AMERICAblog: Obama march towards nomination picks up speed as more delegates come his way
Milli
· 1 year ago
It was mentioned on Keith Olbermann last night (by who I can't remember) that she may not know whats going on because she's being sheltered from all of this. Can that be true?
dad
· 1 year ago
last call for the D train
tickets, please.
lynchie
· 1 year ago
Milli: if that is true she has no qualifications to run as President. I do believe that Bill and his gang continue to blow smoke up her skirt and convince her she can still win, that they can strong arm super delegates, that it can all be overturned. so if that is sheltering you may be right. At some point she has to be reading the newspapers and watching the evening shows.
Now, keep in mind, it was Hillary Clinton herself who talked about how pledged delegates could switch under the DNC rules. So, delegates are starting to switch, but away from her.
Funny how everything she says ends up biting her in the ass.
"It's all about delegates."
"The Supers will decide"
"The pledged delegates can switch"
dad
· 1 year ago
long april and may, too
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
It was mentioned on Keith Olbermann last night (by who I can't remember) that she may not know whats going on because she's being sheltered from all of this. Can that be true?
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I could see that.
She has a lot of consultants who are making a lot of money by keeping the thing going.
Not to mention a husband who seems personally invested in keeping it going too.
I don't see anybody who is going to sit her down and say "it's over."
mr_ed
· 1 year ago
My sister, who went to Yale law school with Hillary tried to get through with this message. No reply, not even a thankyew.
tbhull
· 1 year ago
I do not remember such a clear front runner at the beginning driving the campaign into the ditch to such a degree, all without getting caught in a scandal. The Clinton campaign represents a castastrophic and monumentalfailure of epic proportions not to be outdone for a long while.
intotheabyss81
· 1 year ago
Bush_Bites "She has a lot of consultants who are making a lot of money by keeping the thing going."
Consultants: If your not part of the solution-there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.
vickif
· 1 year ago
When Hillary said that pledged delagates can switch she only meant from Obama to her not the other way around.. Tough luck.
Butch1
· 1 year ago
Michigan and Florida chose to break the rules and their fate was they could not have their delegates sit at the convention and vote. This was agreed upon by Hillary Clinton ( and Obama ) when she was the frontrunner. She has been flip-flopping ever since and apparently isn't a "woman of her word." ( that sounds so strange since we are used to hearing it said , " a man of his word." ) Everyone agrees one shouldn't change the rules of the game during play especially when the game isn't going your direction. Sorry, Hillary, stiff upper lip, suck it in, and deal with it like an honorable person would do. Get out of the way of change, quit fighting, let it happen. Get on board or just get out of the way, period.
crabby
· 1 year ago
Senator Obama was on the Florida ballot, he also had ads running in both states...he took his name off the ballot in Michigan & then tried to put in back on again, but was too late...He ran ads in that State as well. Florida & Michigan are part of the United States & the voters are entitled to have their voices heard just like the rest of us.
It was not the voters that messed up, it was all a political blunder that caused this mess, (DNC)...so the voters of those states cannot have their voices heard...Shame on you..how would you like to be thrown aside?
Senator Obama was asked if he was ok with those states holding another election paid for by the DNC & he said no.... Senator Obama is NOT what he appears to be either...
Butch1
· 1 year ago
"It was not the voters that messed up, it was all a political blunder that caused this mess, (DNC)...so the voters of those states cannot have their voices heard...Shame on you..how would you like to be thrown aside?" - Crabby. ================================================================== You act like Obama did not have the right to run against Clinton in Michigan when they both agreed to not run. The results, with only one person on the ballot would not be fair in my book, though it seems that since it is Obama, it shouldn't matter from your view.
Of course, it wasn't the voters who messed up. Who do you think should be held responsible for breaking party rules? Those running the parties in those respective states broke party rules. As a result, there will be no delegates represented from those two states as the punishment for breaking them.
Spare me your lament regarding the voters will suffer as a result of this. The voters will have their chance to vote in the November election. No one will lose their vote in the November election. Both states are being punished for breaking the rules, do you think it is OK to break rules and that there should be no punishment for doing so regardless? Would you have the same feelings if it were Obama whining about those two states? Please, Crabby....
crabby
· 1 year ago
it does not matter who won in those 2 states...this is something that the bush administration would attempt to do...i originally supported Senator Obama...as a registered republician who changed affiliations to vote in the dem primary...however after seeing the racial divide because the black voters backed Senator Obama regardless of his solutions & experience, but only because of the color of his skin...
that turned me totally off...then i started looking to exactly what his experience was & what he had done since he has been a senator, which amounts to almost nothing except to vote for the bush/chaney energy bill where Senator Clinton did not...that turned me onto her.
however going back to the issues..if american citizens can have their votes taken away from them then this country and the DNC might as well side with the current administration...regardless of who won the states...
florida & michigan are states in this country...if the politicians screw this up then shame on them...not the voters....
wise up
Butch1
· 1 year ago
". . .however going back to the issues..if american citizens can have their votes taken away from them then this country and the DNC might as well side with the current administration...regardless of who won the states...
florida & michigan are states in this country...if the politicians screw this up then shame on them...not the voters....
wise up" - Crabby ============================================================= You continue to miss the point and your logic sounds like you been voting republican by leaving out all the important FACTS that you seem to miss when lamenting about the poor citizens losing their vote. ( They will be voting in November and that is a fact.)
Kindly, pay attention,
1.Again, the point is democrats in both states chose to ignore the Democratic Party rules on who votes first. 2. The consequences for doing that is they both lost the chance for their delegates to vote in the Democratic Convention regardless of whether you think it is right or wrong. 3. The voters of both states will be able to vote like all the other citizens of this country in the November election. You continue to ignore this fact. 4. I also think that the voters were not blind to their state party by jumping the gun and them running to vote early. THEY DID PARTICIPATE IN VOTING EARLY VIOLATING THE RULES, HOW ELSE CAN THERE BE VOTES TO COUNT IF THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR VOTING, THEREFORE, THEY ARE AS CULPABLE AS THE STATE PARTY ITSELF.
Wise up, indeed!
crabby
· 1 year ago
Jonathan_Justice
· 1 year ago
We may be on to something here. Last night, my terminally Republican 82 year old aunt told me she was so impressed with the North Carolina victory speech that she would like to vote for Barack Obama, and this morning I see that my Indiana Second District Congressman, Joe Donnelly, will do just that at the Convention. Mr. Donnelly stayed formally neutral through our awesome 1.2 million voter Indiana Democratic Primary, and then went for Obama.
If he had not already died when Bill Clinton was first elected President (Not the Clinton's fault, but it does have a certain ring to it.), my father would die of the conflict he would be experiencing watching the best speeches in years being made by the candidate of what he would see as the wrong party. He loved a good speech, and taught speech and history before he started a career of law and politics which saw him vote for 'Right to Work' legislation in one session of the General Assembly, and then against it at the next.
So perhaps it would be nice if Disqus would stop flagging is Mr. Obama's name, and their own, as misspelled words.
jr
· 1 year ago
"whiteness is more important than 20 million dollars of campaign debt"-Hillary
slappymagoo
· 1 year ago
I'm pro-Obama, but the important phrase in the article is "at that pace." There's no guarantee Obama will continue to pick up superdelegates at the pace he's currently picking them up. Fingers crossed and all of that, but I have a funny feeling that at least SOME of the MSM will look at Hillary's expected win tonight - and it IS an expected win, a huge one - and try to say "Whooooooa! What's this? This was a REALLY big win! Could THIS be the game-changer Hillary's been waiting for?" The answer, of course, is no, but they won't try to answer it, they'll just let the question hang in the ether so that others may ask the question as well. By the end of this week, with the help of the MSM enhancing the drama of what everyone knows will happen tonight, suddenly MSM will try to convince the public that HRC has real honest-to-goodness mojo.
Off-topic, but Bill Nelson (D-FL) was on Bill Press this morning, saying that his state tried to change their primary back to its original date, but the state government (predominately Republican) and the governor (duh) refused to let them, and thus Florida Dems are being punished over issues over which they have no control. I have no idea how much of that is true and how much of it is spin, but I figured this would be one of the better places to ask.
mr_ed
· 1 year ago
Last week, I heard that Obama had 50 supers ready to leak out a couple at a time over the next few weeks. The number has been revised to 120, according to another source. D'ya think others read the blogs? Hmmmmm?
crabby
· 1 year ago
The amount needed to become is not 2025..Someone is forgetting to include Florida & Michigan in this count. That is unless Florida & Michiagan is not longer a part of the United States...if that is the case then the voters & delegates just don't count and then 2025 is the correct amount.
The DMC should be ashamed of themselfs...they want to decide what to do with those 2 states...How about they do the same thing with them that they did with every other state.
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tickets, please.
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Funny how everything she says ends up biting her in the ass.
"It's all about delegates."
"The Supers will decide"
"The pledged delegates can switch"
----
I could see that.
She has a lot of consultants who are making a lot of money by keeping the thing going.
Not to mention a husband who seems personally invested in keeping it going too.
I don't see anybody who is going to sit her down and say "it's over."
"She has a lot of consultants who are making a lot of money by keeping the thing going."
Consultants: If your not part of the solution-there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.
Florida & Michigan are part of the United States & the voters are entitled to have their voices heard just like the rest of us.
It was not the voters that messed up, it was all a political blunder that caused this mess, (DNC)...so the voters of those states cannot have their voices heard...Shame on you..how would you like to be thrown aside?
Senator Obama was asked if he was ok with those states holding another election paid for by the DNC & he said no....
Senator Obama is NOT what he appears to be either...
==================================================================
You act like Obama did not have the right to run against Clinton in Michigan when they both agreed to not run. The results, with only one person on the ballot would not be fair in my book, though it seems that since it is Obama, it shouldn't matter from your view.
Of course, it wasn't the voters who messed up. Who do you think should be held responsible for breaking party rules? Those running the parties in those respective states broke party rules. As a result, there will be no delegates represented from those two states as the punishment for breaking them.
Spare me your lament regarding the voters will suffer as a result of this. The voters will have their chance to vote in the November election. No one will lose their vote in the November election. Both states are being punished for breaking the rules, do you think it is OK to break rules and that there should be no punishment for doing so regardless? Would you have the same feelings if it were Obama whining about those two states? Please, Crabby....
that turned me totally off...then i started looking to exactly what his experience was & what he had done since he has been a senator, which amounts to almost nothing except to vote for the bush/chaney energy bill where Senator Clinton did not...that turned me onto her.
however going back to the issues..if american citizens can have their votes taken away from them then this country and the DNC might as well side with the current administration...regardless of who won the states...
florida & michigan are states in this country...if the politicians screw this up then shame on them...not the voters....
wise up
florida & michigan are states in this country...if the politicians screw this up then shame on them...not the voters....
wise up" - Crabby
=============================================================
You continue to miss the point and your logic sounds like you been voting republican by leaving out all the important FACTS that you seem to miss when lamenting about the poor citizens losing their vote. ( They will be voting in November and that is a fact.)
Kindly, pay attention,
1.Again, the point is democrats in both states chose to ignore the Democratic Party rules on who votes first.
2. The consequences for doing that is they both lost the chance for their delegates to vote in the Democratic Convention regardless of whether you think it is right or wrong.
3. The voters of both states will be able to vote like all the other citizens of this country in the November election. You continue to ignore this fact.
4. I also think that the voters were not blind to their state party by jumping the gun and them running to vote early. THEY DID PARTICIPATE IN VOTING EARLY VIOLATING THE RULES, HOW ELSE CAN THERE BE VOTES TO COUNT IF THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR VOTING, THEREFORE, THEY ARE AS CULPABLE AS THE STATE PARTY ITSELF.
Wise up, indeed!
If he had not already died when Bill Clinton was first elected President (Not the Clinton's fault, but it does have a certain ring to it.), my father would die of the conflict he would be experiencing watching the best speeches in years being made by the candidate of what he would see as the wrong party. He loved a good speech, and taught speech and history before he started a career of law and politics which saw him vote for 'Right to Work' legislation in one session of the General Assembly, and then against it at the next.
So perhaps it would be nice if Disqus would stop flagging is Mr. Obama's name, and their own, as misspelled words.
Off-topic, but Bill Nelson (D-FL) was on Bill Press this morning, saying that his state tried to change their primary back to its original date, but the state government (predominately Republican) and the governor (duh) refused to let them, and thus Florida Dems are being punished over issues over which they have no control. I have no idea how much of that is true and how much of it is spin, but I figured this would be one of the better places to ask.
The DMC should be ashamed of themselfs...they want to decide what to do with those 2 states...How about they do the same thing with them that they did with every other state.