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AMERICAblog: Sunday Talk Shows Open Thread

  • Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 10 months ago
    Oh now let's see...the growing irrelevant MSM...dying now as is the newspaper business...let's see who we can parade out today on our increasingly irrelevant "news" talking heads shows! Yes, this will play well to the people out there who do not read things online but listen to corporate power feeding them the messages of how good BushCo was for them. Cheney should be in a jail cell right now in the Hague, not on a talk show.
  • Gbennett · 10 months ago
    Rabbi Michael Lerner has what I found to be a helpful take on the Gaza situation. Israel may be right, but they are not being smart.

    http://www.truthout.org/010209R
  • hunkerdown · 10 months ago
    It will take years to ingest before historians can truly get a handle on what is missing. History is truly the poorer for the Bush administration. President-elect Barack Obama must quickly undo the damage by ordering that records be shielded from political interference, by repairing the freedom-of-information process, and by ending the abuse of the classification process to cloak the truths of the presidency.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/04/opinion/04sun...

    Michael Connell, the Bush IT expert who has been directly implicated in the rigging of George Bush’s 2000 and 2004 elections, was killed last night when his single engine plane crashed three miles short of the Akron airport. Velvet Revolution (“VR”), a non-profit that has been investigating Mr. Connell’s activities for the past two years, can now reveal that a person close to Mr. Connell has recently been discussing with a VR investigator how to tell all about his work for George Bush. Mr. Connell told a close associate that he was afraid that the George Bush and Dick Cheney would “throw [him] under the bus.”

    A tipster close to the McCain campaign disclosed to VR in July that Mr. Connell’s life was in jeopardy and that Karl Rove had threatened him and his wife, Heather. VR’s attorney, Cliff Arnebeck, notified the United States Attorney General, Ohio law enforcement and the federal court about these threats and insisted that Mr. Connell be placed in protective custody. VR also told a close associate of Mr. Connell’s not to fly his plane because of another tip that the plane could be sabatoged. Mr. Connell, a very experienced pilot, has had to abandon at least two flights in the past two months because of suspicious problems with his plane. On December 18, 2008, Mr. Connell flew to a small airport outside of Washington DC to meet some people. It was on his return flight the next day that he crashed.
    www.rovecybergate.com. http://www.velvetrevolution.us/
  • Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 10 months ago
    Oh man if this is true...and it well could be...THIS finally then would send Rove into his orange suit frog march. Oh please, the god of hope, please make this story grow legs and turn out to be possible.
  • ShirleyGoodnessanMercy · 10 months ago
    Ditto!
  • Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 10 months ago
    It probably won't go anywhere. Washington is ready to get past the nightmare of Bush.
  • maudgonne · 10 months ago
    next we have to see how long Cliff Arnebeck lives.....
  • Older_Wiser · 10 months ago
    Why is CNN giving the reactionary, racist Mark Sanford face time? Oh, right. For the same reason others are giving Cheney, Bush, Romney and McConnell air time. Of course, I could do without Harry Reid as well...but the question remains: will the Dems permit Reid and Pelosi to continue their powerful positions? If so, we're going to be screwed by the Dems, too.
  • brian · 10 months ago
    I want to hear what the wimp Reid and the obstructionist McConnell has to say. I guess when Republicans obstruct it is okay, but when Democrats do it then we need to change the rules of the Senate.
  • grandma · 10 months ago
    I don't know who is the announcer right now on CNN....but she just said the MN Board will meet late tomorrow to announce the winner of the MN Senate race, either Al Franken or Norm Coleman.

    huh....CNN should get their facts straight....or don't they know there was a recount yesterday.
  • brian · 10 months ago
    Don't forget the votes for the Flying Spaghetti Monster and Lizard People. We don't want to count them out just yet.
  • grandma · 10 months ago
    Via Kos:

    The US Senate
    Can the Senate seat Senator Franken (ooohh that sounds nice to type) without a Certificate of Election? On the strength of the State Canvassing Board's certification, yes they can. (Precedent: Sen. Mary Landreiu of Louisiana seated while various court actions were still pending.

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/1/4/7422...
  • grandma · 10 months ago
    Another great column by Frank Rich today:

    WE like our failed presidents to be Shakespearean, or at least large enough to inspire Oscar-worthy performances from magnificent tragedians like Frank Langella. So here, too, George W. Bush has let us down. Even the banality of evil is too grandiose a concept for 43.........He is smaller than life.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/04/opinion/04ric...
  • RobertSanDimas · 10 months ago
    You beat me to it, grandma. Rich has done it again. Everyone out there, be sure to read Frank today between talk shows. It's the ultimate skewering of the Disaster in Chief.
  • Jay · 10 months ago
    It's weird how big a deal some folks made when Burris and Rush talked about needing an African-American in the Senate to replace Obama but how little a deal is being made about Reid saying - before Burris' and Rush's statements - that he didn't want various African-Americans to replace Obama because he didn't think they could get elected in a statewide race. Seems like Burris and Rush were directly responding to Reid but Reid gets a pass while they got vilified.
  • Donna Z · 10 months ago
    I'm picking up a new talking point from McConnell. Several times he's prefaced the biggest-lie yammer of "bipartisan" with some garbage about how "half the American people are represented by republican senators." Simple math tells us that 60% vs 40% is not half. But looking inside that statement one notices that many of the states represented by republicans have low populations. Of course no one will question this talking point.
  • TheOriginalLiz · 10 months ago
    Politicians are generally pretty safe when they lie about anything that isn't salacious.
  • Ann · 10 months ago
    I had exactly the same question. Even if the Senate were half Republican, they wouldn't begin to represent half the American people. Does anyone have the math handy on this?
  • RevDrBillyBob · 10 months ago
    Reid is a loyal supporter of the Bush Administration, and has been since the beginning. Who will now give him orders ? McConnell ? The other Wimpocrats are just as loyal, so their anxiety at this difficult time (transition) is understandable. And Feingold and Sanders are showing NO signs of independence, as they once did. As George Wallace once said (it was, apparently, the only time he was right): "There's not a dime's worth of difference between the Democratic and Republican Parties."
  • cowboyneok · 10 months ago
    Harry Reid gets his marching orders from Salt Lake City.
  • CDS2 · 10 months ago
    Harry Reid made an absolute fool of himself by not acknowledging the fact that the surge was a success, and recanting his comment that "the war is lost". He should be ashamed of himself.
  • RevDrBillyBob · 10 months ago
    The "surge" is taking credit for the sectarian cleansing that took place at the hands of the various factions ? Really ? Is this the best that the Chickenhawks can do ? YIKES.
  • maudgonne · 10 months ago
    The most detailed polling of Palestinians, by the University of Maryland, found that 72 per cent want a two-state solution on the 1967 borders, while fewer than 20 per cent want to reclaim the whole of historic Palestine. So, partly in response to this pressure, Hamas offered Israel a long, long ceasefire and a de facto acceptance of two states, if only Israel would return to its legal borders.

    Rather than seize this opportunity and test Hamas's sincerity, the Israeli government reacted by punishing the entire civilian population. It announced that it was blockading the Gaza Strip in order to "pressure" its people to reverse the democratic process. The Israelis surrounded the Strip and refused to let anyone or anything out. They let in a small trickle of food, fuel and medicine – but not enough for survival. Weisglass quipped that the Gazans were being "put on a diet". According to Oxfam, only 137 trucks of food were allowed into Gaza last month to feed 1.5 million people. The United Nations says poverty has reached an "unprecedented level." When I was last in besieged Gaza, I saw hospitals turning away the sick because their machinery and medicine was running out. I met hungry children stumbling around the streets, scavenging for food.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentato...
  • Older_Wiser · 10 months ago
    The unemployment level in Gaza is over 60%; 75% are in poverty. This is nothing short of genocide, IMHO.
  • RevDrBillyBob · 10 months ago
    We should be grateful to have CDS commenting here ... without him, we wouldn't have much of an idea of what Chickenhawks "think".
  • jurassicpork · 10 months ago
    "We're seeing the brutal extermination of a people that briefly brings to mind the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan from 29 years ago that saw the murder, maiming and displacement of a full third of their population. We're hearing bleats from Israel that contemptibly sound like the abuser whining about being abused as a child. With the kind of supreme irony that only a wide palette of geopolitical history can offer, Israel in their flashbacks of the Holocaust has become akin to the Nazi party."
  • Boycottutah · 10 months ago
    Wasn't it just last week when team Obama's tool Axelrod stated that having homohating Warren, you know the guy who thinks we should murder other world leaders, is a "good thing"? Love the talking points issued by team Obama. They learned a lot from Rove and now we are going to have eight more years of total Bushit (unless he does a Jimmy Carter and totally screws up).
  • Boycottutah · 10 months ago
    Don't worry people, Obama has his guidebook (The Bible) to follow, and great policy experts to consult (Rick Warren).
  • eaprez · 10 months ago
    Harry Reid once again acted like a member of the loosing/minority party rather than the majority. I think both him and Pelosi need to be replaced.