DISQUS

AMERICAblog: Sunday Talk Shows Open Thread

  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Frank Rich in the NY Times:

    “We’re succeeding,” Mr. McCain said after his last trip to Iraq. “I don’t care what anybody says.” Again, it’s the last sentence that’s accurate. When General Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker testify before Congress again this week — against the backdrop of a million-Iraqi, anti-American protest called by Mr. Sadr — Mr. McCain will ram home all this “success” no matter the facts.

    .....he equates staying the disastrous course with patriotism. Mr. McCain’s doomed promise of military “victory” in Iraq is akin to Wile E. Coyote’s perpetual pursuit of the Road Runner, with much higher carnage. This isn’t patriotism...

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/06/opinion/06ric...
  • Bia · 1 year ago
    We were up early, in time to see Jesse Ventura on Larry King..
    (No wonder they only air it early mornings and late nights!)
    Jesse came out swinging, but regrettably I did not hear him
    mention his "new revelations" about 9/11, namely that he now
    realizes it was probably an INSIDE JOB. I guess THAT would
    have gotten him blackballed entirely!
    I'll see it I can find the link at OPEdNews, where I've been
    spending a lot of time writing lately.
    Here it is:
    http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?...

    Jesse Venture "kicks himself" for not realizing on 9/11
    the WTC collapses were controlled demolitions.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Robert M. Duncan, the chairman of the Republican National Committee called on Obama to
    to speak out and publicly reject and denounce Ed Schultz (of Air America) remarks that McCain is a war-monger.

    war·mon·ger
    –noun

    http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/if-shoe-...

    I am sick of the crap the whining and crying babies in the GOP dish out....and
    when someone speaks truth they can't take it.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    war·mon·ger
    –noun
    a person who advocates, endorses, or tries to precipitate war.

    And that's exactly what you are MoreWar McCain....a war monger.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    'Stop-Loss',,,,,,, a powerful and heartfelt new drama from director Kimberly Peirce,

    With echoes of The Best Years of Our Lives, The Deer Hunter, Coming Home and Born on the Fourth of July, this could arguably be billed as the first substantive film to address the plight of Iraq war vets.

    It is interesting to peruse the discussion boards on the Internet Movie Database regarding this film. As you might guess, there is predictable wing nut blather condemning the film as anti-American, anti-war hippie propaganda. But the most telling comments are coming from Iraq veterans, who for the most part seem to indicate that the film rings true. Hmmm, I wonder which of those two camps is more likely to know of what they speak?

    http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/saturday...
  • DavidinChelseaMA · 1 year ago
    One, one, one, one-hundred years. One, one, one, one-hundred years.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    "I'd much rather lose a campaign than lose a war," McCain declared, to which Barry Crimmins responded, hey, "How about both?" You know, consider a two-fer. But don't go dangling the shroud of Vietnam before us.

    http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/blogs/wolcot...
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    “I don’t care what anybody says.”

    Neither did Donald Rumsfeld.
  • jr · 1 year ago
    "you are the wind beneath my wings"-every sunday show booker to Lindsey Graham
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Bill Clinton, Remnick writes, was infuriated at "the way the Democrats were beating each other up about the past (in other words: Hillary’s 2002 Senate vote authorizing the President to use force in Iraq) rather than forming a coherent alternative to the White House’s stay-the-course rhetoric. “This deal with Iraq makes me want to throw up,” he said. “I’m sick and tired of being told that if you voted for authorization you voted for the war. It was a mistake, and I would have made it, too. And Congress made it once before, at the Gulf of Tonkin resolution.” The blame was with the White House: “The Administration did not shoot straight on the nuclear issue or on Saddam’s supposed ties to Al Qaeda prior to 9/11.”

    http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog...

    I guess citizens shouldn't have expected Hillary to actually read the NIE???
  • Savage8862 · 1 year ago
    I have been flooding all the network hosts email boxes asking the m to report on John McCain breaking campaign finance laws and why they aren't covering it. Apparently the network hosts could care less what a viewer wants.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Guess we can take Charlton Heston's gun out of his "cold, dead hands" now.

    LOS ANGELES (April 6) - Charlton Heston, who won the 1959 best actor Oscar as the chariot-racing "Ben-Hur" and portrayed Moses, Michelangelo, El Cid and other heroic figures in movie epics of the '50s and '60s, has died. He was 84.
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    It's important to Washington to have a war going on. It diverts the attention of Joe Six Pack from the theft of everything that isn't nailed down. It covers up the welfare for Wall Street. It allows them to toe tap and wear diapers. It allows the politicians who allowed the 9/11 attack to claim they are getting even with our enemies. It is another sure fire way to loot the Treasury in the name of the Homeland Security. It allows McCain to wrap the American flag around his shoulders and claim to be a real certifiable hero. Even more heroic would be for Bush to acknowledge the dead soldiers and attend a few funerals. But Chimpy follows his mommies lead.

    "Why should we hear about body bags and deaths," Barbara Bush said on ABC's "Good Morning America" on March 18, 2003. "Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"

    McCain also accused John Murtha of getting too emotional because he attended too many funerals at Arlington Cemetary.

    War has always been good for American companies.
  • bumpkis · 1 year ago
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    lynchie...

    The cavalier attitude this administration has towards war and its victims is appalling.
  • kenosharick · 1 year ago
    You mention Dean's "50 state strategy." Nice theory- but it is really a 48 state strategy since he and the Obama campaign have disenfranchised the voters of Mich & Fla., and it may just cost them the general election. Proves Obama will do anything to win the nom.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    You mention Dean's "50 state strategy." Nice theory- but it is really a 48 state strategy since he and the Obama campaign have disenfranchised the voters of Mich & Fla., and it may just cost them the general election. Proves Obama will do anything to win the nom.

    ----

    And Hillary agreed to excluding Michigan and Florida before she disagreed with it.

    But I guess trying to change the rules after the games been played proves Hillary will do anything to "win the nom."
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    OT (since no one is discussing it anyway)

    Clinton is at it again. I don't mean to jump on the Clinton bashing bandwagon but honestly, this is not bashing. It is pointing out that Hillary is less than honest. Her latest snafu is trying to rewrite her history on Iraq. Jake Tapper (who I don't like) just wrote about Clinton telling audiences she was against Iraq BEFORE Obama was against it. LIke that is going to explain her Yes vote? I don't get the woman, I really don't. She has told numerous outright lies and she thinks she is fit to be president? We already have lived for 8 years under a liar, I don't want another one.

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04...
  • Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago
    Grandma: Again you say it so succinctly. Please forgive me but I am just repeating as it can't be put any better:

    war·mon·ger
    –noun
    a person who advocates, endorses, or tries to precipitate war.

    And that's exactly what you are MoreWar McCain....a war monger.
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    "Proves Obama will do anything to win the nom."

    Keep telling yourself that.
  • topsyturvy8 · 1 year ago
    Me thinks Miss Graham is auditioning to be considered for McCain's VP. As a SC native, THAT would be interesting ... digging around in the closet of this confirmed bachelor.
  • Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago
    Incredible but true! Looks like Dubya ia trying to rerun the same old episode of "Listening to the Generals" that worked so well for him before the surge. The only reason Patraeus is in charge now is because he was the only one before who was willing to suck up and agree to do what Dubya and Dirty Dick told him they wanted. Mediocre at best before, Petraeus is a fawning lickspittle who is unfit to wear the uniform, but there he'll be right next to Crocker, a fifth-rate hack, giving congress their invaluable opinions as to what Dubya thinks he wants. Just how stupid and uncomprehending can the American people and their congress be? It beggars description if they go on to believe these paid liars for the administration. And then we have the MSM who continue to give Insane McCain a free ride with no investigation of a past that is more and more questionable the more one finds out about it. McCain is no hero, war or otherwise, but MSM are apparently quite willing for him to wrap himself in the flag, like the scoundrel he is, and continue to do the will of their corporate masters. Come on, Insane is a greater liar than the Clintons put together. Is it going to take a 21st century revolution for the people to take back the government?
  • tas · 1 year ago
    One more reason to beg Howard Dean to stay in charge of the DNC for the next 20 years. Fuck Rahm and those others who want to go the the prior status quo.
  • RevDrBillyBob · 1 year ago
    Once again you godless heathen libruls fails to understand that John McCain has been anointed by God.