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AMERICAblog: Reuters: Amnesty says Israel "wantonly" destroyed Gaza

  • alex02139 · 4 months ago
    Hamas bombarded Israel daily for 2 years and nobody seemed bothered by that "wantonly."

    Hint: support countries that value gay rights, not homophobic religious fanatics.
  • Gridlock · 4 months ago
    LOL seen any orthodox zionist jews lately? You just described them.

    No side is innocent and the ones fighting are useless creatures.
  • offspring · 4 months ago
    agree but alot of america's do not know that the israel's treat arabs as human garbage, you can kill them, torture them kidnapp them control them starve them, and no one care's, and when they act up and try to get the jewish peoples out or try and fight them, they are seen as the terrorist while the jewish people are seen as they want to always be seen as victims so noone judges them. As far as "sharing" that right there says a ton about what you know of them.

    good point by the way grid.
  • John · 4 months ago
    The Israelis and Palestinians are both nuts. If they can't learn to share, then they're going to end up destroying each other. I don't know how many Americans actually understand the insanity of all this, since we often speak of Israel in abstract terms. But if you're looking at geography and population, they're fighting over a "country" the size of the San Francisco Bay Area. It is like Oakland going to war with San Jose. We're talking about a tiny, tiny, tiny space. And it is almost always urban warfare, which of course, means higher civilian casualties and extensive infastructure damage.
  • sullivan · 4 months ago
    Israel is truly a terrorist state!
  • libertydan · 4 months ago
    Tell me again why we give Israel and Gaza tons of taxpayer money during an economic crisis
  • piltdown · 4 months ago
    If we didn't, we'd be accused of being anti-Semitic.
  • wags101 · 4 months ago
    Good point! Why does America tolerate the terrorists behavior from Israel and the reward them with more guns, tanks and whatever the latest military arsonal is that's available from us.. They would be nothing but a toothless tiger if we pulled the money plug. They claim they've been "bombarded" with rockets from Palestine because they push them to the limits just to get that reaction som they can justify killing more innocents. Let your congress person know how you feel about AIPAC controlling our government!
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 4 months ago
    File this under "N" for "No Shit."

    And yet the US has become little more in the Middle East than a client state of Israel via AIPAC.
  • Indigo · 4 months ago
    President Obama's mealy-mouthed approach to equal rights for the gay community is about to seem like a study in outspoken courage compared to the way he's going to tip-toe around Israel's record of war crimes.
  • Gridlock · 4 months ago
    Oh i'm so tired of both sides. I say evacuate everybody not interested in continuing this ridiculous blood feud over a strip of dirt and then glass whoever remains with a few neutron bombs.

    Then build a park over it for NORMAL PEOPLE to enjoy.
  • mirth · 4 months ago
    Yeah. Just nuke 'em. Make more room for us normal people.

    </disgust
  • Gridlock · 4 months ago
    Yes, the people not interested in waging war over some musty old book or scrolls from 2000 years ago and a strip of dirt in a desert. People not interested in continued bloodshed and violence.

    I guess you missed the part about shipping everyone NOT INTERESTED in that out before?

    Yeaaaaah.

    The ones that remain are violent, delusional animals.
  • mirth · 4 months ago
    I didn't miss it. I ignored it, as I do most non-think.

    How about we just get rid of thieving, murderous Israel and give the Palestinians back their homeland?

    Wouldn't that be more fair?
  • ezpz · 4 months ago
    Sounds like you're all in favor of genocide - as long as it's on the people of YOUR choosing.

    Nice.
  • mirth · 4 months ago
    Ok. "Get rid of" wasn't the best choice of words.

    How about we just give Israel another country to do their thieving and murdering. Give the Palestinians a break.

    And when they have all but decimated this new country, we'll move them on to another country.

    Of course there's always the possibility that a new country wouldn't tolerate Israel's thug crimes against their population. In that situation and with enough time, maybe Israel would learn, through trial and error, to behave like a civilized and honorable country.
  • ezpz · 4 months ago
    So while we're at it -in the moving business that is, and after *we* move *them* to "another country", let's move Americans out of the USA and give it back to the NATIVE Americans.
    And while that's going on, let's decide who else gets to keep land won in wars and who doesn't.

    But before we do all that, and before we start calling others "thieves" and "murderers", it might be a good idea to read up on some history and geography of that region, history that predates 1967, 1948, 1910, 1831, 1273, 4th century, heck go back to BC and earlier. You may find it interesting.
  • mirth · 4 months ago
    Better still, let's not, by citing historical wrongs of one country against another country, confuse and attempt to defuse Amnesty International's modern day and devastating indictment of Israel's barbarous crimes against the Palestinian people.

    Y'know. The post subject.
  • ezpz · 4 months ago
    Yeah, I know -- "the post subject" which includes this too:

    "The London-based rights group, in a 117-page report on the 22 days of fighting, also criticized the Islamist movement Hamas for rocket attacks on Israel, which it called "war crimes."

    IIRC, you're okay with that and find justification for THOSE war crimes.

    No, not justifying one wrong by pointing out another, just suggesting you learn some history of the region.

    K?
  • kugelschreiber · 4 months ago
    Yeah. "Shipping people" really makes your suggestion more sensible.

    I thought you were kidding.
  • WHYN0T · 4 months ago
    Emergency Email to Obama Re Gaza
    Dear President Obama,

    My friend, Cynthia McKinney and Nobel laureate, Mairead Maguire and 20 other people were trying to deliver humanitarian aid to Gaza, which, as I understand, is something that you have encouraged Israel to allow.

    The Honorable Cynthia McKinney served six terms in the US Congress and she was the Green Party candidate for the office that you eventually won. It is an outrage that the Israeli Navy would block the boat that she and 21 others were on in international waters and board the boat and kidnap the crew and humanitarian aid workers.

    President Obama, when an American captain was kidnapped by Somali "pirates" US Navy SEALS were sent in to rescue him. He was the captain of a private, for profit, ship and the US military was used to rescue him.

    What Israel did, outside of its waters, to an unarmed boat filled with aid for Gazans who have been trapped in a concentration camp by Israel, is an act of international piracy and you must demand that Israel release Ms. McKinney and her fellow captors with all haste.

    I just received word that the illegally detained captives have been moved to another prison and may be charged with trying to enter Israel illegally, when they were trying to get aid to Gaza and were not even in Israeli waters.

    I can't even express my immense outrage at this overt breach of international law that has been perpetrated by Israel.

    Use your influence as the greatest dispenser of military aid to Israel to force that rogue state to release Ms. McKinney et. al., then we can talk about their immoral occupation of Palestine and the inhumane blockade of Gaza.

    With urgency,

    Cindy Sheehan
  • csnet · 4 months ago
    Out Of Our Heads
    Lyrics: Bottrell/Crow Music: Bottrell
    http://www.sherylcrow.com/lyrics/default.aspx?p...

    If you feel you wanna fight me
    There’s a chain around your mind
    When something is holding you tightly
    What is real is so hard to find

    Losing babies to genocide
    Oh where’s the meaning in that plight
    Can’t you see that we’ve really bought into
    Every word they proclaimed and every lie, oh

    If we could only get out of our heads, out of our heads
    And into our hearts
    If we could only get out of our heads, out of our heads
    And into our hearts

    Someone’s feeding on your anger
    Someone’s been whispering in your ear
    You’ve seen his face before
    You’ve been played before
    These aren’t the words you need to hear

    Through the dawn of darkness blindly
    You have blood upon your hands
    All the world will treat you kindly
    But only the heart can understand, oh understand

    If we could only get out of our heads, out of our heads
    And into our hearts
    Children of Abraham lay down your fears, swallow your
    tears and look to your heart

    If we could only get out of our heads, out of our heads
    And into our hearts
    Children of Abraham lay down your fears, swallow your
    tears and look to your heart

    Every man is his own prophet
    Oh every prophet just a man
    I say all the women stand up, say yes to themselves
    Teach your children best you can

    Let every man bow to the best in himself
    We’re not killing any more
    We’re the wisest ones, everybody listen
    ‘Cause you can’t fight this feeling any more, oh anymore

    If we could only get out of our heads, out of our heads
    And into our hearts
    Children of Abraham lay down your fears, swallow your
    tears and look to your heart

    If we could only get out of our heads, out of our heads
    And into our hearts
    Children of Abraham lay down your fears, swallow your
    tears and look to your heart
  • bluecanary · 4 months ago
    The Environmental Damages of an Israeli attack on the Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant, in Iran .


    • Attacking the Bushehr Nuclear Reactor would release contamination in the form of radionuclides into the air.

    • Most definitely Bahrain, Qatar and the UAE will be heavily affected by the radionuclides.

    • Any strike on the Bushehr Nuclear Reactor, will cause the immediate death of thousands of people living in or adjacent to the site, and thousands of subsequent cancer deaths or even up to hundreds of thousands depending on the population density along the contamination plume.


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    Burke Chair in Strategy March 14, 2009
  • JoshIsrael · 4 months ago
    Click here to read the full presentation.

    Col. Richard Kemp
    Formerly commander of British forces in Afghanistan Col. Richard Kemp told a conference in Jerusalem on June 18, 2009:

    "Hamas' military capability was deliberately positioned behind the human shield of the civilian population. They also ordered, forced when necessary, men, women and children from their own population to stay put in places they knew were about to be attacked by the IDF. Israel was fighting an enemy that is deliberately trying to sacrifice their own people, deliberately trying to lure you into killing their own innocent civilians."
  • markhope · 4 months ago
    ISRAEL IS TERRORIST.

    Israel’s Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, is one of the world’s most bloodstained terrorists. He is responsible for the cold-blooded slaughter of at least 1,500 men, women and children MOSLEM AND CHRISTIAN in the Beirut refugee camps of Chatila and Sabra. Even a formal Israeli commission found Sharon personally responsible for the Lebanese massacres.4

    In 1982, as Israel’s defense minister, Sharon directed Israel’s invasion of Lebanon and the carpet bombing and devastation of the city of Beirut (In Lebanon five times more women and children died than in the September New York attack). This terror bombing was carried out by Jews using jet fighters and bombs supplied by the United States.

    After the Israeli military devastation and occupation, Sharon forcibly removed Palestinian resistance fighters from Lebanon. Many Palestinian women, children and old people were left behind in refugee camps near Beirut. The United States publicly guaranteed their safety and promised that they would quickly be reunited with their loved ones. When Sharon plotted their murder, he not only planned a bloody act of terrorism against the refugees; he knew it was an act of treachery against the United States that would raise intense hatred against America.

    On the night of September 16, 1982, Sharon sent Phalangist murder squads into two Palestinian refugee camps, Sabra and Chatila. With Israeli tanks and troops closely surrounding the camps to prevent any of the Palestinians from escaping, the murder squads machine-gunned, bayoneted, and bludgeoned Palestinian civilians all that night, the next day and the following night; all while the Israelis surrounding the camps listened gleefully to the machine gun fire and screams coming from inside. Sharon then sent in bulldozers to hide as much of the atrocity as he could. At least 1500 Palestinian men, women and children were butchered, and perhaps as many as 2500. (An official Lebanese investigation set the figure at 2500) Even after the efforts of Sharon’s bulldozers, many Palestinians remained unburied, and Red Cross workers found whole families; including hundreds of elderly and little children, with their throats cut or disemboweled. Uncounted numbers of women and girls were also raped before they were slaughtered.
    In their effort to wrest control of Palestine from British control, the Zionists waged a campaign of relentless terror, including the bombing of the King David Hotel, which killed 93 people. They ruthlessly murdered British officials and soldiers. The Zionists assassinated anyone in their way, including the world-respected U.N. mediator, Count Folke Bernadotte, who dared to tell the world of the Zionist terror and murder campaign. A favorite tactic of the Irgun and Stern terrorist gangs was to kidnap British soldiers and slowly torture them to death. Israel was also the first nation to employ the modern terrorist technique of the letter bomb; and over the years sent out hundreds of them, killing dozens of their enemies and many bystanders all over the world. The current terrorism of mailing anthrax infected letters is simply a logical stepchild of the letter bomb.
    The terror of Deir Yassin
    What did the Zionist terrorists actually do at Deir Yassin and at other villages that caused the Palestinian people to flee in fear? A Red Cross doctor, Jacques de Reynier, chief representative of the International Committee of the Red Cross in Jerusalem gave a shocking account of the massacre in his official report.11

    De Reynier arrived at the village on the second day and saw “the mopping up,” as one of the Israeli terrorists put it to him. It had been done with machine guns, then grenades, and was finished off with knives. The Jews decapitated some of the victims and fatally maimed 52 children in sight of their mothers. They cut open 25 pregnant women’s wombs and butchered the babies in front of them.
    The commander of the Haganah unit that controlled Deir Yassin after the massacre, Zvi Ankori, made this statement in the Israeli newspaper Davar:
    I went into six to seven houses. I saw cut off genitalia and women’s crushed stomachs. According to the shooting signs on the bodies, it was direct murder.
    Since 1948, Palestinians have faced ongoing terrorism from Israel. Hundreds of villages have been obliterated and literally wiped from the map. Tens of thousands of homes have been bombed, bull-dozed or dynamited during peacetime! Tens of thousands of men, women and children have been killed. Even greater numbers have been blinded, crippled, disfigured and maimed. Hundreds of thousands have been imprisoned and/or tortured.
    Israel has also killed hundreds of Palestinian leaders by assassination and terroristic attacks.
    The double standards never seem to end. When an Israeli cabinet official, Rechavam Zeevi, was assassinated by Palestinians in October of 2001, Sharon and some U.S. officials denounced it as “terrorism.” If the shooting down of Zeevi is indeed terrorism, what should we call many years of Israeli assassinations of hundreds of Palestinian political figures, philosophers, clerics and poets? Why doesn”t the press point out that Zeevi was himself a Jewish Supremacist who described Palestinians living and working illegally in Israel as “lice” and a “cancer in our midst.14″ Zeevi himself was a terrorist who advocated the forcible expulsion of all Palestinians from the occupied territories and the assassination of all those who resist Israel occupation. He even publicly called for the assassination of Yassir Arafat. Yet, the same press that calls his assassination “terrorism” never calls the pro-assassination Zeevi a terrorist or even a Jewish Supremacist. The Zeevi assassination itself was in direct response to the Israeli assassination of a Palestinian leader a few weeks before.
    Qana, southern Lebanon - It was a massacre. Not since Sabra and Chatila had I seen the innocent slaughtered like this. The Lebanese refugee women and children and men lay in heaps, their hands or arms or legs missing, beheaded or disemboweled. There were well over a hundred of them. A baby lay without a head. The Israeli shells had scythed through them as they lay in the United Nations shelter, believing that they were safe under the world’s protection. Like the Muslims of Srebrenica, the Muslims of Qana were wrong.

    In front of a burning building of the UN’s Fijian battalion headquarters, a girl held a corpse in her arms, the body of a gray- haired man whose eyes were staring at her, and she rocked the corpse back and forth in her arms, keening and weeping and crying the same words over and over: “My father, my father.” A Fijian UN soldier stood amid a sea of bodies and, without saying a word, held aloft the body of a headless child.

    …When I walked towards them, I slipped on a human hand…

    Israeli terrorism against America

    In 1954, the Israeli government launched a secret operation of terror against the United States called Operation Suzannah. It plotted to murder Americans and blow up American installations in Egypt. Their plan was to leave false evidence that the Egyptians did it, so as to make America go to war against Egypt on the side of Israel. Jewish agents succeeded in blowing up some post offices and American libraries in Cairo and Alexandria. On the way to blow up an American movie house, the Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Theater, an Israeli’s agent’s bomb went off prematurely. Thankfully, for both Egypt and for America, the plot was then exposed and stopped in its early stages.
    Israel’s terrorist attack on the USS Liberty

    In 1967, during the Six Day War, Israel again committed a grievous terrorist act against the United States of America. On June 8, Israel used unmarked fighters and torpedo boats to launch an hour and one-half attack on the American Navy ship the USS Liberty, costing 34 American lives and 171 wounded.27 The Israelis first attacked the Liberty’s radio towers in an attempt to stop the Sixth Fleet from learning that the Israelis were the attackers. After unmarked Israeli fighters horrendously bombed and strafed the Liberty, Israel sent in torpedo boats to finish the job. They even machine gunned the deployed life rafts in an effort to ensure that there would be no survivors (witnesses) who could expose them.
  • threadmonitor · 4 months ago
    markhope,

    Long cut and paste comments like this one are not appropriate for our threads.

    I'll let this one stay, but please don't do it again.
  • markhope · 4 months ago
    ISRAEL IS THE BIGGEST TERRORIST IN THE WORLD BECAUSE OF THIS : Israel’s Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, is one of the world’s most bloodstained terrorists. He is responsible for the cold-blooded slaughter of at least 1,500 men, women and children MOSLEM AND CHRISTIAN in the Beirut refugee camps of Chatila and Sabra. Even a formal Israeli commission found Sharon personally responsible for the Lebanese massacres.4

    In 1982, as Israel’s defense minister, Sharon directed Israel’s invasion of Lebanon and the carpet bombing and devastation of the city of Beirut (In Lebanon five times more women and children died than in the September New York attack). This terror bombing was carried out by Jews using jet fighters and bombs supplied by the United States.

    In their effort to wrest control of Palestine from British control, the Zionists waged a campaign of relentless terror, including the bombing of the King David Hotel, which killed 93 people. They ruthlessly murdered British officials and soldiers. The Zionists assassinated anyone in their way, including the world-respected U.N. mediator, Count Folke Bernadotte, who dared to tell the world of the Zionist terror and murder campaign. Since 1948, Palestinians have faced ongoing terrorism from Israel. Hundreds of villages have been obliterated and literally wiped from the map. Tens of thousands of homes have been bombed, bull-dozed or dynamited during peacetime! Tens of thousands of men, women and children have been killed. Even greater numbers have been blinded, crippled, disfigured and maimed. Hundreds of thousands have been imprisoned and/or tortured. The terror of Israeli torture: at least 150,000 victims

    The brutal torture of thousands of one’s enemies must be classified as a particularly vicious form of terrorism. Tens of thousands of Palestinians have been tortured in Israeli jails. A Jewish human rights group in Israel confirmed in a 60-page report that 85% of Palestinian detainees undergo torture while in custody.17 And make no mistake about it; many of the tortures endured by these Palestinian victims are the stuff of one’s worst nightmares. Israeli torture includes everything from choking victims with urine and feces soaked bags tied over their heads, to using electric cattle prods for anal rape and mutilation. Israel often doesn’t even admit to who they are holding, so if they decide to kill or torture a Palestinian to death while he is in custody, his body will simply disappear, or they will later claim that they died in a battle with Israeli police before capture. Many thousands of Palestinians and Lebanese have died while in Israeli custody.
    Israel’s slaughter of civilians in this terrible 10-day offensive - 206 by last night - has been so cavalier, so ferocious, that not a Lebanese will forgive this massacre. There had been the ambulance attacked on Saturday, the sisters killed in Yohmor the day before, the 2-year-old girl decapitated by an Israeli missile four days ago. And earlier yesterday, the Israelis had slaughtered a family of 12 - the youngest was a four- day-old baby - when Israeli helicopter pilots fired missiles into their home.

    Shortly afterwards, three Israeli jets dropped bombs only 250 meters from a UN convoy on which I was traveling, blasting a house 30 feet into the air in front of my eyes. Traveling back to Beirut to file my report on the Qana massacre to the Independent last night, I found two Israeli gunboats firing at the civilian cars on the river bridge north of Sidon…In 1954, the Israeli government launched a secret operation of terror against the United States called Operation Suzannah. In 1967, during the Six Day War, Israel again committed a grievous terrorist act against the United States of America. Searching through hundreds of articles trying to track down the true Israeli death toll, I found a New York Times piece that clarified the precise number of Israelis who died in the World Trade Center attack. It turned out that of the 130 Israelis President Bush claimed had died in the World Trade Center, 129 of them were still alive. Only one Israeli had actually died. Does that make sense?
    FOR GOD SAKE, IF YOU CLAIM AS A HUMAN AND CHRISTIAN THEN YOU SHOULD DEFEND YOUR BROTHER FROM ISRAEL. BUT IF YOU ARE DEFEND ISRAEL THEN YOU MUST KNOW THAT YOU DEFEND THE ENEMY OF GOD.IF WE NOT START FIGHT ISRAEL THEN O DOUBT THAT THERE WILL BE ANOTHER WTC-WTC TRAGEDY THAT COMMITTED BY PALESTINIAN WHO HATE AMERICA BECAUSE OF AMERICA DOUBLE STANDARD.