DISQUS

AMERICAblog: Racism in America is alive and well in 2008

  • gwpriester · 1 year ago
    The Field Negro Blog http://www.field-negro.blogspot.com/ reports on a lot of this stuff. Including a T-Shirt with a black person running from a lynch mob and the text, Run Obama Run.

    Fear and ignorance are a terrible combination.
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    and add to that meanness and a six pack of Bud, and you have a climate for trouble
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    Here is what we can expect from our American hero John McCain.

    But last week, McCain's subsequent effort to redo the tanker deal was dealt a setback. Government auditors ruled that the Air Force made "significant errors" when it rebid the contract and awarded the $35 billion project to Boeing's chief rival, partners European Aeronautic Defense and Space Co. (or EADS) and Northrop Grumman. It's likely the Air Force will have to redo the bid yet again, which analysts say will delay the replacement of the fleet's 1950s-era refueling tankers. The auditors' ruling has also cast light on an overlooked aspect of McCain's crusade: five of his campaign's top advisers and fund-raisers—including Tom Loeffler, who resigned last month as his finance co-chairman, and Susan Nelson, his finance director—were registered lobbyists for EADS.

    Newsweek has this great article about McCains efforts to interfere in the process of purchasing these tankers from Europe.

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/142658

    5 of his top advisors lobbied for the European consortium.

    Critics, including some at the Pentagon, cite in particular two tough letters McCain wrote to Deputy Secretary of Defense Gordon England in 2006 and another to Robert Gates, just prior to his confirmation as Defense secretary. In the first letter, dated Sept. 8, 2006, McCain wrote of hearing from "third parties" that the Air Force was about to redo the tanker competition by factoring in European government subsidies to EADS—a condition that could have seriously hurt the EADS bid. McCain urged that the Pentagon drop the subsidy factor and posed a series of technical questions about the Air Force's process. "He was trying to jam us and bully us to make sure there was competition by giving EADS an advantage," said one senior Pentagon official, who asked for anonymity when discussing a politically sensitive matter. The assumption within the Pentagon, the official added, was that McCain's letters were drafted by EADS lobbyists. "There was no one else that would have had that level of detail," the official said.

    I spent yesterday with my son and his wife both in their late 20's and as usual got to talking politics. Both of them thankfully are Liberals. They did however offer a feeling they say many of their friends share and that is the no one in Washington really cares about Americans. They are concerned about whomever is paying them off. They see nothing wrong with funding a war, but not providing healthcare to the poor, they see nothing wrong with preventing same sex couples from marrying yet condone pedophiles, affairs and divorce of their brethern. I asked them both why they thought things had gone so wrong in America and their answer was Dad, It's about the MONEY. Pretty sad really, but i am afraid they are right.
  • dogeatdogi · 1 year ago
    MoveOn demands a filibuster
    Insisting on a campaign promise that Obama would filibuster any wiretapping bill that included retroactive immunity for the telecommunications companies that let the government listen in, Obama's allies at MoveOn are asking supporters to "call Sen. Obama today and tell him you're counting on him to keep his word."

    Obama has said he'll work in the Senate to strip that provision from the House bill, but stopped short of promising to filibuster the bill.
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    Wasn't a year or more ago in these spaces that certain commenters expressed incredulity that racism, of all things, could still exist in America's corporate fantasyland???
    Like the poor, Jesus, as expressed in Matthew 26:11, could just have well said, the haters and instigators will be with you always.
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    These people are a whackjob minority, although there are ordinary people who would never vote for a black for prez and these cultists provide the fodder for continued racial hate.

    However, I have no doubt that Obama will win. Most people don't understand the sociological and political history of racism very well and even institutional racism thrives in many areas, in spite of political rhetoric and pitting of working class whites and blacks against one another. Of course, the more money you have, the more you can isolate yourself from what's going on, from street crime, school problems, work situations (you know--that black woman with the college degree who got the job ole Bob (who got his thru nepotism) wanted down at City Hall).

    Meanwhile, John McCain's YouTube problem has become a nightmare:

    http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/39179-mccain-s-yo...
  • Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 1 year ago
    White trash is as white trash does...a person who lives a miserable life swilling Bud, watching cars race around a track (that's a sport?); eating crap junk food; and on and on ad nauseum...need a scapegoat to hate in order to "elevate" their own existence in their own minds. For a long time they had to hate us faggots and dykes because overt racism and hate of women would not pass, except in internet hate groups. But now they are getting red meat with an African-American who could actually BE the President of the United States. I suppose a very cynical homo could breathe a sigh of relief for the next few months...I won't go there...but that is reality. We are certainly gonna be off the hate list for now with them. They have way bigger fish to fry...in those deep fryers they use for turkeys every November...okay that was a stretch of metaphors. But my point is that white trash needs someone to hate. Barry is their target for now.
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    I expect Obama to win the presidency just as John F. Kennedy won it years ago. Sensible people back then agreed that a Catholic presidency was a mistake. Perhaps it was but it happened anyhow.

    I doubt that voting for JFK was an exercise in religious tolerance back then and I doubt that voting for Obama is an exercise in racial tolerance today. The nation was ready for a change after Eisenhower. The nation is ready for a major change after the Bush Debacle. We're ready for change and we don't want a Leader Fuehrer to believe in.
  • jwhit · 1 year ago
    I have read several reports over the past few years that have suggested that hate groups have been on the rise since 2001. The name and location of these newer groups was published by the ADL a couple of years ago. I believe there was a report entitled Extremism on the Rise a few years ago.
  • Psyche · 1 year ago
    Southern Poverty Law Center does a good job of tracking hate groups (including mapping them).
  • TheOriginalLiz · 1 year ago
    As this election season progresses, I think we will be confronted with a view of the worst that America has to offer ... hopefully, it will be countered by Americans with higher ideals.
  • jwhit · 1 year ago
    This whole situation is sad but it's reality. There have been rumors during the past couple of months that Bush/Cheney was going to bomb Iran to declare a National Emergency and cancel the elections. However, Bill Kristol
    said on Fox News this morning that Bush will bomb Iran if he thinks Obama is going to win. WE ARE IN TROUBLE

    http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/22/kristol-bus...
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    I think Bill Kristol is correct and that we will need to worry until Inauguration Day.
  • jwhit · 1 year ago
    It will happen long before then. Some like Webster Tarpley and others are predicting by summer based on intelligence and insider info
  • Fireblazes(CheetohsandCatfood) · 1 year ago
    Of course it is, and that big orange thing in the sky is the sun. Why are people so surprised? Just the other day in a converstion with a older man I know he referenced "jungle-bunnies" and fucking wetbacks". My response was to tell him I found what he said is offensive. People can say whatever they want as is their constitutional right but we must not ever fail to call them on their offensive hate speech!
    On a happier note the repubs are freaking out over BOB BARR, the conservative Ralph Nader...
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080622/ap_on_el_pr...
  • TorrentFire · 1 year ago
    There is even an undercurrent of racism among some Democrats who are quick to judge Obama on issues like the FISA compromise. If we aren't doing anything suspicious, then we shouldn't be worried about surveillance during these times of war. Barack is smart to work with the Republicans in protecting us from hidden Al Qaeda cells in our cities. Those who question Obama's credibility seem to be responding to his skin color and not his true ethics.

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/
  • LeslieB · 1 year ago
    Criticism of Obama's stance on the recent FISA bill equals racism?! "If we aren't doing anything suspicious, then we shouldn't be worried about surveillance..."?!

    Are you joking? Have you read the so-called FISA "compromise"? It gives Bush broad powers to spy on anyone he chooses without a warrant, without legal justification, in addition to granting telecom immunity. It's not a compromise bill, it's a complete gutting of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution. If Obama supports this bill, then he deserves criticism as does anyone else who voted for it, such as Pelosi and Hoyer.
  • Ruslanchik · 1 year ago
    Obama has used his opposition to telecom immunity to his political advantage, then he just up and decides that it doesn't matter. It is not racism to call him out on this. There is no explanation for what the Democrats did except for them selling out to the telecom companies. That is not a good sign about a potential Obama presidency.
  • jr · 1 year ago
    "It's fine you employ Mark Fuhrman"-advertisers to Fox
  • Ruslanchik · 1 year ago
    I fully expect the Republicans to use race as issue #1. They will run underhanded ads and use their proxies at Fox to stir up racist feelings across the country.
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    Sad but very true.
  • blackwolf · 1 year ago
    Fox News couldn't exist if they didn't have an audience. I say, let the revolution begin! It's time we showed the world what America is really about. This is the propoganda that terroist groups will be training new recruits with.

    "If American hates its own--how can it have face anywhere else in the world?"
  • ashieuk · 1 year ago
    I particularly enjoyed:

    "Nothing has awakened normally complacent white Americans more than the prospect of America having an overtly nonwhite president."

    Presumably the previous nonwhite Presidents were covert, the sneaky things!!
  • blackwolf · 1 year ago
    Haha....I noted the same thing:)
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    Hey Joe,

    nice analysis. But McCain has his own problems with neo-nazi racists too. He's close friends with Lieberman (remember David Duke visited and befriended Iran) ; pro-immigration reform (racists jammed the Cap Hill phones to block McCain's bill) ; and one of his daughters is from Bangladesh (that minor detail sunk his campaign in 2000).

    My bet: racists will vote for Bob Barr, not McCain.
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    HuffPost Video: In a Post-ABC News poll last month, nearly nine in 10 whites said they would be comfortable with a black president. While fewer whites, about two-thirds, said they would be "entirely comfortable" with it, that was more than double the percentage of all adults who said they would be so at ease with someone entering office for the first time at age 72, which McCain (R-Ariz.) would do should he prevail in November.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/22/obama-...
  • Fireblazes(CheetohsandCatfood) · 1 year ago
    So if McCain chooses Lieberman as his VP, that leaves the bigots with quite the conundrum.
  • sherifffruitfly · 1 year ago
    Well if it's only "a few bad apples", like "good whites" always say, then there's nothing to worry about. Right?
  • Ben Dover · 1 year ago
    Racism is just ignorant. I personally don't care if politicians are black, white, brown, yellow, green, striped with blue highlights. It's the person, their values and their beliefs that guide me in that matter.

    But, when one of them seemingly supports an anti-American FISA law and retroactive immunity that basically guts the Fourth Amendment by a Congressional vote that is against the will of the people...that does give me pause.
  • blackwolf · 1 year ago
    Get unstuck maestro. Consider the fact there has to be a balance between civil liberties and national security. This is not going to change in post 9-11. Obama feels there should be far better oversight and control of the law. That should be reasonable to any clear thinking soul.

    It seems to me that you're holding Obama to a much higher standard than, let's say, a "John McCain". Obama has clearly stated he wants to eliminate the special interest groups, bring foreign diplomacy back to the table,
    put a cap on the loopholes that allow oil-speculations to drive up petrol. The list goes on and on. And this one
    act of his gives you pause "in the cause"?

    It sounds to me like you're sitting on the fence waiting for something to happen!
  • Ben Dover · 1 year ago
    This one act is the Bill of Rights. They are non-negotiable. A candidate either supports them or does not.

    Those that do not, do not deserve election to the highest office in the land.

    This is NOT a simple policy change by a candidate, this is the Bill of Rights that is being discussed.

    Besides, we all know that McSame cannot wait to begin his trampling of any and everything. I just expect and demand that Obama stand for the Bill of Rights. I would rather chew off my arm than to vote for a neo-con. So, my options are either support Obama or simply sit this one out. The decision will be Obama's.
  • blackwolf · 1 year ago
    I'm totall with you on the bill of rights.
  • Andon · 1 year ago
    Wondering how many amongst the admittedly prejudiced are willing to act on their views. Double the guard on the wall tonight and get the boiling oil simmering at Party HQ. The soldiers of the Great Unwashed are on the move.
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    As the US slides farther into 3rd world status, expect racism and other forms of prejudice to grow and become more blatant from society as a whole.

    Much of what we interpret as racism is rooted in poverty. When one is on the bottom rung and that is coupled with ignorance, often familial and sometimes willful and certainly related to geographic location where new thinking usually isn't welcome, then the tendency is to disparage those above.

    Racism is, to me, far more repugnant from the top down than is racism from the stereotypically ignorant bottom up.
  • marxtone · 1 year ago
    "...and three in 10 acknowledge feelings of racial prejudice..."

    And 3 in 10 approve of Bush. A coincidence, I'm sure.
  • nuneutralobserver2008 · 1 year ago
    WHY I'M NOT VOTING FOR BARACK OBAMA

    Because I'm a straight, white, male, non-union member, non-student. I checked his category called "PEOPLE" on his web-site, and there's no category for me.
  • blackwolf · 1 year ago
    Either you're joking or simply an idiot. If an idiot, then you've abandoned common sense (if you ever had it to begin with). My advice would be to find a home in one of the skinhead communities....and vote Republican.
  • blackwolf · 1 year ago
    The rise in racist activity is no surprise to me. It's always been there. And as long as these whites are weighed down by poverty and ignorance, they'll always be on the recruitment list. The Republicans have been playing this segment of society for decades. This will weaken what credibility we have left in the eyes of the world.

    The white trash of America will be a critical factor in how the world judges us. There's a storm comin'.
  • Antigone · 1 year ago
    Gee - 3 in 10 are willing to acknowledge being racists. I'll bet you anything that same 30% are the nutty ass Christian Reich who are just dying for Armageddon to begin tomorrow and the same psycho 30% who still believe Chimpy is doing a heck of a job. That says something really sorry and sick about the state of this country.
  • coolcatdaddy · 1 year ago
    Whenever the economy goes down the tubes, hate groups start attracting angry wackos, looking for someone to blame. It also means that this type of activity is brought into the open, is easier to monitor and, in the end, makes them look like the extremist nutcases they are. Society progresses and moves on, leaving them further behind, wallowing in their own self-pity and bile.
  • mmedefarge · 1 year ago
    No one has pointed out out that it was "Democrats", the Clintons, who were the first ones to employ this strategy.