AMERICAblog: Special needs mom weighs in on Sara Palin
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
One does begin to have impressions of E X T R E M I S M with Ms Palin and Mr McCain.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
Precisely how Lakoff says our leaders should be discussing them. He says they should not allow themselves to be distracted by the facts/stories about Palin situation. He thinks that so far, Obama/Biden are doing the right things.
Laur
· 1 year ago
Obama/Biden are really doing the right thing by not focusing on this matter. What they are doing is trying to focus on the issues that affect us as a nation. Of course, that doesn't mean that those of us who are supporting our candidates have to refrain from engaging in this discussion (along with the other discussions about things like national security, the economy, the war, health care, etc.). But keep in mind that if this situation involved a candidate for office who was a Democrat, the corporate media would be banging out headline after headline over it.
HereinDC
· 1 year ago
I just a clip on NBC News of McCain last week saying that Pailn puts America First.....well that's obvious...she doesn't put Family First.
Chris From Maine
· 1 year ago
the age of consent in Alaska is 16.
but who is the daddy? When will this wedding take place? Has the daughter done tests to see if the child will be a special needs child? Was abortion even an option?
Obama said to back off, but I'm not going to back off because we are talking about a future President if McCain is elected.
dacnova
· 1 year ago
John, Palin's first name isn't right in the headline.
lilyannerose
· 1 year ago
What really bothers me as the mother of two daughters is what mother would think it's a great solution that her teen ager get married? Who in their right mind would want that for a child?
ydthin
· 1 year ago
an authoritarian.
People so thoroughly traumatized by childhood that questioning in the slightest the rigid belief system they grew up in causes them unbearable anxiety. So they have no psychological coping mechanisms but to conform absolutely, continue the cycle and enforce that belief system on their own children, and withdraw from anyone that does not also support it. The other possibility is that of a daughter of a borderline or narcissistic mother with unresolved trauma from her mother who bonds to anything she percieves as belonging to maleness or the masculine world as a form of revenge (meaing woman-hating, which is what this is). So, in short, someone not in their right mind.
grandma
· 1 year ago
From the post:
'I agree that the girl should be left out of the spotlight as much as possible, but her parents' judgment needs to be thoroughly examined."
'I agree that the girl should be left out of the spotlight as much as possible, but her parents' judgment needs to be thoroughly examined."
We do not bring this up against the teenager . . . we are trying to show the hipocracy of Sarah . She says one thing acts totally opposite. Had she been home more with less politics this young lady's future might have read differently. If she is such a good caring mother why is she leaving a 5 mo. old totally in someone elses care to perhaps repeat another unfortunate future.
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
Sarah said the she'll be an oversight specialist. I guess she will as long as it's my vagina and not her daughters.
She's just a shitty Mom.
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
Has any other well-vetted VP ever dropped out after accepting the nomination?
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
On the Democratic side: Thomas Eagleton who did not acknowledge or reveal that he had had psychiatric help (depression, I think). I thought that was sad and unfair, that he was judged unfit to be president because he may have been depressed at one time in his life. I think Lincoln, one of our greatest if not the greatest, suffered depression. Palin's case is different: I think these are all questions of ethics.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
Sorry, I didn't see your excellent response before I wrote mine below.
shrrrr
· 1 year ago
I remember the Eagleton affair, but I don't remember how the ticket was repaired. Another convention?
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
I don't know about good vetting, but McGovern's veep selection, Eagleton, had to resign because of heavy criticism by Rethugs of the fact that he had experienced depression and undergone electro-shock therapy earlier in his life. After going through process with Dem leaders, McGovern replaced him with Sargent Shriver.
GrMtGirl
· 1 year ago
"(This is classic behavior from the party that only cares about "life" before birth.)"
Said beautifully . . . once born don't worry about medical care, a warm home, food on the table or a fair chance for a college education. Only the rich deserve that!
Yes, that is what I came on here to say. Instead I'm making all kinds of other comments.
An_American_Karol
· 1 year ago
McCain is a serial adulterer and Palin is showing herself to be a lousy mother. How can the values voters reconcile voting for that team?
unrepentant_expat
· 1 year ago
They both support capital punishment.
naschkatzehussein
· 1 year ago
There you go. That's it.
HelenaMontana
· 1 year ago
He's a POW.
Isis
· 1 month ago
That's the reason they lost in elections !
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
I am assuming that the whole story is a tissue of lies. The hospital where she supposedly gave birth in April did not record Trig's birth and name on its website, which has since crashed. Where are the official documents to verify and authenticate the circumstances of the birth? What's sauce for the goose: the dittoheads have been screaming for, and contesting the authenticity of, Obama's birth certificate.
dacnova
· 1 year ago
And this is total snark, but I have to wonder if a veep's kid can have a White House wedding... is the Palin kid going to marry her baby daddy before the election? Or are they hoping for a McSame win so they can have a January wedding in DC?
One of my nieces had a shotgun wedding at 20. Some of the family decided it was OK to miss her first wedding. (we were correct; the marriage lasted 2 or 3 years). 17 is far too young to get married in this day and age. My mom was 19 and my dad 23, but they got married 65 years ago (And are still married to each other). But in 1943, getting married is what teenagers did. Today, they're better off deciding which college they're going to.
The GOP's "no abortion" platform is more than disturbing, but no worse than the "abstinence only" message. If those kids had a condom (or the sexually active girl could have asked her mom for a GYN consultation and the Pill), there wouldn'te BE a baby to be an issue right now. But the GOP far right are more than OK with a pregnant 17 year old girl as long as she plans to marry the daddy, but the same girl can't have access to birth control.
I scanned some comments on redstate.com today. Unbelievable hypocrisy.
dacnova
· 1 year ago
John, I left out the www but the blog software sill made the link to redstate. It wasn't ME.
Asterix
· 1 year ago
Ah, yes--nothing like a "shotgun" wedding to make for marital bliss. Perhaps there's no physical firearm, but I'm sure the daddy has been strongly informed of the "you have to marry her now" principle.
We're assuming that daughter is pregnant by another teenager. What if it's a 50 year old man?
'...her parents' judgment needs to be thoroughly examined.'
I'd say a full-on Senate investigation is in order. Start with cookie recipes, and then ask her why she didn't teach her kids about birth control.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
I like your ideas!
Patriot
· 1 year ago
I was already convinced before Palin's nomination that McCain was no longer firing on all cylinders with judgment and awareness.
In short, everything about selecting Palin just seems incredibly careless, reckless and non too smart to say the least.
ydthin
· 1 year ago
Something is wrong. You are right, I noticed that as well. The Time interview was weird, he flew off the handle for nothing. Maybe encroaching dementia? He's young, but something weird is happening. This isn't the McCain from four years ago.
Will_In_Midtown
· 1 year ago
OK, I am stewing over the Knocked Up Daughter (KUD) issue. And here's why. Kelly O'Donnell on NBC Nightly News said the boy was 18. He's legally an adult. So then, how old was the KUD when the knocking occurred? Why does this irk me so much. Google the name Genarlow Wilson. This kid say in prison here in Georgia for 2 years for having consensual oral sex with a girl barely a year younger while all the republicans in georgia scratched their heads saying they had to let the legal process work itself out. In the meantime, the GA Legislature amended the law that sent him to jail because they saw it was creating such unintended consequences.
So here sits the daughter of a VP candidate. Knocked up by a legal adult. I either would like to know if any sort of law in Alaska has been broken, and if so and special exceptions are being made here i would like someone to bring th topic up to Palin.
Now, if there is any hint of heavy pressure being brought to bear on the father and/or his family for political purposes (remember, Palin has a history regarding using her office to influence family matters) then that would probably be a disaster for the McCain campaign, and who knows given the lack of vetting that was done?
It would have to be more than "you should do the right thing by your girlfriend and baby" of course, but that kid must be feeling utterly cornered right now.
momof5
· 1 year ago
Bristol and Levi planned on getting married before she even found out she was pregnant. She probably should have waited until after the wedding to have sex, but things happen.
pcvirginiabeach
· 1 year ago
Tac- Yeah...and? What if this man is in his 20s? Legal? Moral? Also, the way they paraded her in front of the press, hiding her "condition"... somthing wrong with that. I would never put my kid on a stage under those circumstances. Ever.
tacitus
· 1 year ago
I just answered the question posed. Even if the guy is 40, it's not a legal issue. I know full well that Obama's candidacy would have run aground months ago if his present family (i.e. not the stuff that happened when he was a baby) was half as bad as Palin's family mess and the Republicans would have been unrelenting in bashing Obama as a bad father and an unfit role model. The normal rules of honesty and fair play don't exist for the religious right, that is for certain.
bluestockton
· 1 year ago
The father is 18. So 17-year-old Bristol and 18-year-old Levi (his last name has not been released) are going to get married? I give it two years tops.
moreleesafer
· 1 year ago
It's a double standard for black folks. They can freak the hell out that he was born in Hawaii but it is ok for McCain to be born in Panama.
Fox called Michell, Obama's wife of 15 years, his "Baby Mama" on air, but now a McCain Staffer got pissy when a reporter referred to Palin's daughters fetus as a "love child".
If you are black/brown you cannot have any skeletons in your closet. If you are a fundie...you can have the skeletons in the family photos and nobody gives a damn.
HelenaMontana
· 1 year ago
Do as I say, not as I do. Family values are for the little people.
An_American_Karol
· 1 year ago
Who wants to volunteer to watch the Republican convention? I simply do not have the stomach for it.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Not me !! *gag*
momof5
· 1 year ago
Oh it was awesome! I loved it! It was amazing! I can't help watch it over and over. Totally beat Obama's
sullivan
· 1 year ago
Obama just said: I think people's families are off limits, and people's children are especially off limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics, it has no relevance to governor Palin's performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know my mother had me when she was 18. And how family deals with issues and teenage children that shouldn't be the topic of our politics and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that is off limits.
An_American_Karol
· 1 year ago
What else can he say - rhetorical question not requiring a question mark.
MNUSA
· 1 year ago
That's because Obama is a decent human being. The Repubs wouldn't be anywhere near decent, believe me. Wasn't he having to answer questions about Repub accusations that his campaign was responsible for leaking the story?
SarainKC
· 1 year ago
Well, sort of. The reporter was trying to insinuate that the story started on a blog that also "used his name".
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Not trying to be crude; but, I read remarks here about people having sex using condoms? Sorry; that doesn't qualify as sex. Apparently, even highschoolers know the difference...
An_American_Karol
· 1 year ago
"Sorry; that doesn't qualify as sex.' That comment goes a long way in explaining republican values
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Hmmmmm..........
MNUSA
· 1 year ago
Sounds like someone let up on parental supervision. Or don't parents supervise their teenagers in Alaska? Well, what's done is done. It isn't the end of the world.
I do wonder, however, who is raising Gov. Palin's baby while she is out and about. I didn't go back to work for six months after my son was born and that was too soon in my mind. Three days is rather unbelievable regardless of how many children you've had. Although is the governor of Alaska a full-time job?
momof5
· 1 year ago
She took Trig to work with her. I think she is amazing. She also has the support of her family. So please stop the bashing. You obviously know nothing about her.
Everyone is so interested in Sarah Palin's kids. What about Joe Biden.?How many kids does he have? Who are they? How old are they? You don't see much on the news about them, do you? Sarah is going to make an excellent VP and it scares the crap out of the libs
Artemis
· 1 year ago
Put down the People magazine and pick up any respectable newspaper - Joe Biden has two sons, one of which is serving in Iraq. His wife and daughter were killed in an auto accident, but the sons survived. The same sons Joe Biden took care of and went home everyday from Washington D.C. to Delaware to be with. Can you say the same about Palin. Pro-life and pro-capital execution. What is wrong with that picture. By the way, maybe Joe Biden does not parade with famly around like the Ice Capades show called the Palin family. She is greedy and relentless but not educated - the worst type of politican. She is also careless - a special needs child means it is a child WITH SPECIAL NEEDS - that mean mama should be there for the child not campaigning for a has been old solider who did nothing but survive the war - like so many other soliders. He crashing three planes, two of which were here in the U.S. when he was training - guess what - he was not a good solider!
insideout1
· 1 year ago
Thank you for posting this-- it is EXACTLY what I have been saying all day. What I want to know, as a late-fifties libber, is does questioning these circumstances make us less feminist? Some have suggested that to me, but I feel Palin's actions appear wholly egocentric, even exploitative of this baby. It's so sad. Terrific family values... Zero judgment on her part, on McCain's part, etc. The emperor has no clothes.... The other tidbit that caught my eye was the one about her husband who, with a couple of college credits but no degree to his name, has taken it upon himself to encourage high school grads to go to work directly for the oil companies instead of going to college. Wouldn't it be more advantageous for his wife's state if he were to encourage their young people to get MORE education rather than less?
ydthin
· 1 year ago
I am sadly coming to the conclusion that the liberal men who are insisting these things are 'personal' and don't need to be discussed, somehow do not understand women's rights issues at all. And I also don't cotton to someone telling me to 'shut up' about something and not listening when I explain why it is important as an issue. It's funny how the republicans also want to dictate both what our issues are, and then rate them in importance. Someone posted this on another blog (d-listed) and it's perfect:
"..."how can you call yerself a femanist when yer hollerin at a WOMIN, she's got a VAGINER guldangit she's WUN OF YER KIND." holy christcrackers.
That is exactly what I am hearing over and over again today, in not so many words.
SarainKC
· 1 year ago
We know Ms Palin had no clue what the job of VP actually was just a few months ago. Does she think this will be a regular 9-5? By accepting, she has literally passed off hands on parenting for at least the next 4 years, unless she as a typical Republican think of political appointments as a means to enrich themselves and not actually do the job.
Coming Undone
· 1 year ago
The GOP and all of the Fundies were outraged by Janet Jackson's boobie but now its okay for a VP candidate to have an unwed pregnant 17 yr old daughter. Where is the outrage, the GOP outrage would be what if all teenage girls think it's okay to have a baby because Sarah Palin said she is proud of her 17 year old unwed pregnant daughter.
I would like to know at which point did McCain think Palin was his soul-mate, was it when he found out that she had 5 children and an unwed teenage daughter or when he found out about Troopergate, or when he saw that Palin and Ted Stevens came from the same state, or, or, or, or, or when he saw she was 44 with an okay ass.
SarainKC
· 1 year ago
OK, I hate to be so skeptical, but given we are dealing with Republicans, I am having a real hard time taking anything they say at face value. Even if Bristol is now 5 months pregnant, Trig is only 4 months old. Isn't the most fertile time for a woman just after giving birth? Having seen the pictures of Sarah when she was supposidly 7 months pregnant and no baby bump at all, I'm having a hard time believing this amazing coincidence. Anybody else? Regardless, that kid needs to be introduced to birth control.
momof5
· 1 year ago
Oh please! Seriously, you believe what you want to believe. I can't believe the things I'm reading, Has America gone insane. I'm sure Bristol knows what birth control is. It's not about whether she knew what birth control was. She didn't use it and she got pregnant. It's not the end of the world.
calman
· 1 year ago
Sarah can do whatever she wants but the problem is she wants to put her way on millions of other girls or women. The conservatives may completely accept her for her anti-abortion and look other way with how she neglect her mother job. It's much more than having lots of kids (God doesn't create birthing machines!) but also how to raise them, taking care and educate them,... She can do her way for her family but let the others have different choices. Many Christians will not vote for an "ABSENTEE MOTHER" even she is pro-life. She doesn't have family values at all. It's only about her wish for political power!!
bish8
· 1 year ago
My heart goes out to the pregnant teenage daughter. For her Mother to accept the office knowing her daughter was pregnant, for me borders on child abuse. It is bad enough to be a pregnant teenager (I speak from experience) but now the whole world knows you are pregnant. She chose her political ambitions over the needs of her children. Family Values my ass!!!
ydthin
· 1 year ago
Amen. I can't say this or hear it enough!!! It's criminal, sick, disgusting. This must be one cold-hearted, greedy, ambitious humanoid, to not care about the kind of scrutiny her daughter would face. It's chilling.
moreleesafer
· 1 year ago
And she hid her by taking her out of school for 4-5 months! Was she so ashamed she could not have anyone know about the pregnancy. They hid the daughter and they lied.
momof5
· 1 year ago
They were not hiding the pregnancy. Most of Wasilla knew about Bristol's pregnancy.
momof5
· 1 year ago
If I was a pregnant teen and my mom wanted to run for VP. I would say go for it. Child abuse? Come on. I'm sure the family discussed this before she accepted.
momof5
· 1 year ago
Absentee Mother? Are you saying all mom's who work are absentee mothers? Sarah is a wonderful mother and her husband is a hands on dad. She did her best to raise her children. Unfortunately, your kids won't always do what you tell them. Her daughter made a mistake and is dealing with it. I'm sure she learned from it and Bristol will make a great mother. Making a mistake and fixing it with another mistake(abortion) will not solve the problem. I know so many people that keep making the same mistake over and over again and keep trying to fix it by having an abortion.
twitches
· 1 year ago
"I would like to know at which point did McCain think Palin was his soul-mate"
At the point he realized his current wife might be a tad too old to win that "Miss Buffalo Chip" competition?
preemiemama
· 1 year ago
As another special needs mama, I find the callousness and cavalier attitude Palin is taking to parenting absolutely appalling. To travel after one's water breaks is a major no-no since the risk of infection is so very high once amniotic fluid is leaking, the baby can go into distress and chances of cords prolapsing become pretty high, and in such cases, the mom needs medical care (antibiotics) and the baby needs to be monitored. At the very least going to a hospital to determine that one is not effaced and about to enter active labor is in order (I'm kind of an expert at this point in high risk pregnancies having been through this kind of scenario myself). And it's pretty routine for NICUs to do assessments on Down Syndrome babies, term or not, because they are at high risk of heart and gastrointestinal problems. Deciding to leave a state with VERY VERY good NICUs for a state that has very few NICUs and then deciding to BYPASS the NICU closest to the airport and drive another 40 miles to a hospital with no NICU at all and then have a generalist, and not a perinatalogist, deliver the baby is sufficient evidence to me of poor judgement. Top that off with preaching abstinence only in the schools (a policy that, if the home front is any evidence at all, clearly DOES NOT work) and choosing to neglect your family for a career doesn't amount to family-oriented where I am concerned. Supporting children through accessible prenatal and health care for moms and babies, making it easier for women to take off work to care for newborns by subsidizing maternity leave does. I don't see that here at all.
SarainKC
· 1 year ago
The doctor who delivered Trig was also the doctor that delivered Piper, Sarah's 7 year old. They have been close friends for years. That doctor helped Sarah and Todd commit insurance fraud. No matter what they say, Sarah did not carry nor deliver Trig. Announcing Bristol is 5 mos pregnant is just too slick by half. Bristol may be pregnant again, but this isn't her first and I'd want proof she is indeed already 5 months. (Even if she really is 5 months along, she got pregnant again right after delivering Trig, which happens all the time if you're sexually active and not using birth control).
ydthin
· 1 year ago
yeah, I'm kinda not so convinced about this explanation, I'm not sure it wraps up all the loose ends like they want it too. I'm just glad I'm young enough to watch it all come out in the long run, because this is one of the most interesting loop-de-loops I've ever observed in an election cycle. I mean, no more sitting around chuckling lightly because Quayle can't spell 'potato'. We got us a 21st century, reality teevee qualified vice-presidential scandal going on right-cheer. Yeeh haw.
And, it's becoming more and more obvious that Palin has made more than her share of political enemies. The trooper-gate thing is nothing. It sounds like the republican big-boys have been grooming her from day one for this. More manchurian candidate than backwoods memaw.
JamesR
· 1 year ago
Yes! Clearly Putin is behind this, fomenting the Free Alaska / AIKIP movement just like he encouraged the South Ossetians so that he could then invade to quell the discord, and then of course claim the territory for Russia. And, to go a bit further than what Andrea Mitchell (of all people) said, Alaska is much more than "close to" Russia but used to BE PART OF Russia.. LOL.
JamesR
· 1 year ago
[She's more fun than a barrel of Jeff Gannons.]
momof5
· 1 year ago
She fired a person that deserved to be fired.
momof5
· 1 year ago
Totally false insane statement.
kailuacaton
· 1 year ago
As a father of a special needs son(angelmans syndrome). Until you have time to thoroughly digest situation. You are in store for a emotional roller coaster of a ride through life. The first 10 years of my sons life was a constant battle. With doctors, School systems and myself. I'm just say'n it ain't easy
msskwesq
· 1 year ago
Just an added word on posted remarks: Actually, Down Syndrome babies are often born with serious problems that require quick medical attention like heart problems and digestive issues. My sister has a son with this disability and he needed surgery right after birth. Not all DS babies do and possibly Sarah Palin had testing that showed her child to be healthy, but ANY baby can have unexpected problems at birth. Flying is not a good idea late in pregnancy as the cabin pressure can cause problems for the baby. Also, if your water has broken, you have a higher risk of serious infection. I think this story about her flying late in her pregnancy and now the news that her oldest is pregnant is clear indication that Ms. Palin does not have a good handle on her family responsibilities. It seems to me she is more interested in advancing her poIitical career than being a responsible adult and parent. I raised a child alone after a divorce, was 28 at the time of my daughter's birth, college grad with a profession, and I still struggled very much. This child will have a difficult time being a parent at 17.
momof5
· 1 year ago
She has the love and support from her family. She will be fine. I got married and pregnant at 17. I'm happily married and love my life and my kids.
msskwesq
· 1 year ago
As I just wrote, I was a single parent with a small child and a profession. I had to pass on several career opportunities because I had my child to consider. I did so gladly, as I had chosen to be a parent and knew what that meant, including making decisions that was best for my family, not just my career.
Zorba
· 1 year ago
I'm willing to give the family the benefit of the doubt about Bristol being Trig's mother (in fact, I seriously doubt it, since the timing is not right, and it's far more likely that an over-40 mother would have a Down Syndrome baby than that a young mother would). But as a mother, and as a retired teacher of special needs children, I cannot fathom a mother who would fly so far after her water broke, who would go back to work full time three days later after having a special needs baby (yes, I certainly believe that women should be free to work, receive equal pay for equal work, etc, etc, but this is a child who is disabled and would especially benefit from the bonding with his mother, the full-time breast-feeding, the care and concern that is multiplied a gazillion times for a special needs child. Flame me if you want, but a newborn, especially a special needs newborn, needs his/her mother full time, for more than three days). I also cannot fathom a parent (much less a mother) who would accept the nomination to a national office, knowing the scrutiny that would ensue, if her seventeen-year-old was pregnant and unmarried, In particular if you represent a party which marches to the so-called "Family Values" drumbeat. Poor Trig. Poor Bristol. Is anyone in the Palin family, or in the Republican Party, thinking of THEIR best interests?
momof5
· 1 year ago
First off all, the thought of Trig being Bristol's son is ridiculous. Sarah did go back to work 3 days later. She took Trig with her and she is still NOW breastfeeding him. You obviously don't know much about her.
dred
· 1 year ago
Sarah Palin's dangerous behavior flying back to Alaska seems bizarre, inexplicable. First Dude explained it was because "You can't be a fish picker if you are not born in Alaska." Gov. Palin's behavior is no less bizarre, but it is explicable, when one considers her confirmed past membership in (and present allegiance to?) the Alaskan Independence Party. (Motto: "Alaska First. Alaska Always." As John McCain says, "Country First"--he just doesn't mention which country.) In other words--I know this sounds insane--Sarah Palin endangered her unborn child's life because it was so important to Sarah that her child be a native-born Alaskan, and thus eligible for citizenship in the coming independent Alaska. ABC News has now confirmed the statements of the AIP leadership that Sarah and her husband were members of the AIP before she became mayor of Wasilla. And view the warm and friendly video greetings now-Governor Palin sent to the last AIP state convention, with a number of code words that AIP members would interpret as support. Sarah Palin is so in favor of the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance. "One nation, indivisible", not so much.
momof5
· 1 year ago
I don't think she put her child in danger. Her water did not "break". She had fluid leaking. Which is pretty normal during late pregnancy. It doesn't mean you are in labor. She had 4 kids prior. I'm sure she knows what labor is. When she got to Alaska they still had to induce her. The AIP statement is false. ABC made a mistake (look it up)
fdeblauwe
· 1 year ago
I just made a comparison of the hot-button political terms abortion, gay marriage, teen pregnancy, pro-life, pro-choice using Google Trends: http://wordfaceoff.blogspot.com/2008/09/abortio.... Interesting that they're all declining among googlers.
Wesinoregon
· 1 year ago
When is the wedding? And, the father? As Dr Laura likes to say, "No ring, no wedding date, no fiance".
democratssuck
· 1 year ago
I bet you all wouldn't be so quick to bash that socialist beotch Clinton if she was in Palin's position. (But her daughter was too ugly to get laid anyway!) Why not accept the fact that none of the candidates are perfect and move on with your lives. People keep focusing on the 17-year old daughter- like that's the issue. Who cares! She's human. Get over yourselves. And a mother does not have to be with a child 24/7 for that child to bond and feel loved. For a bunch of self-righteous pro-choicers, you seem to criticize other people's choices- oh, but wait, you are democrats, the same people that state they want freedom but won't lift a finger to fight for it!
republicanslie
· 1 year ago
nice comment, your an idiot
democratssuck
· 1 year ago
i am so glad you liked it! thank you. truth hurts! :)
Isis
· 5 months ago
LOL! it does!
newmommy
· 1 year ago
your tone is a little harsh...ouch!, but you have a point. thanks for speaking out. it seem like the majority of people just wanted to jump on the bandwagon and attack Palin's parenting ability. it's not easy being a mom of a child that's not "special needs," but i have learned that there are so many different approaches to parenting, none of which are absolutely correct. i believe that some people can strike a balance between career and family. personally, she should be applauded!
specialNeedsMom
· 1 year ago
I too am a mother of a special needs child and i APPLAUD Sara for her courage and the fact that we special needs parents may actually have someone who is on our side in Washington. My son has gone without essential therapies that he needs to develop and grow because of the insurance companies denying his coverage. Maybe someone in Washington will finally get a clue and pass legislation or provide more funding and research dollars to find causes and cures for diseases like Autism. Remember there are 1 in 150 children right now (and the number grows every year) that if they don't get the therapies they need will become a huge burden on the welfare system because they won't be able to function in society. And about the posters comment about her being with her child, there are plenty of stay at home dads who can provide better than MANY stay at home mom's i know. I work full time away from the home and my kids are the most welll rounded and secure kids i know. That comment she made is bunch of 1960's way of thinking, get into the 21st century already!! I thought democrates were more "progressive" in that area. oh, yeah, only if the issues fits the way they want it to.
sunnydaz
· 1 year ago
Hi specialneedsmom-- I hope this finds it's way to you. I am the mom of a 10 year old girl with autistic spectrum disorder/PDD/NOS. Did you know that Sen Obama not only understands our plight, but that he has worked hard to help? Throughout his career in the Illinois Senate, he worked on laws for autistic kids. He was one of the first to co-sponsor Combat Autism 2005. He has a plan, just for autistics, within his healthcare plan. Also, if you go to his site-- you will find a position paper on ASD, I nearly cried when I saw that-- we are almost always invisible, it seems. He is the only candidate of the two that says it is discriminatory to not insure because of pre-existing conditions-- he is demanding that the practice be BANNED, not just worked around. He has consistenly voted to up the income levels so that more families like mine can take advantage of state funds. I hope you look into these things-- dems have fought hard for our kids. You'll see if you check it out. Who wrote Combat Autism 2005-- Dodd of CT-- a dem.
republicanslie
· 1 year ago
A few years ago, Palin cut funding for special needs programs by over 60% in Alaska so if your hoping she'll help your children, I wouldn't count on it. If she's in office, you'll be paying for others to care for HER child, not yours.
hlbroeker
· 1 year ago
This is a great post as you have addressed many of the issues regarding Palin's choices within her family -not only in regards to Trig, but also in regards to her unwed, pregnant daughter.
I think you and a lot of the people who have commented would enjoy reading some of the posts on this site. Specifically the post about the reaction to Palin's comment that she is a friend to parent's of special needs kids.
Candidate Palin, in her acceptance speech for VP, promised that families with special needs kids would have a friend and advocate in the White House. We shall see....
I'm also concerned by Governor Palin's actions as they have been "caught" by the media, both during the convention and at other times when her youngest son is present...she holds the child long enough to get a "media moment" and then this child gets handed off to one of her daughters (often the youngest) like a football or a sack of potatoes. There also has not been any time during this campaign when Mr. Palin is seen holding this child. The care and concern that these parents profess for their special needs child is certainly NOT in evidence while they are in the public eye. I hope this child is getting more than this in the privacy of his own home (but not currently from his mother who is more concerned about the "face time" on Saturday Night Live than being at home with her family!!) What a hypocrite!!!!!!
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but who is the daddy? When will this wedding take place? Has the daughter done tests to see if the child will be a special needs child? Was abortion even an option?
Obama said to back off, but I'm not going to back off because we are talking about a future President if McCain is elected.
People so thoroughly traumatized by childhood that questioning in the slightest the rigid belief system they grew up in causes them unbearable anxiety. So they have no psychological coping mechanisms but to conform absolutely, continue the cycle and enforce that belief system on their own children, and withdraw from anyone that does not also support it. The other possibility is that of a daughter of a borderline or narcissistic mother with unresolved trauma from her mother who bonds to anything she percieves as belonging to maleness or the masculine world as a form of revenge (meaing woman-hating, which is what this is). So, in short, someone not in their right mind.
'I agree that the girl should be left out of the spotlight as much as possible, but her parents' judgment needs to be thoroughly examined."
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Yes...judgment....
We already know McCain's judgment is unsound.
We do not bring this up against the teenager . . . we are trying to show the hipocracy of Sarah . She says one thing acts totally opposite. Had she been home more with less politics this young lady's future might have read differently. If she is such a good caring mother why is she leaving a 5 mo. old totally in someone elses care to perhaps repeat another unfortunate future.
She's just a shitty Mom.
Said beautifully . . . once born don't worry about medical care, a warm home, food on the table or a fair chance for a college education. Only the rich deserve that!
http://www.gregpalast.com/amy-goodman-arrested-...
thank you.
One of my nieces had a shotgun wedding at 20. Some of the family decided it was OK to miss her first wedding. (we were correct; the marriage lasted 2 or 3 years). 17 is far too young to get married in this day and age. My mom was 19 and my dad 23, but they got married 65 years ago (And are still married to each other). But in 1943, getting married is what teenagers did. Today, they're better off deciding which college they're going to.
The GOP's "no abortion" platform is more than disturbing, but no worse than the "abstinence only" message. If those kids had a condom (or the sexually active girl could have asked her mom for a GYN consultation and the Pill), there wouldn'te BE a baby to be an issue right now. But the GOP far right are more than OK with a pregnant 17 year old girl as long as she plans to marry the daddy, but the same girl can't have access to birth control.
I scanned some comments on redstate.com today. Unbelievable hypocrisy.
We're assuming that daughter is pregnant by another teenager. What if it's a 50 year old man?
Here are Lakoff's important views on this whole issue:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/george-lakoff/the...
I'd say a full-on Senate investigation is in order. Start with cookie recipes, and then ask her why she didn't teach her kids about birth control.
In short, everything about selecting Palin just seems incredibly careless, reckless and non too smart to say the least.
So here sits the daughter of a VP candidate. Knocked up by a legal adult. I either would like to know if any sort of law in Alaska has been broken, and if so and special exceptions are being made here i would like someone to bring th topic up to Palin.
Just my two cents...
http://blog.laborlawtalk.com/2006/11/07/alaska-...
It would be an interesting question to ask Palin though -- what she thinks about cases like Genarlow Wilson.
http://blog.laborlawtalk.com/2006/11/07/alaska-...
Now, if there is any hint of heavy pressure being brought to bear on the father and/or his family for political purposes (remember, Palin has a history regarding using her office to influence family matters) then that would probably be a disaster for the McCain campaign, and who knows given the lack of vetting that was done?
It would have to be more than "you should do the right thing by your girlfriend and baby" of course, but that kid must be feeling utterly cornered right now.
Fox called Michell, Obama's wife of 15 years, his "Baby Mama" on air, but now a McCain Staffer got pissy when a reporter referred to Palin's daughters fetus as a "love child".
If you are black/brown you cannot have any skeletons in your closet. If you are a fundie...you can have the skeletons in the family photos and nobody gives a damn.
I think people's families are off limits, and people's children are especially off limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics, it has no relevance to governor Palin's performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know my mother had me when she was 18. And how family deals with issues and teenage children that shouldn't be the topic of our politics and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that is off limits.
That comment goes a long way in explaining republican values
I do wonder, however, who is raising Gov. Palin's baby while she is out and about. I didn't go back to work for six months after my son was born and that was too soon in my mind. Three days is rather unbelievable regardless of how many children you've had. Although is the governor of Alaska a full-time job?
Everyone is so interested in Sarah Palin's kids. What about Joe Biden.?How many kids does he have? Who are they? How old are they? You don't see much on the news about them, do you?
Sarah is going to make an excellent VP and it scares the crap out of the libs
The other tidbit that caught my eye was the one about her husband who, with a couple of college credits but no degree to his name, has taken it upon himself to encourage high school grads to go to work directly for the oil companies instead of going to college. Wouldn't it be more advantageous for his wife's state if he were to encourage their young people to get MORE education rather than less?
"..."how can you call yerself a femanist when yer hollerin at a WOMIN, she's got a VAGINER guldangit she's WUN OF YER KIND." holy christcrackers.
That is exactly what I am hearing over and over again today, in not so many words.
I would like to know at which point did McCain think Palin was his soul-mate, was it when he found out that she had 5 children and an unwed teenage daughter or when he found out about Troopergate, or when he saw that Palin and Ted Stevens came from the same state, or, or, or, or, or when he saw she was 44 with an okay ass.
I'm sure Bristol knows what birth control is. It's not about whether she knew what birth control was. She didn't use it and she got pregnant. It's not the end of the world.
She did her best to raise her children. Unfortunately, your kids won't always do what you tell them. Her daughter made a mistake and is dealing with it. I'm sure she learned from it and Bristol will make a great mother.
Making a mistake and fixing it with another mistake(abortion) will not solve the problem. I know so many people that keep making the same mistake over and over again and keep trying to fix it by having an abortion.
At the point he realized his current wife might be a tad too old to win that "Miss Buffalo Chip" competition?
And, it's becoming more and more obvious that Palin has made more than her share of political enemies. The trooper-gate thing is nothing. It sounds like the republican big-boys have been grooming her from day one for this. More manchurian candidate than backwoods memaw.
Gov. Palin's behavior is no less bizarre, but it is explicable, when one considers her confirmed past membership in (and present allegiance to?) the Alaskan Independence Party. (Motto: "Alaska First. Alaska Always." As John McCain says, "Country First"--he just doesn't mention which country.)
In other words--I know this sounds insane--Sarah Palin endangered her unborn child's life because it was so important to Sarah that her child be a native-born Alaskan, and thus eligible for citizenship in the coming independent Alaska.
ABC News has now confirmed the statements of the AIP leadership that Sarah and her husband were members of the AIP before she became mayor of Wasilla. And view the warm and friendly video greetings now-Governor Palin sent to the last AIP state convention, with a number of code words that AIP members would interpret as support.
Sarah Palin is so in favor of the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance. "One nation, indivisible", not so much.
When she got to Alaska they still had to induce her.
The AIP statement is false. ABC made a mistake (look it up)
I hope you look into these things-- dems have fought hard for our kids. You'll see if you check it out. Who wrote Combat Autism 2005-- Dodd of CT-- a dem.
I think you and a lot of the people who have commented would enjoy reading some of the posts on this site. Specifically the post about the reaction to Palin's comment that she is a friend to parent's of special needs kids.
Candidate Palin, in her acceptance speech for VP, promised that families with special needs kids would have a friend and advocate in the White House. We shall see....
http://www.thesarahpalinstory.com/special-needs...