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AMERICAblog: Oh my God, airlines are now charging extra to reserve a seat

  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    It's cheaper to fly in Europe than America now, even with the high euro. US carriers need more competition.

    As the end of Bush's term approaches, corporations are milking all they can get from consumers before Obama takes office.
  • Jeremy_in_Denver · 1 year ago
    Yep. 7 months left to **** us. Then the jerks will close up shop, turning recession into full blown depression, and blame the incoming administration if that administration is Obama's...
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    I think Southwest Air is not joining the gouging line-up because someone at that brilliantly managed company had the foresight to buy oil futures through 2012 for $50.00 per barrell.
  • DavidinPS · 1 year ago
    I'm probably in the minority here, but I think this trend is actually a good idea. You start from a base price to move your body from point a to point b. Then if you want more, you pay more. Why should I, who only have one carry on, have to pay the same as someone who has two enormous checked bags? Why should I, who really likes a window seat, get one just because I asked first? Call me crazy, but a "services rendered, services paid for" system seems logical to me. And as for Southwest, I wouldn't fly them if they let me check a steamer trunk. Cattle car in the sky.
  • Jeremy_in_Denver · 1 year ago
    Be careful with this. Up to now, it has been assumed that you wouldn't pay more if you brought no more than 100lbs worth of luggage -- the airline budgets around 300lbs or so per passenger. Now, instead of doing the right thing and simply increasing fares again (and losing passengers...), they have come up with an asinine fee that amounts to a $40 fare increase for a passenger travelling with 100lbs of luggage. Of course, it doesn't affect you, you fly very light. But don't count yourself so lucky yet. Now, it's a base amount of passenger weight, +40lbs for an additional 100lbs of cargo. Soon it may become a purely weight based affair. And if they get away with nickling and diming away for extra service charges, expect more of the same. Checking a laptop? Electronic Security Processing Fee. Need to carry liquids on the aircraft? Liquid Security Processing Fee. Any stupid reason they can shake you down for extra money, they'll do it.

    When they came for the Jews, I didn't say anything because I wasn't a Jew and all...
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Huffington Post is reporting Tim Russert os dead at 58 of a heart attack.
  • RobertCMH · 1 year ago
    So the big airlines are going to copy Spirit Airlines for charging for window or aisle seat -- I've never heard of that airline...but I guess if some random little airline does something that provides an excuse to get even more $$$, it's worthy of copying. What if all of the middle seats are taken when you make your reservation? What about planes that only have 2 seats on each side (an aisle and a window)? Guess we'll be paying no matter what.

    We have spent the last 50 years building our infrastructure so that there are really only 2 options for transport -- cars short-distance; planes long-distance (and either for those in-between hauls). We need to bring back reliable rail transportation, now! Rail doesn't need to depend on oil, if electrified. Trips of 500 miles with high speed rail would be fairly competitive with air travel -- travel in comfort (crazy leg room), no security hassles, downtown-to-downtown travel. James Howard Kunstler likes to write that the U.S. has a national train system that Bulgaria would be ashamed of. We need to wake up to the reality of energy supplies out there and build a transportation infrastructure that is the most efficient way of transporting people.
  • halrogers · 1 year ago
    Maybe that's why Rail stocks are up. It's not so much the fuel they use but the low friction, lower drag coefficient, fewer employees needed to move tons of material and people. As to using electricity -- electricity requires a generating source, coal or nuclear or natural gas and huge transmission lines and associated losses like heat and radiation, but forget about those details, why not power the trains with solar cells, and use windmills to collect energy when the trains go downhill.

    Bulgaria is small, 7 million, compared to US population almost 300 million. I think there are things in the U.S. that Bulgaria wished they had too. But it's easier to work with small countries than large ones.
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    CBS reporting Russert death.
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    Southwest is about to get a jump in sales!
  • halrogers · 1 year ago
    What we need are government run airlines, with government employees taking care of all these annoyances like changing ticket prices, fuel cost related issues.

    Obama has the best ideas, more government, more taxes, and let's get rid of all these corporations and private jobs. It's time for everyone to either work for the government, or go on welfare, and let the rich people pay for everything we all need. Go Obama, the man with experience and knowledge about every important issue.

    Question: What is Obama going to do to help stop plate tectonics? Also, we need to do something about sunspots, the evidence is fairly clear that more solar activity (shown by sunspots) means more energy (leading to more heat). If we can stop that, and increase the earths orbit a bit, and stop the precession, that would go a long way toward stopping climatic changes and radical weather cycles.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    umm... what happened to chimpy's economic policies that were going to lower gas to $2.00/gallon??

    you know what? if higher taxes means better governing, more control over outsourcing jobs to other countries (thereby better pay for US citizens), I'm all for it.

    Question: when was the last time you got a cost of living pay increase?

    c'mon, don't be shy...
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    Meanwhile, with HIGH GAS PRICES only wealthy people will be left to be driving their cars.

    Is this bush and his criminal buddies last act for stealing from Americans because they know President Obama will end corporate welfare to oil companies?
  • rgblk · 1 year ago
    At least you can afford to fly. I've seen your blog posts from all over the globe, so stop your crying. There are people here having a hard time making ends meet, putting food on the table, that's a real problem. You can do without flying, not eating. So grow up and stop your whing!
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    It isn't economcs, it's one of those coach-only social caste things. For $500.00 more in business or 1st class, the inconveniences vanish. You see, too many of the little people have been flying lately. That's unacceptable. Ask any Republican.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    but.... but... repugnicans can always fly on lobbyists planes!

    I can barely afford to drive to work... now I can't afford to visit my family every year.

    the conspiracy theorist part of my brain is making me wonder if its easier for martial law to take affect if the people are immobilized... no flying, no driving. stay where you are, we'll come for you eventually.
  • emfpdx · 1 year ago
    These baggage and seat reservation charges aren't unusual in Europe - but their ticket prices are correspondingly lower. And "seat reservation" doesn't mean "if you don't reserve a seat, you don't get to fly" as far as I know. It just means that when you show up you get whatever seat isn't already reserved. That's the way it works on the European airlines, anyway. Unless the airlines are selling more tickets on a single flight than they have seats for, which would be illegal, wouldn't it?
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    they regularly oversell flights in the US. guess it isn't illegal, because nobody goes after them for it.

    ... in fact, they've been propped up by our tax dollars for YEARS.

    why is it that European airlines can offer in-flight services, be on time, aren't as expensive... and there are MORE of them... and yet, they manage to turn a profit?

    couldn't have anything to do with the fact that in most European companies, the executive officers aren't paid WAY more that the employees that actually DO the work, could it?

    when people like Carly Fiorina can get FIRED from a company, and walk away with $23 Million (that's what they're reporting anyway, it isn't true... she got somewhere in the neighborhood of $108 Million), and the company lays off 30,000 people (to cut costs)... what does that tell you?

    something is seriously wrong in the corporate wealth distribution plan here.
  • jiminportlandoregon · 1 year ago
    Propped up by your tax dollars? Explain how.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    they've been giving US carriers subsidies for years to keep them from going under... you think the mortgage buyout is the first time our government has used our money to prop up corporations in need?
  • jiminportlandoregon · 1 year ago
    You're mistaken. After 9/11, several airlines borrowed money - all paid back early, I might add - to keep them afloat. Also, it was paid back with interest. And, for the record, not all airlines took the offer of assistance. The government hasn't given airlines in this country ANY tax subsidies since 1978, when the airline industry was deregulated. Before you disagree, you should be able to cite examples rather than just say "they've been giving US carriers subsidies for years to keep them from going under". IF that were the case, where are PanAm and TWA? Also, if that were the case why did US Airways, United, Delta and Northwest file for bankruptcy and not receive any monetary assistance from the government? Don't get me wrong, I don't think they should receive any monetary assistance from the government, however, No one seems to be concerned about Bear Stearns, one of the creators of the sup prime mortgage problem, receiving 30Billion bailout.
    Also, I think airline service is abysmal for the most part, however, your ticket prices, when adjusted for inflation, (I'm talking about economy class - not business or first) are less than they were in 1985.
  • knightgj · 1 year ago
    European Airlines have been relatively sheltered from the increase of oil prices thanks to a strong euro and the fact that crude is tied to the dollar. They haven't seen the same increase in costs of the domestic carriers, hence they haven't felt the squeeze.... yet.

    Euro companies still pay officers a pretty penny. And if you could offer a golden parachute scenario within the US Airline industry (honestly never heard of one worth mentioning in the same book as Carly Fiorina) it could actually validate your point.
  • TomJoad · 1 year ago
    Airlines suck...REALLY suck. They oversell seats, they "can't guarantee that your paid ticket will be honored at the time you arranged to travel" they make you jump through their hoops...and I have never seen a more hostile group of folks than people that work in that industry.

    They constantly complain that we consumers "just want the cheapest ticket possible"...well, duh.
    Actually it doesn't even apply to me, I am willing to pay more for legroom, for in-flight food, for courtesy, but where can I buy it? No where. No airline offers it.
    It's like they are in the last throes and just want to rake in money even if it means no one wants to fly after.
  • matutinal · 1 year ago
    I routinely have to fly from SF to LA for work, and I hate it. The worst part of it is the "regular" travelers - the macho salesmen who have giant jumbo rectangular roller bags that they carry on so as to avoid checking any bags. The bags barely fit in the overhead bins as it is, and recently on a flight two salesmen nearly got in a fistfight over who would get to stuff his bag in the last remaining bin space. The new fees will only intensify the giant roller bag wars, especially on all "commuter" flights.
  • KISSman · 1 year ago
    Right now Southwest is the only airline I would even consider.

    The one charge that I am mad as hell about is the $15 for the first bag fee. Who doesn't usually have one bag to check? It's robbery. If you want to jack up my ticket $15, then do it. But I hate this fee-for-everything nonsense.

    Furthermore, the skycaps are getting screwed because a lot of people aren't tipping them now since they have to fork over $15. I guess the only thing worse than that is being one of the thousands who are losing their jobs at the airlines.

    This new charge of choosing your seat is also crazy as well. The airplane seating in coach should not be a class system.

    I also wouldn't feel bad if these airlines met their demise. We, the consumer, are getting killed everywhere we look right now. And it's just frustrating when the airlines have their hand in your pocket a handful of times before you even get to sit down.
  • lilybart · 1 year ago
    I live in NYC and this summer we are taking 3 day weekend trips to MA and PA. No flying for me!
  • Bubbles · 1 year ago
    Pay toilets anyone? How about a nickle a square for tp?
  • Skycat · 1 year ago
    How much are they charging for oxygen?
  • Ellie · 1 year ago
    I had to pay an extra $6 to pick a seat on an AirTran flight. The options in coach ranged from $6 to $20 per seat to pre-select a seat. I prefer knowing where I'm going to sit before I get to the airport; and I prefer window seats, so I was willing to pay the extra $6. It just means I won't be going out to lunch next week :)