AMERICAblog: Superdelegate Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) may wait 10 days to pick a team
Chris From Maine
· 1 year ago
a weak Democrat who has no spine? Wow.. I'm shocked.
We learned this in 2007 when the Democrats literally bent over for King George and gave him everything he wanted everytime he asked for it.
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· 1 year ago
ha ha The democrats are even afraid of each other.
FunMe
· 1 year ago
Another reason we should "kick the bums out" and I mean the Democrat bums, and bring in better and real Democrats.
debbee
· 1 year ago
Post up at DU that a Dr. Karmarck a Clinton SuperD poster states the Dr. told his class that Clinton called and she's ending it tomorrow? *shrugging shoulders*
Chris From Maine
· 1 year ago
one can only hope.
mirth
· 1 year ago
According to the comments on that DU thread, Dr. Karmarck's last class was May 1st.
debbee
· 1 year ago
Yeah, I thought it sounded too good to be true.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Obama's people are too nice.
From everything I've read, the Clinton people have been threatening Super Ds to the point that they're scared to cross the Clintons.
Obama's people have to play hardball too.
Chris From Maine
· 1 year ago
The Clintons have resorted to out and out bribery. Blackmail is not out of the question either.
Most superdelegates were scared of the wrath of Clinton if they backed Obama, so they held off and hedged their bets, hardly surprising since most of them are politicians, and hedging is job #1.
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· 1 year ago
It's embarassing. How the fuck did I wind up in this political party? Fucking Pelosi needs to be investigated for taking "impeachment off the table." Something's there.
FunMe
· 1 year ago
That SKANK Pelosi lost any respect I had for her when she became the House leader with her lame "impeachment is off the table". As someone said, she should also be investigated since she has not fulfilled her duties she took an oath for.
All these CLOWNS who enable and play same old politics that only helps them and not We The People need to be booted out of the Democratic party and replaced with better and real Democrats.
FNReedie
· 1 year ago
While I hate the idea of not impeaching, most Americans don't follow politics at all and have no clue of what really happened or what continues to happen. Where would we be now if the last 2 years was filled with impeachment? We would be with the Republicans saying that the Dems wasted their time on a political witch hunt. The Dems could not impeach because they voted for Bush's policies on far too many issues.
Rab
· 1 year ago
You are correct sir. I would personally like to throw shub out of office but there was no time left and the fact of letting this go on is positive for the sheeple. Shrub is our president and the sheep need to know they voted for him.
Who cares? Someone wants to let the political process complete. Be still my beating heart....
If you have your panties in such a serious wad that an extra couple weeks will be the difference between McCain or not, well then you're much worse off than you thought.
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· 1 year ago
OK, the process will be over tomorrow. K?
Coming Undone
· 1 year ago
If there are no more primaries, what exactly is the point of waiting? This is exactly why the Democrats could not take on the Republicans because they are afraid to make any decision at all. When Obama gets to the delegate nomination number tomorrow or Wednesday how can these people not get behind the Dem nominee.
If I was an Independent I would ask how can I vote for a Democrat when they cannot even back their own nominee. This is outrageous and it makes all Democrats look weak , the Clinton's and the Republicans keep taking our lunch money.
jr
· 1 year ago
Wyden thinks billionaires should only have to pay 35 percent income tax with his so called "progressive flat tax"
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· 1 year ago
ha ha "progressive flat tax." Those cons.
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· 1 year ago
I've been threatened locally for writing about human rights. All kinds of weird calls on the telephone. It's an odd feeling at night coming home and you don't know if some crazy closet case is going to jump out and hit you on the back of the head.
Doesn't he realize that he IS part of the process?
cromulent
· 1 year ago
Doesn't matter. Superdelegates will be falling into line behind Obama very soon after the final primaries; he should have this wrapped up within a couple of days at most. Wyden's announcement is tantamount to a proclamation of his own irrelevance.
Nick_the_Dog
· 1 year ago
I live in Oregon. Wyden is my Senator! He's been OK most of the time. I have written him on more than one occasion. Most recently a week ago and asked him to declare for Obama.
I want to add that he has turned into a career politician with "all the baggage" that suggests. He appears to be amongst those intimidated by the Clinton machine. I had hoped that I was wrong, but with todays press release it appears that he may need to be reminded just who he is working for. Oregon went for Obama!
Ben Dover
· 1 year ago
Wonder if it'll be Obama/Webb? That could be a really great ticket.
Maybe Edwards for Atty. Gen. until a spot is available on the USSC?
Maybe, just maybe consider Hillary for Sec. of State?
Maybe Clark for Sec. of Def.?
Interesting to think about all the possible combinations that an Obama administration will be able to consider.
lynchie
· 1 year ago
don't forget Hillary's voting record on Iraq and Iran. I don't want a war monger in that position. we certainly need someone with experience and knowledge and she does not come with that. I say Joe Biden for Secretary of State, Clark of Defense,
I'm flabbergasted. And just when I think these political cowards cannot surprise me again.
It strikes me that this is one of the things that draws me to Obama -- yes, he's a politician and no, he's not perfect. But he's not a coward like so many in our party, and in Washington at large. He decided to take a real shot at the CLINTONS, for godsake.
I mean, just imagine: There is, generously, a 2% political risk at this point to declare for Obama. And frankly, less so for people from states that went overwhelmingly for Obama. But that's still too much risk to take. It's mind-boggling. And then you have people from Raising Kaine praising the rumor that maybe -- just maybe -- Webb is going to declare this week.
Hallelujah, let's make that man the VP!
Look at Biden. He's no better. There are stories running around now about how he's going to be helping with the campaign and might even be high on the SoS list... and still. Will not declare, probably not even tomorrow.
I can't hate everybody, but these undeclared SDs make it very hard not to want to just declare a pox upon all their houses. Off with their heads!
kevinbgoode
· 1 year ago
Perhaps it is time for someone to ask the superdelegates why they are trying to inhibit fundraising for Congressional candidates?
decotodd
· 1 year ago
There is a DEVASTATING article in this month's Rolling Stone (I think by Tim Kiein) about the spineless Dems in the Senate, primarily Reid. He and Durbin come off very badly as too genteel and accomodating in a nest full of GOP vipers. No wonder nothing gets done. We need to replace Reid in January as majority leader. How does that work -- does the Senate vote on their leader?
Badass4Peace
· 1 year ago
It suddenly occurred to me, and forgive me if this notion has already been presented, that perhaps the superdelegates who have yet to commit to a candidate are holding off in order to give themselves time to hedge their bets, to be doted upon, to make their stock go up, to become more and more valuable to the two candidates vying for their inkmark. It goes without saying that any one with a brain would have aligned with Obama by now, but conceivably those with political minds are having a hard time realizing that the greater favor for themselves is NO LONGER with the Clintons.
I think what we're witnessing is a competition to be Superdelegate 0. The most watched straw in the history of camel back-breaking. That final person (could be a flurry across the finish line, indeed) will receive quite a bit of attention. Following that moment, more and more delegates will realize they have nothing to gain by waiting and will begin to swim with the one ship that is going to make it to shore. Let's just hope it happens before the end of the week.
FNReedie
· 1 year ago
They will all come crawling out crying with McCain wins.
evie
· 1 year ago
Badass4Peace -- my outlandish fantasy is that Clinton herself declares as #2118. Too bad it'll never happen.
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
LOLOL! You know, that idea actually made me smile.
Wouldn't it be nice to think of this election in "grown up"terms once again? It would be grand IF Clinton decided to be gracious in all of this (finally).
Cjeffery
· 1 year ago
I had this thought today and It would be awesome if she did and a really good step to bringing the party together. If she had done it sooner we would be talking about a Obama/Clinton ticket now.
c1
· 1 year ago
Ah Ha! Thanks for this update. He is my Senator, and I will call his office in the morning.
For anyone else wanting to contact him at his "campaign"related contact#, it's 503-230-7115.
QUALAR
· 1 year ago
A blind squirrel wouldn't go hungry in this blog. Sometimes an obsession can turn into a sickness. Senator Wyden is one of our Party's finest legislators. His record is much better than the newer senators who are supporting Obama and have voted with the Republicans on many GOP backed issues. He has the courage to stand up to the GOP as well as impatient Democratic Party members. Which is worse? The GOP being hijacked by intolerant religious groups or the Democratic Party being hijacked by a bunch of intolerant progressives, who stress unity as long as they get their way. That's George W. Bush.s idea of democracy..
Cjeffery
· 1 year ago
For some reason I have steam "Na na hey hey goodbye" stuck in my head today. Hopefully in 24 hours this is all over. Fingers crossed.
blackwolf
· 1 year ago
The party is taking time to rid itself of the fence sitters. I'm sure they'll be remembered in 2008.
Asterix
· 1 year ago
Wyden is a gutless weasel--he waited until after the primary to endorse Merkley to run against Smith. Smith, in the meantime has cast himself as a compassionate and warm moderate. I hope it's a very nasty campaign, with Merkey dragging out Smith's war vote at every opportunity.
sistersbeav
· 1 year ago
Unfortunately, the good Senator is not a man with a backbone, he is, in other words, an invertabrate. There have been instances in the past when I implored him to please go in the backroom and find his backbone and strap in on his back. Most of my displeasure derives from his very weaklingesque perfomances on the stage of the Senate Judiciary committee.
mirth
· 1 year ago
"Obama is pushing for supers to endorse during the day Tuesday so he’ll have enough delegates to declare victory that evening."
All Comments
We learned this in 2007 when the Democrats literally bent over for King George and gave him everything he wanted everytime he asked for it.
From everything I've read, the Clinton people have been threatening Super Ds to the point that they're scared to cross the Clintons.
Obama's people have to play hardball too.
Most superdelegates were scared of the wrath of Clinton if they backed Obama, so they held off and hedged their bets, hardly surprising since most of them are politicians, and hedging is job #1.
All these CLOWNS who enable and play same old politics that only helps them and not We The People need to be booted out of the Democratic party and replaced with better and real Democrats.
If you have your panties in such a serious wad that an extra couple weeks will be the difference between McCain or not, well then you're much worse off than you thought.
When Obama gets to the delegate nomination number tomorrow or Wednesday how can these people not get behind the Dem nominee.
If I was an Independent I would ask how can I vote for a Democrat when they cannot even back their own nominee. This is outrageous and it makes all Democrats look weak , the Clinton's and the Republicans keep taking our lunch money.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/02/clinto...
I want to add that he has turned into a career politician with "all the baggage" that suggests. He appears to be amongst those intimidated by the Clinton machine. I had hoped that I was wrong, but with todays press release it appears that he may need to be reminded just who he is working for. Oregon went for Obama!
Maybe Edwards for Atty. Gen. until a spot is available on the USSC?
Maybe, just maybe consider Hillary for Sec. of State?
Maybe Clark for Sec. of Def.?
Interesting to think about all the possible combinations that an Obama administration will be able to consider.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8lvc-azCXY
;-)
It strikes me that this is one of the things that draws me to Obama -- yes, he's a politician and no, he's not perfect. But he's not a coward like so many in our party, and in Washington at large. He decided to take a real shot at the CLINTONS, for godsake.
I mean, just imagine: There is, generously, a 2% political risk at this point to declare for Obama. And frankly, less so for people from states that went overwhelmingly for Obama. But that's still too much risk to take. It's mind-boggling. And then you have people from Raising Kaine praising the rumor that maybe -- just maybe -- Webb is going to declare this week.
Hallelujah, let's make that man the VP!
Look at Biden. He's no better. There are stories running around now about how he's going to be helping with the campaign and might even be high on the SoS list... and still. Will not declare, probably not even tomorrow.
I can't hate everybody, but these undeclared SDs make it very hard not to want to just declare a pox upon all their houses. Off with their heads!
I think what we're witnessing is a competition to be Superdelegate 0. The most watched straw in the history of camel back-breaking. That final person (could be a flurry across the finish line, indeed) will receive quite a bit of attention. Following that moment, more and more delegates will realize they have nothing to gain by waiting and will begin to swim with the one ship that is going to make it to shore. Let's just hope it happens before the end of the week.
Wouldn't it be nice to think of this election in "grown up"terms once again? It would be grand IF Clinton decided to be gracious in all of this (finally).
For anyone else wanting to contact him at his "campaign"related contact#, it's 503-230-7115.
http://thepage.time.com/2008/06/02/obama-tries-...