DISQUS

Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago

I call on the Republican Party to disband, immediately.

An_American_Karol · 1 year ago

I concur. They've done enough damage to this country.

BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago

I thought she gave a pretty good speech before the passage of the Bankruptcy Reform Bill that fucked Americans. Boehner still voted for it.

JNo · 1 year ago

Not to mention Newt was going behind Boner's back telling them not to vote while reluctantly supporting in public. Wow! They have just reached a new low and its against their own party! This is playing out like a Greek Tragedy or some kind of tragedy. What a bunch a drama queens! Love it!

profmarcus · 1 year ago

note the recent think progress post citing congresspeople who voted "for" the bailout overall received 54% more from banking and financial groups than those who voted "no"... interesting, no...?

http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/

grandma · 1 year ago

What do Republicans have against being upfront and honest??

Oh what a tangled web they weave.....

BLOGGING BITCH! · 1 year ago

Remember when Boehner was handing out checks to Reblicans on the House Floor? They were from the Tobacco Lobby that also felt regulation was bad.

Hey, is Paulson still going to be immune from prosecution? Why does Pelosi want that? Is accountability still off the table?

cereal · 1 year ago

um...I think you mean "callous," not "calloused." Though rubbing up against those lobbyists night and day might build up some calluses...

bunnyjump · 1 year ago

And are the Dems going to finally, finally grow a pair and use this, which is handed to them on a silver platter, in the most important presidential election in our lifetimes?

THIS would be an opportunity to be able to clean house, kick out the neocon, rethug criminals (I'd include a couple of Dems too, like Pelosi and Reid) once and for all.

Are the Dems up to it?

I'm not holding my breath...

sukabi1 · 1 year ago

I said yesterday that the Repubs were playing chicken with the Dems....

bunnyjump · 1 year ago

And what was John McCain's role in all this?

Ginger_FL · 1 year ago

Again....

What Crisis????

This is all a ploy to Hang the DEMS....

Oct. Surprise anyone???

Screw Wall Street.....

aquarius2 · 1 year ago

I thought yesterday that the Dems were being set-up by the Republicans after seeing the voting results. Neither party likes this bail out bill, but how sweet it would have been for the Republicans to blame the Dems for passing this bill. From the very start Pelosi has said the bill needs to be bipartisan for a good reason, neither party can then be blamed when or if it does not succeed in helping the economy.

This is a big deal and should be exploited as Republicans lost over a trillion dollars to play politics

Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago

I'm looking for Sarah Palin to giggle in the debate, then pass out.

An_American_Karol · 1 year ago

Rachel Maddow said it best on her show last night. Where is the Republican leadership in Congress?
Anyone, anyone....

HereinDC · 1 year ago

Rachel's girlfriend is not really into politics and doesn't talk politics with Rachel. But when her girlfriend does have a comment...she's always correct.
Well, last night Rachel said her girlfriend said, "Palin will not be debating Thursday Night"

Hmmmmmm

Indigo · 1 year ago

Apart from a few religious organizations, the Republican party hold the lion's share of doublespeak and misleading statements and Macchiavellian deceit.

RIPWAMU · 1 year ago

Johnny Boy is on CNN live (website) right now doing his economical roundtable. He just went on and on about Freddie and Fannie execs being in bed with bad bad people in Washington and how he warned of this 2 years ago. Some nerve..... Nothing but lies and BS as usual. AND I am sick of hearing his whistling voice.

dad · 1 year ago

no shit

RIPWAMU · 1 year ago

Can someone get some video of this roundtable up? Johnny was just (seemingly scripted) bantering with a company exec about how inept the journalists are.

Polly_Tics · 1 year ago

Not only did the GOP run ads, but it seems that Newt Gingrich was whipping the opposition to the bailout behind Boehners back. How's that for working against your own party?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/30/report...

AND that is just what he is doing to gain attention for his own political gain.. I guess Newtie is considering another run come 2012.

woodroad34 · 1 year ago

It was kinda obvious that this was planned when Boner got up and was all pissy about how Pelosi insulted them. These jerks don't have warm blood or compassion and are sociopaths. They wouldn't know about insults unless they were giving them. It was the same with Monkeyboy about giving the inspectors time to find WMDs and then all of a sudden we're invading. Shallow, Shallow, Shallow.

melissap · 1 year ago

Oh the irony. The republicans did the right thing - but for the wrong reasons - and now will be blamed for the market crash. A crash that would have taken place no matter what. Picture a super ball bouncing ever lower. Meanwhile, is anyone else tired of the inept dems - almost getting played again? Why are they trusting this administration - who sat on info (believe me Paulson knew this was coming) and did nothing until they could rush congress to pass the biggest giveaway history? Why not spend the 700 billion on jobs and the unemployment they claim will be caused by the FTD - (lol inside) failure to deliver the 700 billion. It's a mess no matter what. And - fyi - certainly in hindsight we can see that "not doing anything" i.e. not going into Iraq, was a better choice than doing the wrong thing. This bailout is the wrong thing.

MNUSA · 1 year ago

It did look like the Democrats were carrying water for Bush. Do they pay any attention to their constituents at all?

lawdjayee · 1 year ago

All this adds up to incompetence on the part of the Rs. Very bad play. They haven't, for example, denied they made a deal with Pelosi about the number of R votes in the house, and McCain clearly believed that the thing would pass. They wrote a check their butts couldn't cash. Let's hope it hurts them.

I also found particularly frustrating the "people oppose the bailout" narrative. The LA Times/Bloomberg poll which showed 57% against and 30% in favor was worded something like this: "Should gov't bailout troubled firms or is it not the government's responsibility to aid private business." A Pew poll which read "Should the gov't bailout troubled firms" got a 57% yes response.

EmGD · 1 year ago

Republicans acting like two-faced liars? Quelle horreur! Frankly, after nearly twenty years of this shit, we should be used to the fact they enter every negotiation like this. That's pretty much been the case, politics first, everything else second. Stop expecting them to grow a conscience and ram through your own ideas.

http://thesebastards.blogspot.com/

grandma · 1 year ago

"Obama just projected a sense of hope, courage and resolve to the American people. McCain is busy whining and acting erratic today, while Obama just showed himself a leader."

Exactly......just caught a few minutes of McCain speaking a bit ago....I don't know who he could possibly encourage or give hope to.....he speaks like he is 100 years old...no enthusiasm, no hope, no McCain.

grandma · 1 year ago

Yglesias:

"I’ve been a bit confused as to how the failure of a bill supported by Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid, and Barack Obama, and a majority of House Democrats, and a majority of Senate Democrats but opposed by a majority of House Republicans could possibly be laid at the feet of Pelosi............"

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2008...

fl79tr · 1 year ago

Shouldn't there be some kind of penalty for doing that? Maybe I'm over reacting, but I mean that's got to be close to "light treason" I would think. It's like, basically they just perpetrated a financial 9-11 on the country.

DougStamate · 1 year ago

I rather think the scenario was supposed to go something like this:
Pelosi and Boehner agree on the respective number of members they each will provide to pass the legislation as "bipartisan".
Pelosi more than meets her quota, but Republican votes are still needed. Boehner allows enough of his "guaranteed" yea votes to switch to nay to imperil the passage of the bill, expecting Pelosi to jump in and twist Democratic arms to get the bill passed. I don't know if it is possible under the rules of the House, but perhaps even hold a second vote and pass the bill using the Democratic majority? After all, it's a National Emergency, isn't it?
The blame for a $700 billion bail-out of Wall Street then gets laid at the feet of the Democratic Party and the Republicans try to run the rest of the election as populists looking out for the interests of "Main Street" (where have they been the last two decades?).
Pelosi didn't bite though, and the bill failed.
Now the Republicans are in a double bind: they can't run against a Democratic bail-out because there wasn't one. And they can't call the Democrats "unpatriotic" for not voting for the bail-out because 2/3's of the Democrats voted for the rescue plan and at least 2/3's of the Republicans didn't.
I love it when a plan comes together...not!

SadButTrue · 1 year ago

If this had gone according to plan the Repukes and their co-conspirators on Wall Street would have accomplished two things. First, they would have pulled off the largest commercial crime in history. Call it fraud, call it extortion, either way it would have been criminal. Second, they would have gained politically by blaming the Democrats in Congress. Sure, they would only have retained a few seats this election cycle, but they would have had some chance of regaining majorities in both houses in the next two or four years.

Of note is that they couldn't have pulled this off without the co-operation of the managers of these companies who CLAIM to be failing. Maybe they really are, but I'd like to see a forensic accounting done. This may have been years in the making, but $700,000 is a lot of incentive.

SadButTrue · 1 year ago

Sorry, I meant $700,000,000,000 is a lot of incentive.

MILOFF · 1 year ago

I am appalled by the fact that the Senate just passed the bailout bill. Do we truly have such little faith in the economic system we preach to the world? How do we expect other countries to act when we recommend they deregulate their state run industries?
Attending to the economy is critical, but passing this bill is not so time critical so as to eliminate proper thought and pursuit of alternate options. The appearance is that this is nothing more than political pandering to get votes in November or to get out of session in time to campaign. Seventy-four Senators just voted yes to a 450-page bill that I seriously doubt they even had time to read. There are countless other options that if we allow the economists of our nation, not just the executive lackeys, time to develop we could come up with a much more acceptable solution. Why is their no transparency in the particulars of the exact issues and specifically how this money will help “Main Street”? The American public is not ignorant we can handle the truth on our financial situation.
Wall Street will right itself; have faith in the greatest country and economic system in the world. We already have a nine trillion dollar debt that my children will have to pay. Congressmen vote “NO” to any bill until we properly review all alternatives.