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I'm sure the daughter knew that abortion was not a choice in the Palin family, even if she wanted to.
Thats the America that McCain/Palin wants to plunge us all into.
how very Republican.
He enlisted last year on 9/11 and will be shipped out on 9/11.
Small Sacrifices.
"The McCain aide insisted a key point to keep in mind is that Bristol decided to keep the baby, a decision "supported by her parents."
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Conventions/story...
You're missing the story where Todd said he had to go back to work because they needed the money.
That girl needs to be rescued from this situation so she can make her own choices in her life.
Marry the daddy? Who in their right mind would want their 17-old daughter marry some boy just because he got her pregnant?
they get to chose.
its you who doesn't.
just like its ok for dick cheney's daughter.
but not for you.
see?
for terri schiavo it was for public debate.
it is you that they are worried about
for you, wire tapping without warrant.
you are under suspicion.
they are above it.
simple.
you get yours raised.
its the principle of the thing.
you don't get any if you can't pay for your own.
you look healthy enough to them.
see. mccain gets it.
she's the perfect poster child for how well abstinence-until-marriage education works.
oh the irony.
Most Christian groups are against mothers having an amniocentesis.
What a freaking joke this has turned out to be.
Yeah -- he knew about it beforehand. Yeah. Right. I would love to be a fly on the wall at RNC headquarter. I'll bet people are throwing things around the room -- at least the ones who aren't puking in their wastebaskets.
Rove must be on the verge of a major stroke. Twenty years of skullduggery, treason, and election theft ruined by a 16-year-old who didn't know what condoms were for.
we can attack on the blogs as much as we want, it'll never become MSM fodder. they reported the daughter is pregnant, that's as far as it'll go.
reporters can't stand being made to look like bullies... so they won't point out the obvious ironies here.
"Have your baby and we'll take care of you, or abort and we'll throw you out (with the baby and the bathwater). You decide."
Bristol kinda knows what its like to be a gay child in a fundie family now.
As a right wing politician she had to advocate the pro-life stance. It's hypocritical, and bullshit, but that is the way of the Republican politicians. Dishonesty first. Actually, winning first and if it takes being dishonest, they don't care. Maybe she salves her conscience saying that she wanted what was right, to be pro-life. At least, she apparently still loves her daughter, more than can be said of many of these right wing assos. AT least, she upholds one Christian principle, family first. She still loves her daughter and apparently loves her grandson.
What galls me about these right wingers, is that they can't extend that sympathy and love to other people, don't give a damn about the pain, suffering and even death they inflict on others. Often they look down on others as subhuman and undeserving of being treated with sympathy. Therefore, they see nothing wrong with exploiting others for their own benefit as we see in their willingness to watch others die for the evil war in Iraq ... of course, as well as withholding birth control and abortion for families overburdened with unwanted kids. Then again, they also see pregnancy as God's punishment on those promiscuous subhuman girls.
I am so sorry you experienced that kiind of spiritual violence in your family. It amazes me to no end how KKKristians somehow believe they have the "mind of God" and can "disown" us LGBT from the church. No one can take away the fact we are CHILDREN OF GOD!
Not that I don't agree with y'all about the hypocrisy of Palin et al. I just think there are plenty of other ways to attack McCain (his obvious bad judgement on many levels) without picking on teenage girls.
It was up to her to protect her daughter's privacy -- not anyone else.
She fucked up.
The reality is it isn't about morality at all but power, and ability abuse that power, get their jollies kicking around, abusing, condemning and causing great pain in others. They claim love, but hatred is the real creed of the Fundamentalists.
Palin knew what kind of people she was dealing with, she knew this would come out. She knew her daughter would be held to public scrutiny. She just didn't expect the OTHER story about Trig. But since it came up they spun it to get some sympathy. The students who said Bristol was preggers were correct. There is no way you can keep a secret like that in High school.
funny...I don't go to church and I never came up pregnant. It was always the church girls who got into "trouble".
maturity comes with age... again, what kind of decision making skill does this show on Palin's part? forcing two teenagers to get married because they never learned about condoms and her daughter wasn't on the pill?
no, she should be hammered on this. and I DO believe Bristol should be a poster child for why 'abstinence only' sex ed DOESN'T WORK!
what's Bristol's birthday? if she's 5 months pregnant, she was likely only 16 when she conceived.... how old is the father??
I suppose they gave the father a choice too.... marry her or go to jail on rape charges.
what's Bristol's birthday? if she's 5 months pregnant, she was likely only 16 when she conceived.... how old is the father??
I suppose they gave the father a choice too.... marry her or go to jail on rape charges.
"I have said before and I will repeat again: People's families are off limits," Obama said. "And people's children are especially off limits. This shouldn't be part of politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as a governor and or her potential perfromance as a vice president. So I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know my mother had me when she was 18, and how a family deals with issues and teenage children, that shouldn’t be a topic of our politics."
On charges that his campaign has stoked the story via liberal blogs:
"I am offended by that statement. There is no evidence at all that any of this involved us," he said. "Our people were not involved in any way in this, and they will not be. And if I thought there was somebody in my campaign who was involved in something like, they that would be fired."
On the other hand, troll claims that Chelsea has already had 4 abortions.
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com...
Of all the things we can hammer that old-ass bastard on, all the things he's said and done, we are all turning into the Harper Valley PTA on it, and it is all that is being discussesd. Meanwhile, jackbooted thug police are raiding peaceful protesters in Minnesota, attempting third-world intimidation tactics, in masks and with assault rifles, throwing people on the floor, preemtive arrests, some apparently without warrant (or at least not producing it when demanded)....
I mean, it's fine to go over his screwup here too, but lets keep some perspective too?
Maybe that was the plan. Get us sidetracked, talking about the vice. Dan Quayle wasn't ready to run the country, and never was smart enough...we joked about it, but here it is becoming the center. McCain is old, chance is he could have health problems (he wouldn't have to die, but could be debilitated) or...as we now know Reagan was slipping HARD while still president...did anyone inform the American people? Think they will this time? (I saw video of him being interviewed, where he just froze on the white house lawn, Nancy looking horrified while keeping her game face...Reagen just a blank stare, Nancy stage whispers out of the corner of her mouth "well..that's about all" and it's like a switch went on, Ronny looks up and says the same thing...WHILE he was president!".
So it IS important, but her daughter, the hypocrisy, we need to keep this SIMPLE folks. Get too many things and people turn off. She isn't qualified by a LONG shot.
IF we need to, get Hillart also to say so...that would be the way to go.
"Palin's husband has DWI arrest"
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
Blame here blame there, never their fault because they are P E R F E C T! And are the only ones with God's blessing.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/01/palin-527-s...
She seems to have lied just a little bit...again.
And for people that are saying this is a private family matter, I have to disagree because McCain made it our business.
McCain and Palin would gladly overturn Roe v Wade and make choices for all women when it comes to abortion and birth control.
poor decision making skills...
lack of qualifications/experience/judgment ...
the obvious hypocrisy of the traditional family values party members...
the Supreme Court makeup hangs in the balance...
the fact they announce this right when a hurricane hits New Orleans...
he has a dwi arrest.
their unmarried 17 year old daughter is pregnant.
questions surrounding the last birth.
she was unmarried and pregnant with their first.
nice family values.
If anyone had any lingering doubt the conservative movement is completely hypocritical -- just imagine if conservatives would use the same reasoning they're coming up with today for any of their other "bedrock" issues. It wouldn't happen -- because their "principles" only apply as long as they don't have to live them nor have to defend them when one of their own turns out to be -- um -- human.
To wit:
Palin says 17-year-old daughter is gay
By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 1 minute ago
ST. PAUL, Minn. - John McCain's running mate Sarah Palin said Monday that her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is gay, an announcement campaign aides said was aimed at rebutting Internet rumors that Palin's youngest son, born in April, was actually her daughter's.
A statement released by the campaign said that Bristol Palin will come out of the closet and marry her lesbian lover, like Dick Cheney's lesbian daughter has done. Bristol Palin's lesbian baby is due later.
"Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. We're proud of Bristol's decision to marry the person she loves and even prouder to become grandparents," Sarah and Todd Palin said in the brief statement.
The disclosure of the Palin's sexuality came on the opening day of the Republican National Convention, scaled back because of Hurricane Gustav, and three days after McCain named Palin as his running mate. Other news was likely to overshadow the disclosure.
"Bristol and the young woman she will marry are going to realize very quickly the challenges of getting married as a same-sex couple, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family," they added. The lesbian lover was identified in the statement as "Pat," but the campaign said it was not disclosing her last name or age.
Internet bloggers have been suggesting that Bristol Palin had recently given birth to a child. Palin spokesman Bill McAllister emphatically denied those rumors, and McCain adviser Mark Salter said the campaign announced the daughter's homosexuality to rebut them.
"Senator McCain's view is this is a private family matter. As parents, (the Palins) love their daughter unconditionally and are going to support their daughter," said McCain spokesman Steve Schmidt.
"Life happens," he said.
"An American family," added Salter.
The advisers said Palin told them about her daughter's sexuality during lengthy discussions about her background. At several points during the discussions, McCain's team warned Palin that the scrutiny into her private life would be intense and that there was nothing she could do to prepare for it.
Prominent religious conservatives, many of whom have been lukewarm toward McCain's candidacy, predicted that Palin's daughter's homosexuality would not diminish conservative Christian enthusiasm over the vice presidential hopeful.
"I think it's a very private matter," said Roberta Combs, president of the Christian Coalition of America. "It's a matter that should stay in the family and they have to work through it together. My prayers go out to them."
Added Combs: "We're excited about the governor and think she's going to do well."
Mathew Staver, dean of Liberty University School of Law, said: "We're all sinners."
Staver also criticized anyone who would seek to make it a negative campaign issue: "It's absolutely shameful to put her child in the spotlight. She's not running for office. When someone can't face issues, they try to tear down a family."
(When are we going to find out that her brother or father abused her? It;s the only piece left in this puzzle.)
This is not a private family matter because Palin wants to be President and rule over us all with her stupid Bible nonsense. The Christo-fascism made a mess of her own family and now she wants to inflict that same pain on the country as a whole.
Condoms for everyone, STAT! it's only a stop-gap, but it will keep everyone safe for a while. (It certainly would have helped her daughter- TWICE.)
Watch this be the next thingy. Apparently, she was part of some kind of Alaskan separatist movement. Jesus Christ.
Sarah could go a long way to showing that she really does value life by counseling her daughter to consider giving her child a better life with mature, loving parents.
There's probably some sort of right wing ethic against this concept.
I meant to add that she Palin would have gotten her daughter an abortion if it was at all possible, then tel the neighbors not to have an abortion.
And now today's big announcement. Something really fishy is going on.
We can't afford someone with John McSame's judgment.
I mean, a puppet can't be a Maverick, right? Throwing a curve ball at your handler means you aren't in charge right?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2096/2475513320_...
while this was occurring:
http://members.aol.com/pushymia/katrina_victim1...
THERE ARE NO DO-OVERS FOR KATRINA just because this was a weaker storm and didn't strike New Orleans head on!
Watch, just watch...
Was that before or after he came down with Alzheimer's?
No wonder SP looks like Tina Fey, it's the sequel to "Baby Mama"
Isn't Biden a great pick?
Isn?t Palin supposed to be cookin' her man a meal right now (and shouldn't he be gainfully employed full-time)? That's what they tell every other woman to do.
pregnant? Maybe less, so it would speak to a pattern of behavior. Any OB/Gyn experts out there? Can one get pregnant the same month they
give birth?
This is outrageous that a VP candidate under investigation, connected to Stevens and her motherhood in question is put up as the best VP candidate by the GOP
The woman singing the Star Spangled Banner for the Rep. convention, sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2008/...
Palin will be a heartbeat from President and has very poor reasoning skills.
The biggest joke for you clowns. I am rolling on floor laughing my ass off at the joke today.
Hmmm....
So which ticket has family values?
Republican--Mccain leaves disabled wife for trophy sugar momma
Palin and her daughter got pregnant aout of wedlock
Democratic-Obama married to the same woman for 15 years, with two kids. no sign of any affairs...
Joe Biden-Widower who took the oath of office by his critically ill children's bedside after losing a wife and daughter.
hmmmmmmmmmmmm