DISQUS

Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago

Clouding the issue with facts again, Joe.

KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago

There may have been only a couple of hundred of T-shirted crones and Seth Rogen-types hanging around the Marriott yesterday and invading the ballroom but each one of these righteously angry Hillary-Americans symbolizes a hundred thousand disenfranchised, victimized, and CHEATED Hillary-Americans! Count every vote! Women Count Too! Den-ver! Den-ver!

maggiePA08 · 1 year ago

LOL! Hillary-Americans, um hard-werkin white Hillary-Americans.

ZennButtKicker (tlhwraith) · 1 year ago

at some point someone needs to answer how Hillary hereself was "cheated" by MI/FL. From my recollection wasn't the whole point of her arguement was a voter inclusion arguement, not "Hillary is being cheated" arguement? In reality, people like you are being had because Clinton knew full well that if she pushed this arguement based on her real objective, getting more delegates for her, and not on the crapola she pushed in the media, making all votes count, there would be a lot lsss duped people walking around.

Let's not lose perspective on the fact that when this decision was made, Clinton was perfectly OK with it. Only after she got it handed to her in the primary election did she suddenly get all voters rights.

KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago

Karen LOVES to use free indirect discourse to satirize Hillary-Americans, who are less than slaves! Why, they're only half a person, like those Democrats Abroad!

Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago

Boo-Hoo!! Just a min let me wipe the crocodile tears from my eyes!

HelenaMontana · 1 year ago

I am perfectly fine with the media showing the Clinton harpies behaving like asses over and over and over again. True, it makes the Dems look a little silly overall, but it showcases the calibre of the Hillywhackers, and that ain't no bad thing. To be fair to the Hillywhackers, I think some of thier number were Operation Chaos volunteers.

gustavmahler · 1 year ago

Sorry to be off-topic but WHEN IS SOMEONE GOING TO REALIZE THAT PUERTO RICO POPULAR VOTE CANNOT COUNT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT CITIZENS!!!!!!! THEY CANNOT VOTE IN THE GE!!!!!!!!

ron071 · 1 year ago

Gustavmahler is on to something. Do the good people of Puerto Rico pay federal income taxes or is that why they have voted to remain a commonwealth? If this is the case as I assume it is then why is their vote of any import? Why would they even have any federal impact vote?

Ben Dover · 1 year ago

Today would be the perfect day for Hillary to give her concession speech and pledge her full and considerable efforts to seeing Sen. Obama elected to the presidency.

Obama '08!

Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago

Amen to that Ben, but despite all the quotes, I just have a hard time zeroing in on the image of Hil "working her heart out" to elect Obama. Maybe I'll be proved wrong, but I wont believe it until I see it and hear it!

Butch1 · 1 year ago

Unfortunately, as long as Ms. Clinton continues to stir the pot with her endless campaigning, ignoring the DNC decision and Sherman-like slash and burn your way to Atlanta tactics, there will be no ending in sight. She needs to be told in plain English that it is over and that will be the job of the Super-delegates as a huge thundering of a stampede is heard from them rushing over to the Obama camp. Will she accept that?, I doubt it, she is fully intending on dragging this to the convention regardless. Sorry. . .

aquarius2 · 1 year ago

God, watching Harold Ickes on MTP was just nauseating. IF he is one of Clinton's advisors then no wonder the woman has run a bad campaign. His sole defense is "Clinton is the stronger candidate". Ickes is a smug, lying piece of crap.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

And he dresses like a dandy.

Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago

Ickes is a nasty toxic little weasel of a man.

RickTaylor · 1 year ago

I'm content if the media payed attention to the protesters. It makes Clinton look bad, which is fair as she pushed the Florida 2000 comparison and made no effort that I know of to discouraging the protests; I even saw a notice of the protests on her campaign website. Obama on the other hand discouraged any sort of counter protest.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

I agree.

They looked pretty obnoxious.

And, actually, I think even some independents will be impressed that Obama could handle the Clintons while the Repubs never could.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

Remember, protest organizers were promising something huge yesterday -- as many as 10,000 were expected. This was D-Day according to the protesters. They ran full page ads promoting the rally. They had websites. They had support from EMILY's List among others. But, despite all the planning and hype, there was a very small crowd.

They woould have gotten more of those tubbos to show up if they had promised buffalo wings.

Chimpeach · 1 year ago

Given the cost and annoyance of flying, nevermind $300/night for even a crummy hotel in D.C., did they really expect thousands of Hillary supporters from Florida to show up?
And where were the MSM when 15 MILLION marched against the Iraq invasion in 2/2003.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

In a perfect world, Hillary would have paid for their bus fares to DC, but the check would have bounced by the time they were ready to go home, and they'd be stuck wandering around some of the worst parts of DC as night fell.

Will_In_Midtown · 1 year ago

Wow, I am sooooo ready for this to be over! And the more the Clintons pull there stunts, the more disgustingly I recall all the drama of the Bill Whitehouse: "I did not have sex with that woman <thumping finger on podium>," "this is all part of a vast right-wing conspiracy," "depends on what the meaning of is, is," etc. Mind you, I voted for Bill twice and given the same circumstances I would do it again. But from what I have seen so far, Obama has no drama! And after 8 years of Bush, I am really more interested in someone who does not put their self-obsessed drama up front. So Hillary, sit down, shut up, and realize your time has passed.

Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago

Indeed Will, I too voted for Bill twice. Now the best I can say is be careful of Bill's fat wagging finger, you don't know where it has been. As for Hil, you said it best: "So Hillary, sit down, shut up, and realize your time has passed."

tbhull · 1 year ago

The die hard Clinton old windbags appear to have run out of steam. They have fallen and cannot get up.

Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 1 year ago

Darlin's the only reason the MSM is salivating is because they desperately want Hillary to run against McCain so McCain can win. They can drag out Monica and all the other shit and push him to the WH. This will allow their corporate salary system to stay put, more corporate consolidation, and the status quo.

LynnDee · 1 year ago

I've seen about 4 or 5 youtubes of Clinton supporters who are so they angry they say they'll vote for McCain, and all but one of them are from New York -- which makes sense, of course. But I wonder if anyone has looked at whether this is representative of Clinton's most impassioned "McCainocrat" supporters. And if it is, is anyone really worried that New York will go Republican in the general election?

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

Yeah, I've noticed that ..

And the guy who runs the hillaryis44 Web site is in New York too.

ZennButtKicker (tlhwraith) · 1 year ago

Living in nearby nj most of my life I would say McCain taking NY state is pretty remote. Let's take this in the right perspective. NYC alone pretty much dictates who carries NY state, and snowballs chance in hell McCain carries NYC. What you are seeing now is the loud screaming of an impassioned few, more hype than a thread. Just as "thousands" were expected to protest yesterday, and acouple hundred did, this is the same phenomenon. Most Hillary supporters I know realized MI/FL was a tough situation and may not love the decision, but accept it for the compromise that had to happen (as many Obama supporters also feel I imagine).

In the end, oddly, I think the "great MI/FL compromise" may be the catalyst to actually get the party unified, even if Clinton fights it. Most people see the issue as closed, and if she keeps pushing it all she does is put her true motives in startling relief.

HelenaMontana · 1 year ago

New York State (outside of NYC) is actually a fairly conservative place, I think. But I think even upstate New York is going to have a problem with McCain. The longer this campaign goes on, the crazier he's going to act. Even the MSM can't cover up for him forever.

ron071 · 1 year ago

Ms. Montana raises a very important point about the volatility potential of McCain. His pattern is now becoming too clear. He errs on the facts. He is called on the error and becomes clearly hostile. This reminds me of the typical Bush reaction to the facts and his dismissive reaction to criticism. Is this really the best Republican candidate or one selected for a throw-away election?

warsaw · 1 year ago

What were the Clintons thinking making Harold Ickes their pointman for yesterday's meeting, when they had so many other clearly articulate members willing to go to the mat for her? Ickes was practically born in the Roosevelt whitehouse and is sodden with a sort of noblesse oblige and aristocratic entitlement which is completely inappropriate to the frisson that was apparent around that table. The old world hauteur he was displaying, the dowager-in-distress indignation, the huffy door-slamming threat of going above this committee's head, the orange hair and lock-jaw elocution were all laughable, both yesterday and today on the talk shows. Bill Clinton may think Ickes has the lineage and savior-faire of those wasps he was outclassed by when he was at Yale Law School, but, instead, he brings up images of the generation of legacy politicians of another way-passed era.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

And what kind of shirt was he wearing? Gingham?

He looked and acted fairly ridiculous.

And, you know, that's been the problem with Hillary's campaign since the beginning.

Instead of hiring the best and brightest, they hired Friends of Bill.

Bush_Bites · 1 year ago

Funny how the article talks about partisans on both side being raucous.

Yet, all the examples of idiots acting out are of Clinton supporters.

Guess they felt they had to place some blame on Obama supporters, even though they acted with class.

ron071 · 1 year ago

The role of media in this campaign is starting to become worrisome. There are just too many instances when media bias is being considered the norm. This trend seems to be correlated with the take-over of the many by the few ( corporate giants ). I cite as one prime example that unbelievable display by George S. at what was billed as a "debate". I don't recall ever seeing bias of that magnitude. We must be ever more careful how we accept " reports " by the media. The Austrailian troops are now exiting Iraq. Why is Aussie/CNN reporter Michael Ware being kept under wraps. His reports from the field are the most instructive avilable today. He doesn"t hide out and report from embedded or Green Zone hideouts.

ron071 · 1 year ago

Make or break time has now passed for Hillary Clinton. From this point on the real Hillary will emerge and we all ought to keep a wary eye upon her actions.

Will_In_Midtown · 1 year ago

This is strange, but I actually think I would have supported Hillary if she had dumped Bill and gotten a divorce. I was completely for her before my states primary (February 5), but then Bill popped his pompous head up. I don't want a co-president. And I especially don't want a co-president that cannot control his weeney.

Coming Undone · 1 year ago

Hillary is the only one responsible for this ongoing fiasco. She lost, she lost , she lost and now her and her supporters have lost it. I believe their biggest problem is that they cannot believe voters chose a black man over a white woman.

If these woman would vote for McCain over Obama it means that they were never going to vote for him in the first place. Out of spite they would vote for a candidate that would contiue to send young men and women to their deaths in Iraq and probably Iran. They would vote for a candidate that would make sure Roe v Wade is overturned. They would vote for a candidate that could care less about the healthcare and the poor. Maybe some of her supporters should have their right to vote, revoked (joking, but not).
Hillary broke this and she has to fix it.

Andrew A. Gill · 1 year ago

Did you see the analysis of Hillaryis44? Turns out the grassroots from them is 310 people who posted 100,000 times.

jr · 1 year ago

the top 1 percenters on cable news will do anything to help McCain win including adding a few 0's behind the protestor totals

feeba · 1 year ago

Clinton has taken Kentucky and Obama is right there in Oregon.
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Busboy · 1 year ago

Or, as a young attorney friend of mine used to say; "anything with bacon and cheese on it"...