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AMERICAblog: Oliver Willis: Hillary's "Klan-style talking points"

  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    The Clintons' "obliterate" strategy.....

    "The frame is specific -- that's why Clinton referred to hard working white Americans. What happened to "blue collar Americans?" Oh wait, there are a lot of hard working black and brown blue collar/working class Americans, and many of them they voted for Obama, so she had to slice that demo down to the bottom line. Dog whistles no more. "
    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/8/1241...

  • sittenpretty · 1 year ago
    lest we forget ONCE A GOLDWATER GIRL,always a Goldwater girl...leopards do NOT change their spots
  • dad · 1 year ago
    embarassed for her

    shame
  • sittenpretty · 1 year ago
    mebbe we should call Chelsea,and say,your mom is OFF the rails
  • sittenpretty · 1 year ago
    hey,hey

    Edwards' Campaign Manager to Endorse Obama
    May 08, 2008 6:45 AM

    ABC News has learned that David Bonior, the campaign manager for the 2008 presidential race of Sen. John Edwards, D-NC, will endorse Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, today.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    dad....I am too...she has become a laughingstock.
  • Miket298 · 1 year ago
    Well that was enough for me to finally send a polite but strongly worded letter to her campaign asking her to concede. know its just a small step but hopefully many more are doing the same
  • Becka4 · 1 year ago
    PLEASE SOMEONE ANYONE get her out! Everything that went b/4 was slimy enough--BUT this racist stuff is so demeaning and divisive even I can't believe she said it!! The old saying "sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me" is WRONG. WORDS can destroy.
    I am a 64 year old caucasian women and have never been involved in politics b/4. Now supporting Obama from the beginning with calls to all states. He is right for our country and all he has done is to try to make our country better.
    This racist slander and lies makes me cry and God too!!
    Morals/ethics and knowing right from wrong are the same across all races!!!
    BUT Hillary does not have them.
  • blackwolf · 1 year ago
    Haha..I love it! I knew she should would show her true colors (no pun intended).
    This is the true Hillary folks. She just put the last nail in her coffin for sure.
  • dad · 1 year ago
    it is a cry for help.

    intervention.
  • SINGING_TROLL · 1 year ago
    Get a rope
  • SINGING_TROLL · 1 year ago
    KNOW THEM BY THE COMPANY THEY KEEP

    "Through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the Fellowship. Her collaborations with right-wingers such as Senator Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) and former Senator Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) grow in part from that connection. "A lot of evangelicals would see that as just cynical exploitation," says the Reverend Rob Schenck, a former leader of the militant anti-abortion group Operation Rescue who now ministers to decision makers in Washington. "I don't....there is a real good that is infected in people when they are around Jesus talk, and open Bibles, and prayer."
    http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09...
  • sittenpretty · 1 year ago
    from TPM posster

    I, too, am distressed by the notion that the Obama campaign might agree to pay off Hillary's campaign debt -- particularly now, after the North Carolina primary, when it is clear that every campaign dollar she racks up from now on is wasted money. (She has wasted enough already in mismanagement, etc.)

    As a substitute teacher I make $75 a day. I have gladly and repeatedly given the Obama campaign money (that I truly could not afford to give) precisely because I support his stand for honesty and integrity.

    I did not give that money to bail out someone who has demonstrated anything but ethical behavior. Someone whose limitless entitlement complex apparently extends, now, to expectations of being rewarded financially simply for doing the right thing and bowing out -- whether she does it gracefully or kicking and screaming.

    The Obama campaign is welcome to use my money to get him elected. If there is a substantial balance in the account, it's fine with me for them to donate the rest to the DNC. But....the campaign committee needs to understand that it is creating a real stumbling block to further donations -- just when it really counts -- if it agrees to this plan.
  • Ginger_FL · 1 year ago
    DNC #: 202-863-8000

    Tell them to put a fork in Hillbot and Soon !!
  • gonzalez · 1 year ago
    This woman has fallen off a cliff. The media should call her on it. I have never seen anything like her. Thank God she is not getting the nomination. She will do and say anything to get votes. She is worse than the republicans.

    Why are these people voting for this idiot? Don't they know any better or are they really racists? I'll go with racists.
  • SINGING_TROLL · 1 year ago
    Know them some more...

    "Niebuhr and Tillich's combination of aggressiveness in foreign affairs and limited domestic ambition naturally led Clinton toward the gop. She was a Goldwater Girl who, under the tutelage of her high school history teacher Paul Carlson (whom Jones describes as "to the right of the John Birchers"), attended biweekly anticommunist meetings and later served as president of Wellesley's Young Republicans chapter. Out of step with the era's radicalism, Clinton wrote Jones from college, lamenting that her fellow students didn't believe that one could be "a mind conservative and a heart liberal." To Jones, this question indicated that Clinton shared Niebuhr's notion of Christians needing to have "a dark enough view of life that they can be realistic about what's possible."

    http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09...
  • SINGING_TROLL · 1 year ago
    Really, really get to know them...

    "When Clinton first came to Washington in 1993, one of her first steps was to join a Bible study group. For the next eight years, she regularly met with a Christian "cell" whose members included Susan Baker, wife of Bush consigliere James Baker; Joanne Kemp, wife of conservative icon Jack Kemp; Eileen Bakke, wife of Dennis Bakke, a leader in the anti-union Christian management movement; and Grace Nelson, the wife of Senator Bill Nelson, a conservative Florida Democrat."

    http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09...
  • SINGING_TROLL · 1 year ago
    There is just SO MUCH to know...

    "Clinton's prayer group was part of the Fellowship (or "the Family"), a network of sex-segregated cells of political, business, and military leaders dedicated to "spiritual war" on behalf of Christ, many of them recruited at the Fellowship's only public event, the annual National Prayer Breakfast. (Aside from the breakfast, the group has "made a fetish of being invisible," former Republican Senator William Armstrong has said.) The Fellowship believes that the elite win power by the will of God, who uses them for his purposes. Its mission is to help the powerful understand their role in God's plan."
    http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09...
  • SINGING_TROLL · 1 year ago
    More



    "The Fellowship's ideas are essentially a blend of Calvinism and Norman Vincent Peale, the 1960s preacher of positive thinking. It's a cheery faith in the "elect" chosen by a single voter—God—and a devotion to Romans 13:1: "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers....The powers that be are ordained of God." Or, as Coe has put it, "we work with power where we can, build new power where we can't."

    When Time put together a list of the nation's 25 most powerful evangelicals in 2005, the heading for Coe's entry was "The Stealth Persuader." "You know what I think of when I think of Doug Coe?" the Reverend Schenck (a Coe admirer) asked us. "I think literally of the guy in the smoky back room that you can't even see his face. He sits in the corner, and you see the cigar, and you see the flame, and you hear his voice—but you never see his face. He's that shadowy figure."

    Coe has been an intimate of every president since Ford, but he rarely imposes on chief executives, who see him as a slightly mystical but apolitical figure. Rather, Coe uses his access to the Oval Office as currency with lesser leaders. "If Doug Coe can get you some face time with the President of the United States," one official told the author of a Princeton study of the National Prayer Breakfast last year, "then you will take his call and seek his friendship. That's power."
  • HereinDC · 1 year ago
    John.
    Great comment you added.
    thanks
  • SINGING_TROLL · 1 year ago
    "Coe's friends include former Attorney General John Ashcroft, Reaganite Edwin Meese III, and ultraconservative Rep. Joe Pitts (R-Pa.). Under Coe's guidance, Meese has hosted weekly prayer breakfasts for politicians, businesspeople, and diplomats, and Pitts rose from obscurity to head the House Values Action Team, an off-the-record network of religious right groups and members of Congress created by Tom DeLay. The corresponding Senate Values Action Team is guided by another Coe protégé, Brownback, who also claims to have recruited King Abdullah of Jordan into a regular study of Jesus' teachings."
  • SINGING_TROLL · 1 year ago
    "The Fellowship's long-term goal is "a leadership led by God—leaders of all levels of society who direct projects as they are led by the spirit." According to the Fellowship's archives, the spirit has in the past led its members in Congress to increase U.S. support for the Duvalier regime in Haiti and the Park dictatorship in South Korea. The Fellowship's God-led men have also included General Suharto of Indonesia; Honduran general and death squad organizer Gustavo Alvarez Martinez; a Deutsche Bank official disgraced by financial ties to Hitler; and dictator Siad Barre of Somalia, plus a list of other generals and dictators. Clinton, says Schenck, has become a regular visitor to Coe's Arlington, Virginia, headquarters, a former convent where Coe provides members of Congress with sex-segregated housing and spiritual guidance."
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    is this hillary's version of ross perot's "You people" comment?
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Quick! Wolfie is interviewing Obama. The Man is soooo good...
  • Jim Olson · 1 year ago
    Singing Troll, this was news weeks ago. We got it.
  • Andyz · 1 year ago
    Hillary KKKlinton.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    seriously...

    why would hillary add those two words "white people" to her pitch??

    did she actually believe that wouldn't be noticed? did she actually believe that anything out of her mouth, said to a crowd of people... was only going to be heard by those specific people?

    was she addressing a klan rally??
  • nashcountync · 1 year ago
    Just shut up Hillary. Enough is freakin' enough!
  • Ben Dover · 1 year ago
    Let Hillary pay off her own damn campaign debts. Sen. Obama owes Hillary NOTHING. She and Bill are multi-millionairs and can well afford to pay for her failed campaign and the debts incurred.
    Sen. Obama will need every dime he can raise in order to beat the neo-con swiftboat machine's attack ads between now and November. If Hillary were actually the statesman that she believes herself to be, she would be donating campaign cash to Sen. Obama to use in defeating McSame.
    Step aside Hillary, for the good of the party and the good of the nation.

    Obama '08!
  • shanobama · 1 year ago
    Hillary is now the official Zelig.

    She is just channeling the people of Appalachia.
    The Queen of Appalachia!
    A crown of dirty coal.
  • Sage24 · 1 year ago
    I wonder why her supporters cannot see just how inconsistent she has been right along, changing the goal posts to suit her, saying one thing, when she has done another, even the fact that she initially agreed with the other candidates not to count MI and FL. It also amazes me that they cannot see the startling contrast when it comes to Barack Obama. He has remained consistent and steady, right throughout the campaign.

    Shame on this woman for bringing up race, time and time again.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    ya know... if I lived in West Virginia...

    I'd think that she just painted my home state as a bunch of bigoted, uneducated rednecks.

    yup, that'd get my vote for sure!

    /snark
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    As an older southern white woman, I have seen every single form of the English language that is loaded with racism, overt or not.

    "Hardworking white people" is one of the most egregious of the coded ones.. We have seen lots of others, too, such as "suburban moms" and "NASCAR dads"...
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    The slimy Wolfson is on Hardball, trying to justify the racist goings on by the Clinton campaign.

    He actually asked, "Why isn't Obama doing better in WVA?" And of course, Tweety let it go...but I would have slammed back, "Well, stop your racist campaign up there, moron."
  • firebrand · 1 year ago
    This is both obnoxious and sad:

    Clinton's Open Letter To Obama On MI and FL

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/m.s.-bellows/clin...
  • Sugapea · 1 year ago
    If Obama refers to his multitude of 'Black' supporters...
    That's apropos?

    She merely stated the facts!

    'White' and 'Older' voters ARE pulling for Clinton.
    Clearly the 'Black' and 'Youth' vote ARE supporting Obama.

    But if we were to combine these two...

    We'd have a blending of the past and the future.
    As an astrologer, looking at their charts, I gotta tell you...this combo could create a dynamic reality out of what was a far-out, creative or hoped for idea!
    Just mho.
  • firebrand · 1 year ago
    I think you're overgeneralizing a bit there Sugar Pea :-)

    I know plenty of white voters who support Obama. A good number of us are older (whatever that means).......and lot of us are independents who think Obama is the right choice for our nation.

    Just saying :-)
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    Hillary only has a lock on the stupid vote. No wonder Clinton didn't fund higher education. They need under-educated bigots to triangulate and win. The Clintons are undercover Dixiecrats.
  • firebrand · 1 year ago
    You got it Nigel.

    The Clinton Agenda : No bigot left behind!!!!
  • BorninUSA · 1 year ago
    Unbelievable!!! Wolfson on Hardball is saying Hillary still thinks she can be the nominee. Did I miss something? Even Russert said no way she can make it. And that should be the last word. lol

    Anyway, is Hillary so deluded she actually thinks, or are Bill and her advisers telling her, she has a chance. And what is with her saying "white working people?" She is still pushing for Florida and Michigan to be counted. Florida and Michigan knew what was going to happen but they went ahead and did it. I wasn't born yesterday and I think I know that means Florida and Michigan screwed themselves. But not Hillary. Now she and Bill are out campaigning with "white" voters and what about the Party saying there would be no negative campaigning or they would rein her in. Clinton is a joke and so is the Democratic Party for allowing her to control everything.
  • BorninUSA · 1 year ago
    I am so worked up over Clinton's dirty tricks. Why don't the Party heads tell her to STFU? Sick, sick, sick of the experts saying Hillary is a fighter and she will give up when it suits HER. Obama has worked to unite the Party and Hillary has worked to tear the Party apart. If the Party insists that Obama take Hillary on as a running mate, so help me God I will vote for the repug candidate. I hate Hillary more and more each day. Sorry, I still think she is hoping Obama may get hit by a truck or something worse and she will win. They are talking about how she runs her "endgame" and how it will affect her political future. As far as I am concerned and if I have any vote in it, she HAS NO POLITICAL FUTURE.
  • jr · 1 year ago
    Hillary's supporters love their stormfrontisms
  • KISSman · 1 year ago
    Imagine if it were the Republican nominee touting their strength with "white Americans" over Barack Obama -- wouldn't most of us be bothered by that? The only difference is that it's Hillary who is currently pretending to be a Democrat, but it's no less divisive and devious.
  • BoiseNick · 1 year ago
    Hill-a-Racist !
  • SociologistTina · 1 year ago
    Thanks for this post, John. Good points.