DISQUS

AMERICAblog: "Simply not their kind of guy"

  • Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago
    Heard the term "white trash"? There are pockets of ignorant bigoted whites all over the country, its not just a southern thing (where they are called republicans). It just happens West Virginia is chock-a-block full of ignorant bigoted whites and racist Hillary took pains to appeal to them. And thus she and whoremonger hubby Bill richly deserve being in the same category:
    WHITE TRASH.
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    BANG ON. The primary in Pa. brought out the racism that is a part of the culture here in Western Pa. I live north of Pittsburgh and I must say bigotry is part of the culture. It is why Obama did not win. People who are poor and unemployed or under employed like someone to blame things on. Mexicans and blacks in the South and here in Pa. we continue to elect complete assclowns time after time. It took a Santorum clone to beat him. Casey is no different, except he hasn't as of yet said that man on dog sex causes homosexuality.
    Discussions in this community always get to race every day. The n word is spoken freely and the stereotypes always thrown up as if they are gospel. The local hardware is where the blowhard right wing hang out and perpetuate the bigotry and racism. These same people go to church and swear to God every Sunday but it never occurs to them that the white, rich politicians they continue to vote for have never delivered on jobs, health care, education and opportunities for their kids, but they sure as hell know a black man can't..
  • SteamingPile · 1 year ago
    If McCain gets elected, and starts vetoing every attempt by Congress to enact some progressive thing everybody wants, or even to restore sanity to the federal government, I will make it my business to remind everyone that if it weren't for these bigoted assholes, we could have gotten this passed.
  • TimPeacock · 1 year ago
    Having grown up in rural Missouri, I agree a large chunk of rural-America still has that racially-prejudiced mindset embedded as rigidly as pot lucks at church. Growing up, I couldn't go a day without hearing at least one racial (or homophobic) epithet. (It's one of the many reasons I fled to the first city within reach as soon as I turned 18, in fact.)

    Despite the passage of time since I left, the tone hasn't diminished there; rather, I'd say racial prejudice has heightened in the past ten years. Unless people begin to stop ignoring the problem, I don't think the situation in rural America will ever improve.
  • KerrynowCampau · 1 year ago
    Wow, Clinton must be proud of that win.

    Not.
  • lilybart · 1 year ago
    It's like affirmative action; we need to elect Obama to show people that it is the person and his/her policies and smarts that count, not race. They will see that race is a non-issue.

    So, getting him elected will change hearts and minds. We can't wait for people to change first.
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    Well, West Virginia is buried in racist muck, anyway.

    Prepare for the Landslide Punitive Election of 2008.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    you go, Jacki!
    it's time we had this conversation out loud and out in the open.
    the extreme right wing likes to pretend we've 'transcended race' to keep this shit away from scrutiny so it can continue to be played to their benefit.
  • mush57 · 1 year ago
    I'ts not just western Pa or the sticks of W Virginia. I live in a relatively affluent suburb of Phila. used to be Republican but voted for McCain if Obama is the nominee. We might NEED to elect Obama to prove a point. But doing that is not necessarily possible. At the same time, Gore Obama would be unstoppable and set him up for the big show.
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    Watch Pat Buchanan meltdown about racism in West Virginia.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVeFyV0iLrk
  • mush57 · 1 year ago
    somehow my comment got garbled. I said that the district used to be republican but went for Clinton twice, for Gore, and even Kerry. But I bet that if Obama is the nominee, it will go slightly for McCain.
  • Coming Undone · 1 year ago
    Being a racist is the easy just ask Hillary.

    If Hillary was a single white woman she would have had a harder time in West Virgina, racist people look at her and say she is a white woman but she does have that white husband to keep her in line.

    We need to pull these racist people up instead of letting them pull us down.
    Hillary Clinton tagged West Virgina as a racist state, and that is very sad especially in 2008.
  • sukabi1 · 1 year ago
    What everyone is failing to realize it that it's BECAUSE of how the MSM and our "leaders" (especially but not exclusively on the repub. side of the isle) have dealt with EVERYTHING starting with 9/11 that has encourage and enabled the "quiet racism" that runs deep in this country to "come out of the closet" as it were.

    They have all embraced and promoted the idea of cultural, racial, ideological divisions while promoting their "one true" vision of what a "perfect" US (and world) would be.... I'll give you a hint.... it ain't liberal, colorful or inclusive.
  • LasloPratt · 1 year ago
    Who are we afraid of offending? The offensive?

    We're afraid of offending the stupid and the gullible. Our entire power structure depends on them. Plus, stupidity is the last area in which America leads the Western world. We can't just let that go!

    U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
  • dad · 1 year ago
    i'm just glad that none of us ever make pre-judgements about others.

    never have we jumped to conclusions about the behavior of a child.
    never have we reached our determinations of another on their habits or vices.
    never have we based our accessment of a person on their political affiliation.

    we are ignorance free and proud.
  • dad · 1 year ago
    s.b. assessment

    (or the wisdom of a man on how well he can spell.)
    :)
  • DonS · 1 year ago
    to be fair, there was a piece on our local NPR "talk radio", done by the BBC that interviewed West Virginians who voiced the fact that 1) they didn't like blacks and 2) they wouldn't vote for a black. Came about as close as you can to calling out the West Virginians for being, at base, racists.
  • sherifffruitfly · 1 year ago
    White folks have worked very hard for a very long time to blockade the term "racist" - simply in order that they can continue being racist with impunity.
  • Coming Undone · 1 year ago
    What gets me is that according to the media and Hillary is that it is okay for an entire state to be racist, but Rev. Wright, one man had to be stopped.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    Mikki --SE Pennsylvania
    Heard the term "white trash"? There are pockets of ignorant bigoted whites all over the country, its not just a southern thing (where they are called republicans).

    ---

    True... even in SoCal we have the white trash racists... Orange County (pretty much known as a "repugnican only" area) and Fallbrook come to mind.

    ever hear of tom metzger? google him... it isn't all liberal out here.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    Coming Undone
    What gets me is that according to the media and Hillary is that it is okay for an entire state to be racist, but Rev. Wright, one man had to be stopped.
    ---

    none of the press is tying the whole state of WV to hillary though... they sure tried to tie Wright to Obama. Even after TWO very elloquent speeches, they STILL ask 'has he done enough to distance himself?'

    I've formed the opinion that certain members of the press should be lobotomized and put into institutions.
  • Blueflash · 1 year ago
    The media also dance around calling these people what they are - uneducated. They prefer the euphemism "less educated" or they skirt the matter of ignorance entirely by casting things in terms of income level. The same people are invariably also anti-gay bigots but you'll never hear the MSM say that either. No, they have "traditional values". All I can figure is that the media have to keep their sponsors happy and their sponsors are well aware that the country if chock-full of ignoramuses who buy things.
  • Coming Undone · 1 year ago
    Soundboy_Jeff

    When I hear the MSM talk about West Virgina it's like they have accepted that the entire state is racist(which I don't believe is true) thats why they voted for Hillary and Hillary should have taken that moment to speak about racism that she hopes whites are not voting for her just because she is white.

    Some in the media will accept racism in great numbers from entire states but will still talk about Rev Wright and his so called racist sermons.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    you don't have to be poor or uneducated to be racist...
    take Michael Medved for example...
    he says some really dumb things...

    http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/05/mich...
  • CitizenX · 1 year ago
    Clinton's WV base, "the hatfields and the mccoys". Not a group I would want deciding who will be President.
  • mush57 · 1 year ago
    but they decided our last one
  • Blueflash · 1 year ago
    tlsintx - Then there are the Medveds of the world who have no excuse. Some people are just eaten up with hatred by their very nature.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    yep blueflash---

    and then there are sitting legislators like Tom Davis (R-VA) who continue, in the year 2008, to use terms like 'tar baby'...

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0508/Tar...
  • blogmob · 1 year ago
    if this country truly is not ready to elect a black man, if 100 years of war in iraq and economic chaos is preferable to voting for a black man in the minds of a majority of americans, we should know this up front. better we should know where we stand.
  • MF · 1 year ago
    Parody t-shirts, "Hard-Working White People for Obama":
    http://www.cafepress.com/Freetransform.264151646
  • devis1 · 1 year ago
    And this morning when a group of repigs were announcing the details of their 'prescription for change', the new mantra was not only national security but neighborhood security. I'm sure this has no secret meaning.
  • Andon · 1 year ago
    Now let's get the second part of the equation in place: Class. The core proposition is that working class Americans carry a culture of bigotry and violence and are therefore a threat to civil society. It is otherwise known as working class authoritarianism with the associated false consciousness aspect. It is the legacy of two centuries of absolutely execrable public primary and secondary education, and not easily fixed by rhetorical flourishes either. Its no wonder that members of the educated ruling class is afraid of these goofs. They are in fact ignorant, prone to violence, and a threat at all times, especially in crowds.
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    WT is the expression you're looking for. Translated? white trash.
  • bernardaB · 1 year ago
    I get it. If people vote against Obama it is because they are racist. If people vote against Clinton, it is of course absolutely not at all because they are misogynist.

    But besides that, it was obnoxious and unacceptable that Stewart compared the primary campaign to the Bataan Death March. That is on the level of Fox Noise.
  • gonzalez · 1 year ago
    They are racists! Period. No other word to describe these ODIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • DoctorJ · 1 year ago
    Isn't it funny how Obama only has a problem with "white, working class voters" in certain states east of the Mississippi? Then why have they turned out for him in droves throughout the west? Oh right, because there are no "white, working class voters" out west... apparently they only exist in and around Appalachia. Who knew?
  • trumandem · 1 year ago
    Isn't it incredible how racism looks no matter whose mouth is spewing it? Those damned hillbillies in W.V. sure aren't pretentious about it. The hayseed that told the world she was to "afraid" of someone of another race because of all the conflict elicited a killer retort by a commenter I read yesterday, "Oh yeah, in a state that has a 95% white population those conflicts must be overwhelming." I'm going to stretch my neck out here and muse that "those conflicts" she's evoking have a noose hanging somewhere as a provocation. Just a guess mind you.
  • DougStamate · 1 year ago
    trumandem - "...The hayseed that told the world she was to (sic) "afraid" of someone of another race because of all the conflict...".
    Two points:
    1. "..because of all the conflict..." What's the percentage of blacks in the United States who are presently incarcerated? What is the average rate of murders or violent robberies in predominantly black areas? Of the news reports on television concerning murders/robberies/violence, how often are those reports about blacks? While most of the crimes committed by blacks are against other blacks, an average viewer would not necessarily know that. Relying solely on newspaper/television reports as your source of information could easily lead to thinking "black = violence"; especially if there wasn't anything in one's personal life to act as a counter to the reports (as in actually knowing some black people).
    2. "...how racism looks...Those damned hillbillies...hayseed...noose hanging somewhere...". Mrs. Kettle, meet Mr. Pot.
    "trumandem", indeed!
  • gonzalez · 1 year ago
    We have to show this racists the way and call them what they are - RACISTS. Obama lost West Virginia because he is black. And these idiots won't vote for her if she ran against McCain anyway. They will vote for the white guy no matter what. Just look at what they gave us the last 8 years.

    These are the assholes running our country. GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • ggm1957 · 1 year ago
    The media jumps all over stupid comments like that one made by the West Virginia woman and in that way perpetuates the bs rumors started by Clinton and her cohorts. I am glad I am a Vermonter and never knew about prejudice growing up. I was taught that I was equal to other people - not better than anyone else - no matter what sex or color. I am a 50 year old white middle class working woman and am very grateful for the upbringing I received from my parents.