Improved ratings are due to lowered public expectations.
devlzadvocate
· 2 months ago
I'm trying to figure out why I even care about Obama's poll numbers.
He doesn't care about what I think.
Griffon
· 2 months ago
This is artifice.
Obama's concessions to corporate lobbyists are paying either dividends in supposed 'approval rating increases,' or Obama is getting the clear communication that his non-interference is approved by his corporate masters.
Obama voted to conceal bush's telecom crimes and block CREW's attempts to unearth the truth. Obama discouraged investigations on every single front of bush's war crimes.
He's done nothing worthy of approval, much less increases. This is deception.
Horse Bootley
· 2 months ago
Where is the frigging poll, John? You could have posted it, for heaven's sake.
devlzadvocate
· 2 months ago
Could be the uptick is due to the significant movement toward progressive thought on big issues - marriage equality, conduct of war, environment, health care.
Yep, that's it.
mirth
· 2 months ago
Yeah well, check Gallup's tracking of his disapprovals.
The reason his approval rating went down in the first place was due to the fact that he was being too bipartisan and not fighting hard enough for a strong public option. It's not hard to figure out why they've ticked up. I guarantee you it was because he's starting to act more like a progressive DEMOCRAT.
devlzadvocate
· 2 months ago
And you can tell that by . . . ???? Did he give you a secret signal during the last speech?
osage
· 2 months ago
I love it when Republicans confuse Democratic disapproval of Obama, which can go up and down, with Republican dsapproval, which can't go any lower than it always has been. What do Republicans do to make Obama's polling numbers go up or down.....disapprove more or less harshly?
devlzadvocate
· 2 months ago
I love it when people can discern my political leaning by reading two sentences that I wrote.
osage
· 2 months ago
So, you're just a dilettante trying to sound like a deep thinker with sniping innuendo?
devlzadvocate
· 2 months ago
Just a blogger using colloquial English. Not trying to impress.
mainer
· 2 months ago
Note that the daily tracking polls give lower numbers and pull down the poll averages. The other ones do lots and lots of call backs and get a sample that is more representative, as it gets folks who aren't home as much to pick up the phone.
synical
· 2 months ago
As mirth noted the Gallup tracking numbers are a little concerning--especially the jump from Sept 29-Oct 1st approval/disapproval of 54/38 to the current approval/disapproval of 50/43. There are minor fluctuations but these numbers aren't heading in the right direction at the moment.
If he's improving overall it is good news in the sense that the thugs messaging is failing miserably. And even with my policy disagreements with this administration, proof that the thugs (with media assist) are not gaining a foothold with their messaging is always a very good thing.
Heh, and they backed off on going after Grayson. They must have realized giving him more attention and air time was a really bad idea.
Butch1
· 2 months ago
Grayson has a spine and the more the media pushes him, them more he pushes back telling them what they should be paying attention to rather than finally aiming a few salvos at the repubicans.
nancy50
· 2 months ago
Democrats want to love this guy. He has done nothing but spit in our general direction since January 20th, but with the smallest of signs that this is the guy that we dated during the election, every bad thing is forgotten. Not by me, mind you, since I have never been polled on anything. Americans are stupid and have very little knowledge of actual policy or politics, and can be swayed by something as insignificant as a president taking his wife out to celebrate their 17th wedding anniversary, or pics of the dog or the kids or POTUS playing basketball...
Butch1
· 2 months ago
Nice that he can take his wife out to celebrate their 17 years of matrimony. I've been with my partner for over 28 years and we're still fighting for the right to be married. I know, we are supposed to shut up and sit down and make nice. Obama will know when the time is right, meanwhile, quit complaining. Yea, I know . . . ( third party )
nancy50
· 2 months ago
I hope you're watching Jon Stewart tonight - he slammed Obama and the Sec of the Navy (his guest tonight) on DADT.
Butch1
· 2 months ago
Shoot. I missed it. Perhaps, I can catch a re-run of it a little later. Thanks for the warning.
cowboyneok
· 2 months ago
Good for Jon Stewart! He is a mensch!
evie
· 2 months ago
A link would be nice. How are we supposed to know which poll you're referring to? There are a myriad.
naschkatzehussein
· 2 months ago
AP. Gallup has him flat.
coolcatdaddy
· 2 months ago
Well, this isn't surprising.
When the public sees Republicans going around foaming at the mouth like they have rabies, they look at Obama and think "Meh ... at least he's not stark raving mad...."
vkobaya
· 2 months ago
Republicans going around foaming at the mouth like they have rabies,
Eye balls spinning, little sparks jumping off the ends of their hair, straight jacket torn open, pants unfastened and unzippered, shoe on only one foot, ... Oh yeah ... not like, no like about it, Republicans have chronic rabies.
Ivyfree
· 2 months ago
That was my first thought. Obama hasn't done as much as we'd have liked- or as fast- but nobody could do everything immediately. However, the Republicans are acting like idiots and they're quite open about opposing anything Obama wants- and people know that's stupid, and they know Obama's under attack. People are really tired of republicans.
My issues with the numbers as I asked elsewhere is not the numbers, but why the inconsistency between his numbers and those for Democrats running next year? I know it is a year out, but as a snapshot, why the gap? My concern is that President Obama's numbers are about his popularity rather than about either his agenda or that of the Democratic Party. We saw this in the 1990s with President Clinton who lost both houses in 1994. I do not think that losing the Congress is going to happen next year. But what could happen is that there are significant loses, and, rather than those loses being blamed on conservative policies, progressives will be blamed. Thus Clinton II in President Obama's actions after the midterms.
nancy50
· 2 months ago
It's always been a popularity contest when it comes to Obama. He really hasn't stayed at any one job to actually accomplish anything. He was elected because he said he would not have voted for the war, an easy claim since he was not in a position to vote for or against it. It has always been his charisma that has fired his success. Now is the time to back up the charisma with substance and I'm not seeing it.
megatronbomb
· 2 months ago
Not to be all conspiracy theory, but I don't believe this for a second. I know too many people who were all hot and heavy for Obama during the election and have since grown pretty cold towards him.
kugelschreiber
· 2 months ago
A lot of my friends are vegetarians. Therefore, most Americans are vegetarians.
Butch1
· 2 months ago
I think it may be because the W.H. continues to mention that Obama is for a public health care plan ( when he's not ). He is now being associated with wanting some form of a govern- ment plan. The public is in favor of this and they see the Senate obstructing this alla Baucus et al.
vkobaya
· 2 months ago
Proves the poll was honest and a random sampling.
rightright
· 2 months ago
Thanks for being too #*#&#& dumb to know when you have won a round---makes me certain to know we will still be standing after the match. Then again, the kind of "rounds" that you participate in are, well, "different", aren't they?
superstition
· 2 months ago
His smoke and mirrors about health care (the speech) coupled with the aftermath of the town halls (people wising up about them) is likely the combo that is responsible for this.
PresPlatitudes
· 2 months ago
uh, get real.
he basically went on some shows and said the right things. he wouldn't have half that rating if people knew how two-faced he really was, and knew about all his maneuvering AGAINST the public option behind the scenes.
mainer
· 2 months ago
You evidently haven't read the recent articles about how the WH is pushing for the public options in meetings with Senate moderates. In other words, you have this backwards.
PresPlatitudes
· 2 months ago
which public options are these? the ones they're precariously rebranding "public options"? from a few days ago:
now, that was a sourced and well-reasoned article supporting my claim.
"In other words, you have this backwards."
with all due respect, i'm not convinced that you know what you're talking about. and as far as obama "pushing for the public option," care to link to any sources? almost all recent reports consistently point to the opposite. which senate moderates? if you're arguing in good faith, i'd love to see where this goes, so i'll be waiting for your links.
PresPlatitudes
· 2 months ago
LOL.
why am i not surprised at your complete failure to provide anything resembling support for your ludicrous statement. nice try though
sonofloud
· 2 months ago
I don't know where you are getting your numbers since the above article doesn't mention it but every poll I have seen still has Obama at 50% to 52% approval except for the cbs/ny times poll which has him at 56%.
Guest
· 2 months ago
I don't believe it...who did they ask for this poll? Is it the medias way of getting up his polls..saying people like him again will get him more popular with the other people that don't know what is going on.
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He doesn't care about what I think.
Obama's concessions to corporate lobbyists are paying either dividends in supposed 'approval rating increases,' or Obama is getting the clear communication that his non-interference is approved by his corporate masters.
Obama voted to conceal bush's telecom crimes and block CREW's attempts to unearth the truth. Obama discouraged investigations on every single front of bush's war crimes.
He's done nothing worthy of approval, much less increases. This is deception.
Yep, that's it.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-...
If he's improving overall it is good news in the sense that the thugs messaging is failing miserably. And even with my policy disagreements with this administration, proof that the thugs (with media assist) are not gaining a foothold with their messaging is always a very good thing.
Heh, and they backed off on going after Grayson. They must have realized giving him more attention and air time was a really bad idea.
When the public sees Republicans going around foaming at the mouth like they have rabies, they look at Obama and think "Meh ... at least he's not stark raving mad...."
Eye balls spinning, little sparks jumping off the ends of their hair, straight jacket torn open, pants unfastened and unzippered, shoe on only one foot, ... Oh yeah ... not like, no like about it, Republicans have chronic rabies.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALe...
he basically went on some shows and said the right things. he wouldn't have half that rating if people knew how two-faced he really was, and knew about all his maneuvering AGAINST the public option behind the scenes.
http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/10/04/...
now, that was a sourced and well-reasoned article supporting my claim.
"In other words, you have this backwards."
with all due respect, i'm not convinced that you know what you're talking about. and as far as obama "pushing for the public option," care to link to any sources? almost all recent reports consistently point to the opposite. which senate moderates? if you're arguing in good faith, i'd love to see where this goes, so i'll be waiting for your links.
why am i not surprised at your complete failure to provide anything resembling support for your ludicrous statement. nice try though