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He wasn't scheduled to be within Robinson's presence. Since ER is a pariah who could be silenced by the Inauguration Committee once they got a gander at his hard-hitting prayer.
But, he'll be there tomorrow for Fatso, you can bet the farm on that.
Maybe they should have left out those disturbing shots of tethered bald eagles flapping and trying to fly and included Robinson. Just a thought.
warren is scheduled for 10 am.
Obama takes the oath of office at noon. I doubt they will be out for two hours ahead of time.
I cannot stand teh fundies so hope warren is shut out too. He may be ignored by the msm as it stands.
Right........they won't because it's bullshit. They can play the blame HBO, HBO blame Inaugural Comm. until they are blue in the face. It doesn't change the fact that it's bullshit.
Moreover, Obama was also absent during the pledge of allegiance. The pledge is obviously important to many Americans. But I don't think it would be fair to read anything into his absence from that moment either.
Obama, you can make this semi-right. If replacing Warren with Robinson cannot be done, then Robinson and his beautiful prayer must be included in tomorrow's inauguration.
it smacks of "check's in the mail" or "i promise not to c*m in your mouth".
I don't see why the Obama people would do this on the purpose. There is simply no benefit and Obama and Robinson have a personal friendship. This seems a case of poor planning and the prayer was fairly long, maybe that was an issue.
THAT's why ER was silenced.
However, the religious right doesn't see it as "just a two minute prayer -- no big deal" (as the Obama apologists say about Warren). The religious right is in full battle gear over Robinson's inclusion -- claiming that Obama is forcing Christians to abandon their religious principles if they watch the event on TV.
The Flamboyant Homosexual Inaugural
Barack Obama's inauguration will have the dubious distinction of being the most perverted in our nation's history. Obama is not being subtle about either. One of America's most radical and destructive homosexual activists, "Bishop" Vickie Eugene Robinson of New Hampshire, in official inaugural activities will be offering the invocation at the Lincoln Memorial.
Robinson will be appearing with the Gay Men's Chorus of Washington D. C. which forces all Christians around the world to compromise their character if they want to watch the inauguration.
So, it never got on TV. Can't have the Christians abandoning their religious principles by watching an Episcopal bishop give an invocation.
This way, Obama can claim he included Robinson, but he doesn't risk offending the right-wing Christians. At least now we know who he's more afraid of and willing to cave in to.
So sad.
Whereas tomorrow Obama will be present for his new BFF's invocation.
THAT'S the insult.
One would think MLK would be rolling in his grave, but apparently the organizers of the event have no shame.
I heard that there was a microphone malfunction and only the front rows of the audience heard it. Not so?
Not good enough, Josh. What do you intend to do about it?
I agree this is maddening, but at this point I hear reactions to rumors, acceptance of HBO line of crap (when did an organization with the Weinsteins as part of its public face become so ubercredible?), and "oh what a bastard Obama is" coloring a lot of the reaction to this thing that is maddening.
If Robinson got thrown under the bus, DuBois is the driver.
http://www.tips-q.com/content/we-are-minus-one
Meanwhile, if it really was just a question of timing and HBO not wanting to carry ten minutes of dead air, why didn't they edit the prayer in for the re-broadcasts? And why doesn't Mr. Earnest publicly insist to HBO that they include it on any future DVDs or rebroadcasts??
Again, I repeat: Bullshit. Robinson was thrown in at the last minute to make us all quiet down and be good. They just didn't even care enough to do it right.
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/polltracker/2009/01...
At this point, my problem with Obama's team is that they keep making these kinds of mistakes.
Why did they not check when HBO would be filming? this is rookie level screw ups.
I work in film. I can't imagine anyone not knowing this information and coordinating it. Bizare type of comunication team he has.
Hey but lots of gays believed all his other sorry excuses, so of course they knew they could get away with this.
The more things change, the more they stay the same. At least the LGBT community has the opportunity to learn early what kind of new president we have...
I am really pissed. Yes, now we know and we need to act. No more sleeping while another Proposition 8 is voted in.
NOW
pass it on - do some things...
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I would bet it was a mutual decision.
I will be watching Obama like a hawk. No more bus tire tracks on my back from getting run over by the incoming admin, whoever it is.
McClurkin, Warren, too much precedent. Liars.
"We wanted to pass the Employment Non-Discrimination Act but..."
"We wanted to pass a hate crimes bill that included LGBT but..."
"We wanted to end Don't Ask / Don't Tell but..."
We are watching VERY closely. Justice delayed is unacceptable.
"We've got to give them hope." - Harvey Milk
At exactly what point do we say -- that's enough? The problem with this is that the longer you let it go on, the harder it becomes to say "This is the last straw" because you've let so much else go by. Anything can be explained away as a "silly issue" not worth getting upset over.
For the record, he crossed the line with me already. I've taken my name off all Dem mailing lists and donation lists. And, unless I see some serious forward movement, he'd better hope the right wing opens their wallets to Dems in 2010, or he;ll be spending his last two years as president with a GOP congress.
"You gotta give them hope." - Harvey Milk (my hero)
http://www.hillaryis44.com/
Add to that the slap in the face they gave Howard Dean, and no Democratic Party organization is going to get one thin dime from me. I can donate directly, via ActBlue, or any of several other groups.
The Democratic Party needs to start looking at who put them into office -- and they have to stop taking us for granted. They can't assume they're our only choice anymore.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-camp/bushs-or...
"Dear America States -
I beenz Precedent of The United over 8 to 10 yearz gone bye. I haz fun to be Precedent of y'all, even immegrantz, but not gayz. I am done now with itz. Here is my list of favorites, all favoritez, for you:
- I gotz wear pilot costoom suit on big boat. BIG BOAT!
- My house haz bowling amy for bowling ballz. Me and Karl play. Karl iz fat.
- Mister Chainy gave me cake for me only me because I go get him ...."
I have cancelled my subscription.
The actions of P.I.C. and the Obama team offer one message: It's still ok to dump on the gay community.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0109/Ina...
I cannot accept such a wimpy statement as "We had always intended and planned for Rt. Rev. Robinson’s invocation to be included in the televised portion of yesterday’s program."
At this point, only a carefully worded abject apology, followed by a firm rejection of all the hate and vile language in "Rev." Martin's excessive diatribes would begin to address this mess.
I wonder how many more unwise blunders President-Elect Barack Obama will make now?
Paul Matthews
And then this. Very, very disappointing.
I, however, as a gay layman that wore out plenty of shoe leather and spent plenty of days off making calls for Obama, expect better than mealy-mouthed non-apologies and equivocations.
I'll say it again: Obama is a smart guy in the real world; he is a dumb guy when it comes to religion. And he chooses stupid, retrograde people for his advisors on matters pertaining to religion.
Please Obama - let's not start out with Bush-style lies. Let's keep things above board and honest. AND QUIT FUCKING DISRESPECTING THE GAY COMMUNITY!
Don't you suppose the REAL reason that Bishop Robinson was scheduled 5 minutes BEFORE HBO went live was because he was an ADD-ON from last week to try to appease teh gays?
You didn't actually believe the story the Obama team gave last week that they had planned all along to have Bishop Robinson on Sunday and just forgot to mention it did you?
Video: Bishop Robinson's Invocation that You Didn't See on HBO
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/1/19/155652/...
I bet everyone needs a laugh as much as I do.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0109/Ina...
From the Kansas City Star: http://blogs.kansascity.com/tvbarn/2009/01/why-...
All that prayin' and religiosity at a govt event just turns this atheist off, anyway. Let's get religion OUT of govt. Pray in one hand and protest in the other. See what kind of results you get for both. My bet is on protesting...it's always produced better results as far as I've experienced.
You ought to hear the gasp when people "affirm" rather than swear to "god" in court. All of a sudden, you're suspect as a witness. That's how pervasive supersitition still is.
I think Obama truly buys this religion stuff and as he has said many times, the religion stuff is what informs his opinion about gay men and women. Consequently, when Obama pulls stuff like this, it should be taken seriously.
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/20...
think someone got their a$$ chewed...ya think?
Carry on the drama then.
:)
Thanks, John Aravosis!
(even if it happens, it still stinks)
but what about the DC gay men's chior who never got introduced?
what, are they going to do the whole show again?
nah, this still smacks of an full-on "oh yeah, the fags are here , too"
ass clowns
if it was just a thoughtless oversight, it's become bigger than life now...good.
thanks HBO.
here's a good round-up from thinkprogress:
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/19/robinson-in...
, because I can't believe that HBO would intentionally insult the gay community.
"Don't Ask Don't Tell" will not be reversed by Obama's signature - which he COULD do. Instead, he is choosing to have Congress do it, in order to show that there is national consensus that the policy is worthless. This way, he can't be accused of forcing his personal will upon the country. It is a delay, and I hate that - but it is a good strategic move. Not only will Congressional action show national consensus, it makes it harder for the next Republican president to overturn.
WAKE UP PEOPLE- Bihop Robinson's speech was never meant to be seen or heard on a national or grand level. Even the speakers at the mall were turned off for the first 3 out of 4 minutes of his speech!
Just beacuse Pres Obama said the word "gay" in a few speeches doesn't automatically mean he will champion gay rights. After all Clinton gave us DOMA and Don't Ask Don't Tell! And Pres Obama in 1996 was unequivocally in support of legalizing same-sex marriage and in 2008, Yes on 8 sent robocalls to MILLIONS of Californians of Obama's voice saying marriage should only be between a man and a woman.
We have EVERY right to be vigilant and cautious. SILENCE=DEATH!
Just another lying politician. Period.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?v...
As a lesbian, I understand that we want and need to have changes. But good grief, cut the Pres. a little slack! His message is inclusive, even if he picked Warren (the pompous ass) to give the opening prayer. The Rev. Joseph Lowery who gave the benediction is a very progressive United Methodist Clergy, which seems to have gone unnoticed. While I disagree tremendously with Warren, I am forced to agree that there must be room for him too. It's a big country, a big world, with many diverse opinions, and even those whom I consider wrong still have the right to be heard and even represented in some fashion. We do need to have our rights guaranteed, and will have to keep working on that, but other opinions like Warren's are only that. (I know they have power with some people, but the tide is turning.)
Let's give Obama our support, and keep up the hard and good work of being visible and engaged in the changes we want to see in the world.
Peace!