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AMERICAblog: Paulson bailout plan fails to add any regulation to Wall Street

  • An_American_Karol · 1 year ago
    I sent emails asking for oversight to both of my senators.
  • bejammin075 · 1 year ago
    Under Paulson's proposed rules, would it be possible for him to simply deposit the funds into an account just him self, then laugh histerically, and yell "FUCK YOOOOOUUUUUUUU!!!!" ??

    If so, I think we need some more stringent rules.
  • bejammin075 · 1 year ago
    Ooops. "just for himself" I meant to say.
  • 2008 · 1 year ago
    Wow, Ohio's unemployment rate just hit 7.4%. That's pretty bad, as bad as back in 1992.

    You gotta hand it to the Bushes--they not only steal votes there, they also wreck the state's economy & steal money right out of their ragged pockets.

    As a former Buckeye--THAT PISSES ME OFF TO NO END!!!

    OHIO--Don't vote for Bush/McCain again and get a paper receipt for your vote!!!
  • 2008 · 1 year ago
    To add, my friends in Ohio are highly torqued off at current affairs under this craphead "asshole" president, as they call him.

    I'm afraid that the next American Revolution may come out of the Midwest--
    Ohio or Michigan--mark my words.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Many in other states would love to assist with the overthrow, violent or no, of any group that passes this shit to enslave generations to come.
  • WDemDem · 1 year ago
    I'm in. Will travel.
  • greyroadster · 1 year ago
    Conundrum: if we don't have competent people defining the oversight rules, they could create more trouble by forcing companies to spend more time doing reporting than actual risk analysis. I think some of this has happened with Fannie & Freddie (based on my knowledge of their risk analysis dept's)... whatever happens, let's hope there is room for an Obama Admin to adjust.
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    I drive my baby every way (too much, magic bus)
    Each time I go a different way (too much, magic bus)

    I want it, I want it, I want it, I want it ...

    Every day youll see the dust (too much, magic bus)
    As I drive my baby in my magic bus (too much, magic bus)


    --The Who
  • Patriot · 1 year ago
    I'm surprised nobody has called this tragedy what it really is. THE LOOTING OF AMERICA!
  • greyroadster · 1 year ago
    Next the McCain will say this is the new meaning of "ownership society"
  • dad · 1 year ago
    corporape
  • csnet · 1 year ago
    I received this email, signed the petition, and forwarded it to my family and friends. They are signing it and forwarding it as well.

    It is absurd that this bailout would occur with no regulation to rein in the excesses that brought us where we are today:

    Dear Friend,

    Congress is on the brink of making a one-sided deal to give George W. Bush
    a blank check to bail out his pals - offering nearly (or perhaps more
    than) a trillion taxpayer dollars to Wall Street to cover its bad debts.
    That works out to somewhere between $2000 and $5000 from every American
    family. So what do the taxpayers get in return?

    Nothing. No new regulation or oversight to help avoid this kind of crisis
    in the future. No public interest givebacks to help people whose homes are
    in the hands of the banks. Perhaps most shockingly of all, the taxpayers
    get absolutely no share in the profits if and when these finance giants
    bounce back, even though we are now assuming a great deal of the risk.

    This is worse than a bad deal - this isn't a deal at all. This is a blank
    check to some of the richest companies in the world.

    I just signed a petition calling on key members of Congress to impose a
    few sensible conditions to this bailout in order to protect the American
    people -- I hope you will too.

    Please have a look and take action.

    http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/no_blank_ch...

    Thanks!
  • PlusDistance · 1 year ago
    Should I contact my congressman and senators by email and/or their online feedback forms, or would phone calls carry more weight?
  • Savage8862 · 1 year ago
    I am fearful that we are going to lose the White House. I am fearful that we will lose seats in Congress. I just cannot understand why the polls are so close when every educated person has said that Democrats should be walking away with this election.

    This country cannot afford and survive another Bush term which it will be if McCain and Palin get in. We will be unemployed, at war, with no health care, and a theocracy.

    What the hell is wrong with the American people? Are we racist and we refuse to vote for a black man? Are we being swayed by the lies from the McCain camp? Are we idiots and just don't care? Are we accepting of McCain's lack of economic knowledge, foreign policy knowledge?

    I have looked at all of the swing state polls. I have looked at all state polls and I see a trend. The trend is moving away from Obama and favoring McCain and I just don't understand why. For the first time in my 42 years, I am beginning not to like what this country is becoming and fearful of what this country may turn into.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    The thought of another republican administration is horrid.

    I can't believe Americans could vote in 4 more years of this crap.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    I can't believe half of America voted for Bu$h twice. I still can't believe it.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    As a recent Digby post pointed out, the bailout resembles what every BushCo clown wants no oversight.

    On top of that the money gets spent to bail out foreign banks like Phil Graham's UBS.

    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

    The attitiude on Main Street is heating up such that any ass clown in Congress that votes yes on this current bailout will more than likely find a quick and timely demise, to their political careers that is. They better start making plans on living in DC, for they will be tar and feathered at home, at best.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    demise is right....Yglesias has this post from NRO:

    Yuval Levin at NRO writes:

    "Everyone should read the actual text of the proposed bailout plan the administration is sending to Congress. It’s clearly not a final version (the part about only purchasing from financial institutions headquartered in the US has already been changed, as Kathryn notes below), but it’s the essential shape of the proposal. See if you can read through the whole of it without concluding that everyone in Washington has lost their minds."

    Not everyone’s lost their minds. Unfortunately, the people who matter seem to have.

    http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2008...
  • dad · 1 year ago
    they aren't trying to solve it.
    they are trying to keep it going.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    they(Bush admin) want to declare an emergency and cancel the election???

    A caller on Air America last week was seriously worried about that.
  • sittenpretty · 1 year ago
    The Big Question: 2+2=4?
    The New York Times reports this evening that "foreign banks, which were initially excluded from the [Wall Street bailout] plan, lobbied successfully over the weekend to be able to sell the toxic American mortgage debt owned by their American units to the Treasury, getting the same treatment as United States banks."

    The Times further reports that two of the biggest foreign banks in need of such relief are Barclays and UBS. In fact, my understanding is that UBS is more on the line here than any other foreign bank.

    Let's add this up.

    John McCain's top economics advisor, who is widely believed to be his choice for Treasury Secretary, should he win in November, is former Sen. Phil Gramm. (Indeed, just last night his spokesman refused to say Gramm wouldn't be McCain's choice for Treasury Secretary.)

    Gramm is both vice chairman of UBS's US division and a lobbyist for UBS.

    If UBS successfully lobbied over the weekend to get in on the bailout, what was Gramm's role in the lobbying?

    --Josh Marshall
  • dad · 1 year ago
    just read. unfrickenbelievable.
  • secretninja · 1 year ago
    You guys need to blog about section 8 and 10 of this bailout... Scary stuff? Are they trying to bankrupt America?

    Have a look at these gems:

    http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5311

    "Sec. 6. Maximum Amount of Authorized Purchases.

    The Secretary's authority to purchase mortgage-related assets under this Act shall be limited to $700,000,000,000 outstanding at any one time"

    "Sec. 8. Review.

    Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency."


    "Sec. 10. Increase in Statutory Limit on the Public Debt.

    Subsection (b) of section 3101 of title 31, United States Code, is amended by striking out the dollar limitation contained in such subsection and inserting in lieu thereof $11,315,000,000,000."
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    The Fed just made Goldmand Sachs and Morgan Stanley Bank Holding companies opening the Feds discount window for any type of asset.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/goldman-s...

    Paulson knows how to protect his former employer.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Tensions mount over bail-out

    The White House warned the Democrats against overplaying their hand. “This is not the time to be testing what are very unsettled and fragile markets,” said Tony Fratto, White House spokesman.

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9c89aa3e-8807-11dd-b1...

    Huh.....maybe the people need to warn the White House.....despicable morons.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Yea, they did the bumrush over the WMD, as well. I'm kind of tired of them screwing up and waiting until the last minute to make power grabs.
  • Mike_G · 1 year ago
    Someone should tote up the hundreds of billions of dollars lost due to the actions and ideology of the tapeworm Gramms of Texas, Repig crony senator turned UBS VP Phil "Deregulation now, deregulation tomorrow, deregulation forever"; and Wendy "Enron Audit Committee".
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Check out this Paulson quote:

    The Treasury secretary said the US scheme should be open to all banks with “significant operations” in the US – including foreign-owned banks, even though this is likely to be politically controversial. “The American people don’t care who owns the financial institution. If the financial institution in this country has problems it has the same impact whether it is US or foreign-owned,” he added.

    This unelected ass clown must be kidding. This is like saying no American really care if someone puts a bullet in Paulson's head. I care.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Baiuling out foreign banks is not enought. Now lets bail out bad student loans and credit card debt.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087...
  • Asterix · 1 year ago
    The Paulson bill bears close watching. If Obama votes for it as-is, or even if he abstains, that will tell me everything I need to know about him. I have no doubt that McCain will say "okie-dokie" to anything.

    But, please, not Obama. Let him show us that he'll take a firm stand on this sort of garbage.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    I still remember his cowardly FISA capitulation.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    The Republican ticket is Palin - McCain. Sarah said so...