AMERICAblog: Superdelegates as enablers (but they get to go on t.v.)
Milli
· 1 year ago
If Hillary manages to steal this election she will be utterly hated by the end of her term. She's just another neocon. She and her husband will destroy the Democratic Party just as the Republican Party was taken over by extremists a generation ago. There will be no difference between the parties anymore. Victory for the psychopaths who found their winning strategy.
We should have seen this coming..............
ericgoldman
· 1 year ago
The super-delegates were added to the Democratic nominating process for a single purpose, to stop the party from nominating a popular candidate that party leaders viewed as unelectable. To say that the super-delegates are somehow failing in their duty to the party because they refuse to commit to acting in contravention of their sole party -mandated function is counterintuitive, at best.
OK, it's pure sophistry.
Let the process play out, respect ALL the rules to which the candidates committed, and see where we end up.
jr
· 1 year ago
Everyone with a blog needs to put jedreport.com on their blogroll. These superdelegates are all afraid to be associated with the "radical black man" the Clinton camp counselors like Lanny Davis and the McCain proxiy media have portrayed Obama as. They don't care that they're helping McCain and that Hillary is mathematically eliminated it's all about what their white cable news neighbors think
homebuilder
· 1 year ago
I'm so sick of the clearly bigoted attacks against Obama for his alleged relationship with Rev. Wright. Obama is a superb judge of character and he had every right to choose Rev. Wright as his pastor of 20 years. We need to be very careful before we start judging the Black church and its leaders. Being glbt, many of us cannot relate to people of faith. Who are we to judge Rev. Wright's patriotism or motives?
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
ericgoldman 1 minute ago ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sorry, but although you may be right about the reason Dem's invented the Super Delegate system (one which I will object to once this thing is over), the fact IS that they are NOT serving the party at this time.
This thing has dragged on far too long and it is in the interest of the party (NOT that you care here) to now decide on whom to vote. That COULD mean that Hillary gets the majority of the vote, but that said, IT IS TIME FOR THE SUPER DELEGATES TO DECIDE, which is it!
homebuilder
· 1 year ago
Polly_Tics: "That COULD mean that Hillary gets the majority of the vote"
Does that really matter? Neither I nor you nor any other sane Democrat would vote for the witch. We need to give the DNC a wake-up call and hand the Presidency to McCain. Obama can run again (without the opposition of evil Hillary) in 2012. He is still very young.
slappymagoo
· 1 year ago
homebuilder, speak for yourself. I'm in the Obama camp, and I'd be incredibly leery if there were a superdelegate coup for Hillary. But a third Bush term via McCain? No thanks. If she gets the nomination, she gets my vote, even though Obama is IMO the clearly better candidate.
I don't really understand your post. I didn't make that comment that you have in quotes for one thing, and the balance of your comment doesn't compute. I'm sorry, I might be missing something here, but I don't get it. Please, what are you trying to say?
SINGING_TROLL
· 1 year ago
The Super-Delegates are the newest ators on stage performing "The Art of Self'...The fuckers.
These are OUR OWN PEOPLE DOING THIS TO THE PARTY. They MUST BE PURGED> Every last stinking slimy one of them.
splendid Isolation i don't need no one splendid Isolation
michael jackson in disneyland don't have to share it with nobody else lock the gates, goofy, take my hand and lead me through the world of self
splendid Isolation i don't need no one splendid Isolation
don't want to wake up with no one beside me don't want to take up with nobody new don't want nobody coming by without calling first don't want nothing to do with you
i'm putting tinfoil up on the windows lying down in the dark to dream i don't want to see their faces i don't want to hear them scream
Ahh, yes I did, but you had it out of context a bit.
OK homebuilder, what was your question then?
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
Singing Troll!
Oh thank the lord you are here! We need you my dear, need you badly.
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
I am voting for Obama even IF Hillary manages to screw this thing up and get on the ticket. I will write in his name if need be, although I hope that doesn't come to pass. I just could never vote for either Hill or Bill again. They have proven themselves to be as low as any Karl Rove Republican.
Sorry, that is how I view them.
SINGING_TROLL
· 1 year ago
It is no longer rational to support Hillary now, even if she somehow pulls off something resembling the 2000 elections, with the SD's as her Supremes...
In fact, there had better not be an appointment to ANYTHING, ANYWHERE. Least of all SCOTUS
She should be LOCKED UP with the rest of the REAL CRIMINALS.
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
Singing Troll, : )
SINGING_TROLL
· 1 year ago
Hey Polly. :)
lynchie
· 1 year ago
PollyTics; I am with you in voting for Obama. I will write in his name. This whole campaign has change my wife and I in some basic fundamental ways that i have trouble expressing. It is as if the Clinton Camp have done something personal to us. We feel a profound sense of loss. Probably not making sense but we were talking about this whole campaign last night and it seems in the past 3 weeks we have seen that America may not be at a point where change is allowed to happen. The status quo is going to carry the day and that is too bad. I am in my late 50's and I am not sure we will see another politician with the charisma and raw guts that Senator Obama has. The process we have seen in this election will stop anyone else from wanting to make the journey. Sad really.
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
lynchie 2 minutes ago ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yes I understand what you mean about changing you both in some deep manner. It created a new vision of whom we previously admired and voted for (Bill Clinton) and perhaps even viewed his wife Hillary. I was a big Bill fan up until this campaign and was stunned by what I saw and what I didn't want to believe about either of them.
Although I was originally an Edwards supporter, I came to Obama once he pulled out of the contest. My better half was for Obama the entire time, so he was pleased with my turn around and we both viewed him FAR better than Hillary. she has morphed into something of which I didn't believe her to be, a witch? Perhaps, but worse actually, she's a lying, decietful politician who doesn't care about the Party, the Democratic people she serves OR the nation; she cares ONLY about herself.
Yes, it is a terrible shame and terribly sad.
lynchie
· 1 year ago
I too was for Edwards. I think I understand him not wanting to endorse either Clinton or Obama. I think he wants us to find our own way and make a decision based on what either candidate offers. We suffered through Bill and the impeachment which could have simply been neutralized by him saying, "I was wrong, the job of President removes you from reality and straying from my marriage was a mistake of a weak man". Hillary I have never had much use for. I did not like her representing New York. If she is such a big Pennsylvanian why didn't she run in Pa. No she is an opportunist who will do and say anything to solicit a vote, shoot guns, spiral down into Bosnia, denounce her church, pimp her daughter and use her husband. This is the first election where the candidate had to run against two other people (bill and Hill) who were running as one against him. if it comes out wrong might be the last time i vote.
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
lynchie, --------------------------------------------------------------- We disagree when it comes to Edwards endorsement. I happen to think he owes it to his supporters to endorse, be it for Hillary (and I would never forgive that choice) or Obama, but he needs to endorse BEFORE the North Carolina primary.
I will lose one heck of a lot of respect for both he and his wife is they choose not to endorse for their own advancement reasons.
bfraser55
· 1 year ago
I agree, and have been waiting for John to endorse and I hope to hell it isn't HRC
All Comments
We should have seen this coming..............
OK, it's pure sophistry.
Let the process play out, respect ALL the rules to which the candidates committed, and see where we end up.
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Sorry, but although you may be right about the reason Dem's invented the Super Delegate system (one which I will object to once this thing is over), the fact IS that they are NOT serving the party at this time.
This thing has dragged on far too long and it is in the interest of the party (NOT that you care here) to now decide on whom to vote. That COULD mean that Hillary gets the majority of the vote, but that said, IT IS TIME FOR THE SUPER DELEGATES TO DECIDE, which is it!
Does that really matter? Neither I nor you nor any other sane Democrat would vote for the witch. We need to give the DNC a wake-up call and hand the Presidency to McCain. Obama can run again (without the opposition of evil Hillary) in 2012. He is still very young.
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I don't really understand your post. I didn't make that comment that you have in quotes for one thing, and the balance of your comment doesn't compute. I'm sorry, I might be missing something here, but I don't get it. Please, what are you trying to say?
These are OUR OWN PEOPLE DOING THIS TO THE PARTY.
They MUST BE PURGED>
Every last stinking slimy one of them.
splendid Isolation
i don't need no one
splendid Isolation
michael jackson in disneyland
don't have to share it with nobody else
lock the gates, goofy, take my hand
and lead me through the world of self
splendid Isolation
i don't need no one
splendid Isolation
don't want to wake up with no one beside me
don't want to take up with nobody new
don't want nobody coming by without calling first
don't want nothing to do with you
i'm putting tinfoil up on the windows
lying down in the dark to dream
i don't want to see their faces
i don't want to hear them scream
splendid isolation
i don't need no one
splendid isolation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYRI2Re5dmo
OK homebuilder, what was your question then?
Oh thank the lord you are here! We need you my dear, need you badly.
Sorry, that is how I view them.
In fact, there had better not be an appointment to ANYTHING, ANYWHERE. Least of all SCOTUS
She should be LOCKED UP with the rest of the REAL CRIMINALS.
: )
:)
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Yes I understand what you mean about changing you both in some deep manner. It created a new vision of whom we previously admired and voted for (Bill Clinton) and perhaps even viewed his wife Hillary. I was a big Bill fan up until this campaign and was stunned by what I saw and what I didn't want to believe about either of them.
Although I was originally an Edwards supporter, I came to Obama once he pulled out of the contest. My better half was for Obama the entire time, so he was pleased with my turn around and we both viewed him FAR better than Hillary. she has morphed into something of which I didn't believe her to be, a witch? Perhaps, but worse actually, she's a lying, decietful politician who doesn't care about the Party, the Democratic people she serves OR the nation; she cares ONLY about herself.
Yes, it is a terrible shame and terribly sad.
Hillary I have never had much use for. I did not like her representing New York. If she is such a big Pennsylvanian why didn't she run in Pa. No she is an opportunist who will do and say anything to solicit a vote, shoot guns, spiral down into Bosnia, denounce her church, pimp her daughter and use her husband. This is the first election where the candidate had to run against two other people (bill and Hill) who were running as one against him. if it comes out wrong might be the last time i vote.
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We disagree when it comes to Edwards endorsement. I happen to think he owes it to his supporters to endorse, be it for Hillary (and I would never forgive that choice) or Obama, but he needs to endorse BEFORE the North Carolina primary.
I will lose one heck of a lot of respect for both he and his wife is they choose not to endorse for their own advancement reasons.