I was outside holding a sign in West Asheville from about 11AM - 6PM. Lots of positive reaction, very little negative.
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Amen AQ2. NC is slow at counting and we had over 400,000 absentee voters. I suspect the margin is at least 12%.
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
Good god, they called it when the polls closed.
gerbilsbite
· 1 year ago
You need to review that last paragraph: Hillary said NC would be a game-changer, and Obama won convincingly. Indiana is still TCTC. The race remains, as it has been for weeks now, over.
maggiePA08
· 1 year ago
Thank you North Carolina!
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Your welcome Maggie :)
donotmakemecomedownthere
· 1 year ago
Hillary said that NC was a "game changer." Now there's no need for overtime. Time to hang up the shoulder pads.
LawMichigander
· 1 year ago
Oh lol Hillary is going to the Convention unless the Supers end it. Face it she would like to manipulate errrr buy err convince them to vote for her and of course count the Michigan and Florida delegates despite their elections being run like the ones in Zimbabwe.
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
· 1 year ago
I think there is still hope for Obama in Indiana because they haven't counted Gary, Bloomington or Evansville, which are likely to be Obama's strongest areas.
firebrand
· 1 year ago
YES WE CAN!!!!!!
davespicer
· 1 year ago
One small example of Obama-campaign thoroughness: A few different people took turns holding a "Hillary" sign across the street from me. It was a medium-size, script printing of her name, on one side only. The back was blank.
My sign from the campaign office was a good-sized white coroplast rectangle with just the logo stenciled on it with spray paint. I could hold it up higher, because the long sides of the sign were vertical, and it was painted on both sides. Twice the exposure, and the logo was recognizable much farther away than the Hillary sign was. Ding! Winner!
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
· 1 year ago
What are the chances that Republican-controlled Diebold voting machines in Indiana are adding phoney votes to the Clinton tally? Limbaugh told his followers in Indiana to vote for Clinton.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
The northern states don't matter. It's important that Obama wins the southern states.
Rab
· 1 year ago
Stupid is as stupid does.......Hillary Clinton describing her campaign under the influence of truth serum (large dose).
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
· 1 year ago
Oh lookie, Donna Brazile is on CNN... She gets her hair cut at the same place I go. Too bad she clings to Catholicism even as it rejects her.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Donna Brazile isn't a Catholic.
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
· 1 year ago
Donna Brazile IS Catholic. Yes she is. I heard her say so today. And I have heard her say so often before. Plus her Wikipedia citation says she is Roman Catholic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donna_Brazile
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Forget it, Shirley; if she believes in abortion and is a lesbian? She's not Catholic. It's not my definition; it's the Pope's. She can be anything she wants to be. But; she's not a Catholic.
woodroad34
· 1 year ago
This is good news! As well as the news that Special Counsel Scott Bloch's office has been raided by the FBI for "suspected of hiring an outside company to scrub his computer amid a federal investigation of alleged misconduct in his office": http://www.365gay.com/Newscon08/05/050608bloch.htm More Bush Administration criminality and scandal.
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Sounds like they are about to call Indiana. I just hope the percentages go down there for hillary. Early NC numbers look good for Obama. Only Greensboro area has reported any numbers. Wake, Durham and Orange (Chapel Hill) counties will come in huge for Obama.
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
I feel so proud to be from NC! If Obama wins by double digits here, it will wipe out Clinton's victory in PA...
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Orange county NC already has 12,000 for Obama and 3,000 for hillary and that's just with 2% reporting. Huge turnout there and it is a small county.
Indiana has pretty much held a 12 to 14 point lead for Clinton. Will it stay that way?
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
I think it will narrow AQ2. Areas that should be for Obama haven't come in yet. hillary is winning a lot of rural counties where lower turnouts were but so far it has been enough to keep her ahead.
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
· 1 year ago
I think Asheville will go for Obama, don't you?
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Asheville definitely. What county is it in? I rarely get out that way.
davespicer
· 1 year ago
Asheville is in Buncombe County. The city itself is quite progressive, the county less so, surrounding counties even less so.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Indiana: Things To Know
As you watch results come in, important to know this:
Indiana has 72 delegates...47 will be decided by results in congressional districts. There are 9 congressional districts.
In congressional districts 1, 2, 7, 8 and 9 there are 6 delegates each. These delegates will be split 3-3 -- you need to win 58 percent or higher in order to get a 4-2 split. So that means all Obama has to do is hold Hillary to 58 percent or lower in each district and they split. Which means he stays ahead.
With 5% in NC. Obama already has a bigger vote lead than hillary has in IN with 37% reporting. Dare I say it may be time to break out the champagne?
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
· 1 year ago
Asheville is Buncombe County. I think most of their county commission is progressive Democrats. Fun side-note: The term "full of Bunk" originated with a blow-hard congressman from Buncombe County NC; they said he was "full of Buncombe" at first and this evolved to "full of bunk."
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Asheville is a liberal hotbed much like Chapel Hill. He is killing hillary there as well as Durham naturally. I'm kind of surprised by the Cumberland county numbers so far. He is doing really well there and is ahead by 7,000 with only 1% counted. This is HUGE!
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
Queen Hillaria enraged: "Do my minions among the wretched inky scribes dare to betray me with such readiness? And worse: Can the dusky upstarts in that outlying province of my vast empire so easily turn treacherous, forgetting the benevolent rule I and my faithless consort once exercised over their piteous lives? Do they dare to forget they made my faithless consort an honorary member of their benighted tribe? I utter reverently the names of all the occult foremothers at my shrine to Hecate: o you foremothers, curse the traitorous ones who provoke my omnipotent wrath!"
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
Polly_tics
I know you are out there, come on in and join the party. :)
vwcat
· 1 year ago
yes! yes! yes!!!!!!!!! Hillary will continue in the race calling NC as not counting and saying she has the momentum. But, it's undeniable that Obama is walking away with hopefully the official recognition of the months long unofficial nomination. And let's thank all those younger voters and those 91% African Americans in NC that put him in the win column and made it possible.
Bobby_Sambang
· 1 year ago
1. Why can't she close the deal? 2. Why can't she do better with African Americans? 3. Why doesn't she disassociate from her husband?
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Indiana has dropped to 10 points. KEEP FALLING!
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
This is so great! I expect a concession speech from Clinton tomorrow.
Her money is going to dry up.
MikeinSanJo
· 1 year ago
Don't worry folks, at least Clinton is carrying the stupid white folk demographic in Indiana! She leads in whites with no college by 65%-31%.
THAT explains a LOT!!
Proudly, THIS white folk didn't give her my vote.
gonzalez
· 1 year ago
They just want the 18C gas tax. What idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
I guess at this point I have to wonder about this. Obama is carrying about 90% of the black vote, while Clinton is only carrying, what, about 60% of the woman vote. Race vs gender. So why can't Clinton the get same kind of support as Obama?
If you look at it this way, why can't she garner enough votes?
gonzalez
· 1 year ago
It is time for the Clintons to get our gracefully. But of course, they will not do that. They want to destroy the party.
It is time for the super delegates to get some testicular fortitude and call it for Obama. What weaklings this party has become.
grandma
· 1 year ago
yep...her money must be drying up:
Another Clinton loan?
I asked Clinton campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe just now whether Clinton had given or loaned her campaign more money in the run-up to North Carolina and Indiana.
"Might be. Might not be," McAuliffe said, adding that the campaign would release more fundraising details tomorrow.
In the past, Clinton aides have denied a second Clinton loan, but McAuliffe said tonight his policy is not to talk about fundraising details.
That 63% to 35% vote margin for Obama in NC is looking very impressive. I wonder if that can hold up to then end? Bravo North Carolina!
shell
· 1 year ago
Thanks, Shirley. NUMBERS! LOL
shell
· 1 year ago
I have a question: N.C. called the election for Obama the second polls closed. Yet, they don't show how much he won by. They just say it is "a lot." I WANT NUMBERS!
But Indiana doesn't say who won, although they keep showing the numbers. Is it because there are a few precincts who have been held open longer?
NC [11% PRECINCTS] CLINTON 109,361 34% *OBAMA 203,851 64%
IN [47% PRECINCTS] *CLINTON 304,250 55% OBAMA 245,728 45%
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
· 1 year ago
Busboy, most Catholics are for abortion and guess what, most priests are gay, so does that mean the Catholic church doesn't exist? BTW, most folks in the Vatican are gay, too, in case you hadn't figured that out yet.
shell
· 1 year ago
"BTW, most folks in the Vatican are gay, too, in case you hadn't figured that out yet." ************
hahahahaha That pope! With all his fancy clothes and hats and shoes. If he ISN'T gay, I will eat my cat!
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
· 1 year ago
Firebrand, when Barack Obama is elected president of the United States, there will be dancing in the streets - quite literally - WORLDWIDE. WORLD-WIDE celebrations will ensue. It will be a historic celebration on a global scale.
Ginger_FL
· 1 year ago
MSNBC showing: NC - Obama 65% - Clinton 34% with 14% reporting IN - Obama 45% - Clinton 55% with 50% reporting
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
This is historic! NC will go down in history as the state which put a person of color in the WH!
I am proud of my country for the first time in many years.
Ginger_FL
· 1 year ago
Olberman is on MSNBC now.....
repub voting in IN reported at about 11% Saying clinton getting 56% to 44% of that vote.
Man I can't stand Tweety...UGH..how can olberman stand being on there with him...eewww
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
Whoo hoo MSNBC just gave new numbers, there is only an 8% difference!! Let's hope it stays below 10%
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
Indiana down to 8 points and falling! C'mon Hoosiers!
firebrand
· 1 year ago
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
It will be a grand day indeed.!!!!!! . :-)
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
Oh for god's sake, somebody just shoot Pat Buchanan. He is still saying the white vote will dry up in the General Election. I am white and I will walk a mile to see Obama elected.
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
Indiana
Obama 46% Clinton 54%
52% reporting.
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
NIGEL! :) It's looking like it might be champagne time!
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
lunaStick,
meep, meep...drink, drink! Cheers, Obama!!! ;-)
firebrand
· 1 year ago
Nigel
After Obama wins...We'll free Wales :-)
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
LOL Firebrand,
just the opposite make England, Welsh again, like it used to be. Takes that, you Angles, Saxons, and Juts. ;-)
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
If I were Rachel Maddow, I'd be punching Buchanan in the mouth right about now.
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
Yeah, all the numbers from the Obama-favored districts in IN haven't been reported yet.
Hell, this is exciting!!
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
I hate how networks call races. They take all the fun out of it, except when they are wrong, :)
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
· 1 year ago
Who is the Jewish vote going for? In my job, a majority of the people I meet are Jewish and most are Obama supporters, but I am not sure if that is representative nationwide. Anyone know?
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
O&W, it's looking like your county is going for hillary. I fear mine might too because it has gotten hard to judge here in Granville. Well over 100,000 vote lead overall though. YEAH!
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
The electoral map analysis. Why are rural voters for Clinton and more conservative in general? Media stereotyping? The media has dumb downed the voters on purpose. And it's not just FOX News. It's all of them. Obama needs a massive ground strategy to reach people directly and bypass corporate media to win the general election. The media help Bush get us stuck in Iraq, and they refuse to help us out. The revolution won't be televised!!!!!!!!! ;-)
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
Shirley
You know I am having a hard time trying to keep up with white women, African American, under educated, over educated, young, old, now you ask about Jewish. :)
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
Nigel
You are correct. America has been so dumbed down it hurts but look the bright side is that educated and young voters are saying no, no more.
Bobby_Sambang
· 1 year ago
Donna Brazile is a Catholic. A poster on an internet chatboard does not get to decide who is a Catholic.
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
· 1 year ago
Aquarius2, I know. I hesitated to ask about Jewish voters for that reason! Ha! At least I didn't ask about Moslem voters or Hispanic voters or Asian voters...
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
Shirley
LOL
Ginger_FL
· 1 year ago
It's all about language.... ah....now I get it ;P
Ginger_FL
· 1 year ago
Someone SLAP FORD NOW !!!!
NO joint ticket !!!!!!!
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
Ginger,
Harold Ford, Jr is a LOSER! (making an "L" on my forehead now) ;-)
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
· 1 year ago
If we free Wales or make England Welsh, will "Torchwood" have to go off the air? I won't vote for anyone who would force "Torchwood" off the air. I need my weekly John Barrowman fix.
Nigel Elliott
· 1 year ago
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
Torchwood's a keeper. The creator is Welsh! ;-)
Ginger_FL
· 1 year ago
I'm a WHITE woman and my husband is a WHITE man ....we're voting for Obama...
SCREW Hillbot !!!
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
Lovely. My son switched to the Cleveland-Boston game.
So, I'll get confirmation of Obama's Big Win and Clinton's Demise right here, I suppose. : )
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
I'm switching to the Cleveland Boston game during comercials O&W but my focus is mainly on the numbers. Obama is making a comeback in IN. It's down to 6 points. Not saying he is going to win but he is kicking so much ass here it won't really matter. Obama is about to speak.
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
Okay NOW Ford is addressing the race issue without actually saying it. "Can Obama unite those white working class voters?" Get ready kids, because the race ticket is going to be played, not only within the Dems, but also in the fall.
Ginger_FL
· 1 year ago
Ford is Pissing me off......Someone kick this asshole !!!
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
· 1 year ago
Did you know that virtually ALL voting in Oregon is done by MAIL?
And that in Minnesota you can register to vote when you SHOW UP to vote? (and then VOTE right away)
Ginger_FL
· 1 year ago
O&W, you need to get a TeeVee in another room. Hubby is watching the Boston game as well...I'm hiding in the bedroom watching Olberman and tweety while I chat with you guys ;D
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
Only a 6 point difference!
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
Ah, Welsh! Reminds me of Catherine Zeta-Jones, a quite beautiful woman. Michael Douglas is a favorite of mine, quite handsome.
I wouldn't call Obama particularly handsome, but he's attractive, has an aura about him.
LunaStick
· 1 year ago
O&W, I'm gonna start referring to you as O>W. It is such a lovely and accurate mathematical equation :)
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
· 1 year ago
Torchwood is filmed in Cardiff, Wales. And John Barrowman and his husband live there.
Hillary Mellon Scaife's lead in indiana is down to just 6% and I understand the Gary area still hasn't been counted... which is where 8% of the population of Indiana lives. If Hilary wins indiana, it won't be by any big amount, I don't think.
Ginger_FL
· 1 year ago
new topics up
star5555
· 1 year ago
There are things I do not like about both Obama and Clinton equally. The bloggers that are blaming Hillary for what Bill did are wrong. She is NOT responsible for what he did folks. The thing about Hillary is that millions of tax payers dollars were spent on investigating the Clinton's. They found nothing wrong. I think we should spend Millions investigating Obama and McCain to be fair. There is no doubt that Hillary is more experienced and anyone that thinks she is not is looking very far. I like Obama also, but his lack of experience is very scary. I wish them both good luck. I will vote for whichever on wins.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Looks like it's over; expect Clinton endorsement of Obama in the AM....
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Guess I'm way behind the curve, Shirley; Thanks for bringing me up to date...
All Comments
My sign from the campaign office was a good-sized white coroplast rectangle with just the logo stenciled on it with spray paint. I could hold it up higher, because the long sides of the sign were vertical, and it was painted on both sides. Twice the exposure, and the logo was recognizable much farther away than the Hillary sign was. Ding! Winner!
More Bush Administration criminality and scandal.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/resu...
As you watch results come in, important to know this:
Indiana has 72 delegates...47 will be decided by results in congressional districts. There are 9 congressional districts.
In congressional districts 1, 2, 7, 8 and 9 there are 6 delegates each. These delegates will be split 3-3 -- you need to win 58 percent or higher in order to get a 4-2 split. So that means all Obama has to do is hold Hillary to 58 percent or lower in each district and they split. Which means he stays ahead.
more...
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...
Dare I say it may be time to break out the champagne?
Fun side-note: The term "full of Bunk" originated with a blow-hard congressman from Buncombe County NC; they said he was "full of Buncombe" at first and this evolved to "full of bunk."
I know you are out there, come on in and join the party. :)
But, it's undeniable that Obama is walking away with hopefully the official recognition of the months long unofficial nomination.
And let's thank all those younger voters and those 91% African Americans in NC that put him in the win column and made it possible.
2. Why can't she do better with African Americans?
3. Why doesn't she disassociate from her husband?
Her money is going to dry up.
THAT explains a LOT!!
Proudly, THIS white folk didn't give her my vote.
If you look at it this way, why can't she garner enough votes?
It is time for the super delegates to get some testicular fortitude and call it for Obama. What weaklings this party has become.
Another Clinton loan?
I asked Clinton campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe just now whether Clinton had given or loaned her campaign more money in the run-up to North Carolina and Indiana.
"Might be. Might not be," McAuliffe said, adding that the campaign would release more fundraising details tomorrow.
In the past, Clinton aides have denied a second Clinton loan, but McAuliffe said tonight his policy is not to talk about fundraising details.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Ano...
But Indiana doesn't say who won, although they keep showing the numbers. Is it because there are a few precincts who have been held open longer?
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...
NC [11% PRECINCTS]
CLINTON 109,361 34%
*OBAMA 203,851 64%
IN [47% PRECINCTS]
*CLINTON 304,250 55%
OBAMA 245,728 45%
************
hahahahaha That pope! With all his fancy clothes and hats and shoes. If he ISN'T gay, I will eat my cat!
NC - Obama 65% - Clinton 34% with 14% reporting
IN - Obama 45% - Clinton 55% with 50% reporting
I am proud of my country for the first time in many years.
repub voting in IN reported at about 11%
Saying clinton getting 56% to 44% of that vote.
Man I can't stand Tweety...UGH..how can olberman stand being on there with him...eewww
It will be a grand day indeed.!!!!!! . :-)
Obama 46%
Clinton 54%
52% reporting.
It's looking like it might be champagne time!
meep, meep...drink, drink! Cheers, Obama!!! ;-)
After Obama wins...We'll free Wales :-)
just the opposite make England, Welsh again, like it used to be. Takes that, you Angles, Saxons, and Juts. ;-)
Hell, this is exciting!!
Well over 100,000 vote lead overall though. YEAH!
You know I am having a hard time trying to keep up with white women, African American, under educated, over educated, young, old, now you ask about Jewish. :)
You are correct. America has been so dumbed down it hurts but look the bright side is that educated and young voters are saying no, no more.
LOL
ah....now I get it ;P
NO joint ticket !!!!!!!
Harold Ford, Jr is a LOSER!
(making an "L" on my forehead now) ;-)
Torchwood's a keeper. The creator is Welsh! ;-)
SCREW Hillbot !!!
So, I'll get confirmation of Obama's Big Win and Clinton's Demise right here, I suppose. : )
Obama is about to speak.
And that in Minnesota you can register to vote when you SHOW UP to vote? (and then VOTE right away)
I wouldn't call Obama particularly handsome, but he's attractive, has an aura about him.
Hillary Mellon Scaife's lead in indiana is down to just 6% and I understand the Gary area still hasn't been counted... which is where 8% of the population of Indiana lives. If Hilary wins indiana, it won't be by any big amount, I don't think.