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AMERICAblog: Payrolls drop larger than expected, 84,000 cuts in August

  • luvboxer · 1 year ago
    Choice is simple...if you want change vote for Barack...if you want to continue with four more years of the Bush policies vote McCain...
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Once you run out of "unemployment beneits", you're technically employed...

    THAT'S JUST ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE POLICY MATTERS THAT CHRIS MATTHEWS SAID WE DON'T CARE ABOUT!!!


    SHERROD BROWN COULD GET THIS FIXED IF HE'D RAISE SOME HELL!!
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Why are we still giving tax cuts to take the jobs overseas to be performed with child labor?

    How does that create jobs HERE?

    How do we then find jobs to pay for the original tax cuts?

    Is this another example of "policy matters that Americans don't care about"?
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    DOW IS DOWN BELOW WHERE IT WAS WHEN BUSH TOOK OFFICE...AND I MEAN TOOK!
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Anyone seen Sarah? I hear she has a nasty meth problem in her town.

    Bristol was home from school with a nasty case of Mono for 8 months while Mommy was preganant. She supposedly stayed with her aunt, yet had a car accident in that same time period.

    Sarah, I have a question....
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    How would Sarah go about firing a CIA Agent that won't lie for her?
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    as long as the CEOs are ok, who cares about payrolls?

    --GOP
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Sarah Barackacuda needs to find a camera. She's starting to look like the coward that Bush is.

    he missed the RNC Convention last night because of a potential storm next week.

    I think the best part of Bush ran down his Dad's leg.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Where's the Barackacuda?

    Why is McCain pirating songs that he hasn't bought?

    Brazenly arrogant. I thought Gonzo said HE is the Law when it comes to that!

    I bet he'll have it quashed.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Seems the Barackacuda is an endangered species...and we kno0w how the GOP feels about that.
  • econprofes · 1 year ago
    When we see clear evidence of what the Republican policies have done to the middle class then it becomes clear that Obama made a big mistake by going on the Fox network with Bill O’Reilly. O’Reilly is responsible for being the public relation arm of the extreme branch of the Republican Party whose policies is the reason for this economic melt down. The fact that Bill O’ Reilly is very stationary on his views and coupled with his personality flaws of being extremely rude, belligerent, border line Schizophrenia and a racist makes him an awful person and awful people make very dangerous interviewers because their personality flaws prohibits them from having any malleability on a viewpoint divergent of theirs. In last night interview Bill O”Reilly was argumentative, and at times “down right” combative. Bill O’Reilly tried to stop Obama from completing the answers to his questions by “talking over” him, raising his voice and moving to the next topic while Obama was still talking. The worse part about the bad decision the Obama camp made to go on Fox news is that Barack Obama appearance on the Fox network gives credence that the Fox station does candid, equitable and impartial (fair and balanced) journalism. The truth is the Fox news organization is partisan to the extreme elements of the Republican Party and the Fox News organization is actually an advocacy arm of the extreme portion of the Republican Party and only Jeb Clampett, Elly Mae, the rest of the hillbillies (except Granny, she has to much spunk to be a Republican), Militia men/women and the KKK members watch Fox news. When Barack appears on Fox it broadens Fox viewership. People like me and other independents and rationally thinking people tune in. This means Obama is helping the very news organization that is against just about everything he is advocating. You will never see John McCain on Keith Olbermann’s show for that very reason. I really hope Obama does not believe since he is a gifted orator he can some how woe them by showing the people who are regular viewers of Fox News how the large corporations get them to vote every year against their self interest. The reason this is a lost cause is because regular viewer of Fox must be deficient in reasoning skills or extremely wealthy who may benefit financially by the depreciation and exploitation of the middle class. People like that will never vote for Barack Obama so why would he risk being tripped up or an answer he gives being taken out of context. The ratio of potential benefit to potential detriment of Barack Obama appearing on Fox news is a number that is very close to zero, which means Barack Obama should not do this.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Bullshit. If O'reilly had buried him then FOX would be running it nonstop. Obama disarmed him.....bigtime.

    Hey, you seen Sarah?
  • econprofes · 1 year ago
    Obama held his own but he did not disarm Bill be any stretch of the imagination. Obama is on very dangerous ground.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Whatever. Bill was going to attempt to bury Obama. The peroblem is that Obama can tell the same story twice. He doesn't tell one story in Anchorage and another in Minneapolis.

    Where's the Barackacuda?
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    she's undergoing VP training... something tells me its something like what they did to Malcomb McDowell in A Clockwork Orange.

    she'll wind up getting sick whenever someone forces her to talk about Muslims, brown skinned people, the economy... etc.

    their base will appreciate that.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Maybe she's wondering if McCain is going to make her famous. He said he'd expose the "earmark Queens".

    I'm betting it's just another lie. We'll see.
  • econprofes · 1 year ago
    This does not explain the rationale of appearing on a news organization that has no credibility and whose viewers will never vote for you.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    its impossible to disarm bill without a loofah and a shower.

    as long as Obama came across as intelligent, he reached an audience that have only heard rehashed republican talking points about him. that's a good thing.
  • econprofes · 1 year ago
    Jeb Clampett, Elly Mae,and the rest of the hillbillies are still going to vote against their own interest and vote Republican no matter what Obama says which means this is a bad risk on Obama's part.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    They won't vote for him because he's black. That's no secret.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    The Barackacuda needs to take a chance on "slipping up" in front of a camera!
  • econprofes · 1 year ago
    I'm trying to understand your logic? Please explain yourself.
  • Mark in Florida · 1 year ago
    Obama did not make a big mistake, it was brilliant. Obama came off as really having a tight grasp on foriegn policy, and successfully blunted some of his fox critics. He even charmed old Billo for a minute. Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer....it's smart politcs.

    You have to understand most of these low information voters, ONLY watch fox. They are fed a steady diet of crap and cannot think for themselves.

    It was a brilliant move. Truly.
  • econprofes · 1 year ago
    We have to answer the question why can't these people think for themselves. The answer is not because they have a lack of information. The only explanation of someone who is middle class or poor and is also a regular viewer of Fox News is because they are deficient in reasoning skills and people who lack reasoning skills have no cerebral malleability which means nothing you say will ever change their mind. So based on your own assessment of Fox News viewers your conclusion of Obama’s decision to go on Fox News as something of a benefit is flawed.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Support foreclosure: Vote Republican!
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    or, to be more explicit...

    support the anal rape of 299,000,000 people, vote republican.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    They think that blood is a lubricant. Must be an inside oil joke.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    Chris... you've got to remember that the economy IS working for you... IF you're in that top %1 of all earners.

    also referred to once by chimpy as his "base".

    they didn't talk about the economy because they didn't want to piss off the little people... umm... what are they called? Oh yeah! voters.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Bad News:

    GOP Preacher says Todd Palin is going to Hell:

    http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/04/todd-palin-...

    He doesn't mince words either.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    who knew the bible was written by a crooked accountant!

    there seem to be two sets of books, one for them and one for everyone not a part of the group.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Yeah, one says the Love of Money is the root of all Evil.

    The other says Iran, Iraq and North Korea are the very axis of Evil.


    Wonder why that is? You don't think it's because these preachers have their congregation believing that the way to heaven is to vote against abortion...even though the Republicans never once voted to end abortion when they held the House and Senate for 12 years.....do ya?
  • Sage24 · 1 year ago
    Despite all this, there are dumb people who want to keep voting for these Republican policies. This is what putting party ahead of the country means.
    What a dumb nation this is...people are suffering without jobs, and you still keep voting for those very policies that caused people hardship. It seems these voters want to suffer these self inflicted wounds, over and over again.

    Question: Why do we need a VP who calls herself a PIT BULL and is also called a BARRACUDA, when we have a CHIMP and a SHARK presently in the WH, who has messed this country, big time?
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    the nation is filled with Harrison Bergernon's... every time they have a thought, some loud noise distracts them and they forget it.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    ........or in Palin's case: "Oh look at the new shiny thing!".
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    McCain is running out of $$$$$$. Notice the trolls are mising?
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Dear Sara (wherever you are),

    Would you please comment on this:

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07...
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    USA TODAY SAYS JOB LOSSES AREN'T A PROBLEM!!!!

    http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=htt...


    Maybe I read it wrong.
  • Ed in Cleveland · 1 year ago
    One of the main reasons for the recent increase in unemployment is the recent minimum wage increases.Most businesses can't afford to pay their employees ,and,cover their overhead costs to stay in business.The result is that people have to be laid off or fired.Some businesses are even forced to close down completely.Democrats approved these minimum wage increases not Republicans.So how can you blame President Bush and the rest of the Republicans for the unemployment increase?
  • Steve_in_CNJ · 1 year ago
    did you just pull that out of your ass?
  • Ed in Cleveland · 1 year ago
    No, I didn't pull it out of my ass. I have heard that from a few business owners that I know.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Yeah? That corrupt shithole of a town has been falling fast for 30 years. All of a sudden it's because minimum wage went up a little bit?

    Hate to say it, but you've got bigger problems in Cleveland. Want proof? Stephanie Tubbs-Jones was head of the House Ethics Committee.....God reat her sould I mean no disrespect.

    However, I bet the next Committee won't be from Cleveland.

    Why are the taxpayers being forced to pay for that new Medical Mart? Is it going to be a museum?

    If it weren't for Cleveland Metro Hospital, there wouldn't be a Cleveland!
  • Steve_in_CNJ · 1 year ago
    the federal minimum wage doesn't affect the Northeast, rust belt (including Ohio), much of the Midwest, Florida, Colorado, Arizona, Nevada or the Pacific states because their laws are stricter. more than 40% of the house republicans voted for the latest increase, which was signed into law by george bush.

    if you have evidence that the $7/hr minimum wage is causing layoffs (as opposed to other factors like shrinking credit, transportation costs, health care costs, consumer spending) i'm sure we'd all like to see it.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    in Cleveland?

    that ALONE explains it.

    minimum wage has nothing to do with companies like HP, GM, Ford etc... laying off workers.

    the starting wage at any of those places is somewhere around 17/hr (averaging)... thats what, 6.75 MORE than minimum wage?

    the company owners you're talking to can't sell products because no one's buying them... because LARGER industries are closing down or moving... leaving people unemployed and unable to buy products from hometown companies.

    trickle-down economics was bad in the reagan years... it was denounced, rightly so... then kkkarl rove and co renamed it for the chimp years. same economics, same economy.

    and you're blaming this on minimum wage?

    I rightly guessed you were an idiot.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Yeah, you're right. Making a company pay .05% of their tax cuts back to the employees is absolute bullshit.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    What???

    you've got to be kidding... Burger King isn't firing people.
    where else do people actually get pain minimum wage?

    are you an idiot or was this a snarky comment and you forgot the /snark?
  • Ed in Cleveland · 1 year ago
    Burger King may not fire people but they make up for the wage increase by raising the price of your hamburger.I wasn't trying to be snarky.
    Bob Frantz a conservative talk show host on Cleveland radio just spent an hour discussing how the minimum wage increase is hurting business.For example,here is a link to a local kid's amusement park. If you read the fine print under the prices it
    says that prices have had to be drastically increased due to the recent minimum wage increase.

    http://www.memphiskiddiepark.com/tickets.htm
  • woodroad34 · 1 year ago
    Remember when Bush, et al lost all those jobs during his first term and then reimagined hamburg flippers as manufacturing jobs to cook the numbers on employment losses/gains? That kind of magical thinking that is akin to Reagan's ketchup-is-a-vegetable meme. Did we ever actually recover from that mess? Wasn't there supposed to be one million new jobs per month or something like that in Drunk Boy's thinking? And now here we are going down for the third count and John McBush hasn't got a clue, either.
  • ron071 · 1 year ago
    ED in Republican Heaven: That's right , the minimum wage is responsible for the recession. Sweet Dreams Ed.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Left-Wing media finds another topic that McCain and Palin won't discuss:

    http://www.iwar.org.uk/sigint/resources/nationa...

    Wonder why?
  • AdmNaismith · 1 year ago
    I heard that on the news this morning and realized we have not had an unemployment rate much over 5% in decades. And of course, the 6.1% never counts the number of people unemployed so long they are no longer counted (6 mo+).
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Is McCain going to make the "Earmark Queen" famous like he said? Maybe it only applied to Democrats.

    I'm betting on the latter.
  • Mark in Florida · 1 year ago
    Sorry, off topic:

    VOTE THUMBS DOWN ON MCNUTTIE'S SPEECH.

    http://www.cnn.com/
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Mark,

    Check this one out...then pass it around:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904/?polls=is_...
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    I felt so sorry for McCain when he ripped Obama for not stealing our money to hide on "campaign expenses".

    Bless his heart. He tried though.
  • marijo · 1 year ago
    I was just on the CNN website, and it is so telling to me that on the morning following what should well have been the night of his life, John McCain is relegated to the sidebar of the website, while the large headline describes a larger than anticipated job loss. No matter how they try to spin this, the economy is tanking, Americans know it, and they know who did it!
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Whatever happened to those 3 Energy Reform Bills that Tom deLay managed to hold the votes open for?

    I remember the Republicans touting them as the only means to get gas prices down.

    Turns out it was a maneuver to funnel money to the oil companies that could then legally turn around and give it back to the GOP to run their candidates for office.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Sarah might have to take Tums for heartburn.......again.

    Good commercial.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    McCain/Palin ticket is just want you want if you enjoyed the Schiavo Fiasco.


    More of the same.
  • BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago
    Did McCain mention this lady last night?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10249...

    Maybe one of the preachers will on Sunday.
  • Steve_in_CNJ · 1 year ago
    ‘My marriage ended because John McCain didn’t want to be 40, he wanted to be 25. You know that happens...it just does.’ -- the original mrs. mccain
  • ron071 · 1 year ago
    Steve: Nothing has changed for McSame. Now he doesn"t want to be 72. Is the Republican ticket a sham? Where is the " missing " lobbyist gal-pal Vickie Iseman? Hide it all AND USE THE FLAG TO COVER EVERYTHING.
  • ron071 · 1 year ago
    STOP THE "WHINING " A mental recession is just in your mind. STOP WHINING!

    MORE OF THE SAME FOR SURE WITH McCAIN! COUNT ON IT-STOP WHINING!11Just STOP WHINING!!!
  • Asterix · 1 year ago
    I don't like Obama's or McCain's ideas for the economy. Both are chanting "tax cut" as devoted disciples of the Chicago School. In the long run, Reaganomics didn't work and I really doubt that either party has the answer.

    Our economic expansion has been largely funded by taking on debt, both in the government as well as on the part of the consumer.

    This one isn't going to be easy to fix--and tax cuts certainly won't fix it.
  • econprofes · 1 year ago
    That is not completely true. It is true that a tax break for the wealthy will not help the economy because the wealthy have a propensity to save and not consume (spend) the increase in disposable income (income - taxes) because of less taxes. However; a tax cut for the middle class will be an economic stimulus because the middle class has a propensity to consume (spend) their increase in disposable income will have a multiplier affect (for every dollar the government reduces on the middle class the economy would grow by a number greater than a dollar) on the economy. Let’s not forget that President Clinton inherited an economy very similar to what we have today, a depressed economy with high unemployment and a default in a major financial sector (Savings and Loan) that was causing adverse ripples throughout the financial sector so severe that we had a bail out of the Saving and Loans by the Federal government. This is what Robert Rubin (Clinton Treasury Secretary and a Republican, alright he was a moderate Republican and has since become a democrat) inherited.

    Robert Rubin solution had two major parts, the first part was give tax cuts to the middle class for the reason I already gave. The other significant reason of the economic boom under President Clinton was the immergence of a new technological industry which was the internet. The Clinton administration fostered the growth of this industry by enacting the Telecommunication act which tore down the barriers that would prohibit telephone companies, media business etc... from also having an internet business. This allowed AT&T, MSN, Sprint to get in the internet business. This caused a boom in the internet business and from this came new mega companies like AOL, CISCO, INTEL which led to residual industries like fiber optics becoming the largest sales in Corning glassware. This created millions of jobs in a very short period of time which was the catalyst to the economic boom of the 1990’s. Barack Obama has that same economic model. He will start with a cut in taxes for the middle income bracket of Americans and his new technological industry will be new energy sources. The Federal Government would help foster the “Green Revolution”. This has the potential of being even larger than the internet and creating 10 times the jobs that the internet produced. This economic model could potentially have this country out of having an annual fiscal deficit to an annual surplus by the end of Senator Obama’s first term. It will also have residual affects like reducing the treat of terrorism because the Saudi’s will not have US money to send to the terrorist groups that they sponsor. When the Saudi’s loose 40 billions dollars a year in oil revenue forever, they will no money to give to terrorist. Unlike the internet revolution some side benefits will be clean air, stopping global warming, the Polar Bears getting their habitat back and the list goes on.
  • Asterix · 1 year ago
    Do you, or either party have any hard numbers to back up the approach in question?

    Without hard data to analyze, one can argue until the sun explodes without getting anywhere.

    As far as proven energy sources, nukes and coal are solidly grounded in existing technology. Pushing R&D money at a problem with the assurance that someone, somehow will come up with a solution seems to be more in the province of hope and wishing.

    I'm just not convinced that the hole we've dug for ourselves is fillable by anyone.