jesus, FINALLY, it only took 10 reloads for the damn comment window to show up, and only took about a minute of ad loading and stalling for THAT to happen.
Former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger says the United States should begin direct negotiations with Iran over its nuclear enrichment program. Kissinger, speaking Monday at George Washington University along with four other former U.S. State Department secretaries, said the next president should initiate high-level discussions with Iran "without conditions," ABC News reported.
"Senator McCain is right. I would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level. My views on this issue are entirely compatible with the views of my friend Senator John McCain. We do not agree on everything, but we do agree that any negotiations with Iran must be geared to reality."
No, it's an exercise in "old white men solidarity"
artisticfreedom
· 1 year ago
The pundits seem to want to portray it a tie, but CNN just got their poll results showing Obama beating McCain on all of the topics. They can spin it any way they want, but Obama clearly won.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Yep...and they're gonna eat their spin.
ImpureScience
· 1 year ago
I was feeling a bit uncomfortable for Obama so I'm overjoyed to see the results in all these unscientific snap polls. He's smart, articulate, and well-nigh unflappable, but I did think he missed some opportunities to kick McCain in the nuts. At times I had the same feeling I used to have watching the Three Stooges, when I'd see Moe hitting Curly and I'd say "Hey, Curly, hit him back!"
I'm happy that the "you don't get it" lines followed by proof that Obama really does get it were not lost on those watching.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Exactly...McCain looked like an old grampa trying to give advice to a young, dynamic, intelligent Obama !!!
artisticfreedom
· 1 year ago
The focus group on CNN gave it to Obama 61% to 39%, At one point, the independents were giving Obama higher marks than the democrats! That's good news.
grandma
· 1 year ago
"Mc Cain was visibly contemptuous of Obama.......wouldn't look him in the eye......Obama congenial, open..."
Eugene Robinson on Olberman now.
RIPWAMU
· 1 year ago
I thought this was a very good comment from Obama. The war didn't start with the surge and he hammered that home.
I'm actually rewatching it again on CNN and I would score Obama even higher the 2nd time. He used facts and figures where McCain used stories and bullying. I definitely think they should take some of these points about Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan on the road. Didn't hear McCain taking about the poppy trade in Afghanistan which is funding the terrorists. All he talked about was our first historical journey in Afghanistan. Has McCain been keeping up with what is going on in Pakistan? They are shooting at us with one arm and taking cash with another. It doesnt matter he has been to Wazeristan (sp). That doesn't mean crap that he has been there and Obama hasn't. Not like he did anything. The terrain there isn't much different than Arizona.
RIPWAMU
· 1 year ago
Also, just went back over the portion where McCain says that Obama stated he wants to attack Pakistan. What? He said that if Bin Laden or his cronies were in sight and Pakistan couldn't or wouldn't do anything that we should do it - meaning BIN LADEN.
sukabi1
· 1 year ago
the thing about McCain --- and all the repubs for that matter -- is that their twisted "talking points" work with their usual audiences (handpicked, hardcore -- would never vote off party -- republicans) so when faced with an audience that hasn't been drinking from their special fountain the twisted talking points don't work so well....
plus after 8+ years (it's going on 16 years now) of the same catch phrases and sound bites it gets a bit OLD.... people are FINALLY looking for SUBSTANCE instead of filler.
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http://www.drudgereport.com/
CBS.......
September 26, 2008, 11:02 PM
Early Poll Results Suggest More Uncommitted Voters Saw Obama As Debate Winner
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/26/politic...
According to CBS News / Knowledge Networks' poll of undecided voters:
40% of uncommitted voters who watched the debate tonight thought Barack Obama was the winner. 22% thought John McCain won. 38% saw it as a draw.
68% of these voters think Obama would make the right decision
about the economy. 41% think McCain would.
49% of these voters think Obama would make the right decisions about Iraq. 55% think McCain would.
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/20...
CNN poll gives it to Obama.
(just heard it on TV; can't find it on their Web site).
And CBS poll of undecideds gives it to Obama.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/26/politic...
http://www.cnn.com/
It's on the right hand side halfway down.
Who won the presidential debate? * 197118 responses
John McCain
36%
Barack Obama
50%
Tie
6.4%
Not sure
8.1%
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/26/19044/7...
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...
26 Sep 2008 11:23 pm
From the Weekly Standard:
"Senator McCain is right. I would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level. My views on this issue are entirely compatible with the views of my friend Senator John McCain. We do not agree on everything, but we do agree that any negotiations with Iran must be geared to reality."
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/20...
So it's about the 'Presidential level'?
I'm happy that the "you don't get it" lines followed by proof that Obama really does get it were not lost on those watching.
Eugene Robinson on Olberman now.
I'm actually rewatching it again on CNN and I would score Obama even higher the 2nd time. He used facts and figures where McCain used stories and bullying. I definitely think they should take some of these points about Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan on the road. Didn't hear McCain taking about the poppy trade in Afghanistan which is funding the terrorists. All he talked about was our first historical journey in Afghanistan. Has McCain been keeping up with what is going on in Pakistan? They are shooting at us with one arm and taking cash with another. It doesnt matter he has been to Wazeristan (sp). That doesn't mean crap that he has been there and Obama hasn't. Not like he did anything. The terrain there isn't much different than Arizona.
plus after 8+ years (it's going on 16 years now) of the same catch phrases and sound bites it gets a bit OLD.... people are FINALLY looking for SUBSTANCE instead of filler.