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AMERICAblog: Sunday Morning Open Thread

  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Good morning and Happy Fathers Day to all the dads.
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    Get Osama Bin Laden before I leave office, orders George W Bush:

    President George W Bush has enlisted British special forces in a final attempt to capture Osama Bin Laden before he leaves the White House.

    Defence and intelligence sources in Washington and London confirmed that a renewed hunt was on for the leader of the September 11 attacks. “If he [Bush] can say he has killed Saddam Hussein and captured Bin Laden, he can claim to have left the world a safer place,” said a US intelligence source.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_...
  • naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago
    Why, all of a sudden? At other times Bush has said that he was not concerned about bin Laden. I guess that will be his "legacy" and that bin Laden has been on ice somewhere for a long time waiting to be hauled out. For such a stupid man (Bush), he is expert in cynicism.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Why, all of a sudden?
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    Cuz he finally realizes what a failure all his policies have been? ....
    and all that matters to him now is his 'legacy'.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    What strikes me is how cynical he is but acts like his actions are backed by the highest ideals. It's just fucking weird from these people. Sometimes I think there is something alien about them. Like they're amoral reptilian acting from a custom of high ideals and actually believing it or something. It's really crazy making. Are we ever going to be free of them? I don't think so.
  • flashcard · 1 year ago
    So he has been saving his capture for a rainy day.
  • Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 1 year ago
    I feel saddened at the passing of Mr Russert for his wife and son. And for his NBC colleagues. But endless tributes by media people on media people says that something is VERY WRONG with the Fourth Estate right now. He reported, he was NOT the story. I think this indicates the perverse nature of our current press. They see themselves as TV stars and not reporters and certainly NOT muckrakers as in the old days when the news exposed the bullshit of government. Reread some of Marshall McCluen's work from the fifites. He predicted a lot of this sewer we are swimming in.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    He was clearly a water carrier for the powers that be MSM or they wouldn't be deifying him now. I doubt Walter Cronkite or Bill Moyers would get any tribute from chimpy with the MSM. It's grotesque and bizarre, as usual.
  • Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 1 year ago
    Russert was probably a decent man. I wonder how much "direction" he got from
    corporate suits at NBC HQ to keep it light, don't rock the boat, and support
    the preznit. I always had the feeling that perhaps he was not his own man.
  • red_dwarf · 1 year ago
    When historians analyze Russert's record it'll be clear he was a pundit for the GOP (one vision that will always surface first in the back of my mind of Russert was a little animated gif over at Bartcop that had a clown's nose on his face repeating the words "Clinton's cock". I won't go so far as to say it was the money, i.e., he was a political whore - but if it wasn't then his credibility as an intellectual has to be seriously questioned. It is sad that he passed away so young - no one would want that for just about anyone - and although Russert will not be remember as a man of integrity (once history gets finished with him) he did have his moments (whatever that means).
  • ShirleyGoodnessanMercy · 1 year ago
    Exactly. I have no idea what he was like personally, but he was definitely part of the problem as far as our useless sham media today goes.
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    I looked up MTP weekly ratings. About 3 million viewers and not as high as CBS's.
    I'll bet the average citizen has never heard of Russert, but you would think from the coverage of his passing that he was as big a star as Brad Pitt.
  • HereinDC · 1 year ago
    Going to Pride today here in DC.
    Hope I bump into you again this year John.
    :)
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    I wonder if the nazi pope will try to find some miracles he performed to bestow sainthood.
  • Fireblazes(CheetohsandCatfood) · 1 year ago
    Lets hope she helps Mcsame as much as she helped HP!

    Carly Fiorina
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    Carly Fiorina (António Milena/ABr., 2004)Cara Carleton "Carly" Fiorina (née Sneed; born September 6, 1954) is an American business executive, best known for her stint as leader of technology company Hewlett-Packard (as CEO from 1999 to 2005 and chairman of the board from 2000 to 2005). Touted as #1 "most powerful woman in business" by Forbes magazine, she led the company into a controversial merger with rival Compaq in 2002. Fiorina presided over a halving of Hewlett Packard's value during her tenure and heavy job losses.[1] She was fired by HP's board due to dissatisfaction with her performance in February 2005.

    Fiorina is also a contributor on the Fox Business Network.[2]
  • HelenaMontana · 1 year ago
    It is a puzzlement to me that the Republican party and it's propaganda arm, Fox News, worship failure so blatantly.
  • Fireblazes(CheetohsandCatfood) · 1 year ago
    But nobody in the media will mention her failure at HP. They will talk about how powerful and inspirational a WOMAN she is. As though this is all that is needed to attract Hillary's backers. I really do not think it will gain Mcinsane any traction.
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Nancy Pelosi values? Hardly. She won't even consider impeachment. Her table is clean...

    Besides, I don't watch MSM fawning. It's disgusting and makes me lose my breakfast.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    I don't watch any cable or the networks but just briefly for the weather. Even the local news is stupidly in on it. There was a feature last December where they had a story about "taking Christmas out of Christmas" or some of the O'Reily crazy. They would say "Merry Christmas" instead of "Happy Holidays." It's all just incredibly stupid. Nothing in the media is worth watching. PBS in somewhat infiltrated by the fundies and other right wing hacks. Now they're going to digital and making me pay now instead of the rabbit ears.
  • Vinvin · 1 year ago
    If you are in SF and don't come to visit us 10 minutes I just stop to read your blog for ever. ;-)

    Vinvin (seesmic / 365 Vermont Street. SF)
  • BorninUSA · 1 year ago
    Having never been a real big fan of Russerts and I in no way would ever demean the tribute to a man who was very influential in the news world, but to have a "love fest" for two days? Who would have ever thought that some of these people were his "very best friends." In the last few years I did not watch Meet the Press and especially won't today; Carville and Matalin are on. These two are the biggest jokes in MSN. Their only claim to fame is he worked for Clinton and she worked for Cheney. Whoopee!

    This all being said I do feel for Russert's family as you never expect this to happen to a man his age without any warning signs. Thankfully he lived to see his son graduate from college and they as a family celebrated that event. His being gone will leave a big gap on television. Lately he was more visible then ever before. It was evident he loved politics.
  • OleHippieChick · 1 year ago
    I echo your sympathy for Russert's actual family and his real friends and colleagues, like KO. But all these posters who are weeping over his demise, they didn't know him, they weren't his family, so I don't get where they're coming from.
    I turned off MTP years ago b/c Russert never met a follow-up question he liked. Yeah, he'd ask some "tough" questions, but he'd let them waffle around and blow him off. And his nostalgia for WWII, the "good war,' like he was already 80 years old and sitting in the Legion hall, was just insufferable smarm to me.
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Let's get down to the nitty-gritty here and look at the thing for itself. Having worked in the corporate world for several years, I saw what was happening. It didn't matter if you were brilliant, educated, innovative, or whatever. What really counts is how much you kiss ass on your way up and how much you agree with the Big Boys who actually run things.

    Of course, that also applied to smaller companies as well. Standing up for yourself and others against blatant or even covert discrimination? Expect to be blackballed when you don't play ball...

    So, has anyone else noticed that the most "important" MSM figures in the world of news and "analysis" are all white men? They have an agenda--their own. And yes, you can write off Katie Couric, Barbara Walters, etc. even Oprah--they're only there for the entertainment value, never to taken seriously by White Boy journalists who see them as an "adjunct" to their own brand of opportunism, money, and stenography. And they can say, "See? America doesn't want Katie Couric. She's too (insert wrong quality for "serious" journalism here)."
  • jurassicpork · 1 year ago
    And now, a Father's Day message from President George W. Bush, who reminds us that fatherhood is all about terrorism.
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    Tim who?
  • LanceThruster · 1 year ago
    I now realize that the accolades of his colleagues who are essentially saying Russert was one of the best we had in the field is a way to try to help absolve themselves for their shortcomings. The bar is truly set quite low.

    I even heard the old chestnut, “he was a guy you wanted to have a beer with.”

    Boy, would I (just to unload).

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    Also, better than Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco values are Cindy Sheehan's.

    www.cindyforcongress.org
  • warsaw · 1 year ago
    If these TV journalists can sanctify Russert; if they can freeze in the memory of the public the idea that Russert was the most brilliant, the most powerful, the most "magnificent" (Mike Barnacle today on MTP), then each of them is elevated in some way by their association with him. The desperate efforts this weekend by the staff hacks at MSNBC to secure their places as Tim's favorites, disregarding all of their better journalistic instincts to not overwrite the story by talking endlessly, in ever increasing levels of hyperbole and bombast, trying to outdo one another as if they were siblings locked into a lethal rivalry, elbowing each other out of the way with ever more obscure and minuscule examples of their own true place as the recipient of Time's real intimacy, has done no favors for Russert's long term reputation. This is the reverseof "damned by faint praise." It could be called "diminished by excessive praise."
    MTP this morning is like an Ionesco play in it's absurdity. It is a televised Irish wake without the booze (maybe not). Fun for those blubbering away about som dead guy but irrelevant and boring for those watching.
    So to reiterate: Russert resembled in no way any of the Kennedys; was only a mediocre journalist; was likable but not lovable; advanced the careers of his friends and fostered and sustained a practice of mid level journalism as exhibited by the weakness of the content of all of NBC news.
    This display of self romanticizing hubris will come back to haunt NBC news. Who greenlighted this weekend's coverage of Russert's death?
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    "diminished by excessive praise."

    Bravo!
    I agree that this weekend's Long Days Journey Into Tim has diminished an already damaged MSM (not just the peacock network) with schitzy alcoholic projection worthy of the dankest corner bar.
    Most interesting points distilled from the hubris:
    --Tim worked 7 days a week (not much time for Nantucket, eh?)
    --Andrea Mitchell was twice denied the White House beat (her spotty Kool Kid place was assured once she married AG)
    --Tim regularly dictated David Gregory's White House Daily Briefing questions
  • warsaw · 1 year ago
    People who work 7 days a week, and who are not poor, have deep seated father issues. Think big Russ was sort of withholding despite all of Tim's efforts to be the #1 sibling?
  • Fireblazes(CheetohsandCatfood) · 1 year ago
    He was rewarded with a massive heart attack at 58. His family gets a big insurance policy and memories of an absent Dad.
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    Fer sure...And Big Russ translated easily into Big GE...
  • scottinsf · 1 year ago
    Joe certainly picked a great week to visit. Marriage equality on Tuesday. He should hang out around City Hall and people watch if he wants a big smile. If he wants to go to a good old San Francisco protest he can join us at Moscone Center West on Thursday to show our collective disgust in the health insurance industry and the parasitic lobbyists it employs. I'm sure I'll come up with some other good ideas.
  • jr · 1 year ago
    Happy Father's Day to the dads who read Americablog
  • Webster · 1 year ago
    rEuNsOsUeGrHt ALREADY!
  • chowderSF · 1 year ago
    Hey Joe, bring a sweater and other warm clothes, that famous fog has rolled over Twin Peaks and while the rest of the Bay Area is nice an warm, San Francisco is chilly.