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AMERICAblog: Poll: Confidence in stimulus plan ebbs

  • Roy · 5 months ago
    Obama my man, let me clue you in on an elementary idea.

    If you would have passed an executive to put a stop to DADT and put pressure on Congress to start working on DOMA the rePigs would have shifted gears, gotten off the economy and started attacking you for blasphemy.

    By trying to be bipartisan you cleared the roadblocks for your political enemies. Good job.
  • nicho · 5 months ago
    We are at a point in our nation's history where we need bold, dramatic action, as we got from FDR. Obama is trying to play safe, nibble around the edges, and work within the paradigm that created our problems.

    He is not FDR -- He is Herbert Hoover. We need an FDR. Obama was the best of a very bad lot. Or, more precisely, he was the "least worst candidate."
  • BrooklynRider · 5 months ago
    Listen, don't give trillions to a bailout of corporate America and a trillion to a "stimulus package" and a trillion to fund wars and then tell the American People that government run Healthcare is too expensive or that Social Security is insolvent. Stop blaming this on the GOP. Congress is incredibly out of touch with Americans and Obama is not "boldly" leading us anywhere. His time to operate with the mandate of the people is trickling away. Democrats promised action - and we are getting NOTHING. Their negotiations and actions are insular. They have no clue what Americans are facing. 340,000 jobs were lost in NYC alone. C'mon people.
  • tlsintx · 5 months ago
    i can kind of see how the Obama admin. wouldn't want to be seen as 'doing things' as bushco did...i hated the way bushco used fox and put out talking points that were followed by all the GOPers every day of the world...maybe it's up to us to figure out how to help the administration without it being so obvious...or something. i do not know.
  • Butch1 · 5 months ago
    The man and his administration do not want our help.
  • ezpz · 5 months ago
    I don't think it's so much 'going it alone' as it is trying too hard to make it bipartisan and watering it down with all kinds of concessions in the process.

    Real progressives like Paul Krugman warned that it was too watered down to have a significant effect.

    Too bad this admin doesn't listen to the likes of Krugman, but instead relies on the same recycled hacks who played a key role in bringing down the economy in the first place.
  • Butch1 · 5 months ago
    Obama's biggest mistake is that he can not stay the course on any piece of legislation without saying that he "hasn't ruled out, compromise, or in the health care bill that he could sign off on a bill that didn't have a national health care option." How does one expect his followers to back him at all when he isn't even sure what he would fight for?!! This country wants universal health care and this thick headed visionary won't listen. He used the people on the internet to support his running for president, now, he doesn't want to hear from them until he needs them again for his next run. I am not the least bit impressed with his "so-called intelligence" if he is going to be this mamby-pamby on sticking to what he believes.
  • BrooklynRider · 5 months ago
    I do think that the Financial Bailout was nothing more than a raid on the treasury by a cabal of criminals. As for the Stimulus, it is non-existent. It is geared toward shovel-ready construction projects. Basically, it funds construction jobs. I work in the architecture field and the sector has collapsed - completely. You will find a handful of firms getting by on existing contracts, but you won't find "new" work out there. The stimulus does nothing for white collar workers, although it does provide "training" for financial sector employees who are casualties of the great American rip-off. Sorry, I'm an independent voter and I think the stimulus was shoved through Congress in a way that has no differences from how Bush & Co. rammed bills through without debate or even a good read-through. Despicable.
  • caphillprof · 5 months ago
    As I recall, Obama had planned to run for President but not so soon. However, his polling and/or brain trust told him in 2007 that the stars had alligned for a 2008 run. And they were right and he won. But now it has become clear, that though he loves acting like the President, he isn't at all comfortable being the President.

    My friends are telling me that he is really really in his heart of hearts a Republican. That he is conservative and more interested in being liked that making changes.

    The odd thing about today's email (or was it yesterday) from Obama asking the faithful to join him for whatever is that the whatever is always so murky, so tentative, so . . . please support me in whatever it is that I might end of doing, though I can't tell you now and I may not even know then until I've actually done whatever.

    Reforming the Wall Street banks should have been easy as we'd already done it for decades before Clinton/Bush undid the New Deal. He couldn't.

    Clearly there will be no true reformation of the nation's health care system without a public option. He cannot do that.

    Vast majorities of every category including Republicans, conservatives and church goes support the repeal of DADT. But somehow, that too is impossible for this President.
  • Steve_in_CNJ · 5 months ago
    it's pretty clear at least that mr. obama is a religious conservative.
  • Ferdiad · 5 months ago
    Everyone that actually has to look at a budget and figure out how to pay for things is "in their heart of hearts a Republican." Example - name me one Democratic controlled City Council in America that is talking about raising taxes right now?
  • kevinbgoode · 5 months ago
    It is bad enough that the media breathlessly awaits to glowingly report every crazy thing the GOP utters, even though the party represents only 20 percent of Americans. But when the President of the United States, representing the MAJORITY party, seems to pay more attention to the knuckledraggers than the people who voted for his party, there is something terribly wrong.

    Apparently this Administration, like the media, doesn't believe 80% of the American people actually exist.
  • NMRon · 5 months ago
    As someone who works for a federal agency, I'd like to note that the lack of significant impact by the stimulus package might be due to the fact that stimulus funding didn't make it out of OMB until a little over 30 days ago. Agencies have been madly putting out requests for proposals only in the past couple of weeks. Now, potential contractors have up to 30 days to respond, then another 30 days to negotiate etc, etc until award, whereupon it's another 30-60 days for the contractor to put someone in the field. Thirty plus years of Rethug dogma (antipathy at best, hostility at worst) have thoroughly permeated the executive branch, making it all but impossible to rapidly execute any governmental action. Look for impacts to employment and personal spending not to start until late August and not really measurable until October or November. That's unless, of course, the Vice President has a significant financial investment in the company receiving the contract.
  • treebark · 5 months ago
    From what I see now "the left" is starting to wake up to the fact that Obama is in the pocket of big business and he will definitely be a one term failure as president. Good riddance.
  • Roy · 5 months ago
    I agree. Whatever Obama is, he is not a leader.
  • dula · 5 months ago
    When you put the Clinton White House in charge again, it is not CHANGE. Can we start a viable Third Party now?
  • Mum48 · 5 months ago
    Of course, confidence in the stimulus plan ebbed. Everything wasn't fixed in a New York minute. You mean we can't get out of a mess that took nearly 30 years to create in just a few months? What's wrong? Didn't we elect a miracle worker? Shouldn't he just wave his magic wand and get us back to the place we thought we were at during the Clinton years, when we repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, passed the DOM Act, signed NAFTA, moved forward with Don't Ask Don't Tell and welfare "reform," and many other abominations?

    How quickly we have forgotten all of the horrible things that have happened to this country since Reagan took the oath of office in January of 1981. And while Clinton's eight years may have marked prosperity for many of us, there were very few long-term advances on most fronts, and it turns out that even the prosperity was just a shell-game or a hall of mirrors. And then, of course, the unspeakably horrid eight years of rule by Cheney and Addington and Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld and Feith and their corporate cronies, aka the Bush administration. They brought us torture, an illegal war, the dismantling of the Bill of Rights, domestic spying, environmental degradation, corporate hegemony, executive branch aggrandizement, ignominy on the international stage, bankruptcy, the collapse of our financial system, etc., etc., etc., etc.

    As a nation, history has never been our best subject. And patience has never been a virtue that we have cultivated, unless you care to see our ability to close our eyes to and ignore what is happening around us as patience. (It's not; it's simply willed ignorance.) We are good at that.

    There's a lot of work to do, and it takes an educated and active citizenry to do its share. There are letters to write, and emails to post, and phone calls to make, and rallies and meetings and protests to attend. And I'm getting truly truly tired of those who complain and sit on the sidelines, wondering why President Obama has not solved all of the country's problems in his first five months. He said he would need our help. So let's do it.
  • Ferdiad · 5 months ago
    There is another reason confidence is ebbing - because the plan isn't working. It was stuffed with pet projects and "non-stimulous" related pork. Most projections show that the stimulous will be less than 70% spent by the END of 2010. Thus far, there has only been 3% allocated for infrastructure. People know when they have been had and that is what is going on here.