DISQUS

Jimbo62 · 1 year ago

As a Michigan voter, let me add that I had to vote for "Uncommitted" instead of Obama and I know several people who didn't bother to vote, since they thought it wouldn't count anyway. My brother voted for McCain just because Romney scares him more, he is an Obama supporter. The only way to fairly split the delegates is 50/50. And that is fair to the voters.

tlsintx · 1 year ago

i hope the DNC will pull their collective head out and stop 'punishing' states like this in the future. the same states shouldn't go first every single time. there should be a rotation giving all states a chance to go first in primary voting. iowa and new hampshire can take turns like everyone else.

it's like talking to a three year old...

jescot · 1 year ago

Amen to that post. i didn't vote as well because I assumed my vote wouldnt count.

Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago

Parties that agree to rules can expect them to remain in force.

lucky hussein · 1 year ago

Oh stop your whining, at least he was on the ballot, jeeze, some people want everything...:)

maxstar212 · 1 year ago

This is like the Republicans in the Panhandle who said they didn't vote in 2000 because the state was called for Gore too early. The DNC will not be able to wash this stain off their hands for a hundred years. They disenfranchised 1.7 million of our fellow citizens. It is the worst disenfranchisement since jim crow. It disenfranchised the voters in Florida, which are filled with minorities--Gays, the Elderly, Haitians, Venezuelans, Colombians, Peruvians, Nicaraguans, Costa Ricans, Brazilians, Cubans, Jews and people from other Carribean Islands. and they give the most power to the people in caucuses in Iowa. These caucus goers are not the old home bound people, they are not people who have to work at night, they are not people who can not afford a baby sitter and they definitely are not Gay or Lesbians or Transgenders. Iowa is the straightest state in the union.

http://www.gaydemographics.org/USA/states/iowa/...

jpalmer · 1 year ago

Here's my plan:

1. Seat the Florida and Michigan delegations - In the back.
2. FL and MI delegates get full votes. (None of the 3/5 of a delegate crap.)
3. The vote totals required for nomination do NOT change. (The delegate counts from FL and MI are not added to the total.)
4. FL and MI may NOT defer or delay the reporting of their delegate counts during roll call. They may NOT put the candidate "over the top"

J.

nxtyr88 · 1 year ago

I am from Michigan. Nearly the same story here. We were told our delegates would not be seated. I chose not to go and vote for "undecided" because I WAS decided ... the problem was, my candidate of choice (Barack Obama) was not even listed on the ballot. The whole idea that NOW the DNC is considering seating delegates anyway just ticks me off. Why even bother to state the so-called "rules" if you are just going to change them at-will ... or to appease an unhappy candidate? I will still vote for the democratic nominee, whoever it is, but I will do it kicking and screaming if it is anyone other than Obama.

lauren1959 · 1 year ago

This is absolutely, positively the best argument as to why the FL and MI votes should not stand "as is". Sure, seat the delegates in some compromise fashion, but the "popular" vote is meaningless... I would have stayed home for the same reasons.

Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago

Here's my plan: Hillary can drop out of the race and urge her delegates to support the candidate who will win the nomination.

davidkc · 1 year ago

As another Florida voter, I've been making this point until I'm blue in the face. Hillary does not speak for me, and I do not feel disenfranchised. I was upset that our primary votes wouldn't count, but it was clearly to me when I voted in the primary that my vote for the Democratic primary wouldn't count. The main reason I voted was to vote for the property tax amendment. If the DNC now changes the rules and says, "Nevermind, your vote actually DID count; gotcha!" well, I will echo the "screw you Howard Dean" refrain.

KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago

I hope A Floridian Democrat places the blame where it lies, exclusively: the desperate, losing Hillary campaign, which changes the rules and goal posts when and if it leads to the remote possibility of "victory."

JMOHR · 1 year ago

Sounds like a rule of law issue. You belong to a party. Your chosen representatives to the party agree on rules. All of the candidates expressly agree to the rulings on MI and FL. Game over, that is all she wrote. This is just stupid. The respect that I had for Clinton is long gone. I went from avid supporter to hoping for a joint Clinton/Obama ticket to hoping for an Obam/Clinton ticket to just plain disgust for Clinton.

jr · 1 year ago

Debbie Wasserman Schultzites would rather McCain win Florida with their "you need to be counted!" claptrap than to have Obama win the nomination despite having the most pledged delegates

1BobbyBlue2 · 1 year ago

From a Floridian: Haven't seen anyone mention lately that the primary dates in FL were changed by a Republican legislature, yet the Democratic Party punished Fl Democrats for it.

pkessler · 1 year ago

Back in October DNC officials should at least have told us FL voters that "yes. if you vote today, your vote won't be counted, but why don't you go ahead and vote anyway, just in case Hillary Clinton might be behind in delegates byApril 08, we might then really count and include those votes".

mirth · 1 year ago

The ONLY fair way to solve this debacle is for the DNC and the individual state's Dem Party to finance a new vote. Before the convention. Period.