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AMERICAblog: Tancredo storms off set after Markos takes him down

  • Griffon · 1 month ago
    As a Republican student activist Tancredo spoke in support of the Vietnam War. After graduating from the University of Northern Colorado he became eligible to serve in Vietnam in June 1969. Tancredo has said he went for his physical, telling doctors he had been treated for depression, and eventually got a "1-Y" deferment. In 1976, while teaching history at Drake Junior High School in Denver, he ran for and won a seat in the Colorado House of Representatives.
    ...

    Fellow Republican State Treasurer Mike Coffman refused to share the stage with Congressman Tancredo at a pro-war rally for the Iraq war in 2003 because of Tancredo's failure to serve in Vietnam. Mike Coffman is a former Marine who was deployed to the first Persian Gulf conflict more than a decade ago. After leaving a Colorado capitol stage in what he described as a personal protest Coffman said "I just didn't feel (Tancredo) had the moral authority to send other young people off to war when he was not willing to go himself." In 1970 after Tancredo's student deferments ran out, he appealed his 1-A draft status, which would have put him at the top of the list for draft eligibility during the Vietnam War. Tancredo was then given a 1-Y status, which put him at the bottom of the list after he reported that he had been treated for mental illness as a teenager. Tancredo said he was diagnosed with depression when he was 16 or 17 and received medication for five years for panic attacks and bouts of anxiety and depression. Because of Tancredo's draft record, Coffman said he specifically asked organizers of the rally whether Tancredo would be speaking.


    Well done, Markos.

    In a single sentence, Markos has done what the MSM should have been doing continually; and what the spineless majority is helpless to accomplish: confronting a coward.

    Tancredo is an indictment of the deterioration of our hold on the system; infestation with pretentious phonies.
  • Butch1 · 1 month ago
    Amazing how it took a blogger to confront this charlatan whilst the MSM have never had the cojones to attempt it. Yet, many in the MSM hold contempt for bloggers considering the bloggers not qualitied and beneath them.
  • the crustybastard · 1 month ago
    And print media remains puzzled by its rapid descent into irrelevance.
  • Butch1 · 1 month ago
    The MSM, including the 5th Estate, have been house dogs for so long they have had to learn a number of commands and tricks from their masters so they wouldn't be put outside. The are used to the comforts of being indoors and they will not bite the hand that feeds them, no matter what the food is.

    The bloggers have no master to obey and it is a breath of fresh air to watch them ignore the commands of the house masters even at the chiding of the "house-dogs."
    It's great to be free, and "the truth will set you free."
  • brian · 1 month ago
    I liked the part where Tancredo wanted him to apologize. For what? Markos said what is true and Tancredo has no nowhere to go but hide.
  • PJB863 · 1 month ago
    I see a pattern here. Right-wingers do not like to be in a situation where someone can argue their talking points. If you look at a lot of their blogs, comments are not allowed.

    Same principle here: "You don't agree with me, so that's the end of the discussion, I'm leaving."

    So pathetic.
  • John Aravosis · 1 month ago
    Exactly, give them a dose of their own medicine and they flip out.
  • HereinDC · 1 month ago
    Yes John.
    I signed up yesterday at FOX News web site so I cold comment that they NEVER mention in the article that Carrie Prejean had a sex tape. The article on FOX stated that the law suite ended. NO MENTION of the sex tape.
    I signed up at FOX and left a comment. I was accepted on FOX NEWS to make comments.
    I made a comments during he day. NOT ONE of my comments ever showed up on the article about Prejean.

    So you are correct. Right Wing Sites don't ALLOW opposing comments.
  • tduffy2 · 1 month ago
    I also see that when one disagrees with a right-winger, it's a threat to our freedom (and wow, do I hate that over-used, over-abused phrase). It is precisely because of our freedom that I CAN disagree with you!
  • pender · 1 month ago
    It really looked like Tancredo was on the verge of tears there. "You take that back or I'm gonna go home!"

    Such a fragile flower... dude needs to man up! :)
  • John Aravosis · 1 month ago
    LOL
  • Josh · 1 month ago
    That was so sweet! I just wish Markos had added one more parting shot and asked "Why is Mr. Tancredo cutting and running?"
  • KyLG · 1 month ago
    A brilliant shot right where it hurt Tancredo the most. Was it precisely on point? No, but the good congressman opened the door when he mouthed that nonsense about his talks with veterans.
  • mamazboy · 1 month ago
    I wonder if Tancredo was this much of a chicken/crybaby when he served in our armed forces. Oh wait, that's right, he didn't serve in our armed forces.
  • Butch1 · 1 month ago
    He had no more to say after Markos, a veteran, called him out on his right winged rhetoric. Tancredo, has never served his country in an Armed Forces capacity, yet thinks of himself as an expert on what veterans want and need. When he finally came up to a real veteran, he runs away. I didn't think that was very "feisty" of him.
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 month ago
    That's Entertainment!
  • Kelly Canfield · 1 month ago
    Sweet!

    This has been another edition of "Bullies Flee When Confronted!"

    More episodes please...
  • shell · 1 month ago
    We will see if Markos is ever invited back. I have seen this time and again. A few years ago, Cliff Schecter was GREAT on taking on the wingnut liars. What happened? The shows didn't like that. And they didn't have him back. (Check out his shows on Google.)

    For YEARS, the right-wing cowards got away with the "Don't interrupt me!" line. Yet, they could interrupt any time they liked. That finally has almost stopped. (Well, it has on the shows I watch.)

    Every time (EVERY time) a right-winger was called out, they ran crying to daddy. (Ann Coulter comes to mind.) Sad that Americans never cared about this until their jobs have gone poof. I feel really bad about that, but there WAS a silver lining -- it made Americans wake up.
  • Steve_in_CNJ · 1 month ago
    okay the deferment dig was off-topic but tancredo deserved it for flat-out lying about the VA. the VA is overwhelmingly popular despite the neglect it suffered under george bush (the younger one, the one who was AWOL during the vietnam war).
  • Wayne · 1 month ago
    Markos,
    You get a cookie tonight.... You've been good . Enjoyed your take down of that creep.
  • BerkeleyMom · 1 month ago
    The tactic of constantly quoting the military and speaking for those in the military insinuates that Tancredo is connected to the military by service or some inside track. Markos calling him out on his deferment at that point is legit. Tancredo has no standing to speak on behalf of veterans. Period.
  • micbro · 1 month ago
    The clip I've seen (now twice) began with a question about Medicare, then was directed to the VA by the host. Tancredo didn't take the discussion there. You can't make guano smell like a rose. Most reasonable people will see this. And further, when speaking of military benefits, you should know that most services are contracted to private facilities, (champus was the acronym when I was in) where people can be seen in a reasonable amount of time.
  • BerkeleyMom · 1 month ago
    Tancredo may not have taken the discussion to the VA but as soon as it went there he started trashing the VA and backing it up with his vet sources. I believe he even said "EVERY vet I talk to says..." He was trying to come across as an authority on what vets think and Markos was having none of it.
  • woodroad34 · 1 month ago
    How many Democrats have walked off of O'Really's show or Hannity's or Beck's? Princess Trancredo was losing the argument and found a convenient way to leave -- huffy much? Can dish it, but can't take it.
  • leliorisen · 1 month ago
    It really is ironic that the chickenhawk Republicans are allowed to be portrayed as the party that cares about vets and the military, when it is populated by so many draft-dodgers like Cheney, Limbaugh and Tancredo. And let us not forget the fact that we still never got an accounting on how much of Bush's National Guard duty was spent awol. The one "hero" in the GOP got away with a lot of crap during his confinement in North Vietnam. So much so that he went out of his way to screw others who were MIA so that unflattering things about McCain's past never saw the light of day.

    Meanwhile, the GOP had the balls to savage John Kerry.

    Good for Marcos. He did not have to preface his statements with, "veterans tell me." He is a vet.

    Tancredo is just an airbag.
  • PJB863 · 1 month ago
    Gasbag is more like it. Most right wingers are gasbags.
  • bob915 · 1 month ago
    again an addendum...sh*tbags
  • tsuki · 1 month ago
    And if Tancredo had remained, he would have declared that the socialized medicine that House & Senate members get for $531 a year, does not work. That he has many, many complaints about it. Everyone he knows complains about it.

    He would have informed the audience that he, Tancredo, was going to introduce a bill to abolish the government-run health care plan for legislators in favor of individual health care plans. That they were planning to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.

    Right, Tom? Tom...Tom...right, huh, right?
  • RitornaVincitor · 1 month ago
    Poor Congressman Tom. Didn't Markos know that this GOP war hawk got his deferment from the Viet Nam War due to depression? Now he's even more depressed! Quelle pity!
  • RobertSeattle · 1 month ago
    Boom!. Something tells me Markos isn't getting a Xmas card from Tancredo this year!
  • yeah right · 1 month ago
    This little Fembot is such a joke... Not a problem to out debate this douchebag. Tancredo just got frustrated by the silliness of the moment. Imagine this little fembot trying to claim that he is a veteran... As if he served with distinction. Let's take a look at his military file and see how many blemishes it has in it. Can't you see this little guy running and bitching to his commander at every little thing that he took offense too. Of course you can. That's what these types do. What a joke of a human...
  • cowboyneok · 1 month ago
    "Fembot" ???!!! You are gone. Outta here. Markos obviously has bigger balls than Tancredo who ran when it came time for him to serve. If Tancredo was really a man of conviction, he would have stayed but Markos called him on his hypocrisy and Tancredo is obviously ashamed of the truth.
  • UncleBucky · 1 month ago
    Fembot? Who stormed off the set, almost crying to his mama? As written below, Tancredo needed to man up and take his thrashing. Hah.
  • Yeah Righ liked my BALLS · 1 month ago
    Let's see if you're homophobic knuckledragging, pea-brained ass served? I'm willing to bet the answer is no. Tancredo couldn't handle it because he's a worthless pimple-on-his-ass coward and wouldn't dream of actually serving in the military when - like you - it's much safer to just continue to have sex with strange men in a public men's room Larry Craig style. If it makes you feel better, why not meet up with Tancredo and make him "feel better"... You know you want to.
  • CaptainFrogbert · 1 month ago
    Sounds like you're another one of those republican cowards who has no idea what it means to serve in the military. Surprise! It's not all big, big guns thrusting hard, hard bullets at the retreating buttocks of less manly, manly men, though I'm sure you think it is in your fevered little pea brain. I'm also sure that Markos served with honor and competence, something your typical republican military fantasist who only ever dreamed of serving and took advantage of other people's sacrifices to inflate their own ego would never understand. Go crawl back under your rock.
  • shell · 1 month ago
    You're a typical right-wing imbecile. You have obviously NOT ever been in the military. Just like your hero, Tancredo, you yap when you don't know what you're talking about. Yes, I'm SURE Markos went "running and bitching" to his commander. Just like 2nd grade, eh? That's how you IMAGINE the service to be. You have no clue, so just repeat what you know -- early grade school. Time for beddy-bye, little girl. Have mommy tuck you in.
  • Jaim · 1 month ago
    A GOP loser who shat his pants and wouldn't serve his country is more honorable than an actual living, breathing veteran?

    Typical GOP logic.
  • UncleBucky · 1 month ago
    And some of the hairiest, macho-lookingest, and tallest guys can be as swish as Betty Crocker.

    You have no idea, pal, no idea, of what you are talking about.
  • proudliberal1947 · 1 month ago
    Three strikes and your out

    Ms Shoshannna Johson shot down that Hate Monger Lawyer for trying to pass himself off bas a combat vet. then tried to shoot her down for not knowing what combat is, then she attacked beautifully announcing she was a COMBAT VET. and a EX POW DUH!

    Then there is the clown Trancredo oh yes he speaks for us VETS (ha ha) markos shoots him down with his own draft doding deferment of he was depressed so he couldn't serve. Then the FOOL trencredo wants a apology ha ha, go wave a flag COWARD or try for a photo op isn't that what you COWARDS on the RIGHT good at.

    Now we come to the human piece of Hate Mongering SH*T clled jerome corsi, talking his Ignorant, Nazi, Fascist SH*T and LIES about a MAJOR being a adviser to the then Senator Mr. Obama.

    Yeah its been a beautiful 24 hours watching hese Nazis being shot down and their own words being used against them, just beautiful.
  • bob915 · 1 month ago
    ...not to shift off topic, but does anyone have a list of all the lawmakers who were dumb enough to show up for that faked rally at the Capitol with Batsh*t Bachmann yesterday? I want to see if my sorry rep was there...................
  • JunkJunk · 1 month ago
    And he wanted to be President! Can you say Thomas Eagleton?
  • jimfromthefoothills · 1 month ago
    Sen Eagleton was a great Senator and a great guy. Mentioning Tancredo in the same paragraph is a faux pas.
  • JunkJunk · 1 month ago
    That may very well be the case. But Sen. Eagleton also received mental health care, which (rightly or wronlgy - I'm not making the argument) derailed his chances of becoming a VP nominee.
  • benb · 1 month ago
    Pretty clear why Limbaugh, Cheney, Bush, and Beck stay out of public forums. If you can't defend your past in public then you better own up to it or someone will do it for you.
  • Griffon · 1 month ago
    For your entertainment.

    Limbaugh stepped in to substitute for Pat Sajak's late night talk show in the late 1980's. It went off the rails almost immediately, Limbaugh got a veritable earful and the studio audience had to be cleared.

    I don't believe rush was asked again.
  • bob915 · 1 month ago
    Hails yeah emmeffers...............
  • rmichels · 1 month ago
    Tancredo didn't storm off because he got confronted on healthcare. He quit the interview when Marcos made a cheap shot about Tancredo's own lack of military service. Tancredo's policy positions are wrong, some of his views are reprehensible. But for my money, the public would be much better served by a smart and articulate take-down of Tancredo's misinformation and fear-mongering on issues at hand and not childish taunts about someone's lack of military service 30 years ago. Markos did not serve us well in that tv exchange.
  • bob915 · 1 month ago
    I gotta kindly disagree with you there......Tancredo was dealt a full house out of his own PigeonHawk deck on this one. He's never afraid to throw out the same tired old used up terms like Socialist, Unamerican, and Nazi to cheap shot those he thinks he can knuckle under with his bellicosity. Markos, a vet who saw the opening, did his work, Tancredo had to tap out, and now he's off somewhere Googling everyone he's potentially up against to make sure they aren't vets as well......loved it
  • Bob · 1 month ago
    Tancredo claimed that Veterans hate the VA. Markos pointed out that he's a Veteran, and when Tancredo tried to shout him down, Markos went there. That's fair game.

    Lesson learned: don't claim to speak for somebody who you don't represent.
  • HereinDC · 1 month ago
    I'm so glad you posted this John . ( and so soon!!!)
    I saw it live.
    It was incredible.

    I guess Tancredo is like Cheney and Limbaugh and having "health" issues to get out of military duty during Vietnam
  • Heather · 1 month ago
    I was watching live and had to DVR it to show my husband tonight. PRICELESS!!!! WAY TO GO MARKOS!!
  • scooter in brooklyn · 1 month ago
    this was a thing of beauty.

    i've been waiting a long time for someone to make tommy tancredo cry. i have a serious crush on markos :)
  • HereinDC · 1 month ago
    See, Republicans expect Democrat to play nice.
    And Markos wasn't going to let Tancredo get away with the lies.

    Sort of like how John A has spoken the truth about the DNC and the lie they perpetuated this week....and John called him out on it.

    Now if we can only get more Dems to fight like Markos, Aravosis and Garyson of Florida
  • John Aravosis · 1 month ago
    I actually got a phone call from Grayson last night. I wasn't going to write about it on the blog proper, even though he didn't say it was off the record, I don't like to always write about conversations or it makes it sound like you only talk to people in order to write about them. Anyway, he's very nice, and smart as hell. We talked for quite a while. He called me :) It was a bit of a surprise, to say the least.
  • Butch1 · 1 month ago
    I expect in the future to see great thinks happening and this fellow will be involved in them.
  • HereinDC · 1 month ago
    Cool! ;)
  • scooter in brooklyn · 1 month ago
    and it would be nice if they gave shuster this time slot. ed has been really shrill and unwatchable.
  • leliorisen · 1 month ago
    Not sure if I agree with you about Ed. I thought he was way too pompous and self-indulgent on radio. However, he has been as passionate and forceful as any of the MSNBC hosts on health care reform. It has caused me to re-evaluate my earlier opinion.

    Shuster is an okay fill-in, but he is too nice. I think we need more vociferous and passionate commentators. I have no problem with loud, as long as the rhetoric isn't empty. Ultimately, they are all entertainers anyway, and I would be willing to bet that Ed Schultz is being directed to be larger than life. They sure do not want him to be reserved and deferential. It's a ratings game.

    Fortunately, Ed has the moral ground to back up his arguments. Somebody needs to stir some fire in the belly of Democrats.
  • devis1 · 1 month ago
    Awesome. I had it muted and almost turned it off when I noticed Cliff One Trick Pony on again.
  • micbro · 1 month ago
    Mr. Tancredo was deferred for the draft because of previous treatment for depression, but was it really necessary to bring this up during a debate over government health care? I guess this is a "victory" for left-wingers, but, it is a hollow one. Reasonable people will see that in any debate, if the opportunity presents itself, you may veer off point and attack on personal grounds. But you will lose the debate. If we call someone a draft dodger, we must be prepared to back it up with (in this case) medical proof. President Clinton and Vice President Biden both avoided the draft very cleverly. For example, I believe Biden was deferred due to a bullshit asthma excuse, and Clinton failed to report to ROTC, but unless I could back it up, I wouldn't make an asshole of myself on tv like this wannabe news personality Markos did.
  • proudliberal1947 · 1 month ago
    Your damn right it was necessary to bring it up. As a reitired 20+ year combast vet. i am tired of these COWARDS on the right attacking people that served in the interest of the privatization of everything. Thisa scum bag there Nazi radio Clown who had a pimple on his ass, the biggest COWARDS are the ones that cry the loudest until it comes to antying up to protect this Country.
    These cowards threw down the gaunglet, now let us Veterans pick it up and beat the living SH*T out of these COWARDS. There is more to this Country then Photo Ops, Flag Waving and Rhetoric of Patriotism with which if left in the hands of thee COWARDS (as proven with the Gutless, Spineless, COWARD and American TRAITOR cheney) they would SELL us OUT. So yeah this piece off SH*T got exactly what he deserved the TRUTH something theHate Mongering Nazi Right does NOT know.
  • Griffon · 1 month ago
    "Mr. Tancredo was deferred for the draft because of previous treatment for depression, but was it really necessary to bring this up during a debate over government health care?"

    When Tancredo was misrepresenting the consensus of veterans over the VA by invoking a generality, claiming every group he spoke to would rather have private insurance vouchers? Yes.

    Tancredo himself went on to call Obama a liar: "The President is either a liar or he's stupid, and by the way I don't think he's stupid."


    Sauce for the goose.
  • micbro · 1 month ago
    If you are in the military, you have healthcare. However, if you have ever been there, you will remember waiting 6 or 7 hrs for an aspirin. For active duty military, the healthcare is good because it will keep you alive on the battlefield (and I have no gripe with that). In contrast, the large cost of military healthcare is dependent care, which is sent to private doctors. The "vouchers" are government cards held by all dependents. The dependents need medical care always, when the soldier is deployed, when the soldier is not. Let's assume that all husbands/ wives of deployed servicemen only need a general physical exam, or appendectomy, childbirth, whatever. These people are not taken care of at military hospitals. They have a military card that allows them to have service at a private medical facility. There is a reason for this. The military can't support servicemen and their dependents. Anyone who believes that the government can support national healthcare has never served a day in the military.
  • Griffon · 1 month ago
    "However, if you have ever been there, you will remember waiting 6 or 7 hrs for an aspirin."

    Unsupported. Even allowing for the possibility of such an occurance, it is hardly grounds to disband a functioning program, particularly in light of the catastrophic attempt at privatization a.k.a. The Walter Reed debacle.

    "Anyone who believes that the government can support national healthcare has never served a day in the military."

    Your statement has been demonstrably and conclusively invalidated not only by other nations whose longevity, infant mortality and cost per person puts ours to shame, but other countries who sport national healthcare don't contend with medical cost bankruptcies and customers being arbitrarily dropped or refused for pre-existing conditions, thereby raising the overall costs nationally. A properly funded system, as opposed to a system that republicans are incessantly attempting to beggar and subsequently eliminate, operates superlatively to the present private US system which distributes bonuses for effectively condemning patients to their deaths in a craven effort to save pieces of silver.

    Walk away, micbro.
  • PeteWa · 1 month ago
    why even bother responding to him?
    I grew up in a military family.
    we never went anywhere but to the base hospital for anything, except for once when a sibling broke a leg and we were in the middle of nowhere, U.S.A.
    I had never had a physical by anyone but a military doctor until I was over 21.
  • micbro · 1 month ago
    This voucher system has been around for a little while. Google tri-care and champus to get started. More intriguing, who was in office when the programs were active? You may see that past and current military health care is unable to provide for servicemen and dependents. It makes no difference, Democrats/Republicans, no one can handle the needs of soldiers and dependents in times of peace or war. But, now, something has changed. Now we believe the government can provide for the nation. Let me tell you something, and you may not agree with me, but I will tell you anyway. The US government has become the most wasteful, corrupt, self serving, elitist group and we consider giving them more money. There is no difference between left and right because, my friend, we are all getting screwed. If we allow our "leaders" to divide us, we will drift in the wake, a voice of 300 million reduced to a collective bleat.
  • mirth · 1 month ago
    The "Like" is from me. It was unintended and undeserved.

    Based on your comments about the military healthcare system which serves both active duty and their dependents, it's obvious you have never served in any branch of the armed services.
  • PeteWa · 1 month ago
    The "Like" is from me.
    It was intended and well deserved.
  • mirth · 1 month ago
  • jimfromthefoothills · 1 month ago
    Hey Mirthy! You tackling la luz this weekend?
  • mirth · 1 month ago
    Hi Jim!

    No, it's my b'day weekend and that means parties and that means I'll be in no condition to hike. ;)
  • PeteWa · 1 month ago
    Happy Birthday!

    It's my sister's birthday today as well, go Scorpios!
  • mirth · 1 month ago
    Awww, thanks, PeteWa. Lucky you having a Scorpio sister. Say Happy Birthday to her for me.
  • PeteWa · 1 month ago
    yeah, she's the best.
    hope you have a great weekend!
  • jimfromthefoothills · 1 month ago
    Happy Birthday!  I remember my 29th!
  • mirth · 1 month ago
    Thanks, Jimmy, but I celebrated my 29th twelve years ago. :)

    I liked my 20s and I loved my 30s, so if this patten holds I'm expecting something close to awesome in my 40s.
  • Jared Hyder · 1 month ago
    Hey,I'm 29 this Sunday.....wow! My 30th will be on a mundane...I mean Monday...fitting
  • micbro · 1 month ago
    You are mistaken. I served proudly.
  • mirth · 1 month ago
    With no understanding of the military healthcare system and statements about having to wait 7 hours for an aspirin...I remain dubious. Seriously.
  • jimfromthefoothills · 1 month ago
    uh McD's drive up window does not really qualify as national service.
  • mirth · 1 month ago
    Actually, I minimized the scope of TRICARE. It provides efficient, quality, full service heathcare to active duty, the Guard and Reserves and retired, their eligible family members and survivors.
  • Griffon · 1 month ago
    In lieu of a point or counterpoint, you indulge in a cloud of generalities with absolutely no cited source or valid claim upon which to base a position.

    Clouds are occasionally a safe place to hide, but they embody no weight.

    You cannot counter the bald fact that other countries are, contrary to the Tancredo ilk, operating universal healthcare plans unless, of course, you're suggesting that they are clearly able to perform a straightforward program which the "greatest nation on earth" finds beyond their collective ingenuity to adopt and duplicate.

    Due mainly to the republican wing, with contributions from industry-beholden democrats.
  • micbro · 1 month ago
    Most corrupt nation, perhaps.
  • jimfromthefoothills · 1 month ago
    Why do you hate the government of the USA? Do you hate democracy in general or just American style democracy? What would you prefer? hmmm let me guess... a theocracy?
  • micbro · 1 month ago
    I don't hate the government. I believe we are divided by government. I think we have good ideas that are dismissed by partisan leaders. Now, a theocracy? I'm not sure about that. I have thoughts on both sides of that issue. I haven't decided yet.
  • jimfromthefoothills · 1 month ago
    Please enlighten us all.  What good ideas are dismissed by partisan (democratically elected) leaders?  Why do you think America is the "most corrupt" organization in the world?  Which religion would lead your theocracy?  The Taliban?
  • micbro · 1 month ago
    You have many questions. First, all good ideas from the opposing party are dismissed by the ruling party (not out of care for the citizens, but out of partisanship). Second, I didn't claim that America is corrupt, but I did claim that our government is the most corrupt, wasteful enterprise on the face of the earth, Third, I am not certain that a religion must lead the world.
  • jimfromthefoothills · 1 month ago
    1. Read the First Amendment to the Constitution.  2. Our democratically elected government IS the country num-nutts.  What do you think America is?  Geography? 3. What good ideas??? you don't seem to be able to talk about any.
  • micbro · 1 month ago
    1. I believe in the first amendment. Notice how freely I speak.
    2. Our democratically elected government has forgotten that their purpose is to serve the people, replacing service with self service.
    3 Any idea from "the other side" is crushed due to partisan loyalty.

    This is the way it works, lad.
  • micbro · 1 month ago
    "industry-beholden" love it. I'll think about that when I'm dreaming that I didn't think about that, but then I've thought of that. lol. Some people claim that they don't want any money when it is exactly what they want.
  • micbro · 1 month ago
    "Clouds are occasionally a safe place to hide, but they embody no weight."
    Very nice. I must say, although we obviously disagree on many issues, I do admire the way you write. Btw, I did exaggerate the "6 or 7 hrs for an aspirin" point, but I did serve in the Navy and I remember waiting hours and hours (5 hrs was not unusual) for routine physicals, vision checks, dental procedures, etc. It is due to the large number of patients vs. the number of available medical pros.
  • woodka · 1 month ago
    Tancredo was speaking FOR veterans TO a veteran. What right did he have to do that, implying that he had some speical standing with veterans to speak for them?
  • micbro · 1 month ago
    Agreed. But, I'm not sure Tancredo signed up for a discussion on the VA. I think this guy attacked him in a personal way, out of context of the talking point. This is my opinion, that doesn't mean that I don't respect yours.
  • jimfromthefoothills · 1 month ago
    I don't respect yours... VA is socialized medicine dummy. The military is a socialist organization... You are a trolling moron.
  • jimfromthefoothills · 1 month ago
    No, instead you demonstrate your assholery on Ablog.
  • jimfromthefoothills · 1 month ago
    Way to go Kos
  • stevetalbert · 1 month ago
    I think it is so important to call these people on stuff like this. All the GOP draft dogers who want other people to die for them to make up for their cowardise.,,, and all the closeted gay guys fighting against gay rights and marriage. BOTH categories are trying to make other people compensate for their own failures.
  • stevetalbert · 1 month ago
    Actually, one of the best nights of Chris Matthews was when he tried to find out from Pat Buchanan, or someone like that, when was the time in their life they felt they were making a choice between being gay and being straight. Those 15 minutes of hammering are worth the other 75 hours of divel...
  • cowboyneok · 1 month ago
    Tancredo got called and didn't like it. Better yet... He RAN!
  • Montiel · 1 month ago
    Why do you think they call 'em chickenshit rePigs - they can't handle the truth - too much for their pea brains.
  • cowboyneok · 1 month ago
    I'm sick to death of Republicans, who haven't served in a military uniform, trashing our VA Health Care, by the way. I have VA Health Care as a veteran and EVERY AMERICAN should be so lucky!
  • the crustybastard · 1 month ago
    My Republican father is being treated for various maladies by both the VA and by a private physician and he has nothing but positive things to say about the VA.

    I wonder if this incident will cause Tancredo to spiral?
  • SCLiberal · 1 month ago
    My boyfriend just got signed up with the VA and is very happy with everything he's experienced. I asked him why he had not signed up before and he said because until Obama changed the economic threshold, he was not eligible. Now he is.
    So the guy who voted for Bush has something to thank Obama for.
  • JohnNation · 1 month ago
    Universal care is a threat to freedom my ass...
    He want's to give out vouchers so people can choose a private sector insurer. Funny how that just pumps money up insurance companies asses.

    The same insurance companies that own so many politicians dem and repug, and pumps cash up THEIR asses too.
  • Rab · 1 month ago
    It was a thing of beauty, Markos kicked this punk in the balls and the repug couldn't handle it
  • ErickB69 · 1 month ago
    If you can't take the heat . . . I have a Republican brother and father. We all three served in the military and none of us would want to give up the VA benefits. Funny, they don't think of them as a threat to their freedom.