DISQUS

AMERICAblog: Sunday Talk Shows Open Thread

  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Typically, George Stephanopoulos only has a Clinton supporter -- McAuliffe.

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    A Clinton supporter interviewing another Clinton supporter.

    "Gee Terry: Do you think Hillary is a Genius or just Very, Very Smart?"

    "I don't know George. She could be either. What do you think?"

    "I just can't make up my mind, Terry! She sure is beautiful too!"

    "Yes, George, she is very beautiful too!"

    "Oh, I know, I know....."
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Maybe Clinton next will be The Woman Who Can Show Other Women How to Have It All...even if you aren't as rich and politically connected as I am.

    What has she actually done for any women in this country? Her entire career has been self-concentrated and egocentric, and, in politics, the only thing she's done is carpetbag in NY and got elected US Senator--no other political history I can see because First Lady doesn't count even if your husband does give you a bit of something to do, and the rest of her career was promoting corporations and getting ahead hanging on to Bill's coat tails.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Without Bill, Hillary would be a state rep from Arknasas at best. She sorely like face time political skills. She is better working behind the scenes. Obama could use an ally like her in the Senate.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Face the Nation isn't much better.

    Poor Claire McCaskill has to duke it out with Two Clinton sleazeballs.
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    Who cares if McCain has "mis spoken" about Iraq a few times - like 100% of the time and in a way that demonstrates persistent absence of command over basic factual information?
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    McCain's an idiot.

    I'd heard he was kind of dumb, but didn't really realize the extent of his mental limitations until recently.
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    Graduated nearly last in his class at Annapolis.

    Still, recent blunders seem also indicative of progressive memory loss and other cognitive deficits.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    And, you know, who knows how much of him getting into Annapolis and graduating at all was due to his dad being an Admiral.

    Alot, I'm guessing. Just like Bush living off his family's legacy.
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    Submediocre-Rich-Boy 2.0
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Frank Rich today:

    Now Mr. McCain is chastising Mr. Obama for not having visited Iraq since 2006 — a questionable strategy, you’d think, given that Mr. McCain’s own propagandistic visit to a “safe” Baghdad market is one of his biggest embarrassments. Then again, in his frantic efforts to explain why he sided with Mr. Bush to oppose an expanded G.I. bill that the Senate passed by 75 to 22, Mr. McCain has attacked Mr. Obama for not enlisting in the military.

    Besides making Mr. McCain look ever angrier next to his serene opponent, this eruption raises the question of why he chose double-standard partisanship over principle by not applying this criterion to the blunderers who took us into Iraq. Unlike Mr. Obama, who was 7 years old in 1968, Mr. Bush and company could have served in Vietnam as Mr. McCain did.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/01/opinion/01ric...
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    McCain to Obama:

    "Show me your rugs!"
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Yawn! It's done, it's over with, Clinton supporters can do as they please...even vote for McBush, although I wouldn't call them democrats at all.

    If there are few differences in policies between Obama and Clinton, why would they ever vote for McBush, whose policies are a mirror image of The Chimp's? I just think they're full of shit, bitter even...bitter, bitter, bitter. Yes, I'll say it! Again, bitter! OK, so I wasn't happy with Kerry in 2004, like many, but I still voted Democrat. Either your political philosophy matches up (even somewhat) with a party, or you go somewhere else at some point.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Funny.

    Sometimes I think I'm the only Democrat who liked Kerry.

    Though, admittedly, he's not the best campaigner.
  • HelenaMontana · 1 year ago
    I've never forgiven him for flip-flopping on the Iraq vote or for running such a piss-poor presidential campaign--it was horribly cringe-inducing. He was appealing when he was younger, but he's calcified into a Brahmin with much the same sense of entitlement as H. Clinton, Although I will say, he's shown some principles this year and has redeemed himself a bit by endorsing Obama.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Australia leaves the Coalition of the Running:

    About 500 Australian combat troops today have begun pulling out of their base in southern Iraq.
    A British military spokesman in the southern city of Basra said the pullout from Talil base in Nassiriya was underway.

    But a spokesman for the governor of Dhi Qar province said it had been completed, with US forces replacing the Australians.


    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/1/8235/366...
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    BB, is that guy from Iceland still there?

    : )
  • jr · 1 year ago
    too many Harriet Christianites for me to bother turning the tv on
  • BorninUSA · 1 year ago
    With McAuliffe, Ickes, and don't forget Bill, running her campaign kind of says it all doesn't it? They are preparing Obama well to go up against McCain. The repugs can't be any nastier than the Clinton gang. I am getting tired of the MSM saying "Oh, this is just politics." Obama needs to ignore the advice of the MSM. He will do fine choosing his running mate without all the hype of the media. How on earth could putting Hillary on the ticket be good? She and Bill have been divisive since the beginning. They will continue to do anything they can to undermine Obama. Even if she is on the ticket with him. As far as I am concerned Hillary hasn't earned a damn thing!
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    No, Bill and Hillary would just sabotage him.

    Obama/Webb
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Obama needs someone he can trust as VP. The trust factor rules out Clinton.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Bill Richarsdson or Wesley Clark would be decent VP choices for Obama.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    I like Clark--and he's a Hillaryite, so that would help heal the party.

    Richardson looks great on paper, but just doesn't come off that well on TV.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Agreed Richardson is not made for cameras. He needs to keep the goatee going.
  • AnalyticalLiberal · 1 year ago
    Of course, the Clinton campaign will NOT act in any way to unify the Party IF that means she has to quit her Don Quiote-like tilting at the nomination windmills. To-Wit: this a.m. on Fox, Howard Wolfson said "it's not over by a long shot," and like Ickes on Saturday at the R&BC meeting, Wolfson said that Clinton will challenge the Michigan decision over her loss of a net two convention votes (even though Obama gave up 19 in Florida in his efforts to reach an acceptable outcome for all parties).

    Ickes is a thug; when he plays on "our" team, most would like - or, at least, accept - his efforts because the ends "justify" the means. Now, Ickes' efforts are solely for the benefit of Clinton at the very real harm to the overall Party interests - and the country, too - and that is just flat intolerable. Clinton seems hell-bent on her quest, even if - or, more conspiratorially - because she knows that SHE won't be the nominee and, because of her Rovian tactics against Obama, HE won't be the president. We cannot afford even one more day of McSame as President, let alone 4 more years.

    As Howard Dean related at the start of the R&BC meeting Saturday, in 2004 when the traditional media had turned on him and he was in agony on how he could proceed, Howard got a call from Al Gore that set his mind back into the proper frame of reference: Al Gore said to him: "This isn't about you, Howard; it's about your country." Someone needs to remind Hillary of that truism; it's time for her to learn what it means to be a real patriot of the people, as did those first patriots who, in 1776, concluded their Declaration of Independence with the following pledge: "And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor." Humbly, my advice to Hillary: Go, and do likewise.
  • Butch1 · 1 year ago
    Clinton is never going to play nice. She, her husband and her daughter are going "full-steam-ahead" in their quest for the presidency in Puerto Rico defying the will of the Democratic party. This has to stop this week, and the super-delegates know what they need to do with this "loose-cannon." She is going to force this issue so she can continue to play the victim and whine about sexism when they force her to stop this madness, and it actually has all to do with regarding her inability to win a nomination. It's really time for this "dog 'n pony" show to be over. Hillary, it is past time for you to just go away since you can't win this and now I think, it is past time you could stop this with dignity. The party will have to do it for you since you are too arrogant and pompous to see the writing on the wall. It is my hope that New Yorkers will take a second look at the person she has shown the world she really is and vote her out of office. She doesn't deserve the honor of serving her country as a senator.

    I would have voted for her had she actually one the nomination but this trying to ignore the facts and steal the election is unacceptable and I now, would never vote for her, period. It's ashame she would put her career in politics on the line like this, and what a sore loser she is.
  • Butch1 · 1 year ago
    "Without Bill, Hillary would be a state rep from Arknasas at best. She sorely like face time political skills. She is better working behind the scenes. Obama could use an ally like her in the Senate." - tbhull
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    Of course, the key word in your last sentence is "ally." This woman would never be his ally, not after all she has done in the run up to the nomination. As Edward Albee has said, ( and I paraphrase ) "That's a lot of blood under the bridge."
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    Hillary must know her role as junior Senator from New York. Clinton can shine Obama's shoes or carry his water pale, whatever it takes to assist the new leader of the party and the next pres, all while Bill jets around the world on a never ending international fuckfest.
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    Grunwald, McCauliff, Rendell still whining, still claiming foul, still playing the poor female, the popular vote, they still dismiss Obama and claim if Hillary is not given the nomination they will lose more votes than if Obama is turfed in the trash pile. Yesterday proved nothing to these people. They are not about unity. They are not about winning the White House unless it is for Hillary. I ask again, if you agreed to the sanctions against Florida and Michigan how can you now claim that you should count those states. Not a single person yesterday asked that questions of the creep Ickes, whose vulgar, rude comments epitomized the Clinton campaign. Personally, I would have given them nothing and made them abide by the sanctions they (12 Clinton supporters) signed. Chuck Todd said it best yesterday, "this is no longer the Clinton Democratic Party, it is the party of Obama".

    They all talk about Hillary being unifying but continue to whine. You lost, WE won, You lost, WE won. Childish, you betcha.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    scotty says bush should've kept his word and fired rove for leaking...
    wow. he does sound just like a left-wing blogger: CORRECT.

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/138926
  • feeba · 1 year ago
    Clinton has taken Kentucky and Obama is right there in Oregon.
    The Democratic race for nomination is still very much alive – and most likely to be decided by superdelegates – as CNN points out clearly

    http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/20/prim...

    If you’re tired of waiting around for those super delegates to make a decision already, go to LobbyDelegates.com and push them to support Clinton or Obama

    If you haven't done so yet, please write a message to each of your state's superdelegates at http://www.lobbydelegates.com

    Obama Supporters:

    Sending a note to current Obama supporters lets them know it's appreciated, sending a note to current Clinton supporters can hopefully sway them to change their vote to Obama, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Obama. It's that easy...

    Clinton Supporters too …. !

    It takes a moment, but what's a few minutes now worth to get Clinton in office?! Those are really worth !

    Sending a note to current Clinton supporters lets them know it's appreciated, sending a note to current Obama supporters can hopefully sway them to change their vote to Clinton, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Clinton. It's that easy...