DISQUS

jr · 1 year ago

Dixiecrat Hillary won't stop until we get 0 percent of the African American vote

osage · 1 year ago

The damage of this political "mistake" is much worse than Dukakis's tank ride, Kerry's hunting garb or Dean's screams. Making the statement she made without instantly clarifying it was either an unforgivably bad miscalculation or an incredibly flawed decision. By not explaining what she said right after she said it, she left herself open to the conclusions of others that it was a deliberate calculated attempt to raise the specter of Obama's assassination. And then attempting to explain it after being called on it without seeming to grasp how totally inappropriate it was, and only apologizing to the Kennedy's, was astonishingly clueless and insensitive to the feelings of those who have legitimately feared that a black man running for the presidency might be an assassination target. Her statement was either the most dastardly evil or unforgivably thoughtless comment I've ever heard a Democratic politician utter. Her mechanical misdirected apology was even more incomprehensible and inconsiderate than her original comment.

msirt · 1 year ago

A new addition to the lexicon: The "A word".

General_Washington · 1 year ago

Actually Joe, some people will need a context. And will need it hammered every day until these damned Super Delegates - and Clintonistas - get the message that us sane people have had enough.

Starting with why it's so especially heinous in the context of Barack Obama (because she sure as hell wasn't talking about anyone else).

The death threats that are directly related to the fact he required Secret Service protection earlier than any candidate in history.

The tie-in with her constant race-baiting, leading to that local newpaper cover in Georgia, featuring Senator Obama in a gunsight.

The fact that she said the exact same thing back in early March, made further (but veiled) references to RFK and Obama in the same breath when she realised it wasn't a good idea to go there again, and then decided it was out of desperation.

And - most importantly - the rationale behind why she said it. To put the fear of god in the Super's and voters that this guy may have the potential to be a great President, but there's also the potential he's going to die before he gets that chance.

That sicko (and her piece of shit husband) needs to go and soon. She ain't going to go anywhere by us sitting back and waiting for something to make that happen - again...

BorninUSA · 1 year ago

Just had to listen to McAuliffe on Fox this morning. He says Hillary does not need to apologize to Obama for her remarks because she wasn't talking about him. She won't apologize because she didn't do anything wrong. Wallace said that when Huckabee made those remarks about someone taking a shot at Obama he called Obama personally and apologized. Wallace asked shouldn't Hillary what with all the uproar about her remarks call Obama and apologize. Not according to McAuliffe! According to McAuliffe the majority of the people aren't upset about the remarks. This man is such a hack! McAuliffe also is sure that after FL and MI meet on Friday with the committee they will decide whether or not to count the delegates and put Hillary ahead??? He also would not say that if they don't vote the way Hillary wants whether or not she will, as she and McAuliffe have both said, take it to the convention. McAuliffe also denied that Bill said he thinks Hillary has the right to be on the ticket with Obama. Sadly too many people believe these lies.

tbhull · 1 year ago

Her comments, the content, the context and the insight into her Machiavellian approach speak alone with out spin. The histrionic salve provided by Clinton's supporters to to sooth the gaping wound created by these words (given at the top of their lungs with veins bulging out of their necks) cannot heal the wound. As a matter of fact, the harder Clinton tries to undo the damage it just reminds everyone again of the truth of the words and tears the scab off. Game over again.

OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago

OK, even if you give Clinton the benefit of the doubt which many (including myself) are loathe to do, she doesn't seem to understand the word "perception" in her choice of expression. She was careless in her use of words on many occasions, most of which people are already familiar with. And this was the last straw for many, the final nail in her candidacy.

My view is that no serious Dem candidate who had the good of the country at heart would have ever used her phrasing. The right has the patent on twisting words and phrases, using out of context, etc. I suppose a psychiatrist could call it a "freudian slip" of some type, but for a rational person to bring up the whole subject of assassination, stir up sad memories, is just plain stupidity on their part.

Savage8862 · 1 year ago

The thought of having a convention battle, as it looked like it was going to be a possibility, between Republicans was so thrilling to us Democrats a few short months ago, that the possibility of it happening to us never crossed our minds. I am hoping that we are stronger Democrats because of this battle, but I am fearful.

OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago

Yes, the Clintons ARE playing the fear card, and that's been obvious since February when she found out she wouldn't have a slam dunk nomination...

Indigo · 1 year ago

I repent of my role in misleading Hillary and her enablers and resolve never again to tempt her or her enablers into saying inappropriate or foolish things nor to vote for anyone she ever endorses lest I lead them also into malfesance and sin. Amen.

tbhull · 1 year ago

Anything can happen. This little fiasco ensures Clinton will remain the junior Senator from New York and will not be Obama's VP. Thus, my biggest fear has been eliminated, namely, that Clinton will be president in any circumstance given her actions and word durring the course of her campaign. Hillay Clinton has become the next Barbara Bush.

shrrrr · 1 year ago

Her position as junior Senator of New York can be lost if she continues on this tact. The New York papers, all of them, are ripping mad at her right now. The way she has invoked the tragic loss of a past junior Senator from New York will never be forgotten. Once they, the editorial boards, hate someone or something its hard to recover. They will be relentless.

tbhull · 1 year ago

Maybe the Clintons can move back to Arkansas.

Savage8862 · 1 year ago

Senator Durbin just called Senator Graham to the carpet about his involvement with the 527 group running negative ads against Obama while he Graham serves on John McCain's campaign. Graham lied and said he is not involved in the 527.

naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago

I'm glad Sen. Durbin has taken the high road over this "A" fiasco, but I wish he, and others including Obama himself, would not go overboard on political correctness. He made some remark that Obama and Clinton are friends. Bullshit. Any normal human being would loathe her for all she's done, not just to Obama and the party currently, but to Gore, Kerry, Edwards and Dean in the past to push herself for 2008. Being neutral is taking the high road enough, and cut the friendship crap, please.

Andyz · 1 year ago

She's turning into George Bush.

naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago

Hopefully there are only 9 more days of this to go, but I've said things like that before and have been proved wrong. Jimmy Carter said in London that once the last primary is over, the superdelegates will come out and signal to Clinton that it's over. I don't expect the rules committee to grant her request next Saturday, but even if it did, I think the superdelegates would all come out for Obama, not her. Obama is the nominee no matter what she does. (The agony has seemed endless though.)

hawkseye · 1 year ago

Thanks for saying this. Well put.

DAR_Progressive · 1 year ago

I agree, this campaign seems endless!

I remember a few years ago asking friends what they'd be willing to do... if they'd barter a root canal for GWB's resignation, if it would be worth it, and everybody said yes, without hesitation.

A root canal would be a small price to pay for HRC to concede tomorrow. (It feels like you're getting one hearing her speak anyway.) I'd even listen to "My Sherona" during the appointment.

Cripes, I'd even throw in a colonoscopy!

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

She totally Bushian.

Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 1 year ago

She's added contact lenses and a better hair do, but this is the same pit bull bitch who used to pull sorts of shit at Yale Law school in the seventies to get ahead.

Do you know the difference between a rabid pit bull and Hillary???
Nailpolish.

Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago

No matter how much lipstick you apply a pig is still a pig!
And she is still a lying racist bitch and a monster!

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

She's not even technically right.

RFK didn't enter his first primary until May.

KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago

She says she made an apology for the "pain" remarks caused; yet, if they were innocuous, why would she "apologize"? (It was, in fact, a classic non-apology apology). Her follow-on statement is a tissue of contradictions and lies. Also, if she did nothing wrong why did she spend the rest of Friday (including the flight back East from SD, in which she sat alone) mired in her own shame (according to the NYT). The final paragraph of the Daily News article seem to signal that she is going to demand the Veep slot.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

And why wouldn't she apologize to the guy whose life she was threatening, unless she wanted to keep his mind focused on getting whacked.

hawkseye · 1 year ago

Hillary and her staff's remarks about the assassination speculations have served to keep the subject alive, as planned.

Ben Dover · 1 year ago

At this point Hillary is unfit to be a sitting United States Senator.

Other than stepping aside in her maniacal quest for the nomination, she should seriously consider stepping down from the Senate. She has demonstrated her inability to make the right decisions (i.e. Iraq vote, blatant racism, RFK remarks, etc.) and the voters of New York should remove her in the next senatorial election.
Hillary Clinton is bad for New York, bad for the Democratic Party and bad for America. Go away Hillary, and take Bill with you.

Obama '08!

tbhull · 1 year ago

That is left up to the fine people of New York.

naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago

And they're stuck with her for four years no matter what they would like to do.

Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago

I agree completely Ben, but I have been increasingly curious as to how actual residents of New York state feel on this issue. Do they think she should resign or do they want to keep her?

OBAMA '08--Yes we can!

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

And Bubba didn't enter his first primary in '92 until the third week in February.

You can't say "it's just the same as 68 and 92" when the primaries started so much earlier this time around.

She's either an idiot, a liar, or both.

Politically_Anonymous · 1 year ago

I think Hillary and her supporters are missing the point. No one honestly believes that Hillary is advocating the assassination of her opponent. She sounds more like a vulture waiting for something "dramatic" to happen. Or more likely she is clutching at straws to justify to her supporters and to herself her staying in the race.

Personally, I don't see any reason for her to drop out before the last primary in early June. We've come this far and it would be foolish not to let South Dakota and Montana vote.

But what Hillary and all of her supporters are missing is the sheer and utter stupidity of her remark. There is no justification for going this far off message. This becomes just another example of her campaign's lack of foresight. This was not an off the cuff remark. Hillary has referenced the Kennedy assassination in the past on several occasions as a reason for staying in the race. Yet no one on her campaign, not even her husband, warned her about referencing this tragedy. It is unbelievable that no one has told her that if something were to indeed happen to Senator Obama, he would become the most prominent name on that old list of people that the Clinton's had killed. (You know the one that Richard Mellon Scaife's minions circulated via email. The one that starts with Vince Foster.) The Right Wing Tin Foil Hat Brigade would send emails to everyone's aunts and uncles across the country.

dommyluc · 1 year ago

I know everyone is trying to be civil on the blogs like we are told to but
FUCK YOU, HILLARY
Just in case anyone has trouble understanding what I REALLY meant and won't misconstrue my statement and "take my words out of context", let me repeat:
FUCK YOU, HILLARY
Isn't it funny that a dumbass like me can make my meaning crystal clear when I make a statement but a consummate politician like Hillary Clinton has to explain her statements over and over and over?
She knows that Obama has her by the throat, and she had better know it's over. He can destroy her future political career, and if she or the people in her campaign don't realize that, she REALLY doesn't deserve to be Prez, simply on the basis of her absolute stupidity and cluelessness.
Once again, for the hard of hearing:
FUCK YOU, HILLARY!!!

naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago

I am so dying to say that but on the Clinton website and on blogs like Taylor Marsh and TalkLeft where my comments would probably not be posted. We are preaching to the choir here.

Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago

I agree dommyluc. It seems like each day Hil is trying to show the public that there is no depth to which she will not stoop into the gutter her increasingly invalid claims to be a presidential candidate. She has already descended below her whoremonger hubby. One of the worst examples was the way she spread her legs for Richard Mellon Scaife and his right wing accomplices. And yes the Clintons did effectively pimp out their daughter for political gain. Now come these scandalous and shameful remarks in South Dakota and her insincere and rambling "apology." She has become worse than a street-walking crack-whore, doing and saying anything to attempt to avoid the truth of her situation.
What makes it all worse is that to this day, as far as I know, there has been NO action or even comment from the gutless wonders who supposedly constitute the Democratic leadership: Dean, Reid, and Pelosi. And their sad lack of comment shows them all equally guilty. No person of any intelligence can possibly support this lying, racist, greedy bitch-monster.

FUCK YOU HILLARY!!! and the gutless leadership for not taking you out in a quick and efficient manner!

dommyluc · 1 year ago

Oh, and where is that heartfelt but suspiciously phony apology to Obama and his family? Oh, yeah. I forgot. It's Hillary Clinton. She doesn't have to apologize like us mere mortals do when we do wrong to other people.
FUCK YOU, HILLARY!!!

mista · 1 year ago

It took some doing, but I now view the Clintons with the same contempt that I have for the Bushes. That is quite an accomplishment, Hillary.

clytemnestra · 1 year ago

Actually she blames John, he broke the story after all ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAGhA918glY

John Aravosis · 1 year ago

LOL Well, the NY Post broke the story, but I think we may have been the first blog to get it - I think we may have even beat Drudge. And Joe and I had the story for ten+ minutes before we wrote about it because we simply couldn't believe that she mentioned assassination. We refused to link to the story because we didn't believe it. That's how off-limits this kind of language is.

Bubbles · 1 year ago

"She-Bush" or "Fem-George"

clytemnestra · 1 year ago

Senator - never mind the implications of using the word "assassination" in any connection to Senator Obama...

What about you?

You cannot say this!

The references, said her spokesperson, were not, in any way, weighted.

The allusions, said Mo Uh-leathee, are, "...historical examples of the nominating process going well into the summer and any reading into it beyond that would be inaccurate and outrageous."

I'm sorry.

There is no inaccuracy.

Not for a moment does any rational person believe Senator Clinton is actually hoping for the worst of all political calamities.

Yet the outrage belongs, not to Senator Clinton or her supporters, but to every other American.

Firstly, she has previously bordered on the remarks she made today...

Then swerved back from them and the awful skid they represented.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24797758/

vwcat · 1 year ago

But, isn't that the Clinton way. To blame everyone else for their own responsibility and gaffes and nastiness. Everything they have done that was beyond the pale or wrong is always someone else's fault. never theirs.
The phrase The Buck Stops Here is unknown to them.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

Yes, very Bushian.

AngelaChanning · 1 year ago

Almost every person I know would be absolutely mortified if they said something like Hillary's remarks, even if there was no malicous intent. I can remember mistaking the partner of someone I just met as his father as I misunderstood the introduction. I was embarrased and apologized profusely. I couldn't imagine how I would feel if I said something so hurtful, so wrong as Hillary did. She is beyond shameless. Her meglomania is disturbing. Thank you for listening.

JesseBHolmes · 1 year ago

I'm a Barack Obama supporter, but I don't understand why you all seem intent on painting Hillary Clinton as some sort of malevolent goon. I thought it was pretty clear from the start that she was actually suggesting that Obama was under any threat; she was talking about LATE PRIMARIES, which that was an example of. This is the sort of silly sound-byte politics that Mr. Obama says we need to desert.

By the way, I thought Clinton's NY Daily News article was excellent. If she didn't have malicious intent and was misinterpreted, why shouldn't she say that?

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

Well, her analogy is dumb anyway, because Bubba's first primary in 92 wasn't until the third week of February and RFK's wasn't until May.

Hillary's contests started in the first week of January.

JesseBHolmes · 1 year ago

Agreed. It may have been disingenous, but it wasn't a veiled suggestion that Obama might be in danger.

AngelaChanning · 1 year ago

She should say that she did not have malicous intent but she should have offered a sincere, profuse apology. At best, she is demonstrating that she is politically tone deaf. I don't want to go into the "At worst" category. However, one half of the Clintons once parsed the word "is". When her husband repeatedly engaged in shenanigans (or harrassment, if you dare), she has defended him, most famously with her vast, right wing conspiracy comments.

Any human being that says something even in innocence and then realizes they have hurt someone, gives a sincere apology. I remember asking a coworker about her baby and did not know the adoption fell through. I was horrified --absolutely horrified. That is how human beings react to their mistakes. Sadly, yes, I am implying Hillary needs to improve on her humanity. Thank you for listening.

John Aravosis · 1 year ago

Exactly. Much of the country just thought you wished your opponent dead. That merits a sincere apology, not an angry "you made me do it."

DAR_Progressive · 1 year ago

It’s astonishing that the Dem leadership hasn’t taken HRC’s keys away from her yet. She’s drunk with power and maybe something even more dangerous than that. Kudos to Obama for letting her live the consequences of her own maniacally flapping jaws. The comparison between the two candidates could not be any more telling than these past 48 hours.

America is in need of serious anger management if the news of school shootings etc is any indication. As if on cue, here comes Hillary: Her spurs dragging on the saloon floor, hands on the 6-shooters of her own calculating “spin”, a politically motivated opportunist totally lacking in moral center. Teaching people to bully their way into power, months, MONTHS after the voters told her no. HRC could not be any more wrong for the country now than the man in the moon.

I graduated from high school the month Bobby was shot. Anybody with a soul would never utter the "a" word during an election year. When you’re tired, you tend to say what you mean. What a creepy revelation into her irreparable “gimme” character.

We don’t need her grim inferences or her smirking excuses (who does that smirk remind you of?) anywhere NEAR the White House. Including the VP slot. Howard Dean, where are you?

Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago

DAR... this is the best comment in this entire thread!

hawkseye · 1 year ago

"When you’re tired, you tend to say what you mean."

Yes, and others in the campaign have alluded to the "anything can happen" gambit.

Quite_Contrary · 1 year ago

Have to wonder how often Hill and Bill have engaged in a bit of pillow talk about how something "unfortunate" happening to Obama could help clear her way [back] to the White House.

lov446 · 1 year ago

Quite-Contrary, who was it that ended up dead in the first weeks of his Presidency? There was a lof of speculation that they had him killed, now I believe it! Vince Foster, I just remembered! I use to be a big fan of the Clintons, but I soon saw the truth about them, hate hate them now, they are satan's followers!

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

On the bright side, the pressure is totally off Obama to pick her as Veep now.

Would you pick a Veep who everyone thinks is waiting for you to get killed?

Say good night, Hillary.

Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago

TAKE YOUR WHOREMONGER HUSBAND AND GO HILLARY!

YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MotorCityBadBoy · 1 year ago

According to Wolfson it's Obama's fault that Hillary made the comments... Obama also "inflamed" the incident by calling it unfortunate. These people are delusional.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

And, if she really wanted to get on Obama's ticket, you'd think she would have apologized to him

Obviously, Bubba is trying to push her into a Veep slot that she probably doesn't even want.

bachelard · 1 year ago

Oh brother. Even RFK Jr. said he understood Hillary's comment because of the context. He urged others to lighten up. But rabid Hillary opponents are determined to turn this into her "Jeremiah Wright moment" or her "bitter moment." And you want Howard Dean to yank her out of the race for the same reason people claimed Obama's candidacy was dead. Chill, people.

mirth · 1 year ago

RFK, Jr has said that if Hillary is elected, he intends to run for her Senate seat. It has also been suggested that he would head the EPA in a Clinton administration. So he, perhaps, has less than honorable motivations for his defense of her awful statement.

bachelard · 1 year ago

You mean....political reasons? How is the objection to her remark any more or less political? Nobody with a brain thinks she meant what people here are accusing her of. The remark is just as dumb as Obama saying all the smalltown white folks were bitter, but that's it.

hawkseye · 1 year ago

She said it twice and people in her campaign have echoed the sentiments. That's a fact.

mirth · 1 year ago

I suspect that RFK, Jr's defense of Hillary has more to do with his personal ambitions than it does about "politics." Hillary's reckless and devastating remark, coupled with her race-baiting and outright lying, evidences her unfitness for the presidency. I also believe that Obama's "bitter" remark was not only righton, it was unusually brave and astute for a politician.

Quite_Contrary · 1 year ago

Even RFK, who's endorsed her?

BorninUSA · 1 year ago

I was a little upset when a good friend (and a repug) recommended and loaned me the book, "Unlimited Access" about the Clintons days in the White House. But I read it and now I truly believe every single word of it! I was upset because I stood up for the Clintons all through their problems back then and thought they were being unjustly condemned. How wrong I was!!! This couple is beyond contempt. Their whole political lives have been on the backs of others. I cannot stand either one of them. I do not want to see them back in the White House. A nastier pair does not exist in my estimation.

lov446 · 1 year ago

BorninUSA: Congratulations, you are so right on!

davidkc · 1 year ago

When you have to write an op-ed to explain why you're still in the race, then that's a good sign that it's way past time to concede. Hillary is increasingly becoming a big joke, and taking the Dems right along with her.

John Aravosis · 1 year ago

When you have to write an op ed to explain that you aren't pining for your opponent's assassination, then that's a good sign that it's way past time to concede.

Ann_in_KC · 1 year ago

Good point davidkc. Digging deeper and all that.

jamal49 · 1 year ago

More "piling on" Hillary. Her remark to me was a non-sequitir. It had nothing to do with anything. I furrowed my brow and thought "what the h*ll does that mean? Of course, immediately, everybody--right, left, Dem, Repub, up, down and all around, just piled on this woman and attacked her with a fury that is unprecedented in American politics. Sexism is alive and well. As for the poster who says "Unlimited Access", um, "changed his mind" about the Clintons, please keep in mind this: "Unlimited Access" is a "hit job" with very little truth and lots of innuendo, very little documentation and lots of inferred sources. It's a poor piece of "journalism" and will quickly go into the trash bin of political reporting.

zavlin · 1 year ago

You dont seem to understand. Theres no sexism with this one. ANYONE who quotes a political assassination while trying to explain why theyr in a race is commiting political hara-kiri. It doesnt matter what she meant, her words were cold and tasteless and a clear sign that she will never be able to win a general election.

jamal49 · 1 year ago

Dear friend,

I personally think Hillary showed very poor judgment in the remarks she
made. Very, very poor judgment. As I have said, my first reaction was "HUH?" I
still am not certain the point she was trying to make and it seems a
non-sequitir (sp?), but in the context of THIS particular campaign it was a "DUH!"
moment. I admire Sen. Clinton. She is one of my two Senators from NY. I like her
much more than I do that d*ckhead, Charles Schumer (although I did NOT vote
for Clinton in 2000 because I felt she was a "carpet-bagger" by running from
NY instead of her own state of Arkansas (where there was also an open Senate
seat; she knew that the big publicity would always come from being a NY
Senator; ergo I voted for her opponent, the young but not-so-bright Rick Lazio).

Regardless, the media reaction has been "over the top". Why? Because, the
media has pretty much called the shots on this primary season. They've gotten
great mileage and lots of advertising dollars out of the Democratic primary.
It's a farce. But, they want Clinton out of there and so they jumped all over
her statements and created a "firestorm" where none really needed to be.

My opinion was, and is, that the media coverage of Hillary Clinton in this
campaign has been blatantly sexist. Look at Chris (Tweety) Matthews. Look at
Keith (pompous, who me?) Olbermann. Look at Tim
(scratch-my-back-I'll-scratch-yours-and-I-won't-ask-tough-questions) Russert. Ironically, the news channel
that has been most fair to Sen. Clinton has been FOXNews!

This over-reaction to ill-advised remarks from Sen. Clinton IS sexist and it
IS manipulative by a news media that wants to "move on (.org)" and declare
Obama the winner and then tear HIM apart. The media bias will be pro-McCain, no
matter what anyone else thinks.

Again, Sen.Clinton's remarks re: RFK were just dumb. But, the media reaction
is nothing less than spiteful sexism by a medium that is still
male-dominated and whose advertising sponsors still promote the image of women as
something to ogle, to patronize, and to dismiss as serious whenever possible.

I appreciate your feedback. May you have a WONDERFUL day today.

MJ




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zavlin · 1 year ago

The thing is, i just dont buy that the reaction to those comments wouldv been different for anyone. Those comments wouldv made a media firestorm no matter who it was. The media has been absolutely rediculous, but i dont believe sexism is a real factor, if anything hillary has shown what little obstacle sexism really is for a presidential election. But what really irks me, is how willing clinton is to come out and play the sexism card. Even if the campaign was full of sexism she needs to focus on the issues for why shes the best canidate and win on the merits. Instead shes in desperation mode, and its going to leave her supporters with a sense of resentment when she does lose. And to tell you the truth id like to see a scenario where she can win without causing a civil war within the party, it would give me some peace of mind, but its just not there. She better think 5 times over before contesting or appealing anything, because appeals and contesting the election is the only way she can make any sort of headway.

John Aravosis · 1 year ago

Yeah, I mean, who hasn't talked about hijackings while in the security line at the airport. I'm sure you'll call the TSA guy, as he dragging you away to Gitmo, a sexist objecting to your discussion of historical fact. I'm starting to wonder what isn't sexist to you people?

KISSman · 1 year ago

Like George W. Bush, she doesn't make mistakes.

I honestly do believe she is waiting for an incident of any kind so that she can become the nominee. Sometimes the truth just sneaks out of your lips when you are internally comfortable with a thought or a notion that others might not feel as comfortable with.

pjtbos · 1 year ago

Will you please knock it off. Whether you like this woman or not, she has never been the enemy. You talk abou the destruction being done to the Democratic brand by the negativism...well stop getting spastic every time she says someting you don't like

John Aravosis · 1 year ago

Stop being mean to the mean person!

lov446 · 1 year ago

pjtbos: If Barack had come out and said, that an assassination of his opponent could get him the nomination, can you imagine the outrage?!! Because Clinton said it, and said it before, it is ok. If Barack had gone to Fl. and MI. and received the votes there, even though he agreed that they didn't count, but now that he is behind and Clinton is ahead, he wants the rules changed to get those votes counted so he could still win, come on the outrage would be so loud he would be run out of town, not to mention the presidential race!! Talk about unfairness, people bend over back-wards for the Clintons, no matter how many times they stab people in the back!! Give us a break!!

KansasModerate · 1 year ago

I find it very interesting that a reporter who was present when Hillary made the statement and who broke the story says it was very clear to him and others that the assassination reference was made purely to emphasize the fact that in June that year there was still a contested primary battle.

But the Democratic left comes in for the kill like sharks and distorts whatever Hillary says or does. The left, including its whores in the media, has decided it's OK to trash a woman but everyone has to be politically correct when it comes to a black candidate.

lov446 · 1 year ago

KansasM. Wow! you must have a very simple-mind to believe all that! You are the very kind of supporter that the Clinton are counting on in order to fool!!

KISSman · 1 year ago

The left: a a group of people that is lopsidedly female is sexist? C'mon now.

We've all seen elements of racism during this campaign (something Obama has not whined about), while many people are scratching their heads wondering where the sexism has been. Where are the notable instances?

Oh, Obama said, "You're likeable enough Hillary." He just as easily could have said the very same thing to John Edwards and it would have left some with the same mixed feelings about it. But the fact that some women interpreted that comment in a demeaning way, they also call it sexist.

A jab comment (if it really was one) is different than a sexist comment unless it is clear that such a thing was specificly demeaning to a woman. If Hillary said, "You're likeable enough Barack" in the same exact way, it would NOT have been seen as racist.

The only people citing sexism are people who want to see it even if it isn't there. Hillary and some of her supporters are whining about it now because they can't make sense of what went wrong so instead of the candidate taking the blame, let's blame it on sexism. Yeah, OK.

mirth · 1 year ago

This feminist sez: Excellent comment, KISSman.

Oddly, those screeching "Sexist" don't have much of a problem with blatant racism.

One trick p(h)onies.

empireofno · 1 year ago

god good the frothing at the mouth obama backers really do need to step back and look at the long-term damage they are doing to the democratic party. their campaign of endless character assassination and endless WWTSBQ comments is only assuring the republicans will win yet again in this of all years. just get a frigging grip.

rduke · 1 year ago

I cannot believe how low this woman will go. Nothing is below her. I seriously think she is as vile and disgusting as W. I cannot even look at her. This coming from someone who has stood up for the clintons for the last 15 years. Never again.

To say I am dissappointed that a Democratic presidential nominee is behaving this way is an understatement. But even more dissappointing are her supporters. They make excuses for HIllary the way the neocons make excuses for W. How dissappointing to discover that many members of our party are no better and no different than neocons. Anything Hillary says or does is acceptable and they always have the excuse book open.

What a sad state of affairs.

ekwhite · 1 year ago

I have even gone so far as to listen to the "in context" version posted on HillaryIs44 (trust me, you do NOT want to got there) - it is clear to me she was referencing the possibility that Obama could be assassinated as a reason to stay in the race. What a ghoulish reason to stay in the race. Regardless of whether this was a mis-statement or not, it is reason enough to disqualify her. She shoud issue a real apology, to Obama, instead of excuses.

DougStamate · 1 year ago

Pretty bad when foreigners are appalled by our bad behavior. I was 18 when RFK was shot and to be completely frank, to this very day whenever his name is mentioned that is the very first thing that pops into my head. Does that mean I want Sen. Obama whacked? No, it means I remember RFK by the great tragedy that took his life.
The paranoia that has swept across so many blogs would be amusing if it wasn't so pitiful. Any deed, no matter how far-fetched or disturbing, can be ascribed to the opponent of your chosen candidate. Why? Because she is YOUR candidate's opponent and therefore refuses to validate YOUR choice. That's all there is to it.
It is going to be awful around here when Sen. Obama shows that he is, after all, only human and makes a mistake.
I had to add "and makes a mistake" since I didn't want to also be accused of wanting him assassinated since humans do die and someone might misconstrue that sentence otherwise.
And if anyone thinks I'm taking this too lightly, they are mistaken. I do find it amusing, however, to see a group of adults giving in to their most paranoid fantasies while playing a game of "Top This!" like a group of teen-agers on a sleepover.

MorgaineSwann · 1 year ago

The bottom line here is not what Hilllary intended to say. It's that a candidate for president should be savvy enough not to say anything so stupid. There was no way that was not going to get twisted around to bite her in the ass, and anybody with a lick of sense would have known that. If she doesn't have the judgement to know that assassination talk in THIS election is bad on SO many levels - well, I don't want her talking to foreign heads of state on my behalf. I've had enough of tough-talking cowboy wannabes, so Annie Oakley needs to go the hell on home now and let the adults start trying to put this country back on track. The fact that she doesn't have the good sense and a modicum of grace that tells her she's done simply illustrates how unfit for office she is.

Pangolin · 1 year ago

Clinton did everything but beg any potential shooters out there to "Take the SHOT ALREADY" and offer a no-chaperone date with Miley Cyrus (Jodi Foster surrogate) to the shooter. After weeks of having her surrogates insert the words "white, working class, voters" into every other sentance it was more than clear what she meant.

She meant....."I'm staying in the race because some "white, working class, voter" is gonna shoot that N---er."

Hillary, a vow of silence would be a good idea right about now.

alicef · 1 year ago

Having read this blog for years and I have always loved it. But now I am completely turned off by the distorted posts about Clinton by Avarosis and others. . One of the things I'm afraid of is that Democrates will become completely polorized about these two candidates that they will acutally vote for MCain or not vote at all out of protest. I am for Obama. There are certainly things about Clinton I don't like but the disgusting hatred of her is appalling. The tone of this blog is no different than Limbaugh or O'Reilly. It's sad. It was pretty clear to me what she meant to say. Stop distorting things! We will only hurt ourselves. I find it hypocritical that we were all defending the Clintons when they were under seige 10 years ago and during the early parts of the Bush Administration.
Richard, Providence

scottinsf · 1 year ago

In my mind she destroyed any shred of credibility with things she said back in March. This latest (and most offensive) comment is just icing on the cake.

What I don't get is how many dems still support her after her obvious and bald-faced lies about having more of the popular vote. As if it would even matter if she did. I hope to hell she has a primary challenger that kicks her ass to the curb in her next run for the senate.