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Makes it look and sound like they're buying passage, and we're buying rejection. It's a bad way to frame the process, don'tcha think? Of course it's even worse in that it's mostly true---our votes may be mostly pro-forma, while the real action takes place in the exchanges of $$$$....... Whatta sad commentary on the state of modern politics...
Thank you!!
We will never lose same-sex marriage in Massachusetts. And one day there will be someone from here challenging the federal government for full faith and credit with respect to Social Security Survivor Benefits, and I have faith that WE WILL WIN at the Supreme Court level.
We need ads that say clearly that if you vote YES on 8 you are voting YES on HATE.
No on 8!
Geez, it's such a catchy phrase you would think they would have adopted that now in their ads.
Background: the First Brigade of the Third Infantry Division, three to four thousand soldiers, has been deployed in the United States as of October 1. Their stated mission is the form of crowd control they practiced in Iraq, subduing "unruly individuals," and the management of a national emergency. I am in Seattle and heard from the brother of one of the soldiers that they are engaged in exercises now. Amy Goodman reported that an Army spokesperson confirmed that they will have access to lethal and non lethal crowd control technologies and tanks.
George Bush struck down Posse Comitatus, thus making it legal for military to patrol the U.S. He has also legally established that in the "War on Terror," the U.S. is at war around the globe and thus the whole world is a battlefield. Thus the U.S. is also a battlefield.
He also led change to the 1807 Insurrection Act to give him far broader powers in the event of a loosely defined "insurrection" or many other "conditions" he has the power to identify. The Constitution allows the suspension of habeas corpus -- habeas corpus prevents us from being seized by the state and held without trial -- in the event of an "insurrection." With his own army force now, his power to call a group of protesters or angry voters "insurgents" staging an "insurrection" is strengthened.
all this money supporting prop 8 is coming from OUTSIDE CALIFORNIA!
that's it... if this passes, I'm going straight-bashing in the states the contributions came from.
they're known as 'fundies'... they're really just well funded domestic terrorists.
"bow to our demands or we'll crush you." Is there any difference between their beliefs and that of Al Quaida? different religions is all.
so much for democracy.
So, to answer your question...because it is the right thing to do to save some modicum of equality for all of us.
Please donate and then email the No On 8 campaign telling to expose the Mormon Church's involvement.
If you don't have money, you can donate time or calls friends and family in California. But "talk to the hand"? Come on, it takes money to put ads on TV and that's the only way most of these California props can be defeated.
The No on 8 folks need to put out some eye-catching, hard-hitting ads that say "Do Not Write Discrimination Into the Constitution". I would also like to see Ellen make this a BIG issue on her show. If she could break down in tears over a dog, she can break down in tears over this.
I want to have the right to be married when I meet "the one".
I just emailed ALL my friends/family this morning with the same information.
No on 8 has to come back hitting.
- NO on hate!
- NO on 8!
As a Californian I am putting my phoning efforts here and Neveda for Obama (CA is overwhelmingly going for Obama).
Even though these new polls are worrisome, I still believe we have a chance at defeating this hateful proposition.
It isn't just those affected by the proposition -- it's every single American. Encourage your friends, even though far from California, to donate to the cause -- if they can't do $50 or more, donate $5 or $10 or $1 -- this issue is too important to allow for failure.
This April when you sit down to do you CA State Income Taxes caculate the total cost per taxpayer of all the Marriage/family courts, & services along with the state/ city costs of processing Marriage licenses etc. then WITHHOLD that amount from your CA Income Taxes.
If we are not going have the rights of full citizens of Calfornia , fine. But then CA cannot tax us as full citizens either.
Also the next time you get a summons for Jury Duty send a nice note back saying "Sorry, I dont have to particiapte in Jury Duty ever again, since the people of CA have clearly said the courts do not matter and they get to pick what rights I have compared as my fellow citizens, then I get to pick which responsibilites I have .
The BASIS for American Independence was the citizens of the 13 colonies being taxed as full subjects of the British Crown but not having the full RIGHTS as subjects . THIS IS NO DIFFERENT. If I am to be told that I am a 2nd class citizen then I REFUSE to pay first class taxes. It's time for homphobes to put their money where there mouths are.
Anne
The Newsom bashing is silly. This is not his fault.
your bashing newsom for an out-of-context comment in _2004_ is just as bad as the ad using it, john.
A pox on you and all your wives! ;-)
The Newsom ad says near the end, (and I'm paraphrasing) "If Prop 8 is defeated, gay marriage will be taught in schools." The first time I heard it, I laughed because it's so ridiculous. But, apparently people believe that garbage and it is disappointing/surprising to me that polls have flipped.
I donated. Thanks for the tip, John.
http://www.kofc.org/un/eb/en/news/releases/deta...
I still can't believe we have so many stone-age Californians.
Only electronic vote-flipping can pass that piece of shit.
But I'm sure Diebold (or similar) are working on it.
What does that even mean?
Tolerance should only be voluntary?
I'm straight, but this kind of fascist bullshit pisses me off to no end.
money the fundies are bringing in. Also, the organizations fighting this need to be a
lot more aggressive.
As far as Sully and John, they were never particularly supportive of the fight for marriage equality a few years ago. It's convenient now I guess.
Oh, and my partner and I are marrying this weekend. please help keep our marriage legal after Nov 4.
IT
You can help too!
John, don't talk trash about our next governor (FSM forbid--he's not qualified to be mayor).
The moral of the story for politicians is: avoid mocking your opposition. It may come back to haunt you and others.
It's unjust to have to beg for the right to marry, but the opportunity to do so is more than my parents had. I'm a son of Taiwanese immigrants who grew up under Chiang Kai-Shek's dictatorship. People who said the wrong things disappeared--political murder was _normal_.
David Liao
PhD Candidate--yes, I am on a Graduate Student's income
Department of Physics
Princeton University, Princeton, NJ