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AMERICAblog: Obama did the right thing. It's time for McCain to stop the race-baiting

  • S_in_Tokyo · 1 year ago
    It used to astonish me that everything piece of news was turned into a Hillary bash on this site. But it's beyond astonishing now; it's ridiculous.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    fox news. no wonder fox watchers don't know what's going on in the world..

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/29/fox-ne...
  • dad · 1 year ago
    But the Clintons started it.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Screw it.

    McCain's a pasty faced little twerp.

    Just keep attacking him and he'll fold.
  • JayR · 1 year ago
    Clinton also needs to explain her relationship with the dictator loving Doug Coe.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Again, I don't get it.

    Hillary can say whatever she wants in front of a "straight" crowd and, if it looks like she's losing gay support, she just has to do an interview for a gay paper and everything's OK.

    Obama, meanwhile, can go into a black church and rip them for homophobia, but if he doesn't do an interview with the same gay paper, he's dirt in their eyes.

    Sorry, I'm not gay so maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like some gay leaders are like the fundie leaders....more concerned with getting their rings kissed than looking out for the best interests of their people.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    commenters ...

    are the comments showing up in chronological order for you?
    they aren't for me...
  • DCinDC · 1 year ago
    Here is the real deal:

    The National Republican Congressional Committee has purchased $500,000 in anti-Barack Obama ads for use in two upcoming special House elections. The Republican National Committee is flooding reporters with anti-Obama emails. Presumptive nominee John McCain and GOP surrogates have seized on new remarks by Obama’s controversial former pastor.

    From top to bottom, from McCain down to the youthful campaign and party staffers who work nearly around the clock to get him elected, the working assumption seems to be that the Democratic contest is over and Obama has won.

    Even when Clinton attacks McCain, President Bush or GOP policies, the response is either outright silence or snarky, dismissive ridicule about a failed campaign barely relevant enough to merit a response.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9964....
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Clinton is more than prepared to assist the Bush regime in attacking Iran. After all, she would "obliterate" them. And she's already voted to attack them.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/29/eveni...

    The Clown in the WH made no mention of this yesterday even when rudely smacking down a reporter. No mention on this blog.

    Is it coincidental that today Iran totally stops trading in dollars for its oil?

    Haven't we been there before with Iraq which was not trading in dollars when the the Bush Oil Cartel invaded it? They made up lies then, they're making up lies now. And didn't Clinton cast her lot with Bush when she voted for Kyl-Lieberman? Based on what? Bad judgment once again?
  • dad · 1 year ago
    tlsintx, try "OPTIONS +" button
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    dad-
    where is this button you speak of?
  • Happy_Housewife · 1 year ago
    No! Don't dump Hagee!!! What we need is a ballsy 527 to push the Catholic Church=Whore thing!!! I'm telling you - that would be a very divisive issue for the GOP.

    Catholics and fundies have gotten way too cozy in the last several years anyway - time for those good, old-fashioned prejudices to come floating back to the surface.
  • KansasModerate · 1 year ago
    Joe

    I totally agree with you about the need for McCain to clearly repudiate Hagee as the religious right bigot he is.

    But you're off base in your obsession with the North Carolina governor's use of the word "pansy". Every one I've talked to (who heard it) assumed he used "pansy" to mean wimp. The only people claiming he meant "gay" are those of you who write this blog's posts.
  • michaelt · 1 year ago
    man, that pansy thing seems to have really ticked you off.
  • profmarcus · 1 year ago
    nobody but NOBODY has bothered to mention that there is a richard viguerie-led, conservative campaign to CENSURE john mccain for DARING to even ATTEMPT to confront the nc race-baiting... check this out from an email i received from viguerie...
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    Dear Fellow Conservative,

    It’s time for John McCain to apologize to North Carolina Republicans.

    Please sign our petition, at ConservativeHQ.com, calling on him to do so. (The petition is at http://conservativehq.com/active-petitions/mcca....)

    As you probably know, Senator McCain attacked the North Carolina GOP as “out of touch with reality and with the Republican Party” for running an ad criticizing the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Senator Barack Obama, along with two gubernatorial candidates who endorsed Obama. He suggested that their ad was out of place in the “party of Abraham Lincoln.”

    As Rush Limbaugh noted this afternoon, McCain was essentially calling North Carolina Republicans racist.

    Yet even Obama admitted, yesterday on “Fox News Sunday,” that his ties to Wright are a legitimate issue. And, after Obama gave him permission, McCain chose to criticize the Democratic frontrunner’s connection with Wright.

    Time after time, Senator McCain has criticized Republicans and conservatives for their legitimate criticism of Democrats and liberals. It seems that he has leapt at every opportunity to apologize for the behavior of his own party.

    Isn’t it time he apologized to us? At least, he should apologize to the North Carolina Republicans whom he smeared as “out of touch with reality” and out of place in the party of Lincoln.

    Of course, he won’t apologize unless there is an avalanche of demands that he do so.

    That’s why it’s so important that you sign our petition, at ConservativeHQ.com (http://conservativehq.com/active-petitions/mcca...) and that you pass this e-mail along to your friends and others who might agree with you.

    If John McCain keeps alienating himself from the people whose support he needs the most, soon there won’t be anyone left to alienate.

    Please join us in calling on Senator McCain to apologize to Republicans of North Carolina.

    Sincerely,
    Richard A. Viguerie

    ConservativeHQ.com
    9625 Surveyor Court
    Suite 400
    Manassas, Virginia 20110
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    st. mccain is getting from both sides... damned if he does and damned if he doesn't... poor baby...

    http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    the 'pansy thing' isn't as innocent as some think...mike easley has an icky history of selective pandering when it comes to gay rights...

    http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/30/governor-mike...
  • Ginger_FL · 1 year ago
    While the US MSM seems obsessed with playground banter and gossip,
    foreign media covers actual news:

    http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/2E75427B...

    Dozens die in Baghdad fighting

    Dozens of people have been killed in fierce fighting in the Sadr City area of Iraq's capital, Baghdad.

    The latest clashes started when Shia fighters ambushed a US patrol.
  • jimpharo · 1 year ago
    Hard to see any reason to hope that 2008 will be any different than previous Presidential elections. The press' piling on the "Wright Affair" is just a sample of the nonsense that will be peddled throughout the election (no matter who the Democratic nominee is).

    It's easy to blame the press, which no doubt bears a large share of the responsibility for ending the madness. But where are the Democratic 527's running Hagee ads? Where are the elected Dems who are calling on McCain to denounce, repudiate, etc.?


    We cannot expect to be successful if we don't show vigor in our campaigns. Kerry came to be seen as ineffective in his responses to Swift Boat, just as Obama risks the same thing here. (And if HRC were the leader, or the candidate Republicans feared more, then she too would be portrayed as unable to stop the media firestorm over "Pardon-gate" or whatever phone-baloney controversy was ginned up to smear her.)
  • Houndentenor · 1 year ago
    NO MORE GOTCHA POLITICS.

    No one is responsible for what I say and do but me. I am not responsible for what anyone else says and does. This is all a distraction from more serious matters.

    Yes, the Governor should apologize for the pansy comment. It was dumb more than it was offensive but it was wrong and he needs to do his own mea culpa. I don't care if HRC liked it or didn't. I care about what she will say and do (and her own record, if you include her husband which she always seems to take credit for, is ABYSMAL. She should apologize for DOMA and DADT, not for an idiotic comment made by someone else.
  • bulldog909 · 1 year ago
    There is a fundamental difference between Hagee and Wright. Hagee is a loon who supports McCain. Wright is a loon supported by Obama. Obama donates thousands to Wright, calls him his Uncle, used his sermon to title his book, baptize his kids, marry him, and be a close advisor for 2 decades. McCain's connection to Hagee is 'thanks for your support, ok now I'm outta here to the next fundraiser'. Regarding the NC commercial, first he can not coordinate their activities - that violates election law. Second, how is it racist? Sure it attacks Obama for the things his close associate said, but where is race in that? Expect Obama to be attacked for his connection to weatherman terrorist Ayres also. Obama made some bad choices in selecting friends, and as one has said "the chickens are coming home to roost". Hillary has her faults, but she has a better chance than Obama.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    pansy power...maybe O'Reilly will ask Hillary about it tonight on The Factor..*erp*

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/29/b...
  • wrowand · 1 year ago
    I think the "pansy" thing is silly. Here's some dialogue from "Madagascar":

    Julian: They're just a bunch of pansies.
    Maurice: I don't know. There's still something about that one with the crazy hairdo that I find suspicious.
    Julian: Nonsense, Maurice. Come on, everybody! Let's go and meet the pansies!

    Should we all boycott Dreamworks now?
  • jr · 1 year ago
    "I'm not giving that commie MLK a holiday"-John McCain
  • bulldog909 · 1 year ago
    Really childish to make up quotes and attribut them to others, "JR". Just like DNC head Dean with his edited commercial to distort McCain's answer. I guess republicans can now do that in their commercials. How about an edited pieced together video of Obama saying "I want to surrender to islamic terrorists and adopt Sharia law here in the USA" ? Would that be OK? Are there no standards now? Truth doesn't matter? Disgusting.
  • shanobama · 1 year ago
    Are you trying to defend McCain? Because even his political mentor, here in Arizona, Mr. Barry Goldwater himself was distancing himself from Johnny boy before his death.
  • bulldog909 · 1 year ago
    I don't like trash politics. When you start lying about a candidate, expect his supporters to lie about you, and the whole process goes into the gutter. McCain never said "I'm not giving that commie a holiday", and Dean edited his answer on the Iraq war to distort what he said, which is also a lie. Win on issues and superior ideas, convince people on the other side you are right. Otherwise we stay in this Red/Blue state BS and fight like children and accomplish nothing.
  • vegasbaby · 1 year ago
    let's go to the tape bob....

    pastor hagee in his own words

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uViQ0hVV57Q
  • vegasbaby · 1 year ago
    let's go to the tape once again bob

    hillary and her spiritual advisor "the family's" Doug Coe

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5ZPeVowxHQ
  • AngryOne · 1 year ago
    62 days after he declared himself "very proud" and "honored" to the have the endorsement of the End Times Pastor John Hagee, Republican John McCain still has not answered - or even been asked - the question that should concern all Americans:

    Does John McCain agree with Pastor John Hagee that war with Iran is the fulfillment of the biblical prophecy of Armageddon?

    For the details, see:
    "Obama Disavows Wright; McCain Still Silent on Hagee, Armageddon and Iran."
  • Viceroy · 1 year ago
    Nuts. Whether you like it or not, whether you want to admit it or not, Rev. Wright represents from where Obama comes. Obama chose to join that church with that pastor preaching that form of "liberation" (i.e. hateful and racist) theology, and he chose to remain there for twenty years. He knew that Wright was way out of the mainstream, that is why he disinivited him to come to his announcement of his candidacy in Springfield. Nonetheless, it is unquestionable that Rev. Wright's association with Obama is profound and completely relevant to the question of who Obama is, which is in turn far more important than health care etc. (remember social security reform being one of the big issues of 2000, how important is that now?). It is not racism to: 1) be appalled at Rev. Wright, and 2) to worry about someone who had such a close association with a man who is at best a crank, and at worse is dangerous and evil Finally, the comparison of Obama and Wright to McCain and Hagee is ridiculous. It is as if you are comparing the influence and importance of a one-night stand with someone with whom you have lived for twenty years. It is just silly and dumb, which is why it is not working in the least - even MSNBC has let it go..