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AMERICAblog: Sarah Palin just called herself an anti-Semite

  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    Ask John Stein, the Lutheran who was Jew-baited by Sarah's friends in the Wasilla mayoral race in '96, about Palin's little "problem" with people of the Hebrew Persuasion.
  • ProgressiveTroll · 1 year ago
    All of this shit is getting real scary. I was just reading all kinds of racist crap coming from Repubes and Palin. One guy in her audience screamed "kill him", not sure if the guy meant Ayers or Obama, but it doesn't really matter. This woman and her "campaign rallies" are turning into violence inciting and that's terrorism.
  • moreleesafer · 1 year ago
    hmmm maybe she will just cut to the chase and start reciting her note cards in German.
  • gwpriester · 1 year ago
    People should start showing up for Palin and McCain rallies wearing slickers and rain coats to protect their clothing from all the crap being hurled in their direction.
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    Anti-Semitism comes with the territory with the Alaska Firsters and the John Birchers Governor Winky has palled around with (and even f^cked).
  • Reason0Politics1 · 1 year ago
    karen... John Birch Society is about teaching the Constitution. Please don't lump that organization in with that crap, dear. teaching the Law of the Land is a bad thing? there may be some kooks that are anti semite in it, but those kooks are all over, including in our own liberal movement.
  • Sage24 · 1 year ago
    I wish the Obama surrogates would talk about this whenever the rethugs speak of Rev. Wright. It seems some people are easily taken by the hypocrisy always shown by the McCain camp. It seems the McCain/Palin partners have tons of poop on their head, but keep pointing the fingers at others for stinkin' up the place. I am sick of seeing Palin yellin' and winkin', and attackin'. She seems to be running for Miss Trailer Park, and not for VP.
  • ezpz · 1 year ago
    Excellent, John.

    Thank you for pointing out the double standards that are applied.
    Few (if any) in the msm dare 'go there' if it's not a Black Reverend that they're calling an America hating racist anti semite.
  • Reason0Politics1 · 1 year ago
    Great story John! The hypocracy of Palin may just show trough with this stuff, maybe.
  • Jim Olson · 1 year ago
    This won't go anywhere. It's just esoteric enough to need to be explained to the American voting public why this is a bad thing. Wright said "....damn America". Needs no explanation. The MSM will not take the time to point out why Sarah Palin sitting in church while an evangelical preacher condemns Israel and calls for the Jews to get out of banking and business is a bad thing. This one's a non-starter, I fear.
  • John Aravosis · 1 year ago
    Uh, are you nuts? :-) I don't give a damn what the MSM or the majority of Americans think. I care about the Jewish community finding out the truth about Sarah Palin's ties to anti-Semitism. No Jewish person out there is saying "eh, it needs to be explained, I don't care."
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    Right on! Salon.com quotes some very cranky Florida Jews today: "She stinks!" Florida could go Obama, thanks to the Jewish vote. And Wexler is a very influential mensch for Obama!
  • PeteWa · 1 year ago
    Pretty much agree, from what I've been reading, there are quite a few people who were planning on voting for McCain (god knows why) until he picked Palin.
    One of the many reasons (especially among those of Jewish ancestry) is Palin's documented Anti-Semitism.
    It's not a non-starter, it's already a brush fire.
  • AdrianBrowne · 1 year ago
    Bush and the Neocons like to say that the U.S. is based on Judeo-Christian ideals but Palin never included the "Judeo" part -- that's why the base likes her so much.
  • Rufus · 1 year ago
    She should keep it up -- every charge they make against Obama they have done worse. You betcha.
  • moreleesafer · 1 year ago
    <wink and hairtoss>
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    She quotes notorious anti-Semite Westbrook Pegler in her RNC acceptance speech. (Of course, she's too stupid to know who Pegler even is).
  • allainjules · 1 year ago
    Sarah Palin is anti-semite. Most people know that but, because Obama is "black" some people close their eyes.

    http://allainjulesblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/deb...
  • Verchiel · 1 year ago
    Completely hypocritical, but I don't think this battle will be won on hypocrisy.

    I think, *in general* we're better off calling out their lies for what they are and loudly decrying them for abandoning the issues that are on the voters' minds rather than getting into a tit-for-tat "you did this, too," scenario.

    By way of exception, the Keating situation is close enough to the financial crisis voters are sweating over to be worth exploring. Pastoral jackassery, not so much. It's a delicate balance between pushing back adequately and retaining the advantage we have on being focused on the issues.
  • John Aravosis · 1 year ago
    It's not about hypocrisy. It's about Jewish voters being informed of her and McCain's disturbing ties to anti-Semites. Unless you think Jewish voters don't have any influence. I would disagree.
  • Verchiel · 1 year ago
    I don't disagree that it's disturbing, I was referring more to the line of thought expressed a few posts prior: "every charge they make against Obama they have done worse."

    I'm just concerned that with repeated 400-600 pt market declines, I'd hate to see the campaign, itself, get too caught up in finger pointing. (Though, Hopefully the netroots and others will be able to work this into the traditional outlets.)

    As stated, earlier, I think the line of attack you, yourself, laid out this weekend has the most promise:

    "Every time McCain launches a negative ad, a negative attack, that has nothing to do with the economy, Obama can then see "see, I told you so - the man has no interest in talking about the economic crisis."
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    Total population of Alaska: 675,000.

    Total number of Jews in Alaska: 6,000.

    Percentage of Jews in Alaska's total population: <1%.

    Percentage of Jews in USA total population: 5%
  • HereinDC · 1 year ago
    Good Post John.

    I like the winks or brains.

    ( Would a wink or brains comfort you when the Stock Market drops 800 points?)
    ( Magna cum laude from Harvard or 894th out of 899 comfort you with a 800 point drop?)
  • lucky hussein · 1 year ago
    arrogance. hypocrisy. lies. thy name is republican...
  • Reason0Politics1 · 1 year ago
    Despite Bernanke’s assurances to the contrary, these bailouts mean tremendous inflation of the money supply. The U.S. can no longer avoid hyperinflation - it is here. The effects can hardly be overstated when the reserve currency of the world is debased so rapidly. Empires disintegrate and social upheaval occurs. Dollar depreciation is not apparent to the masses yet, but once the realization occurs, the social effect will be explosive. I believe this is why a U.S. Army brigade from the 3rd Infantry Division has been given orders to patrol America “to help with civil unrest and crowd control.
  • EmGD · 1 year ago
    There's good news. Now McCain can just dress up a toy poodle as Palin, have it bark into a microphone, and embarrass itself much less than Palin normally does. In fact, as long as dog-Palin never went to the witchcraft church it might be a positive boon for Johnny. McCain/Cute Palin Dog 08.

    http://thesebastards.blogspot.com/2008/10/now-y...
  • jescot · 1 year ago
    Very powerful posting. Lets not also forget McCains own hipocracy on this Church issue as well. He called the Evangelicals "agents of intolerance" and then ran to them for a big wet kiss when he started this race. He embaced Hagee! Pailn also represents hsi hipcracy even further because the only reason he picked her was to appeal to this seedy side of the Republican base.
    Why is it that if a white preacher says wacko koo koo bananas crap and they are afililiated with the Republican base we wink and nod as a soceity but oh boy a black preacher ....They are the "other" they are anti-american - Im sorry but anyone who wants the "end times" or doesnt want equal rights for all citizens of our country deserves heavy scrutiny. Amen !
  • Webster · 1 year ago
    Bible Spice's dogsled is a few puppies short of a team.
  • goodbyekitty · 1 year ago
    Bible Spice

    thats a good one
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    This is no exaggeration. I know right wing Bible thumpers who are flaming anti semites and will vote for candidates who favor teaching the Jews a lesson. They are not that far from Germany in the 1930s. They think it makes them righteous.

    So, what is Sarah Palin really condoning here? What about her secessionist husband who hates America?
  • ProgressiveTroll · 1 year ago
    And why hasn't he been arrested for refusing his subpoena????
  • clytemnestra · 1 year ago
    her actions (re: Muthee) also say that she's okay with persecuting innocent women, and the stoning of women accused of witchcraft .. because if the police hadn't intervened the crowd, whipped up by Muthee, would have stoned Mama Jane.

    As it was she fled, loosing her house, property and everything.. But has Palin said anything against this pastor or what he did? No! She accepted him laying hands on her and praying for her and credits him with helping her get elected.

    Innocent women all over Africa are loosing their lives because they are being labeled as witches.
  • missmarple · 1 year ago
    Pastor Muthee wants "Born Agains" in every area of our life, including schools, to indoctrinate our children and having them become "Devil Chasers" to drive anyone other than Christian out of their schools, so it's not just Jews they hate. She should never be given the chance to nominate Supreme Court Judges. Palin only left her Church when she felt it was politically advantageous to do so, but still retains strong links to them. She does nothing without measuring how it will help her advance politically.
  • cmpnwtr · 1 year ago
    Okay, John. So let's get this out there with the corporate media. Use your network!
  • nsr · 1 year ago
    Her last line's pretty telling too: "I guess that would be a John McCain call on whether he wants to bring that up.” Apparently, McCain's just some cranky old geezer she's putting up with because they're on the same "ticket", whatever that means.

    She can't just blab this stuff, then say she's speaking for herself. Either McCain wants her to talk like this, or he's not in control of his campaign's message. His call should be her call as well, and she's either pretending she doesn't know it, or saying she doesn't care.
  • JustAnOldLady · 1 year ago
    When will Wolf Blitzer report this?
  • BarrieT · 1 year ago
    A decent interval after never. Cafferty will have to bring it up somehow.
  • jsdc007 · 1 year ago
    "But, you know, I guess that would be a John McCain call on whether he wants to bring that up.” (Palin after she brings up the Wright issue)

    To which I say "Sarah Palin is a lousy mother and raised a 17 year old tart, but I guess that would be a Barack Obama call on whether he wants to bring that up."
  • mauro7inf · 1 year ago
    OK, I don't think this is a fair thing to say about her. (Which is not to say that unfair things shouldn't be said about her, given that unfair things are said about Obama all the time.) The pastor guy is crazy, and he may have some racist beliefs about Jews -- the whole banking thing -- but he was NOT actually saying that Jews are corrupt in that quote or pointing to some conspiracy. The racist stereotype is that Jews are good with money and are bankers. OK, he pretty much said that. But he didn't say that they were running everything and therefore the Christians need to step in because of all the corruption. On the contrary, he said that this thing about having people with integrity running things was what the Jews were already doing, and he called on Christians to do that as well. Racist? Sure. And yeah, Sarah Palin should have to answer for that. But that's nowhere near as bad as you're making it sound.
  • tas · 1 year ago
    How about the fact that Rev. Muthee is responsible for conducting witch hunts in Nigeria that have resulted in the deaths of women he accused of being witches? He prayed over Gov. Palin that she be protected from witchcraft. Does she believe in witches and witchcraft? Does she believe she needs protection from witches? does she believe it is the non-belief in Christ that is the reason Israel is bombed by terrorists? Time for the nasty wench to answer some questions about her past. How about failure to report the per diems she charges the people of Alaska to stay in her own home as taxable income like everyone else? Does income tax fraud disqualify her for office?

    riddle me this, Joker....
  • mauro7inf · 1 year ago
    I don't think you read what I said correctly. What I said was that Muthee's quoted words are not the racism (I view discrimination against Jews as racism) that John implies that they are. Just because I disagree on an attack on someone doesn't mean that I support that person. Yes, those words are racist, as I said, but not THAT racist.

    That said, yeah, she should definitely be excoriated for actually going onstage with a REALLY crazy pastor -- Jeremiah Wright wasn't that crazy, and I think he was even right in his criticism (which people go crazy about because, ZOMG, he criticized America!!!!!1), but Muthee is fucking out of his mind. Women accused of being witches? In Nigeria, CHILDREN are accused of being witches, and they're beaten, kicked out of their homes, and much, much worse in an effort to rid society of their evil witch presence. Of course, I don't think that she actually believes the witch stuff, but if she wants to tie Obama to Wright, she better be tied to Muthee.

    Does income tax fraud disqualify her for office? I don't know, actually. If she were running for president, no, it wouldn't, because the president has immunity unless he or she is found guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors by the Congress (I'm pretty sure, anyway). If the American people want to vote for someone who's committed tax fraud, as far as I remember, that's fine. I would hope that the American people aren't THAT dumb, though.
  • goodbyekitty · 1 year ago
    Hmmmm....

    Palin is an insane/irrational christianist with ties to the Third-wave Dominionists, and yes, she is an anti-semite. remember folks, the only reason the uberchristians support Israel is because of the role they are purported to play in the christianists end-times scenario. Their support has absolutely nothing to do with any love of jews
  • mauro7inf · 1 year ago
    I sure hope I'll get to be one of the 144,000 that gets into Heaven with the Christians!

    But OK, let's get one thing straight. Anti-Semitism is a fancy word for racism against Jews. It has nothing to do with the Jewish religion. It does have to do with believing that Jews have a secret cabal running the world, that Jews have horns, that Jews make matzot with the blood of gentile children. The belief that Jews are an inferior race, that we should be "clean" of them, etc. The Muslim religious texts prescribe dhimmi status to Jews, but this is not anti-Semitism specifically; it's just discrimination against other religions -- if anything, Jews and Christians get a special privileged status among non-Muslim religions. Christians, likewise, may believe that Jews are inferior -- because they aren't Christians, not because they're Jews specifically -- but that they're necessary for whatever it is Johnny dreamed one day, so they need to be kept around, etc. And everyone agrees that the Jewish vote is important in Florida, which is key to winning the Presidency, so everyone has to pander about being friends with Israel and so on. That's not anti-Semitism, really. Religionism, sure, but not anti-Semitism.

    The pastor dude said something that IS anti-Semitic, or, in other words, racist against Jews specifically. However, it has almost none of the power John ascribes to it! I mean, just read the quote! And as for the other guy, I had missed that quote earlier, but if you read the Bible, it says the same thing. The first couple of chapters of Jeremiah are all about why the people of Judah are sinful and deserve to be punished. So if you think some group of people is doing something bad, then you may think they deserve punishment. There's nothing wrong with that if you consider the Bible. We secularists disagree completely, and there's some loving god if people believe in gods, whatever, but anyone who takes the Bible seriously, if not literally, would believe the same thing -- sinners deserve punishment if they don't repent. That's not anti-Semitic. It's stupid, but not anti-Semitic.

    We know she's an insane Christianist, and I'm sure she seriously believes in some of the less extreme stuff they say (not the witches, I hope!), but to say that she thinks the Jews are why the banking system is corrupt is a bit much from the information shown here.
  • smallhandff · 1 year ago
    Isn't it remarkable that people decry the inherent anti semitism in the Republican party but the neocons haven't abandoned the Republicans.
    Kristol makes chit chat w Palin. Hagee gets AIPAC & Joe Lieberman to speak at his recent convention. Perhaps the Likudniks really know who butters their matzos.
  • Logikal1 · 1 year ago
    You have just put a huge nail into the coffin of that dimglow Palin, and, by association, McCain. Along with her joining the pastor against Jews, we have the video of her being prayed over to keep her free of witches and witchcraft. There is a video of her with three people with their hands upon Sarah Palin, while the preacher screams out "we pray in the name of Jeeeezuuuss that Saaaraahhh Paaahlinnn be freee of witches! Lord, don't let the power of the devil have any power over Sarahhhh in the formmm of witchcraft or spells while she runs for office! We puhray this in the hooolllyyyy nammmmeeeee of Jeeeeezzzuuuus! " This went on for a good 10 minutes.

    I cannot believe people think a US Senator is a hidden Muslim terrorist, considering ALL senators are given a thorough security check by the CIA and the FBI BEFORE they are let in on any of the high level meetings, briefings and information they must take care of as part and parcel of their job.

    [ for anyone who hasn't been through a high level security check me tell you, it's brutal. They don't just ask you questions, they go to your neighborhood, knock on doors, and talked to everyone who could possibly know you. They talk to the children in the neighborhood, they talk to the adults. They talk to people you know, they talk to your boss, they talk your coworkers. They talk to the teachers you had in high school; they talk to the teachers who knew you in grade school


    They talk to your pastor, they talk your congregation. They talk to everyone who could possibly have any interactions with you. Ex spouses, girlfriends and boyfriends all get to talk. (so, if you're planning to work in high level government work, be nice to your ex'es)

    They do a credit check; they check into everything in your background that could possibly impact your dealings with human being on this planet. So, If you think a terrorist could slip by that kind of a security check, you're dead

    The reason the Republicans are playing the terrorist targets because they have run out of ideas, they've run out of anything to campaign on, they made such a hash of the economy that nobody would believe them on bad if they had three Bibles in their hand. And, the biggest fear they have is the public is going to to realize John McCain has early Alzheimer's [he forgets key concepts like the difference between Shiite and Sunni, he forgot twice we are at war in Afghanistan; he offered his wife for a 'beauty pageant' in Sturgis which includes nudity and sex acts, he stumbles on words and talks gibberish when he doesn't have a script in front of him, and, biggest proof of all, he picked Palin as his Veep afte meeting her only twice briefly]. If nothing else, McCain has had malignance skin cancer 4 times and this disease is one that recurs frequently and often is fatal. Hell, he's 72! Should any of these things happen, [dementia, cancer, stroke or heart attack] Sarah Palin would very likely be the president - and within a very short time.

    If that doesn't scare the hell out of you, nothing will.
  • msieger · 1 year ago
    I am a Jewish believer in Jesus. Most blogs and news services have quoted the same one paragraph of the six-page transcript of the message that David Brickner of Jews for Jesus delivered at Sarah Palin’s church, giving the false impression that he is saying that a bulldozer attack by a deranged Palestinian is God’s judgment on the Jewish people. Please read or listen to the entire message for yourself at www.jewsforjesus.org/blog/20080817 so that you can hear Brickner’s remarks in context. Please also take a look at Brickner’s comments concerning his message at Wasilla Bible Church, as well as interviews by Christianity Today and MSNBC with Brickner about this issue, at www.jewsforjesus.org. Among other things, Brickner says, "The comments attributed to me were taken out of context. The notion that the terrorist, bulldozer attack in Jerusalem this summer was God’s judgment on Israel for not believing in Jesus, is absolutely not what I believe. In retrospect, I can see how my rhetoric might be misunderstood and I truly regret that . . . . Let me be clear. I don’t believe that any one event whether a terrorist attack or a natural disaster is a specific fulfillment of or manifestation of a Biblical prediction of judgment. I don’t believe that the newspaper should be used to interpret the Bible. The Bible interprets the Bible. I love my Jewish people and the land of Israel. I stand with and support her against all efforts to harm her or her people in any way."