You Know it Maggie. Lots of Obama signs up this way.
HereinDC
· 1 year ago
I specifically remember hearing 20 point lead is what they were saying months ago...I specifically remember hearing 20 point lead for Clinton.
Now, I hear the pundits saying that 12-15 points is what they "were" saying months ago.
Seems to me that the pundits are TRYING to make it look like that Clinton did have that much of a lead "months" ago.
Seems they are trying to make is not souknd
maggiePA08
· 1 year ago
S- perhaps you cant feel it all the way over there, but here in PA we are fired up and ready to go!
Michal
· 1 year ago
While the polls may be tightening, the truth is of course that Hillary will still this one, probably by a comfortable margin. Penn. is a machine state and she has the entire State Democratic Party and mayors of the big cities behind her (save for Casey). I was watching MSNBC, and Chuck Todd said you have to add 3-4% to Hillary's total because of this factor. Basically, no way Obama can win, but there's a sliver of hope that we can keep this below a 10 point margin, which is good.
maggiePA08
· 1 year ago
Michal, my sense of those endorsements is that they will do more harm to the reputations of Rendell and Nutter than they will to help Hillary. Just hope President Obama wont hold it against our state!
firebrand
· 1 year ago
I swa Rendell on meet the press......he's clearly a bullshit artist .
Sage24
· 1 year ago
Barack Obama has done very well, and it is amazing how he closes the big gap, Clinton usually holds. Texas was a good example of this.
Now if only a miracle would happens and he beats her in PA, we don't have to put up with all this nastiness, which knowing the Clintons will be going on and on....
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Sort of related:
Lots of troops seem to like Obama (some for Hillary too), according to this ABC report.
But the best part is the comments. Bunch of Wingnuts wetting their diapers over the military supporting "socialists."
There are so many ways to spin this. How's this one? Pennsylvania Democrats catch up to mainstream Democrats!
PA-D
· 1 year ago
As one of those Pennsylvania Democrats the proper spin would be Thank You Floridians, for fucking up at least two of the three Presidential elections since 2000.
Indigo
· 1 year ago
Responding to PA-D, your vocabulary choices suggest an issue that is best resolved with soap and water.
PA-D
· 1 year ago
Yes, I'm sure you had to clutch your pearls. You've seen worse and you know it. You've used worse and you know it. Better go to Sam's or Publix and get a community-sized pack of soap. You'll need it around here. Go to the gay Publix. It's almost cruising time. Stay away from Hanks on the way home, unless white pearls would go with your blouse. Ask for ChooChoo.
We have Hershey Park. Bring your money gurlfriend.
Dianne_in_DC
· 1 year ago
I also watched Chuck todd on hardball last night, and at the time I found it odd. Pennsylvania is a machine state. WTF? Aren't individuals voting there? I can see that the machine influences the vote, but it is not The Vote.
jr
· 1 year ago
Dear PA voters, Vote for Obama so we can stop Mccombover from putting anti-choice and anti-labor judges on the bench
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
If Obama gets in, which I think he will, I will write to him that he should consider adding younger people to the bench, especially the SCOTUS, to balance out what will probably be the lengthy terms of right-wing Bush appointees like Roberts and Alito. No old guys who can die on us and then be replaced by a future Republican president.
ZennButtKicker (tlhwraith)
· 1 year ago
Pretty typical pattern, when the campaigning actually starts in earnest, whatever margins Clinton had usually evaporate into the single digits. I am still convinced that had it not been for that NAFTA SNAFU, Obama could have won the TX primary and Ohio wouldn't have been much closer. If nothing else this is one of the most compelling reasons why FL shouldn't count as is, in no way does it represent the results of an actual primary campaign. MI, that's a nightmare that there's no real way of making right without holding another primary.
What amazes me is how so few of the Clinton people see the pattern. The main reason IMO Sen Clinton wins states at all is because Sen Obama doesn't have enough time to overcome the built in brand-loyalty the Clinton name carries.
I guess the best take on this, as it has been pointed out, is that Obama doesn't really have to win PA, just keep the gap in single digits. If he manages to keep it under 10 points, IMO that's huge. However, it seems to be imperative not to let the media change the spin like they did in TX. Obama closed a nearly 20 point gap with Clinton and by the time the night of the primary there were pundits saying that him not winning was a "blow" to his campaign. Only in bizarro world I guess.
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
Obama would have won the popular vote in TX, which I assume is what you are talking about because he really did win TX, if 114,000 Republicans inspired by Rush Limbaugh didn't cross over just for the purpose of making Clinton, the one perceived as the easier candidate to beat, McCain's opponent in the Fall.
maggiePA08
· 1 year ago
ZBK, So glad you're back. Of all the commenters who have gone missing since Disqus, I think I missed you most of all!
Mike_H
· 1 year ago
Indeed, if Obama can lose by under 10 points, that will be a big blow to the slim thread of a chance that Clinton is hanging her campaign on. I think the pundits will still try to spin it as a victory, but honestly, she would really have to think long and hard about a graceful exit strategy and re-building her good name within the party.
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
For any fellow Oregonians out there, the first poll I've seen on Oregon shows Obama with a 10 point lead overall, 8 point lead in the Tri-County area and 16 points for the rest of the state. Obama has a 30 point lead among men, and Clinton a 7 point lead among women. As everywhere else, she is strongest in the 65 group ( (: )*, and Obama leads in just about everything else.* That's supposed to be a frown, but I don't know if I did it correctly.
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows—for the third time in four days--Barack Obama with a double digit lead in the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination. Obama now attracts 51% of the vote while Hillary Clinton earns 40%. That’s the lowest total ever recorded for Clinton since the contest became a two-person race. http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/poli...
Anonymiss
· 1 year ago
I'm a white, 48 year old, woman...who lives in NC....and I'm voting Obama. It's not that I'm overwhelmed by him (I'm not), or think that he has something special or different to offer (he doesn't), but rather, it's because I just can't stomach voting for Hillary. I honestly think I'd throw up if I had to vote affirmatively for her....And I used to really like her, defend her, support her. But she lost me on the Iraq war vote, and then she really, really lost me by the way she's conducted this campaign, both in terms of sheer ineptitude and meanness. Sorry, galpal, it's over.
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
When he's within 3 points, expect her to turn on the waterworks, to show her "human" side, just like NH. It worked before, and it's all she's got left.
Kefa
· 1 year ago
SUSA.....Clinton up by 19 points
Mikki --SE Pennsylvania
· 1 year ago
Pennsylvanians VOTE FOR OBAMA!
Don't listen to our wrongheaded governor
Older White Male Independent!
Clinton Supporter
· 1 year ago
I'm voting for Clinton, regardless of whether she's on the ballot or not. I know a lot of Clinton supporter who feel the same way. If it's not Clinton, then the only other choice would be Nader. I refuse to put that Sexist, Racist in the White House
Smarmy
· 1 year ago
Hillary will take a 2 point lead as a 'blowout'. She's given to exaggerations of all kinds. What's wrong with PA anyway? Is there no common sense in the whole state?
Your_Uncle_Bastard
· 1 year ago
My partner's best friend manages one of the field offices for Peter D. Hart Research - boy did he have some fun stories to share over the weekend with us, before this became public knowledge. :-)
Turns out the first Clinton project they're working on is fairly well-balanced until about the last 4 questions, at which time it becomes a TOTAL PUSH-POLL.
I know, you're all dying of surprise, right? *rolls eyes* /snark
All Comments
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/111-0408...
Now, I hear the pundits saying that 12-15 points is what they "were" saying months ago.
Seems to me that the pundits are TRYING to make it look like that Clinton did have that much of a lead "months" ago.
Seems they are trying to make is not souknd
Now if only a miracle would happens and he beats her in PA, we don't have to put up with all this nastiness, which knowing the Clintons will be going on and on....
Lots of troops seem to like Obama (some for Hillary too), according to this ABC report.
But the best part is the comments. Bunch of Wingnuts wetting their diapers over the military supporting "socialists."
LOL
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/comments?type=story&id...
We have Hershey Park. Bring your money gurlfriend.
Vote for Obama so we can stop Mccombover from putting anti-choice and anti-labor judges on the bench
What amazes me is how so few of the Clinton people see the pattern. The main reason IMO Sen Clinton wins states at all is because Sen Obama doesn't have enough time to overcome the built in brand-loyalty the Clinton name carries.
I guess the best take on this, as it has been pointed out, is that Obama doesn't really have to win PA, just keep the gap in single digits. If he manages to keep it under 10 points, IMO that's huge. However, it seems to be imperative not to let the media change the spin like they did in TX. Obama closed a nearly 20 point gap with Clinton and by the time the night of the primary there were pundits saying that him not winning was a "blow" to his campaign. Only in bizarro world I guess.
So glad you're back. Of all the commenters who have gone missing since Disqus, I think I missed you most of all!
take a look and this ad
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Oba...
full of COLORS
FAMILY RAINBOW COALITION
LOL
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/poli...
Don't listen to our wrongheaded governor
Older White Male Independent!
Turns out the first Clinton project they're working on is fairly well-balanced until about the last 4 questions, at which time it becomes a TOTAL PUSH-POLL.
I know, you're all dying of surprise, right? *rolls eyes* /snark