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AMERICAblog: Red states dominate teen pregnancy statistics

  • stagemom · 10 months ago
    to paraphrase seinfeld: have ya seen the people in new england?
  • Steve_in_CNJ · 10 months ago
    family planning is godless librul and satanic in those places. but the report suggests the problem is worst among minorities. it must be so confusing to be a redneck.
  • graymatter · 10 months ago
    Satanic. Look out, it's a theme...
  • Steve_in_CNJ · 10 months ago
    it's satanic to 1) have sex for pleasure or even 2) have the intention to have sex for pleasure. Ergo, it offends god to purchase condoms or pills. Ergo, half of the girls in high school are preggers.

    this is also why the US couldn't support HIV prevention in Africa -- they were advocating condom use, which is just satanic. god wants you to die instead of using a condom.
  • graymatter · 10 months ago
    I commented on this yesterday at http://www.sodahead.com/question/227197/why-do-....

    Some pretty hinky examples of neocon flamebait exist therein. Check it.

    Cons over there have this as caused both by promiscuous blacks AND baby-keeping Republican teens refusing the abortions so "liberally" handed out in those satanic blue states...
  • scytherius · 10 months ago
    What utter bigots and idiots they are. Yeah, all the minorities are in the South and are solely responsible for this phenomenon. Also, abortion is illegal in the South and legal elsewhere so . . . *sigh* These people just need to die off.
  • sigh · 10 months ago
    Yes, but if these statistics are any clue, they won't be! They have more kids versus the smaller families of the godless pinko-commies. Dysgenics is a horrible thing.
  • TampaZeke · 10 months ago
    Not that they'll mention it, or even acknowlege it, but the red states also have the highest abortion rates so that puts a big ole fly in their ointment.
  • An_American_Karol · 10 months ago
    Abstinence only isn't working out real well for these wingers.
    Didn't I hear those girls wearing rings for purity are more likely to have unprotected sex?
    I'll go see if I can find the article.
  • Chit · 10 months ago
    Uh 1) Hispanics (as the article points out) and 2) Higher populations means more power in the long run. Just ask the muslims.
  • stoic · 10 months ago
    "... and pretending as though sex doesn't happen with teens is not a policy."

    Well, it actually is a "policy", just not a good one.
  • SouthernYankee · 10 months ago
    Yes, and these are the same people that would be bitching about giving these unwed mothers welfare to help raise their children. The very people. They want these unwed people give up their children for adoption. They don't care because it isn't their child.
  • EdA · 10 months ago
    But, to make up for having the highest rates of teen pregnancy, the Red States also generally have the highest rates of divorce and violent crime. And, perhaps to prove how much she loves the Fundamentalists, God and/or Mother Nature seem also to have given the Bible Belt states the most natural disasters -- hurricanes, floods, drought.
  • Brad · 10 months ago
    Recalling the Bill Maher bit on statistics ending with "thinking outside the box."

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5124070...
  • nikolai · 10 months ago
    "Which leads me to an important question; where were these (chastity) pledges when I was in high school?"

    Thanks Brad, this is not so much comedy as truth, and truth is stranger (and funnier) than fiction!
  • RitornaVincitor · 10 months ago
    And Evangelicals dominate divorce. No surprise there.
  • Butch1 · 10 months ago
    Unfortunately, no one will ever hear Dobson quote from these facts. They don't jibe with his religious blather.
  • EatWIldFish · 10 months ago
    Alaska ranks #1 for teen pregnancy, according to the Anchorage Daily News, citing the same federal report. It looks like Alaska gals are followin' the great example of both Gov Snowflake and her teenage daughter! What a role model--NOT!
  • SouthernYankee · 10 months ago
    Well the buck the minority pregnancy rate don't they? I mean that is a mostly lily white state.
  • Jonathan_Justice · 10 months ago
    Perhaps Chris could give us some of them there Eurostats to help us understand just how deep the hole these authoritarian denialists have dug for us is.
  • twostepcub · 10 months ago
    It's because we're too busy getting gay married up here to have a rash of teen babies. Isn't it?

    LOL seriously don't you think it's kinda of odd and seemingly misogynistic that the bible-thumper states seem to have the highest rate of teen birth? WHy then are they so focused on controlling the lives of us gheys? Can't clean up their own backyard?
  • lilybart · 10 months ago
    "clean up their own backyard"

    This should be thrown at them every time they start whining about gays and the liberals in the NE. When you have stellar family values in your state, you can talk about mine.
  • Indigo · 10 months ago
    It's all the fault of our hot sultry weather and our bright sunshine. Come visit. Bring money.
  • ej · 10 months ago
    I live in TX and the teen pregnancy rate has been bad for years. I can remember being in middle school(mid-1980s) and high school and there was nothing but teen girls getting preggers. They never talked to us about sex ed in school and I certainly remember they didn't say a word about sex ed in my middle school years. I never even heard of a condom until I was in the 14 years old and didn't even know what one was.
  • SouthernYankee · 10 months ago
    I graduated in 67'. I remember the first girl in my graduating class that as pregnant. She wasn't allow to graduate with the class. Now in the rurual area I live they go to school have their babies and bring them to school in the day care program. Thats nice but were is the outrage like in the earlier years?
  • bob_h · 10 months ago
    They also seem to lead in dog-fighting and crystal meth production. We're so lucky to have the Red States.
  • Bethie · 10 months ago
    Come on...you have to think like a fundie...abstinence and chasity balls work for the good little white girls.
    Here is the disclaimer just for them: "The three states have large proportions of black and Hispanic teenagers — groups that traditionally have higher birth rates, experts noted."

    Translation: It is all those satan loving, family value hating, minorities (another reason to put up the boarder fence - all those hispanics coming here to have their babies) are skewing the statiscs
  • SouthernYankee · 10 months ago
    You might have a good point there. My son's ex is white and had 1 child out of wedlock at 16 yrs old. The other at the age of 21 yrs old but my son married her.
  • Andrew · 10 months ago
    The higher socioeconomic status probably also has something to do with it. Upper middle class teenagers tend to have fewer pregnancies than poor teenagers. Unfortunately for the south, there are lots of teenagers from poor families down there compared to New England.

    Of course, maybe if they put as much effort into teaching science as the do into teaching the Bible, they might be able to break that chain.
  • TampaZeke · 10 months ago
    That's part of it but I think an equally influencial factor is Religiously imposed ignorance and stupidity. The religiousity of the South angrily shuns sex education, condoms, family planning and frank, educated, informed discussions about sexuality that are not tainted by religious dogma and fear. The only time you can get these tight asses to talk freely about sex is when their all liquored up and horney, which is exactly the wrong time to have you're first talk about sex if pregnancy is NOT your aim.

    It's just a matter of time before the South breaks out in an epidemic of STD's, which they will ignore or try to pray away.

    Basic, non religiously tainted education would improve both their economic status as well as their social and cultural ills.
  • xtopher · 10 months ago
    Another instance when conservative policies create more people that they hate.
  • SouthernYankee · 10 months ago
    No they don't hate their own (republicans like Sarah), only democratics.
  • TampaZeke · 10 months ago
    With just a quick glance at those statitistics you would have to be blind, or intentionally refusing to see, that there is a DIRECT correlation between the teen pregnancy rate of the states and the states that have gay marriage amendments. Moreover, the states with the more severe the gay marriage amendments and the states where the amendments passed with the largest percentage of support are invariably the states with the HIGHEST teen pregnancy rates. Mississippi has one of the most restrictive marriage amendments in the country; no marriage, no civil unions, no domestic partnerships, no NOTHING and they passed it with OVER 85% support (the highest support in the nation) yet it seems that the very family unit that they were so "careful" in "protecting" is in the dumpster. Oh, and just for good measure, Mississippi also has one of the top five abortion rates and is in the top 10 in divorce rates. But who cares about all these silly little distractions? The important thing is, they protected the family against those marriage killing, family hating queers who are out to destroy their Christian family values.

    TampaZeke, native Mississippian
  • Don Boston · 10 months ago
    Mississippi has lower abortion rates than most other states but you say it is in the top five. It seems your post contains fabrications. 6.1% of Mississippi pregnancies ended in abortion in 2006 and 7.0% in 2005.

    For 2005, 5 out of 1000 women aged 15-44 had abortions in Mississippi, but the national average was 15 per 1000 - three times as many. Connecticut, at 17 is above the national average.

    Mississippi has more divorces per population than Connecticut, but that is only because they have more marriages as well. Their rate of divorces per marriage is among the lowest in the US; Connecticut's is among the highest.
  • Don Boston · 10 months ago
    This chart shows state rankings. Mississippi ranks #44 out of the 47 states for which data was available. Not the top five at all.

    http://www.statemaster.com/graph/hea_abo_rat-he...

    I find it very disappointing how, to promote an agenda, people on the internet will fabricate statistics.

    The key folks, is reputable citations. Without that, assume everything you hear is made up.
  • lilybart · 10 months ago
    I would like to think that my daughter will not want to have sex until she is 25 or so but we are wired to reproduce by Mother Nature and since this animal drive is also Survival, it cannot be repressed successfully. If we could give them medications that stifle the sex drive, I suppose that would work.

    Otherwise, we have to deal with the facts as they are. Teens want to have sex and they can't help it. In the olden says people married young and died young. Now, evolution has not caught up with science, so we live longer and marry later.
  • SouthernYankee · 10 months ago
    Well I can tell you I was still a virgin when I got married at 29. I had enough respect for myself and my parents not to put myself in that position. However, saying that today I would think differently because there are ways to protect yourself. But I don't believe in bed jumping. If I found the person I really think I would love and think he was the one than maybe I would have had sex with protection. I have a young granddaugher and I pray she won't have sex until she finds Mr Right. I will tell her not to jump from bed to bed and have respect for yourself. If and when she is ready come to me and I will take her to get protection. No babies before marriage. I want her to go to college.
  • H · 10 months ago
    I respected myself enough to experience a few females before my wife, and she did the same. We are both better because lovers, AND we appreciate each other more because of our pasts.

    Waiting until marriage only makes you lose life experiences. It's ok to have sex before marriage if you can be smart about it- if you're educated about it- which doesn't happen with religious influence- they just make you feel guilty for being you.

    It's beyond me why catholics, like myself (now former catholic,) can't read history and find out that the WHOLE anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-contraception kick came about because the church TAXED you for how many kids you had. Gay= no kids = = no $$$ = bad/evil.

    *Get it?*

    Man used the fear of God, changed the bible and added all the "sex is bad unless you having a kid" BS.

    Man is fallible, and the Bible was placed in the fallable hands of the rich and powerful... you don't think they altered it?

    Don't be so naive.

    Humans were meant to express themselves sexually. Stifle that, and you stifle what makes us a living creature.
  • SouthernYankee · 10 months ago
    I respect your opinion. But I felt different at that time. I don't have regrets I waited. How do you miss something you didn't experience at the time? I have been married to the same man for 30 yrs and still love him like I did at 29 when we got married. I learned from him what I needed to learn. I grew up in the catholic church also. I will tell you this. The best protection from not having sex before marriage was my father. There is no question he would have killed me if I had ever thought of having sex before marriage. My dad was a good father and a man before his time. I loved him so much and respected him enough not to do something that I new would disappointment him and my mother. Even after he died at the age of 50 I had that respect for him that I just wouldn't have thought of doing it. However, these times are different. I would council my granddaughter to wait until she is at least 22 or a little older. I will take her and get her the protection she needs. If she decides to it earlier than I won't be happy but I will make sure she is protected.
  • Don Boston · 10 months ago
    "Waiting until marriage only makes you lose life experiences."

    This is true. It is also sad that so many people do not have the experiences of the wide variety of venereal diseases that are available to experience and enjoy. More experiences is always good.
  • nikolai · 10 months ago
    "It is also sad that so many people do not have the experiences of the wide variety of venereal diseases that are available to experience and enjoy."

    Don, that is just stupid and you know it. Don't you get it? That's why sex ed is SO important (for just one example) to teach kids HOW TO AVOID STDs! But you righties are against letting your children take sex ed, SO they get STDs, and get pregnant, and get abortions. Circularly illogical, under educated, and close-minded; that's the far right, all right! Close-mindedness is an ugly thing Don. Don't subject your chilren to it and ruin their lives as you have ruined yours!
  • lilybart · 10 months ago
    Again, us Heathens in the commie NE, have the lowest rates of teen pg and divorce.

    And yet we have the highest rates for allowing gays to marry and adopt. Why aren't gay people destroying our families in the NE???
  • SouthernYankee · 10 months ago
    Because ya'll are smart in the NE and us peoples down in the south ah - not so much. Hell you go people here in the south that are great grandparents by the age of 60 yrs old. My son's ex wife had a child at 16. You would have thought she would have known better not to get pg again. No she did and my son married her which was fine because he loved her. But her love for him wasn't as strong. Their marriage didn't last one year. But he has equal rights with her. That pisses her off because the other daddy of her child doesn't have the same visitation as my son. My son is a better father than she is a mother. My son is devoted to his daughter. She just turned 3. He goes to work and home and plays and takes her out. He hasn't dated in 3 yrs and won't because he said he doesn't want to go through the hell he went through again. He and his ex are civil but you never know what she wants because she is sneaky and he is up front. She as already moved in with a guy with his daughter and my son can't stand it. She has moved in and out and dating other guys so many times. It upsets him. But this is what goes on down here in the south. She won't miss going to church on sunday though. But I keep a good relationship with her because of my granddaughter.
  • nikolai · 10 months ago
    Interesting! Thanks for the informative input, I didn't realize that. Too bad the people who need to know this most are the people who will accept it the least, even if it is fact.
  • ted · 10 months ago
    Did you think to consider that most of these states have more teen births because there are fewer abortions because the poverty level is higher?

    Go ahead and jump to conclusions, twist the facts, and blame everything on the Jesus gang if it makes you feel better.
  • G.M. Palmer · 10 months ago
    Um,

    This is for birth rate, not pregnancy rate. What is the actual pregnancy rate? To find that out, you'd have to figure out how many teen abortions are happening across the US.
  • nikolai · 10 months ago
    "This is for birth rate, not pregnancy rate. What is the actual pregnancy rate? To find that out, you'd have to figure out how many teen abortions are happening across the US."

    BINGO. Red staters/repubs don't want their children to have any sex ed, and they rant and rail against the liberals (and sex ed). Then their daughter(s) get pregnant and quietly get an abortion. "Now, go to confession/church so all will be forgiven!" "Oh, ok, I'm forgiven? Cool!" Boink! ... Repeat the above
  • Peter · 10 months ago
    perfect.
  • Mormon · 10 months ago
    This is deliberate. The churches want to increase their membership by having more kids, and they want everyone to suffer so that they can feel guilty and come to Jesus.
  • Bill · 10 months ago
    it's a conspiracy to out (cop) populate liberals! c'mon libs, get it on. it's a race to see who can put the world population over 12 billion
  • Sarah · 10 months ago
    Mississippi has the highest teen *birth* rate. You have inaccurately quoted the article you link to which clearly states birth and not pregnancy. It's still amazingly lamentable for the red states, but accuracy is important.

    If I were a conspiracy theorist, I'd think you purposefully changed it because high teen pregnancy is bad. High teen births isn't necessarily bad if you're pro-life and the reason for the difference in birth-rates is because abortion isn't as common in cases of teen pregnancy.

    So, now you have some research to do. Mississippi may have the highest teen pregnancy rate as well as the highest teen birth rate, but you don't know that. I hope that you will correct the article.

    ~A New England Pro-Choice Reader
  • woody · 10 months ago
    Itz because there aren't as many faggots in the red states.
  • sigmaalgebra · 10 months ago
    Teenage girls being pregnant and having babies? TERRIFIC! As is plenty easy to see, that's just what they are SUPPOSED to do.

    Look, the situation is simple: The goal is a good life based heavily on a good marriage based heavily on taking great pride and pleasure in being good parents. Everyone pursuing anything else is a weak, sick, or dead limb on the tree and at most a tangent to civilization and, in particular, pursuing values that cannot last.

    In their late teens, girls are perfectly prepared to be good wives and mothers. All they need a good, deep, loving relationship and marriage with strong marriage vows with a man well prepared to be a good husband and father.

    If the girls wait past their teens, then they get frustrated and develop attitudes that conflict with their being good mothers and tend to make them weak, sick, or dead limbs on the tree. E.g., they go to college, have someone on the dorm floor get a lot of vodka and orange juice, deliberately rush to drink enough vodka to get quite drunk, put on a short dress with a loose skirt and nothing else but a pair of shoes, and rush off to a party to 'hook-up' where they have sex with as many different men as possible -- without even knowing their names or remembering them the next day. Some college 'education'. For this people pay $50,000 a year?

    Why? Because the girls are following the herd of popular culture written by women who are not being successful as teenage wives and mothers and, instead, as has been common for such women going back at least 100 years, have sour grapes about being good as wives and mothers and, instead, loudly claim to want to be liberated, autonomous, self-sufficient, and equal, where sex with strangers, maybe in public, without a relationship is just fun, all friction, no affection, as much fun for the girls as for a old, simplistic image of men. It's nonsense, degenerate, degrading, dangerous, destructive nonsense, but it's what popular culture likes.

    By the time such people get married, sex, adultery, fidelity, and much of the marriage itself are all meaningless, divorce is much more likely, good parenting is impossible, and they become weak, sick, or dead limbs on the tree and society suffers. BUMMER.

    Lady Di was a teenage mother and one of the most beautiful, desirable, wonderful, promising women who ever lived. Unfortunately she married an IDIOT who talked to his plants and mostly wanted from another married woman the mothering he didn't get from the queen.

    Again, in their late teens, girls are perfectly prepared to be good wives and mothers, and all they need is a good, deep, loving relationship and marriage with strong marriage vows with a man well prepared to be a good husband and father.

    For the dead limbs on the tree, we should just call them that. Then the men can have sex for money with women who are whores with no good impact on the future.

    But a high school education is not enough, and the girls need more? Okay, then give them more, in grades 1-12. How? Easy: Currently grades 1-12 are mostly just babysitting with next to no real, significant, or useful educational content. So, replace the babysitting with the needed education. They can learn accounting and get ready for their CPA exam, learn nursing, learn computing, etc. Much of the learning can be from video lessons and tested with standardized tests.

    Look, "Men and women deserve equal respect as persons but are not the same". In particular, women need to be good wives and mothers, and men need to be good husbands and fathers, and these two roles are VERY different.
  • mirth · 10 months ago
    Thanks, sigmaalgebra.

    Good comedy is getting scarce and we can all use some levity during these tense times.
  • ompancho · 10 months ago
    this is the purpose of live, to procreate and nothing else... it we don't do that we will die out. this goes to all you who think life is a big party and I dont want children...
  • Jim · 10 months ago
    Sources? kthx
  • bradhart · 10 months ago
    There is absolutely no surprise that red states dominate the pregnancy stats. When your objective is to stop abortion by pretending sex doesn't happen, belittling people when it does, don't teach people all the ways to prevent it, nor provide the funding for birth control to the people mostly likely to get knocked up you are just begging for a pregnancy problem. Of course this is a pregnancy problem that is eventually going to come back and bite red states in the ass. They are purposely creating a minority underclass that is growing in record numbers. Through their own arrogance the red states will eventually turn blue when minorities put a strangle hold on politics.
  • GrMtGirl3 · 10 months ago
    I think this can be based on three major factors.
    The South is . . .
    Deep in the Bible Belt
    Lesser overall wealthy
    Poorer overall school system
    The white haired racists which make up a good percentage of the Repubs need to keep some population down to make themselves look better.
  • nikolai · 10 months ago
    The problem that red staters/repubs have is they are pitiless, so they think it's ok to condemn the liberals for their stand on sex and and birth control, including abortion. They spout silly things like, "If any daughter of mine gets pregnant outside of marriage, she'll not be welcome under my roof!"

    Then their 14 year old daughter gets pregnant.

    Oh wait, THAT'S DIFFERENT. A quiet abortion is performed, then ah, back to normal like nothing happened.

    Except they don't bark quite as loud about sex and birth control now.
  • Pregnancy · 10 months ago
    We cannot say that every thing that we teach is the solutions to the problem but let as think that it depends sometimes to the person who take care themselves to avoid those things because it can do nothing with them and can add to their problem if possible.
  • Just Joe · 2 weeks ago
    Right now, your comment is recorded as "9 months ago", which is absolutely awesome.
  • Elizabeth. · 10 months ago
    I think that they should continue with the abstinence programs, focusing a lot on the after affects. Show pictures, diagrams, whatever, scare the crap out of them with graphic pictures of what STD's and birth look like. I'm 17 years old, and when I was 13, in my abstinence education class in 8th grade I made the promise to myself that I would wait until I was married before I had sex. And the programs shouldn't be only a week long for 8th grade and just leave it at that, because that's all i really got (aside from the "how your body is changing" video and the AIDS videos showing in 4th-6th grade. Both of which lasted roughly 1 hour per year). And teen ABORTION rate should be brought into this too. Maybe the states with higher teen pregnancy's are just the states where there's less girls that are ok with murduring their child, ever think about that?
  • Pat · 9 months ago
    I'm a 62 yr old nurse, mom, grandmother and was really sad to read the last few sentences about some states having more girls who want to murder babies. What you have to understand...men are never left with the problem of the pregnancy, the birth, the adoption, or the abortion....it's always the female of all ages. People have abortions out of desperation and fear. Every male and female should know how their body functions and how the bodies of the opposite sex functions. Education ...Education..Education is the answer and the key to reducing abortions. The Conservative ABstinence only programs have caused teen pregnancy to rise You really need to inform yourself. Go to the CDC..Center For Disease Control and learn. You are so totally misimformed and living in lala land.
  • teen mom · 9 months ago
    i totally agree
    we can't keep pretending like this isn't happening!!!!!


    -concerned teen mom
  • jeni lynn · 8 months ago
    coming from a young mom who was a statistic at the age of 16.... the sex education was a fluke because for one schools dont harp on it for long! its more like DONT DO IT OR YOU'LL GET AN STD! which is a load of crap. abstinence programs put alot of pressure on teens, they're going to do it even if you tell the not to, its a personal choice and one they will make reguardless of what mommy and daddy say. telling them its a sin... just opens the door for rebellion. yeah it is a sin to have pre-martial sex.... but that doesnt stop it. my mom did the best thing she could do.... we actually sat down face to face and made it a causal conversation, no pressure, no fighting nothing. just a mother daughter talk. I got on bc and ended up pregnant still. but i still went to school and acted like a normal teenager. people need to stop making it into a huge problem! sex happens pregnacies arent always planned but that doesnt mean that the whole world stops! im 21 have 3 kids married and attending college to become a sonograph technician.

    the best way to go..... talk to your child, reassure them if they are pregnant be a loving and caring statue in their time of need and doubt. dont berate them and talk down to them..... because deep inside that little girl with the growing child.... is still your little girl and needs her mommy more than ever.

    trust me i know
  • karen · 5 months ago
    who wrote this garbage? it was a stupid communist wasnt it!