Historically, Edina has equaled Republican. There has rarely been a more consistent area of the state that votes for Republicans, but the gradual shift is very evident this year, and it could become an all-Democratic year in the city known for representing the picture-perfect GOP stronghold.
Ever one of us cha-here at the First Assembly of Snake-Handling Jesus thought McCain kicked sum effing butt, praise the Lord.
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
Since when are the opinions of actual voters important?
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
the only people who believe the tv talking heads anymore are the ones who want to believe... the rest of us are desperate for change.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
The media had been working the false balance between campaigns overtime...And, each time a minor Obama example is stretched to balance an egregious McCain sin thus making that sin seem not quite so sinful. Thank God the media's never learned its lesson and continues to wound and damage the public interest and our future with trifling, off-point nonsense...Is there an Emmy category for this???
FYI--It wasn't 10 minutes after Bush spoke this AM and Today was deep into an exclusive with NYC's kittycat thug...WTF!?!?!?!
gonzalez
· 1 year ago
The conservative idiots at the Chicago Tribune Editorial Board said that McCain won. I sent them a letter to the editor and asked them to please not drink before that next debate to make sure they watch the real debate. These idiots are really nuts, they will declare McCain the winner no mater how bad he performs.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
The Chicago Tribune just doesn't understand...
Indigo
· 1 year ago
The Chicago Tribune? Would that be the Chicago Tribune of the Tribune Corporation that was bought out by Chicago real estate mogul Zell about a year ago? The same Tribune Corporation that includes the Los Angeles Times as well as the Miami Harald along with the Orlando Sentinel and the Baltimore Sun? The same Tribune Corporation whose new owner, Colonel Zell, fired half the Orlando Sentinel newsroom because readers want stories about puppy-dogs, not hard news that is distressing? That Chicago Tribune? The one colored with the crayon marked "Discredited"?
Not that I'm concerned or anything. ;-)
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
Stop, stop...You're making Gannett drool.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
way to go gonzalez...don't let em get away with that crap.
gonzalez
· 1 year ago
We all should write to these idiot that take us for idiots.
Gonzalez
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
Yep. The talking heads fans aren't going to think before they vote anyways.
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
Mrs. Greenspan is right, but it hasn't gone snotty Nicolle Wallace's or Steve "Chromedome" Schimdt's way. The "story line" is now irrevocably in place by Monday AM: McCain was "angry", didn't look at Obama (which is a problem), and didn't hit it out of the ballpark, like he was supposed to. Obama "looked" Presidential, was a nice guy, and knew his shit. A HUGE loss for McCain, and 2 more debates, regardless of the format, may not change this "story line."
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
Plus Johnny really screwed up the bail-out deal and, at the very least; he should be held accountable for any Asian sell-off...
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
McCain was exhibiting his strong area. Next two times not gonna be so good.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Palin in Arizona for 'intensive debate prep'
How much can she memorize by Thursday?
Indigo
· 1 year ago
Define "intensive."
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
Or have Mooselini spell it...
grandma
· 1 year ago
'intensive' as in the McCain campaign asked for and got ......' shorter question-and-answer segments than those for the presidential nominees,....... there will also be much less opportunity for free-wheeling, direct exchanges between the running mates.'
bunnyjump
· 1 year ago
My version of the VP debate: show Palin a world map and make her identify countries (capital cities, extra credit). I'd pay to see that.
Obama needs to really be on his toes for the second debate. Brokaw will be moderating. And we all know who Brokaw loves. It ain't Obama. Look for Brokaw to let McCain ramble on and on and on with his worn out stories to cover up his lack of knowledge on the issues. Obama will have to make his answers short because Brokaw has no time for lengthy retorts from a Democrat.
BTW I am assuming that Sarah Palin has the baby with her while she is in 'Debate Camp' in AZ. This baby is what, 5-6 months old? Shouldn't he be with his mama? Hope she has the good sense to have him with her. But when did good sense and Sarah Palin go together?
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
Hockey Moms have better strategic thinking.
Hawk
· 1 year ago
We have to overcome the GOP and McCain, that's not much of a challenge really.
We also have to defeat the Horse Race narrative MSM needs to be relevant!
Have you heard, "Could Sarah Palin's pathetic lack of basic understanding of core issues be a problem for Joe Biden in the debate" narrative?
"I'll get back to ya on that"
BorninUSA
· 1 year ago
Axelrod on MSNBC now. Talking about Bill Clinton and his disdain for Obama. Axelrod says that if Obama loses Hillary will be the leading contender in 2012.
Well, I for one will never vote for Hillary as long as she is still attached to Bill. Probably will not vote for her even if she is the leading Democratic candidate. I will never forgive the Clintons for their treatment of Obama. He is the leader of the Democratic party now and the Clintons still cannot accept that. In fact, they are all but stating publicly that they favor McCain and my feeling is they will probably vote for McCain.
BTW why was McCain invited to Bill's forum last week and not Obama? Am I wrong in thinking Obama was not invited?
Charles2
· 1 year ago
Obama addressed the forum via video from the campaign trail.
vkobaya
· 1 year ago
Something very contradictory that I would like someone to clear up. On one hand, we keep hearing how much McCain is hated by his fellow senators and especially the Republicans, but then we keep hearing how much the media loves this guy. Is he really that polarized in both cases or is it spin on our side?
DougStamate
· 1 year ago
I think it is as simple as: the Senators have to actually work with McCain, while the reporters were people McCain could use.
dad
· 1 year ago
OT, but ...
Toxic Politics And it is not that the public has not noticed. By mounting majorities, the public has come to loathe this plan. When it was introduced a small majority seemed willing to give their assent, now, the bill is as unpopular as the Office of the President that gave it birth, and the Congress that is ready to pass it. A bare fifth of the public approves of any plan based on Paulson's. One could find more supporters for abolishing the Federal Reserve, overturning the Civil Rights Act, or making Broccoli the national vegetable. More people believe in witchcraft, than believe in this bill.
A leadership, lockstep and encased in a bubble, is trying to whip and deceive the public. It is possible to fool some of the people some of the time, but this requires that all of the people become fools for all time.
Already legislators locked in honest elections, those few were the outcome is in doubt, have fled for cover. Is there any more clear indication of the public sentiment, than that those who know that the people have a choice, will choose to vote against it?
dad
· 1 year ago
This is your Democracy America, and if you are not here, now, in this moment, on this day, then what follows are an endless train of days, each one to be lived in the regret of having not stood here now. The choice is simple to war without end, and power without limit, we will add debt without accountability. It will be a burden too much, too heavy, too far.
Hawk
· 1 year ago
Also the race needs to be close because...
"the machines have taken over, your job is to provide electicity and a controlled temp for them. Oh, you don't think those machines care about your opinion do you?" Scott Adams
...they can turn a 7% race where they need to!
lies
· 1 year ago
Palin to step down within next 48 hours.... so goes the rumor on DK and a few other places...
Probably not true, but buckle your seat belts!
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
here's some BS spin from ed rollins...not only is mcCain a gambler, he's the heroic underdog and poor Obama just can't close the sale...rollins spins the "gambler' line to distract voters from McCain's real life gambling habit with lobbyists and at the craps tables and minimizes the gigantic mountain of racism and ignorance Obama is fighting...
I was watching Howie Kurtz on his little tv show this weekend (Reliable Sources) and they were chatting about the debates. Howie framed a question this way (and I'm paraphrasing because I'm too lazy too look up a transcript):
"The pundits say the debate was a tie, but the instapolls say Obama won. Are these instapolls a waste of time?"
The CONCEPT that the media may have gotten it wrong never even entered his mind. This, in a nutshell, is what's wrong with the beltway media.
OlderButWiser
· 1 year ago
Good morning...am I the only one who thinks this bailout won't work overall? The construction industry is drying up and my son hasn't worked for 4 days...no other work is available, the deliveries of gas in this area didn't materialize, and people are going nuts.
I suppose if you're in the 5% at the top and still have spending capabilities, it's not so bad, but has anyone noticed that the European markets are collapsing, CitiGroup is taking over Wachovia, the country's 4th largest bank, and the sell off in the stock market?
I'm scared, more of the damage that is being done, than of any terrorist. I said during the2004 presidential race that it was the economy, and that this regime would bankrupt the govt. I think I was right. But I wish I wasnt.
Indigo
· 1 year ago
You're not the only one. It will probaby hold until after the inauguration. After that . . . we'll find out when we get there.
Hawk
· 1 year ago
This election won't be won or lost at the debates. Nor will it be determined by the two campaigns' "ground games" -- their get-out-the-vote efforts. Nor, unfortunately, will its outcome even depend on how many Americans wake up on Election Day intending to vote for one candidate or the other.
Instead, my fear is that the Electoral College results will hang on the swing state voting systems' vulnerability to sabotage.
Unspoken, but present in the minds of all who watch: Gwen Ifill, who will ask those "gotcha" questions of Sarah, is not, um, a "real, normal American"....
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
that is very true. Gwen Ifill is one class act though. They'll be hard pressed to spin her into an angry, radical, militant, secretly muslim, black female.
Ginger_FL
· 1 year ago
ObW....I am worried about the economy as well...Lost my job last monday...so we're back to square 1. I'm afraid this whole bailout is being built up to hang around the Dem's necks.... I just think it's all a ruse.... Look at this headline this morning:
NEW YORK -Financial markets are off their lows but still down sharply after the Federal Reserve and other countries' central banks pumped more money into the world's credit markets.
Then there is this on the same link:
Dow falls 300 points ahead of bailout vote 09/29/08 10:00 EDT NEW YORK (AP) - The Dow Jones industrial average fell more than 300 points, while demand for safe-haven buying in government debt remained high ahead of a planned House vote on an unpopular $700 billion plan to rescue troubled financial companies and as investors examined a deal for Wachovia Corp.
OlderButWiser
· 1 year ago
Gosh, I'm so sorry, and everyone I talk with is worried about their jobs right now..problem with us is that my only income is SS of under $1k per month, and if my son makes no money, we'll probably lose the house he's owned for 11 years. This is becoming very common in this area. Even in the more affluent areas near me, the foreclosure rate is high according to those you see in the local paper, and lots of for sale signs in front of $750,000 houses recently bought. These are generally owned by the financial services types who work in Charlotte. And we're nowhere close to being in that league. : )
Ginger_FL
· 1 year ago
I set up a Vonage phone account, dropped my landline phone service and cut back on our Directv programs. We're cutting as much as we can still afford to put food on the table and gas in the car. Fortunately, we bought a Toyota Yaris last December which gets about 44 mpg mixed city/highway which has saved us a ton of money...husband drives 52 miles each day round trip to the base.
bejammin075
· 1 year ago
The 1st debate is the most important. That Obama did as well as he did must have put a lot of fence sitters at ease on national security & economy. The other 2 debates & VP debate will be highly watched as well, and Obama will get to close the deal, while Palin freaks people out with her unreadyness. Hopefully, Palin will have to again attempt to answer basic questions like "What is your national security experience?"
EmGD
· 1 year ago
Frankly, if you're a reporter and walk into the spin room honestly trying to figure out who won by what the flacks say....you ought to be fired the second you hand in your 'story'. You are too stupid to function as a reporter.
Andrea Mitchell is married to Alan Greenspan, who has a very heavy hand in this treasonous mess. He was supposedly arrested in June, 07 and is now under house arrest. If you doubt that, find out where he has been and get back to me. You really wouldn't expect Ms. Mitchell to act like a real reporter would you????
devlzadvocate
· 1 year ago
The difference in the polls vs. the pundits certainly puts a big hole in the theory of the liberal owned media.
All Comments
Man, in my 53 years I thought I'd never see anything worse than the Nixon years...
This is the poll results in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune after the debate:
# of votes % of votes
Sen. McCain 2415 40.2 percent
Sen. Obama 3086 51.4 percent
It was a tie 8.3 percent
http://www.startribune.com/polls/29836839.html?...
Also, in the suburb:
Edina red could turn Democratic blue
Historically, Edina has equaled Republican. There has rarely been a more consistent area of the state that votes for Republicans, but the gradual shift is very evident this year, and it could become an all-Democratic year in the city known for representing the picture-perfect GOP stronghold.
http://www.mnspeak.com/mnspeak/archive/post-635...
the rest of us are desperate for change.
Thank God the media's never learned its lesson and continues to wound and damage the public interest and our future with trifling, off-point nonsense...Is there an Emmy category for this???
FYI--It wasn't 10 minutes after Bush spoke this AM and Today was deep into an exclusive with NYC's kittycat thug...WTF!?!?!?!
Not that I'm concerned or anything. ;-)
Gonzalez
How much can she memorize by Thursday?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrqTSZoegYo
BTW I am assuming that Sarah Palin has the baby with her while she is in 'Debate Camp' in AZ. This baby is what, 5-6 months old? Shouldn't he be with his mama? Hope she has the good sense to have him with her. But when did good sense and Sarah Palin go together?
We also have to defeat the Horse Race narrative MSM needs to be relevant!
Have you heard, "Could Sarah Palin's pathetic lack of basic understanding of core issues be a problem for Joe Biden in the debate" narrative?
"I'll get back to ya on that"
Well, I for one will never vote for Hillary as long as she is still attached to Bill. Probably will not vote for her even if she is the leading Democratic candidate. I will never forgive the Clintons for their treatment of Obama. He is the leader of the Democratic party now and the Clintons still cannot accept that. In fact, they are all but stating publicly that they favor McCain and my feeling is they will probably vote for McCain.
BTW why was McCain invited to Bill's forum last week and not Obama? Am I wrong in thinking Obama was not invited?
Toxic Politics
And it is not that the public has not noticed. By mounting majorities, the public has come to loathe this plan. When it was introduced a small majority seemed willing to give their assent, now, the bill is as unpopular as the Office of the President that gave it birth, and the Congress that is ready to pass it. A bare fifth of the public approves of any plan based on Paulson's. One could find more supporters for abolishing the Federal Reserve, overturning the Civil Rights Act, or making Broccoli the national vegetable. More people believe in witchcraft, than believe in this bill.
A leadership, lockstep and encased in a bubble, is trying to whip and deceive the public. It is possible to fool some of the people some of the time, but this requires that all of the people become fools for all time.
Already legislators locked in honest elections, those few were the outcome is in doubt, have fled for cover. Is there any more clear indication of the public sentiment, than that those who know that the people have a choice, will choose to vote against it?
"the machines have taken over, your job is to provide electicity and a controlled temp for them. Oh, you don't think those machines care about your opinion do you?" Scott Adams
...they can turn a 7% race where they need to!
Probably not true, but buckle your seat belts!
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/29/rollins....
"The pundits say the debate was a tie, but the instapolls say Obama won. Are these instapolls a waste of time?"
The CONCEPT that the media may have gotten it wrong never even entered his mind. This, in a nutshell, is what's wrong with the beltway media.
I suppose if you're in the 5% at the top and still have spending capabilities, it's not so bad, but has anyone noticed that the European markets are collapsing, CitiGroup is taking over Wachovia, the country's 4th largest bank, and the sell off in the stock market?
I'm scared, more of the damage that is being done, than of any terrorist. I said during the2004 presidential race that it was the economy, and that this regime would bankrupt the govt. I think I was right. But I wish I wasnt.
Instead, my fear is that the Electoral College results will hang on the swing state voting systems' vulnerability to sabotage.
It's already happening.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marty-kaplan/why-...
C!
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/220563.php
Gwen Ifill is one class act though. They'll be hard pressed to spin her into an angry, radical, militant, secretly muslim, black female.
I'm afraid this whole bailout is being built up to hang around the Dem's necks....
I just think it's all a ruse....
Look at this headline this morning:
Stocks remain down after central banks' injections
09/29/08 10:18 EDT
http://money.aol.com/marketnews/
NEW YORK -Financial markets are off their lows but still down sharply after the Federal Reserve and other countries' central banks pumped more money into the world's credit markets.
Then there is this on the same link:
Dow falls 300 points ahead of bailout vote
09/29/08 10:00 EDT
NEW YORK (AP) - The Dow Jones industrial average fell more than 300 points, while demand for safe-haven buying in government debt remained high ahead of a planned House vote on an unpopular $700 billion plan to rescue troubled financial companies and as investors examined a deal for Wachovia Corp.
Fortunately, we bought a Toyota Yaris last December which gets about 44 mpg mixed city/highway which has saved us a ton of money...husband drives 52 miles each day round trip to the base.
http://thesebastards.blogspot.com/
San Diego is where the rest of the OH gang went.