - meaning that its a spelling mistake. When we type the name McCain there's no red line. Whats up with the spell check bias against Obama?
Steve_in_CNJ
· 1 year ago
i'm not sure it's being "cowardly" for a democrat to go around undermining obama's campaign by reinforcing the myth that mccain is a maverick. TREACHEROUS is a better word. imagine a fellow Dem senator back in 2004 cheerily telling the press that john thune was a stand-up guy and would do just as good a job in the senate as the current majority leader. how would that have gone over? are these guys bitter for being passed over as possible veeps? it boggles the mind. do they even understand how badly this country and much of the world has been fucked over by republicans in their lifetimes?
marblex
· 1 year ago
Why are you peeps stressing out on this sideshow? You know as well as I there aint gonna be an election. When the bankers collapse the US Economy next month, chaos will ensue, martial law will be imposed and elections will be canceled.
If by some miracle (?) the election is allowed to go forward, the results have been preordained 51/49 McCain brought to you by Diebold. That's why the phony polls are preparing Boobus Americanus for another "close" republican "win."
Get a clue, QQ moar and realize this: We cannot possibly fix the republic by engaging the same political process that destroyed it.
gaiilonfong
· 1 year ago
Feingold is a poser......and a jealous basturd...his pac stopped getting money from me and should get nuttin from anybody he is the Arlen Specter of the Dems
barts
· 1 year ago
We're going to lose this election because the democrats are just too nice!
travers
· 1 year ago
Only an impertinent little prick would tell Feingold to STFU. How dare you John? Long before there was a Saint Barry, Russ was doing the hard work. Thanks your lucky stars he's in the Senate. Today is the day americablog officially became unreadable. Shame on you. Go Badgers! Go Russ !
billyh
· 1 year ago
This post is typical of why many independently-minded voters (an increasingly large segment of the population) think Democrats are a divisive lot, their tragic flaw being they don't think they are. We are to believe Dems alone are on the high road, do no wrong and are a saintly bunch. But power brokers like John Edwards who lie about the tragedy of their family unity continue to show that it ain't necessarily so.
I wondered about WI's Fiengold--who I had hoped would run for Pres in '04. He was one of two dozen Dems who did not mandate for Bush his assault on Iraq--when his state's primary delivered 58% of the vote for O. Still, months afterward, WI's junior, but outspoken, senator would not endorse the man. Sometime later he said he was for him but that was not his formal endorsement which came only as the nomination was secured. Grudge, or politicking at its best?
I haven't seen the McCain piece on CNN. I did accidentally see .5 of the Obama one when I was flipping channels (I was actually looking for the jewelry channel) after watching local Reno news interview our delegate who will address the DNC convention on Wednesday night along with the new VP.
But Russ will have to work with McC once this election is over. Either as an important and influential Senator, or as POTUS. Both Russ and McC are important chairs who have tremendous influence over the Senate. If Democrats are finally able to champion a vision of a green future it will only happen with John McCain's help.
I, too, have respected John McCain. I was certain he would be the Republican nominee in 2000 to lose to Gore. His senate history was that of a maverick Republican--bucking the group as a whole to vote for what he believed was right, not what was what came down from GOP leadership, which more and more Reps fall in line to do.
But the Republicans had a new strategist on their team: a religious zealot from around these parts (Sparks and Carson City, NV), who's fervor pushed him to embrace propaganda and lies, but that's OK, it was in the name of God: Karl Rove. For Republicans it was Bush all the way through lying cheating, interfering with the democratic process
McCain had done more than most Democrats--and certainly more than the Clintons--for environmentalism in the '90s. I'm tired of the "Piscean" war that is bi-partisanism and cronyism. And Senators Daschle and Feingold are obviously in tune with it as well. Though Daschle is largely irrelevant. His minority/majority leadership at the time of the Iraq war was flaccid and mousy at best. We needed a Dem to stand up to the neocons and we did not find it in Daschle who supported Cheney's efforts to destroy Iraq and plunder its oil. Yes, indeed. Mission Accomplished. Perhaps he's sore that his early and strong support for O hasn't resulted in deeper advisory ties with the campaign.
Steve_in_CNJ
· 1 year ago
so McCain was upstanding before he wasn't. a good husband before he wasn't. an environmentalist before he wasn't. against corruption before he wasn't. i'm not buying the crapola coming from McCain apologists. the man is a skunk. if somebody in my family were behaving like this, i'd say the same thing.
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Rush Limbaugh will stroke. out.
A Republican NEVER says anything good about a Democrat....
And then these milktoasts out there fawn all over there Republican co-workers....UGH!
Will we ever hear a repug say ANYTHING good about a Democrat???
NEVER. ANYTHING.GOOD.
I appreciate bi-partisanship but this is not the time to express it. Now is the time we need to stick together or face the consequence of another Bush/Cheney administration.
I disagreed with you yesterday about whether Obama himself was fighting back at McCain strongly enough. I said he was. Well my view has changed a little because I am realizing that whenever Obama "fights back", he precedes his argument by complimenting McCain on his military service, patriotism, etc. He needs to stop doing that (along with the rest of the Dem party). That is making him look weak. If I'm defending myself from false accusations, I don't tell the accuser that I admire him or her before I fight back. Yes, he's gotta take the gloves off, and soon. Or he needs to pick a VP who will .......
P.S. Side note - When we type the name Obama in these comments, it comes up with a red line under it - meaning that its a spelling mistake. When we type the name McCain there's no red line. Whats up with the spell check bias against Obama?
If by some miracle (?) the election is allowed to go forward, the results have been preordained 51/49 McCain brought to you by Diebold. That's why the phony polls are preparing Boobus Americanus for another "close" republican "win."
Get a clue, QQ moar and realize this: We cannot possibly fix the republic by engaging the same political process that destroyed it.
he is the Arlen Specter of the Dems
Thanks your lucky stars he's in the Senate. Today is the day americablog officially became unreadable. Shame on you. Go Badgers! Go Russ !
I wondered about WI's Fiengold--who I had hoped would run for Pres in '04. He was one of two dozen Dems who did not mandate for Bush his assault on Iraq--when his state's primary delivered 58% of the vote for O. Still, months afterward, WI's junior, but outspoken, senator would not endorse the man. Sometime later he said he was for him but that was not his formal endorsement which came only as the nomination was secured. Grudge, or politicking at its best?
I haven't seen the McCain piece on CNN. I did accidentally see .5 of the Obama one when I was flipping channels (I was actually looking for the jewelry channel) after watching local Reno news interview our delegate who will address the DNC convention on Wednesday night along with the new VP.
But Russ will have to work with McC once this election is over. Either as an important and influential Senator, or as POTUS. Both Russ and McC are important chairs who have tremendous influence over the Senate. If Democrats are finally able to champion a vision of a green future it will only happen with John McCain's help.
I, too, have respected John McCain. I was certain he would be the Republican nominee in 2000 to lose to Gore. His senate history was that of a maverick Republican--bucking the group as a whole to vote for what he believed was right, not what was what came down from GOP leadership, which more and more Reps fall in line to do.
But the Republicans had a new strategist on their team: a religious zealot from around these parts (Sparks and Carson City, NV), who's fervor pushed him to embrace propaganda and lies, but that's OK, it was in the name of God: Karl Rove. For Republicans it was Bush all the way through lying cheating, interfering with the democratic process
McCain had done more than most Democrats--and certainly more than the Clintons--for environmentalism in the '90s. I'm tired of the "Piscean" war that is bi-partisanism and cronyism. And Senators Daschle and Feingold are obviously in tune with it as well. Though Daschle is largely irrelevant. His minority/majority leadership at the time of the Iraq war was flaccid and mousy at best. We needed a Dem to stand up to the neocons and we did not find it in Daschle who supported Cheney's efforts to destroy Iraq and plunder its oil. Yes, indeed. Mission Accomplished. Perhaps he's sore that his early and strong support for O hasn't resulted in deeper advisory ties with the campaign.